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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2020 - 11:45 PM ET #1

    Updated Indigo lines below.  The sportsbook lines have been moving towards my lines when there's been a big difference,...a good sign that my lines are worth more than a quarter.

    Indigo lines for Thursday

    Storm -9  163

    Sky     -2' 165

    Wings  -7 164

     

    Some game 6 angles.  

    A team that is off at least two straight games where they were the underdog have been 23-13 ATS.....Liberty, Fever.

    A team off two straight games that they were the favorite and now are a dog have been 2-8 ATS....possibly versus the Mercury if a dog tomorrow.

    If the Mercury instead are a favorite, those teams in game 6s have gone UNDER 16 out of 22 times.

    Teams off a dog win their last game have been 12-5 ATS in game 6.....Aces

    A team that has been an underdog their last two games facing a team that has been a favorite their last two has been 24-9 ATS and 12-22 O/U in games 5, 6 or 7.....if that team has lost at least their last two games they've been 8-3-1 and 7-5 straight up... Liberty.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Updated Indigo lines below.  The sportsbook lines have been moving towards my lines when there's been a big difference,...a good sign that my lines are worth more than a quarter.

    Indigo lines for Thursday

    Storm -9  163

    Sky     -2' 165

    Wings  -7 164

     

    Some game 6 angles.  

    A team that is off at least two straight games where they were the underdog have been 23-13 ATS.....Liberty, Fever.

    A team off two straight games that they were the favorite and now are a dog have been 2-8 ATS....possibly versus the Mercury if a dog tomorrow.

    If the Mercury instead are a favorite, those teams in game 6s have gone UNDER 16 out of 22 times.

    Teams off a dog win their last game have been 12-5 ATS in game 6.....Aces

    A team that has been an underdog their last two games facing a team that has been a favorite their last two has been 24-9 ATS and 12-22 O/U in games 5, 6 or 7.....if that team has lost at least their last two games they've been 8-3-1 and 7-5 straight up... Liberty.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 12:00 AM ET #2

    A team that won greater than 18 games last season, in games numbered 2-9, that is a favorite and has the better per game scoring margin.

    52-75 ATS, 40.9%, those teams are only 34-59 ATS in the same situation IF their present opponent won less than 19 games

    playoffs=0 and PRSW>19 and F and tA(margin)>oA(margin) and 10>game number>2

    Those teams that qualify this season?...Sky, Aces, Sparks, Mystics, Sun

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    A team that won greater than 18 games last season, in games numbered 2-9, that is a favorite and has the better per game scoring margin.

    52-75 ATS, 40.9%, those teams are only 34-59 ATS in the same situation IF their present opponent won less than 19 games

    playoffs=0 and PRSW>19 and F and tA(margin)>oA(margin) and 10>game number>2

    Those teams that qualify this season?...Sky, Aces, Sparks, Mystics, Sun

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 12:04 AM ET #3

    I've seen you on some good runs before and in the CFL as well but this one is pretty special.  Nice job Indy.  

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    I've seen you on some good runs before and in the CFL as well but this one is pretty special.  Nice job Indy.  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 12:08 AM ET #4

    Thanks Buddy.new_pleased

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    Ok, now a lecture boys and girls.

    Obviously our world right now is upside down and we're in situations we've never been before.  In every catastrophe there are opportunities....they say the rich make the most money in the stock market by buying up everything after the crash.  In March this year, the stock market plummeted when the market realized the extent of the pandemic.  It's shot up like a rocket from the middle of April onwards.

    When we're handicapping, we have to take into consideration a lot of variables, like travel, fatigue, different weather than what the players are used to, locational differences, time zone/bodyclock issues, etc.

    When doing double blind studies, researchers take out as many variabilities as possible, because experience has shown that variables change the validity AND the results of the test results.  Everyone is pretty much aware of that, except probably us as sports bettors.

    Right now, the variables are almost non-existent in ice hockey, WNBA and to a lesser extent the NBA.  Everyone is in the same location, no one has more fatigue than anyone else, (though  NBA teams are playing with different amounts of rest), no one is traveling, no one is used to one climate and playing in another.  The NHL for that matter is even better, because 3/4 of the teams are playing the same opponents over and over.

    ISN'T THAT GREAT??!!

    It's one of the best situations in our betting lives!   

    So, we should be paying attention to what is transpiring and having a decided advantage over the bookies.  

