I'm going to read into this game more too but I like Detroit. Western Michigan's only win has been against Hope, which might be a D2 team? Detroit lost to a pretty good Cleveland State team by 5, and an average Youngstown State team by 3. After being being able to knock off Saint John's, who isn't good but far from a bottom dweller, I think they'll be able to pull off the win and gain some momentum. I guess we'll learn more tomorrow with the line movements.
You have to look at who Western Mich. lost too. They lost to some very good teams. Just saying.......GL ODDS
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Quote Originally Posted by SliceBoogie:
I'm going to read into this game more too but I like Detroit. Western Michigan's only win has been against Hope, which might be a D2 team? Detroit lost to a pretty good Cleveland State team by 5, and an average Youngstown State team by 3. After being being able to knock off Saint John's, who isn't good but far from a bottom dweller, I think they'll be able to pull off the win and gain some momentum. I guess we'll learn more tomorrow with the line movements.
You have to look at who Western Mich. lost too. They lost to some very good teams. Just saying.......GL ODDS
Connecticut -6 for 20 units... Harvard basketball has the recreational betting society not only talking, but racing to the betting window's to place wager's on the 8-0su & 4-0ats Harvard Crimson. Harvard has 7 wins vs D-1 basketball teams that currently have a combined record of 26-31su. Although they have a couple of impresive win's over Florida st and Central Florida i'm not so sure those win's will look as good as they do now come season's end. What most Harvard bettor's are probably unaware of is that Uconn has just been introduced to their start recruit (Ryan Boatright) on the playing court the past 2 games after sitting out the 1st 6 games due to eligbility issues. He didn't take long to fit right into to a successful roll in a Uconn basketball uniform as he is shooting 63% (12 for 19) while dishing 9 assists and grabbing 6 rebound's in just 2 games with an average of 18.5ppg. Talk about the offensive spark that this basketball team needed, well they just got it and maybe more. In Harvard's 2 toughest games so far this year they shot 43% against UCF in a 59-49 win and a god awful 27% against the offensively challenged but defesively strong Florida State Seminoles in a game they won by the putrid score of just 46-41. Those were neutral court games vs UCF & FSU and this is going to be a different enviornment for the Crimson to play in as this game will be played at Gampel Pavilion in front of thousands of Uconn crazies. Last year the Uconn Huskies handed the Crimson a 81-52 win at the XL Center in Harford, CT as Harvard shot just 30% in that game. The Crimson come into this game with basically an identical roster from last season's team as Harvard's starting 5 reads as follow's; Kyle Casey, Keith Wright, Brandyn Curry, Oliver McNally & Christian Webster. These player's played a combined 146 minute's in last year's game and were the major reason of the 29 point massacre as they could not generate good looks all night. This Ryan Boatright phenom is exactly what the doctor ordered for some much needed offense at the gaurd position. It's such a shame too because this is the 1st time Harvard has cracked the top 25 in 110 years. I would say good things come to those who wait but once the good get's there it doesn't last long. At least that looks like the case tonight...POD
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Connecticut -6 for 20 units... Harvard basketball has the recreational betting society not only talking, but racing to the betting window's to place wager's on the 8-0su & 4-0ats Harvard Crimson. Harvard has 7 wins vs D-1 basketball teams that currently have a combined record of 26-31su. Although they have a couple of impresive win's over Florida st and Central Florida i'm not so sure those win's will look as good as they do now come season's end. What most Harvard bettor's are probably unaware of is that Uconn has just been introduced to their start recruit (Ryan Boatright) on the playing court the past 2 games after sitting out the 1st 6 games due to eligbility issues. He didn't take long to fit right into to a successful roll in a Uconn basketball uniform as he is shooting 63% (12 for 19) while dishing 9 assists and grabbing 6 rebound's in just 2 games with an average of 18.5ppg. Talk about the offensive spark that this basketball team needed, well they just got it and maybe more. In Harvard's 2 toughest games so far this year they shot 43% against UCF in a 59-49 win and a god awful 27% against the