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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2011 - 11:34 PM ET #226

    So you bought a membership on Veripicks to track the plays or actually play them? Because if you had access to 20+ sportsbooks as you say, then you'd know this line was available for 211 at Bodog. What the average was across the industry or with your local bookie makes absolutely no difference.

    I would suggest that you play every game the way Veripicks decides and not play any extra juice or buy any points. So tonight you would have had Lakers Under 211 (if you bet it at 1 of your 20 sportsbooks which I'm sure includes Bodog). If you lose then report it here as your "official record".

    Veripicks has hit at 56% win rate since you joined and not once has this difference in the line mattered, although it's important enough to you that you've now made 5 posts about it. I would hate to think you have any ulterior motives for your posts.
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    So you bought a membership on Veripicks to track the plays or actually play them? Because if you had access to 20+ sportsbooks as you say, then you'd know this line was available for 211 at Bodog. What the average was across the industry or with your local bookie makes absolutely no difference.

    I would suggest that you play every game the way Veripicks decides and not play any extra juice or buy any points. So tonight you would have had Lakers Under 211 (if you bet it at 1 of your 20 sportsbooks which I'm sure includes Bodog). If you lose then report it here as your "official record".

    Veripicks has hit at 56% win rate since you joined and not once has this difference in the line mattered, although it's important enough to you that you've now made 5 posts about it. I would hate to think you have any ulterior motives for your posts.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 1:49 AM ET #227

    Nope, no ulterior motives.

    I'm not mad about the lines; I'm simply stating facts. Even with your Bodog line (which, God no, I would never use Bodog or recommend them to anyone else) "Veripicks" posted the play at 213, NOT 211. The industry average at tipoff was 209.5. So, even against Bodog, it was a 2-point difference.

    You're correct, the difference in line has not mattered, but the difference is certainly there.

    I'm not attacking your website, just giving the pro's and con's alike, so please don't get so defensive. Thanks Veripicks!


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    Nope, no ulterior motives.

    I'm not mad about the lines; I'm simply stating facts. Even with your Bodog line (which, God no, I would never use Bodog or recommend them to anyone else) "Veripicks" posted the play at 213, NOT 211. The industry average at tipoff was 209.5. So, even against Bodog, it was a 2-point difference.

    You're correct, the difference in line has not mattered, but the difference is certainly there.

    I'm not attacking your website, just giving the pro's and con's alike, so please don't get so defensive. Thanks Veripicks!


     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 1:52 AM ET #228

    The watchlist always has very accurate lines, but when the pick is made official, there is sometimes a disparity in the line. Not always, just a couple here and there, and the Lakers/Nuggets was the most glaring.

    Big slate tomorrow, good luck!
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    The watchlist always has very accurate lines, but when the pick is made official, there is sometimes a disparity in the line. Not always, just a couple here and there, and the Lakers/Nuggets was the most glaring.

    Big slate tomorrow, good luck!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 8:02 AM ET #229

    The reason why Bodog is a very important place for our wagering is they have such square action the lines are usually perfect for us since we bet against the public.

    You are right on the watchlist it's just pulling in the current line to show you what's available. I'll check this week to see what we can do about pulling the best possible line from multiple sportsbooks. I just think it will take too much time to decide.

    SJP - I might dislike your approach to what you are doing - but I love the concept. We have many members (not hundreds like some people like to tout) of Veripicks and I think it's great to have someone give their honest opinion of the software. You seem very detailed and hopefully straightforward so I look forward to your comments.

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    The reason why Bodog is a very important place for our wagering is they have such square action the lines are usually perfect for us since we bet against the public.

    You are right on the watchlist it's just pulling in the current line to show you what's available. I'll check this week to see what we can do about pulling the best possible line from multiple sportsbooks. I just think it will take too much time to decide.