    I'll give you two examples.

    In the WNBA, where basically half of the games each team has the same amount of rest, everyone is playing the same game number, playing in an arena they've been playing in for at least a couple of weeks.  Everyone is familiar with the surroundings and basketball sometimes it can be  difficult with different lighting etc., to be comfortable in certain arenas that you aren't used to.

    The first two games of the season favorites went 6-6 ATS and OVERs went 8-3-1.  It's common the first two games for OVERs to do well in the W,...however after that game numbers 3,4 and 5 typically have been UNDER predominate.  So, we can look for that, but the amazing great thing about now in our betting world is we can verify how a trend is going by watching the first two games of the everyone's series of six games that transpires in the W this season.

    Over/unders in game numbers 3, 4 and 5 went 1-5 , 0-5-1 and 1-5 the next three series of games.  Has the bookmakers grabbed the clue?....nope, the totals have not gone down, and in fact they've increased.  No one should be thinking about betting OVERs if we're paying attention, despite how we feel about the fundamental handicapping matchups.  To validate what the trend is, we're watching the first two games of the series of six that happens in every round of the WNBA this season.  At a minimum we're not bucking the trend and at a maximum we're attempting to ride the wave.

    And let's face it too, the bookmakers don't care too much about the WNBA, the head bookmaker has hired his deadbeat son-in-law as an apprentice bookmaker and  he has given him the job making lines for the WNBA, which we're liking A LOT.

     

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    Ok, now a lecture boys and girls.

    Obviously our world right now is upside down and we're in situations we've never been before.  In every catastrophe there are opportunities....they say the rich make the most money in the stock market by buying up everything after the crash.  In March this year, the stock market plummeted when the market realized the extent of the pandemic.  It's shot up like a rocket from the middle of April onwards.

    When we're handicapping, we have to take into consideration a lot of variables, like travel, fatigue, different weather than what the players are used to, locational differences, time zone/bodyclock issues, etc.

    When doing double blind studies, researchers take out as many variabilities as possible, because experience has shown that variables change the validity AND the results of the test results.  Everyone is pretty much aware of that, except probably us as sports bettors.

    Right now, the variables are almost non-existent in ice hockey, WNBA and to a lesser extent the NBA.  Everyone is in the same location, no one has more fatigue than anyone else, (though  NBA teams are playing with different amounts of rest), no one is traveling, no one is used to one climate and playing in another.  The NHL for that matter is even better, because 3/4 of the teams are playing the same opponents over and over.

    ISN'T THAT GREAT??!!

    It's one of the best situations in our betting lives!   

    So, we should be paying attention to what is transpiring and having a decided advantage over the bookies.  

    I'll give you two examples.

    In the WNBA, where basically half of the games each team has the same amount of rest, everyone is playing the same game number, playing in an arena they've been playing in for at least a couple of weeks.  Everyone is familiar with the surroundings and basketball sometimes it can be  difficult with different lighting etc., to be comfortable in certain arenas that you aren't used to.

    The first two games of the season favorites went 6-6 ATS and OVERs went 8-3-1.  It's common the first two games for OVERs to do well in the W,...however after that game numbers 3,4 and 5 typically have been UNDER predominate.  So, we can look for that, but the amazing great thing about now in our betting world is we can verify how a trend is going by watching the first two games of the everyone's series of six games that transpires in the W this season.

    Over/unders in game numbers 3, 4 and 5 went 1-5 , 0-5-1 and 1-5 the next three series of games.  Has the bookmakers grabbed the clue?....nope, the totals have not gone down, and in fact they've increased.  No one should be thinking about betting OVERs if we're paying attention, despite how we feel about the fundamental handicapping matchups.  To validate what the trend is, we're watching the first two games of the series of six that happens in every round of the WNBA this season.  At a minimum we're not bucking the trend and at a maximum we're attempting to ride the wave.

    And let's face it too, the bookmakers don't care too much about the WNBA, the head bookmaker has hired his deadbeat son-in-law as an apprentice bookmaker and  he has given him the job making lines for the WNBA, which we're liking A LOT.

     

     
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    The second example is in the NHL. which as I said, is the BEST example of ALL the variables being taken out of the equation.

    Five lower seeded teams won their first game as underdogs (Minnesota was a very slight favorite) in their first one to win three games series.....Minnesota, Chicago, Montreal, Arizona and Columbus. They all play at different times which gives us an opportunity to see if there's a trend that's developed.