offensively challenged but defesively strong Florida State Seminoles in a game they won by the putrid score of just 46-41. Those were neutral court games vs UCF & FSU and this is going to be a different enviornment for the Crimson to play in as this game will be played at Gampel Pavilion in front of thousands of Uconn crazies. Last year the Uconn Huskies handed the Crimson a 81-52 win at the XL Center in Harford, CT as Harvard shot just 30% in that game. The Crimson come into this game with basically an identical roster from last season's team as Harvard's starting 5 reads as follow's; Kyle Casey, Keith Wright, Brandyn Curry, Oliver McNally & Christian Webster. These player's played a combined 146 minute's in last year's game and were the major reason of the 29 point massacre as they could not generate good looks all night. This Ryan Boatright phenom is exactly what the doctor ordered for some much needed offense at the gaurd position. It's such a shame too because this is the 1st time Harvard has cracked the top 25 in 110 years. I would say good things come to those who wait but once the good get's there it doesn't last long. At least that looks like the case tonight...POD
Even Arkansas coach Mike Anderson certainly took notice to Ryan Boatright's presence. Here's a quote below from him...
“He gave them a big-time lift,” Anderson said. “He did a good job of breaking down our defense and getting into the lane. Whether he made the shot or passed it off, he did an excellent job. I saw the game against Florida State, and I thought he was the difference in that game, as well.
"He’s a good, crafty little guard.”
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Even Arkansas coach Mike Anderson certainly took notice to Ryan Boatright's presence. Here's a quote below from him...
“He gave them a big-time lift,” Anderson said. “He did a good job of breaking down our defense and getting into the lane. Whether he made the shot or passed it off, he did an excellent job. I saw the game against Florida State, and I thought he was the difference in that game, as well.
Why is it that we all know parlays and teasers are horrible bets yet still can't stop clicking the submit button? I've gone 9-3 this week with nothing to show for it and my account is in the negative... FML!!! Keep up the good work boss!
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Why is it that we all know parlays and teasers are horrible bets yet still can't stop clicking the submit button? I've gone 9-3 this week with nothing to show for it and my account is in the negative... FML!!! Keep up the good work boss!
The main reason IMO for a distorted W/L% vs $$ W/L, is poor MM. The #1 bugaboo to any gambler. Prime example on another site, guy goes 3-1, & loses $$. 5U on 3W, 20 U on the loss, mind boggling. But, it happens ALL the time.
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The main reason IMO for a distorted W/L% vs $$ W/L, is poor MM. The #1 bugaboo to any gambler. Prime example on another site, guy goes 3-1, & loses $$. 5U on 3W, 20 U on the loss, mind boggling. But, it happens ALL the time.
Western Michigan +5 ( Both teams are a combined 2-10-1 ats meaning the books have been messing up number's regarding both of these teams early on. Western Michigan also has 6 losses vs teams that are currently 36-12su so that tells me they have played a solid schedule thuse far. Detroit seems to be getting better and much more reading needs to be done to have and end result on this game but Western Michigan has a decent offence and can score..
Got's lots of reading to do as always.....
My take on this game is a little different. I think I'm going to take Detroit -5 for a couple units. I see your points about WM not being as bad as people think. I also bet against Detroit against Youngstown St. However, the things that jump out at me about this game point to Detroit.
1. I think this Detroit team had a tough time filling the whole left by Nick Minnerath's season ending injury against Akron. That combined with the other player injuries and in-eligibilities had to make things tough for awhile. However, they looked better against Cleveland St and actually good against St Johns at times. I think the adjustments they're making are improving their team as they push forward.
2. While both teams are coming off a win, I think Detroit gets more of a boost here coming off a big win on national tv and playing their 4th straight home game. While the Western Mich kids have had one of the worst travel schedules of any team so far this year. And without a win over a D1 team, I've got to think these kids have more on their minds than basketball with finals next week and the holidays coming up.