    SJP - I might dislike your approach to what you are doing - but I love the concept. We have many members (not hundreds like some people like to tout) of Veripicks and I think it's great to have someone give their honest opinion of the software. You seem very detailed and hopefully straightforward so I look forward to your comments.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 8:10 AM ET #230

    Veripicks went 5-5 (50%) -$40 last night as we struggle to hit one game without losing another. There is going to be a HUGE card today so remember to use strong money management and let's win!!

    If you are ready to start winning with us, go to https://www.veripicks.com and see what it's all about. All our picks are documented and available on the site. We are up +$2,492 for the month of January alone off $100 bets!!

    I'll be out the rest of the day but of course we will be playing along with everyone using Veripicks. Good Luck!

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    Veripicks went 5-5 (50%) -$40 last night as we struggle to hit one game without losing another. There is going to be a HUGE card today so remember to use strong money management and let's win!!

    If you are ready to start winning with us, go to https://www.veripicks.com and see what it's all about. All our picks are documented and available on the site. We are up +$2,492 for the month of January alone off $100 bets!!

    I'll be out the rest of the day but of course we will be playing along with everyone using Veripicks. Good Luck!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 8:18 PM ET #231

    Alabama is graded as a "winner" on your records VS Auburn.

    The line was -10 very early in the day, and moved to -10.5, -11, and -11.5.

    It should either be a push, but most likely for most users, it was a loss.

    Thanks!
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    Alabama is graded as a "winner" on your records VS Auburn.

    The line was -10 very early in the day, and moved to -10.5, -11, and -11.5.

    It should either be a push, but most likely for most users, it was a loss.

    Thanks!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2011 - 10:26 PM ET #232

    UTEP should also be a push.

    Positive day so far even with those 2 changes though!
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    UTEP should also be a push.

    Positive day so far even with those 2 changes though!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 1:16 AM ET #233

    Tonight's slate was pretty good! 25-23-2 should be the adjusted record, but the +400ML pick really bumped the profits.

    Good job! Make sure you get the record corrected though!

    Thanks!
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    Tonight's slate was pretty good! 25-23-2 should be the adjusted record, but the +400ML pick really bumped the profits.

    Good job! Make sure you get the record corrected though!

    Thanks!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 1:19 AM ET #234

    26-22-2*
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 8:12 AM ET #235

    nice record ,,, love the site ,,,
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    nice record ,,, love the site ,,,
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 8:36 AM ET #236

    Had to update a ton of games with lines that were off and true to our word did.

    OKC Thunder was graded as a loss.

    Detroit +1.5/2 was a win instead of a loss as it was +2 when the game started at almost every sportsbook.
    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=795195&sport=nba

    Alabama has been graded a push as it was available at over 8 sportsbooks at -10 at tipoff: https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=803844&sport=ncb

    Utep was a win for us and majority of users as over 10+ books had it at -4.5:
    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=803888&sport=ncb

    The Moneyline we won was +500 at the time of wager so it worked out better when that line was adjusted too (we got it at +495).

    Overall record was 28-23-1 (55%) +$790. This was a ton of games to try and get in and bet so on hectic days if you don't have the time then you should consider playing only the 80-100 unit plays as they went 19-9 (68%) +$1,355.

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    Had to update a ton of games with lines that were off and true to our word did.

    OKC Thunder was graded as a loss.

    Detroit +1.5/2 was a win instead of a loss as it was +2 when the game started at almost every sportsbook.
    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=795195&sport=nba

    Alabama has been graded a push as it was available at over 8 sportsbooks at -10 at tipoff: https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=803844&sport=ncb

    Utep was a win for us and majority of users as over 10+ books had it at -4.5:
    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=803888&sport=ncb

    The Moneyline we won was +500 at the time of wager so it worked out better when that line was adjusted too (we got it at +495).

    Overall record was 28-23-1 (55%) +$790. This was a ton of games to try and get in and bet so on hectic days if you don't have the time then you should consider playing only the 80-100 unit plays as they went 19-9 (68%) +$1,355.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 11:59 AM ET #237

    What is the purpose of listing the units for the plays?