    Everyone of them lost their second game.

    Today 3 out of 5 of them played, and guess what?....they all had the same result, they all won again.  Minnesota and Columbus play tomorrow.  Can you guess who I might be playing?  I don't really care that Minnesota has lost x amount of times to Vancouver in the past, or the matchups are bad, or that I know that I scored 5 goals in a game once against the Minnesota goalie (not true, but I am embellishing the story).  I am either playing Minnesota and Columbus or I'm passing the game.

    The trend should dominate our thinking and our betting lives for at least this particular portion of our lives.

    "Alright Men and Women, Boys and Girls, be careful, it's a jungle out there."

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    The second example is in the NHL. which as I said, is the BEST example of ALL the variables being taken out of the equation.

    Five lower seeded teams won their first game as underdogs (Minnesota was a very slight favorite) in their first one to win three games series.....Minnesota, Chicago, Montreal, Arizona and Columbus. They all play at different times which gives us an opportunity to see if there's a trend that's developed.

    Everyone of them lost their second game.

    Today 3 out of 5 of them played, and guess what?....they all had the same result, they all won again.  Minnesota and Columbus play tomorrow.  Can you guess who I might be playing?  I don't really care that Minnesota has lost x amount of times to Vancouver in the past, or the matchups are bad, or that I know that I scored 5 goals in a game once against the Minnesota goalie (not true, but I am embellishing the story).  I am either playing Minnesota and Columbus or I'm passing the game.

    The trend should dominate our thinking and our betting lives for at least this particular portion of our lives.

    "Alright Men and Women, Boys and Girls, be careful, it's a jungle out there."

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 5:56 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Updated Indigo lines below.  The sportsbook lines have been moving towards my lines when there's been a big difference,...a good sign that my lines are worth more than a quarter. Indigo lines for Thursday Storm -9  163 Sky     -2' 165 Wings  -7 164   Some game 6 angles.   A team that is off at least two straight games where they were the underdog have been 23-13 ATS.....Liberty, Fever. A team off two straight games that they were the favorite and now are a dog have been 2-8 ATS....possibly versus the Mercury if a dog tomorrow. If the Mercury instead are a favorite, those teams in game 6s have gone UNDER 16 out of 22 times. Teams off a dog win their last game have been 12-5 ATS in game 6.....Aces A team that has been an underdog their last two games facing a team that has been a favorite their last two has been 24-9 ATS and 12-22 O/U in games 5, 6 or 7.....if that team has lost at least their last two games they've been 8-3-1 and 7-5 straight up... Liberty.

     

    why -7 wings ouch ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Updated Indigo lines below.  The sportsbook lines have been moving towards my lines when there's been a big difference,...a good sign that my lines are worth more than a quarter. Indigo lines for Thursday Storm -9  163 Sky     -2' 165 Wings  -7 164   Some game 6 angles.   A team that is off at least two straight games where they were the underdog have been 23-13 ATS.....Liberty, Fever. A team off two straight games that they were the favorite and now are a dog have been 2-8 ATS....possibly versus the Mercury if a dog tomorrow. If the Mercury instead are a favorite, those teams in game 6s have gone UNDER 16 out of 22 times. Teams off a dog win their last game have been 12-5 ATS in game 6.....Aces A team that has been an underdog their last two games facing a team that has been a favorite their last two has been 24-9 ATS and 12-22 O/U in games 5, 6 or 7.....if that team has lost at least their last two games they've been 8-3-1 and 7-5 straight up... Liberty.

     

    why -7 wings ouch ?

     
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    Everyone has got an opinion and I don't expect mine to match yours. 

    I'll use mine to make money and you can do whatever you wish to with yours.

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    Everyone has got an opinion and I don't expect mine to match yours. 

    I'll use mine to make money and you can do whatever you wish to with yours.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 9:39 AM ET #9

    Lines are out.  My Indigo lines in brackets. 

    As I have said many times before, I am not predicting what the sportsbook lines will be, but I am assessing the relative strength of the teame.

    Storm   -8'  160         (-9   163)

    Wings   pik 158'         (-7   164) 

    Mercury -3  175'        (+2'  165)

     

    As usual, we have some unusual and interesting lines.

     

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    Lines are out.  My Indigo lines in brackets. 