3. In what should be a close game, I always put a lot of weight on FT% and Detroit shoots at 77% (11th best in the nation) while Western Michigan shoots an abysmal 61%.
Not trying to change your mind, if you decide to take Western Michigan, best of luck. And for the record, there are some angles I could see working in WM's favor: the let down for Detroit after a huge game, the look ahead factor to their next 2 big games, the rivalry factor of this game, the fact the WM kids are from Detroit etc.
I just think Detroit is a better play today. Should be an exciting matchup though.
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Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:
Western Michigan +5 ( Both teams are a combined 2-10-1 ats meaning the books have been messing up number's regarding both of these teams early on. Western Michigan also has 6 losses vs teams that are currently 36-12su so that tells me they have played a solid schedule thuse far. Detroit seems to be getting better and much more reading needs to be done to have and end result on this game but Western Michigan has a decent offence and can score..
Got's lots of reading to do as always.....
My take on this game is a little different. I think I'm going to take Detroit -5 for a couple units. I see your points about WM not being as bad as people think. I also bet against Detroit against Youngstown St. However, the things that jump out at me about this game point to Detroit.
1. I think this Detroit team had a tough time filling the whole left by Nick Minnerath's season ending injury against Akron. That combined with the other player injuries and in-eligibilities had to make things tough for awhile. However, they looked better against Cleveland St and actually good against St Johns at times. I think the adjustments they're making are improving their team as they push forward.
2. While both teams are coming off a win, I think Detroit gets more of a boost here coming off a big win on national tv and playing their 4th straight home game. While the Western Mich kids have had one of the worst travel schedules of any team so far this year. And without a win over a D1 team, I've got to think these kids have more on their minds than basketball with finals next week and the holidays coming up.
3. In what should be a close game, I always put a lot of weight on FT% and Detroit shoots at 77% (11th best in the nation) while Western Michigan shoots an abysmal 61%.
Not trying to change your mind, if you decide to take Western Michigan, best of luck. And for the record, there are some angles I could see working in WM's favor: the let down for Detroit after a huge game, the look ahead factor to their next 2 big games, the rivalry factor of this game, the fact the WM kids are from Detroit etc.
I just think Detroit is a better play today. Should be an exciting matchup though.
Why is it that we all know parlays and teasers are horrible bets yet still can't stop clicking the submit button? I've gone 9-3 this week with nothing to show for it and my account is in the negative... FML!!! Keep up the good work boss!
I have done well with restraint over the years with parlay's and teaser's. They are not a long term successful wager, which is why they offer enticing payout's to us. Yesterday's was my 1st parlay od the season in CBB. It's going to be a long time before I play another...
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Quote Originally Posted by GrandMasterAL:
Why is it that we all know parlays and teasers are horrible bets yet still can't stop clicking the submit button? I've gone 9-3 this week with nothing to show for it and my account is in the negative... FML!!! Keep up the good work boss!
I have done well with restraint over the years with parlay's and teaser's. They are not a long term successful wager, which is why they offer enticing payout's to us. Yesterday's was my 1st parlay od the season in CBB. It's going to be a long time before I play another...
Any thoughts on the steelers at home vs cleve? Thanks
Baltimore was 7 pt favs at Cleveland and just 4 days later Pittsburgh is favored by double the amount. The books have made tonight's NFL game very hard for an advantage to wager on IMO. Lean to the 14 point's but probably won't play it...
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Quote Originally Posted by fupm:
Very well played OB!
Any thoughts on the steelers at home vs cleve? Thanks
Baltimore was 7 pt favs at Cleveland and just 4 days later Pittsburgh is favored by double the amount. The books have made tonight's NFL game very hard for an advantage to wager on IMO. Lean to the 14 point's but probably won't play it...
The main reason IMO for a distorted W/L% vs $$ W/L, is poor MM. The #1 bugaboo to any gambler. Prime example on another site, guy goes 3-1, & loses $$. 5U on 3W, 20 U on the loss, mind boggling. But, it happens ALL the time.
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Quote Originally Posted by TBallgame:
The main reason IMO for a distorted W/L% vs $$ W/L, is poor MM. The #1 bugaboo to any gambler. Prime example on another site, guy goes 3-1, & loses $$. 5U on 3W, 20 U on the loss, mind boggling. But, it happens ALL the time.
My take on this game is a little different. I think I'm going to take Detroit -5 for a couple units. I see your points about WM not being as bad as people think. I also bet against Detroit against Youngstown St. However, the things that jump out at me about this game point to Detroit.
1. I think this Detroit team had a tough time filling the whole left by Nick Minnerath's season ending injury against Akron. That combined with the other player injuries and in-eligibilities had to make things tough for awhile. However, they looked better against Cleveland St and actually good against St Johns at times. I think the adjustments they're making are improving their team as they push forward.
2. While both teams are coming off a win, I think Detroit gets more of a boost here coming off a big win on national tv and playing their 4th straight home game. While the Western Mich kids have had one of the worst travel schedules of any team so far this year. And without a win over a D1 team, I've got to think these kids have more on their minds than basketball with finals next week and the holidays coming up.
3. In what should be a close game, I always put a lot of weight on FT% and Detroit shoots at 77% (11th best in the nation) while Western Michigan shoots an abysmal 61%.
Not trying to change your mind, if you decide to take Western Michigan, best of luck. And for the record, there are some angles I could see working in WM's favor: the let down for Detroit after a huge game, the look ahead factor to their next 2 big games, the rivalry factor of this game, the fact the WM kids are from Detroit etc.
I just think Detroit is a better play today. Should be an exciting matchup though.
These kids are not thinking about the final exams as much as you think. BOL
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Quote Originally Posted by kdawgy:
My take on this game is a little different. I think I'm going to take Detroit -5 for a couple units. I see your points about WM not being as bad as people think. I also bet against Detroit against Youngstown St. However, the things that jump out at me about this game point to Detroit.
1. I think this Detroit team had a tough time filling the whole left by Nick Minnerath's season ending injury against Akron. That combined with the other player injuries and in-eligibilities had to make things tough for awhile. However, they looked better against Cleveland St and actually good against St Johns at times. I think the adjustments they're making are improving their team as they push forward.
2. While both teams are coming off a win, I think Detroit gets more of a boost here coming off a big win on national tv and playing their 4th straight home game. While the Western Mich kids have had one of the worst travel schedules of any team so far this year. And without a win over a D1 team, I've got to think these kids have more on their minds than basketball with finals next week and the holidays coming up.
3. In what should be a close game, I always put a lot of weight on FT% and Detroit shoots at 77% (11th best in the nation) while Western Michigan shoots an abysmal 61%.
Not trying to change your mind, if you decide to take Western Michigan, best of luck. And for the record, there are some angles I could see working in WM's favor: the let down for Detroit after a huge game, the look ahead factor to their next 2 big games, the rivalry factor of this game, the fact the WM kids are from Detroit etc.
I just think Detroit is a better play today. Should be an exciting matchup though.
These kids are not thinking about the final exams as much as you think. BOL
forward Nick Minnerath (Knee injury 2 minutes into the BGSU game). Although Lamarcus Lowe has been playing well lately he's more of a clean up guy and rebounder than a natural scorer. Eli Holman and Nick Minnerath are what make this team successful in the half court game and until they have the like's of at least one of them back they will continue to struggle in that set.
Odds, just a FYI....the word in the Detroit camp is that Minnerath is done for the remainder of the season, which is not good for the Titans. With the way Mac, and Simon have been playing, would have been nice to see Holman and Minny back this season.