    As I have said many times before, I am not predicting what the sportsbook lines will be, but I am assessing the relative strength of the teame.

    Storm   -8'  160         (-9   163)

    Wings   pik 158'         (-7   164) 

    Mercury -3  175'        (+2'  165)

     

    As usual, we have some unusual and interesting lines.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 9:43 AM ET #10

    In game 6, we often a change in totals from very severe UNDERs to OVERs for the next 3-4 games.

    I have an indicator for an UNDER in the Mercury game, but we'll see how the first two games go first.

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    In game 6, we often a change in totals from very severe UNDERs to OVERs for the next 3-4 games.

    I have an indicator for an UNDER in the Mercury game, but we'll see how the first two games go first.

     
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    Good read man    You are wearing out that SDQL.   Lol

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    Good read man    You are wearing out that SDQL.   Lol

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 10:58 AM ET #12

    The line in the Wings game was too good to be true,....before my bookie offered me a line it has moved 5 points to -5.

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    The line in the Wings game was too good to be true,....before my bookie offered me a line it has moved 5 points to -5.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 12:19 PM ET #13

    Well, perhaps I am getting old.

    The line on the Sun/Wings game was Wings PLUS 3.5, not  MINUS 3.5, which I find to be incredible.

    So perhaps 3 or 4 players on the Wings have coronavirus that I'm not aware of, otherwise what the hell?!

    One doesn't have be a knowledgeable sports person to win at sports betting, and in fact in the stock market,.....the very best at that are often physics and math wizards.  I have been watching and playing ball for over 50 years, and the Sun have no chance of being a good team this year, and Alyssa Thomas and Kurt look ready for a divorce.  There is a 10.5 point difference between what I'd make the line and what someone in a sports linemaking office somewhere in the world has put out.  

    So, the line is absurd and maybe if there are sadists  in this forum they will laugh after the fact and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.....well, we'll see. 

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    1)    Wings +3' 

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    Well, perhaps I am getting old.

    The line on the Sun/Wings game was Wings PLUS 3.5, not  MINUS 3.5, which I find to be incredible.

    So perhaps 3 or 4 players on the Wings have coronavirus that I'm not aware of, otherwise what the hell?!

    One doesn't have be a knowledgeable sports person to win at sports betting, and in fact in the stock market,.....the very best at that are often physics and math wizards.  I have been watching and playing ball for over 50 years, and the Sun have no chance of being a good team this year, and Alyssa Thomas and Kurt look ready for a divorce.  There is a 10.5 point difference between what I'd make the line and what someone in a sports linemaking office somewhere in the world has put out.  

    So, the line is absurd and maybe if there are sadists  in this forum they will laugh after the fact and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.....well, we'll see. 

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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 2:10 PM ET #14

    So do you like Minny in hockey? 

    Thanks

     

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    So do you like Minny in hockey? 

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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 2:10 PM ET #15

    So do you like Minny in hockey? 

    Thanks

     

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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 2:29 PM ET #16

    Indigo any SDQL on when 2 shitty teams and 2 shitty offensive teams meet? I've done well in NBA reg season when 2 bottom dweller meet take the over as they both are desperate for a feel good win and don't want to be labeled as worst team so tend to play hard until the final whistle. I kinda like the over 158.5 especially since it opened at 161 despite these rather anemic offenses, makes me think it can get to 160 somehow with fouls or OT but then I usually check the box score and someone puts up an 8pt qtr to doom my wager. Thanks.

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    Indigo any SDQL on when 2 shitty teams and 2 shitty offensive teams meet? I've done well in NBA reg season when 2 bottom dweller meet take the over as they both are desperate for a feel good win and don't want to be labeled as worst team so tend to play hard until the final whistle. I kinda like the over 158.5 especially since it opened at 161 despite these rather anemic offenses, makes me think it can get to 160 somehow with fouls or OT but then I usually check the box score and someone puts up an 8pt qtr to doom my wager. Thanks.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 3:29 PM ET #17

    Trumpinator....yeah I played the Blue Jackets and the Wild....I just woke up as we have a pretty different time zone compared to the north america.

    Straight Wagers, the two crummy offensive teams is dificult to query because scoring has increased dramatically the last couple of years. 

    When I queried how two teams do that were below 42% winning percentage in the first 10 games of the season with a total of <162, the dog was 33-23 ATS and the o/u was 27-30.