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forward Nick Minnerath (Knee injury 2 minutes into the BGSU game). Although Lamarcus Lowe has been playing well lately he's more of a clean up guy and rebounder than a natural scorer. Eli Holman and Nick Minnerath are what make this team successful in the half court game and until they have the like's of at least one of them back they will continue to struggle in that set.
Odds, just a FYI....the word in the Detroit camp is that Minnerath is done for the remainder of the season, which is not good for the Titans. With the way Mac, and Simon have been playing, would have been nice to see Holman and Minny back this season.
forward Nick Minnerath (Knee injury 2 minutes into the BGSU game). Although Lamarcus Lowe has been playing well lately he's more of a clean up guy and rebounder than a natural scorer. Eli Holman and Nick Minnerath are what make this team successful in the half court game and until they have the like's of at least one of them back they will continue to struggle in that set.
Odds, just a FYI....the word in the Detroit camp is that Minnerath is done for the remainder of the season, which is not good for the Titans. With the way Mac, and Simon have been playing, would have been nice to see Holman and Minny back this season.
Yeah i'm just updating myself on this info as well. This is very bad news for the U of D Mercy community. They better hope they get their semi truck Eli Holman back soon...
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Quote Originally Posted by brandone:
forward Nick Minnerath (Knee injury 2 minutes into the BGSU game). Although Lamarcus Lowe has been playing well lately he's more of a clean up guy and rebounder than a natural scorer. Eli Holman and Nick Minnerath are what make this team successful in the half court game and until they have the like's of at least one of them back they will continue to struggle in that set.
Odds, just a FYI....the word in the Detroit camp is that Minnerath is done for the remainder of the season, which is not good for the Titans. With the way Mac, and Simon have been playing, would have been nice to see Holman and Minny back this season.
Yeah i'm just updating myself on this info as well. This is very bad news for the U of D Mercy community. They better hope they get their semi truck Eli Holman back soon...
Great job handicapping CBB games. Baltimore was favored by 7 in Cleveland while tonight Cleve is in Pittsburgh. Baltimore would be favored by 14 at home too versus Cleveland
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Great job handicapping CBB games. Baltimore was favored by 7 in Cleveland while tonight Cleve is in Pittsburgh. Baltimore would be favored by 14 at home too versus Cleveland
My take on this game is a little different. I think I'm going to take Detroit -5 for a couple units... I think Detroit gets more of a boost here coming off a big win on national tv and playing their 4th straight home game. While the Western Mich kids have had one of the worst travel schedules of any team so far this year. And without a win over a D1 team, I've got to think these kids have more on their minds than basketball with finals next week and the holidays coming up.
Kids at WMU are not worried about finals, trust me. Their passion is the sport they play and it pays for college...I went to a similar school and these guys are living and breathing basketball. Enough for my coach Carter impression. Plus they both have academic obligations, so that is a wash.
Regarding the worst travel schedule, are we looking at the same schedule? Gonzaga came to Michigan, they went alllll the way to Indiana for Purdue and they had to spend a few days in south dakota for the first game of the season...cake
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Quote Originally Posted by kdawgy:
My take on this game is a little different. I think I'm going to take Detroit -5 for a couple units... I think Detroit gets more of a boost here coming off a big win on national tv and playing their 4th straight home game. While the Western Mich kids have had one of the worst travel schedules of any team so far this year. And without a win over a D1 team, I've got to think these kids have more on their minds than basketball with finals next week and the holidays coming up.
Kids at WMU are not worried about finals, trust me. Their passion is the sport they play and it pays for college...I went to a similar school and these guys are living and breathing basketball. Enough for my coach Carter impression. Plus they both have academic obligations, so that is a wash.
Regarding the worst travel schedule, are we looking at the same schedule? Gonzaga came to Michigan, they went alllll the way to Indiana for Purdue and they had to spend a few days in south dakota for the first game of the season...cake
. The books have made tonight's NFL game very hard for an advantage to wager on IMO. Lean to the 14 point's but probably won't play it...
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