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    Trumpinator....yeah I played the Blue Jackets and the Wild....I just woke up as we have a pretty different time zone compared to the north america.

    Straight Wagers, the two crummy offensive teams is dificult to query because scoring has increased dramatically the last couple of years. 

    When I queried how two teams do that were below 42% winning percentage in the first 10 games of the season with a total of <162, the dog was 33-23 ATS and the o/u was 27-30.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 3:36 PM ET #18

    thank you!

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    thank you!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 5:50 PM ET #19

    I had an indicated play on the Dream, but I cannot make myself play on them or against the Storm.  I think the Dream are poorly coached and the Seattle scheme is excellent.  I don't like Canada and Lloyd as a back court against good teams that can run a coherent offense and have one good defender on Stewart, then I don't think Seattle can win.  The Dream rookie is very good, but they have two other very good shooters in Stricklen and Williams that are never open in the Dream offense.  Courtney Williams is a shell of her former self, so maybe it was Curt scheming for her that made her very good for the Sun.  I also found some UNDER indicators, but I wish to see if things have changed totals-wise in game 6...if the first two games were to go UNDER today, I might go looking for more in the next four games.

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    2)  Sky -3

    There's no dramatic HUGE historical data to back up the Sky here...game six in the past has lead to reversals of trends.  I like having  betting on teams with a very good point guard and who are very well coached.  The Sky have that and the Mercury don't.

    If Taurasi decides to show up, the bet could go down in flames, but she can't be bothered more often than not these days.

    1)  Wings +3'

    I played this to a lesser extent on the moneyline also (+150).  This is the second highest rated play I have so far this season after the Wings covering last game versus the Sky.  Often, if things seem to be too good to be true, we find out later why they really weren't...we'll hope that  this isn't one of those cases.

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    I had an indicated play on the Dream, but I cannot make myself play on them or against the Storm.  I think the Dream are poorly coached and the Seattle scheme is excellent.  I don't like Canada and Lloyd as a back court against good teams that can run a coherent offense and have one good defender on Stewart, then I don't think Seattle can win.  The Dream rookie is very good, but they have two other very good shooters in Stricklen and Williams that are never open in the Dream offense.  Courtney Williams is a shell of her former self, so maybe it was Curt scheming for her that made her very good for the Sun.  I also found some UNDER indicators, but I wish to see if things have changed totals-wise in game 6...if the first two games were to go UNDER today, I might go looking for more in the next four games.

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    2)  Sky -3

    There's no dramatic HUGE historical data to back up the Sky here...game six in the past has lead to reversals of trends.  I like having  betting on teams with a very good point guard and who are very well coached.  The Sky have that and the Mercury don't.

    If Taurasi decides to show up, the bet could go down in flames, but she can't be bothered more often than not these days.

    1)  Wings +3'

    I played this to a lesser extent on the moneyline also (+150).  This is the second highest rated play I have so far this season after the Wings covering last game versus the Sky.  Often, if things seem to be too good to be true, we find out later why they really weren't...we'll hope that  this isn't one of those cases.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 7:57 PM ET #20

    All over the wings +3.5 line hasn’t moved in a minute so we’ll see. love your insights indigo let’s get itpeace_5

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    All over the wings +3.5 line hasn’t moved in a minute so we’ll see. love your insights indigo let’s get itpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 7:57 PM ET #21

    The indicators for the Storm game was to take the underdog and the UNDER.  Looks like the run of UNDERs may be over.

    Mystics fall into the same angle tomorrow, and play the inept Liberty.  I mentioned earlier that good teams can have their way with the Liberty when they want to, which, with  the Mystics being off a loss, I'd say they'll want to play hard tomorrow.

    My  line for the Liberty is +17 tomorrow.

     

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    The indicators for the Storm game was to take the underdog and the UNDER.  Looks like the run of UNDERs may be over.

    Mystics fall into the same angle tomorrow, and play the inept Liberty.  I mentioned earlier that good teams can have their way with the Liberty when they want to, which, with  the Mystics being off a loss, I'd say they'll want to play hard tomorrow.

    My  line for the Liberty is +17 tomorrow.

     

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2020 - 5:19 AM ET #22

    Horrible day, my picks stunk.

    1)  Sky -3 loss

    2)  Wings +3' loss

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    Horrible day, my picks stunk.

    1)  Sky -3 loss

    2)  Wings +3' loss

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