    For instance, there are plays that say "70 units" but the wager is $110 to win $100.

    Thanks!
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    What is the purpose of listing the units for the plays?

    For instance, there are plays that say "70 units" but the wager is $110 to win $100.

    Thanks!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 12:25 PM ET #238

    Quote Originally Posted by veripicks:

    Had to update a ton of games with lines that were off and true to our word did.

    OKC Thunder was graded as a loss.

    Detroit +1.5/2 was a win instead of a loss as it was +2 when the game started at almost every sportsbook.
    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=795195&sport=nba

    Alabama has been graded a push as it was available at over 8 sportsbooks at -10 at tipoff: https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=803844&sport=ncb

    Utep was a win for us and majority of users as over 10+ books had it at -4.5:
    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=803888&sport=ncb

    The Moneyline we won was +500 at the time of wager so it worked out better when that line was adjusted too (we got it at +495).

    Overall record was 28-23-1 (55%) +$790. This was a ton of games to try and get in and bet so on hectic days if you don't have the time then you should consider playing only the 80-100 unit plays as they went 19-9 (68%) +$1,355.



    Alabama should be graded as a loss, and UTEP should be a push in order to maintain the integrity of the record keeping. That's just my opinion though.

    Thanks Veripicks! Good luck today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by veripicks:

    Had to update a ton of games with lines that were off and true to our word did.

    OKC Thunder was graded as a loss.

    Detroit +1.5/2 was a win instead of a loss as it was +2 when the game started at almost every sportsbook.
    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=795195&sport=nba

    Alabama has been graded a push as it was available at over 8 sportsbooks at -10 at tipoff: https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=803844&sport=ncb

    Utep was a win for us and majority of users as over 10+ books had it at -4.5:
    https://www.covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=803888&sport=ncb

    The Moneyline we won was +500 at the time of wager so it worked out better when that line was adjusted too (we got it at +495).

    Overall record was 28-23-1 (55%) +$790. This was a ton of games to try and get in and bet so on hectic days if you don't have the time then you should consider playing only the 80-100 unit plays as they went 19-9 (68%) +$1,355.



    Alabama should be graded as a loss, and UTEP should be a push in order to maintain the integrity of the record keeping. That's just my opinion though.

    Thanks Veripicks! Good luck today!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 12:40 PM ET #239

    Quote Originally Posted by SarahJPhilli:

    What is the purpose of listing the units for the plays?

    For instance, there are plays that say "70 units" but the wager is $110 to win $100.

    Thanks!


    Some client's only play the theoretically higher percentage plays, but the system counts all picks as equal plays.  I for one play all the picks, but wager more on the higher unit plays. 

    As for me I only have two sportsbooks that I use online along side rarely using a local bookie.  I got Alabama -10 and UTEP -4.5 right before tipoff at BookMaker.  I agree sometimes my lines are not as good as what Veripicks gets, however on the flip side I do occasionally get better lines. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahJPhilli:

    What is the purpose of listing the units for the plays?

    For instance, there are plays that say "70 units" but the wager is $110 to win $100.

    Thanks!


    Some client's only play the theoretically higher percentage plays, but the system counts all picks as equal plays.  I for one play all the picks, but wager more on the higher unit plays. 

    As for me I only have two sportsbooks that I use online along side rarely using a local bookie.  I got Alabama -10 and UTEP -4.5 right before tipoff at BookMaker.  I agree sometimes my lines are not as good as what Veripicks gets, however on the flip side I do occasionally get better lines. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Chalk_Hawk:



    Some client's only play the theoretically higher percentage plays, but the system counts all picks as equal plays.  I for one play all the picks, but wager more on the higher unit plays. 

    As for me I only have two sportsbooks that I use online along side rarely using a local bookie.  I got Alabama -10 and UTEP -4.5 right before tipoff at BookMaker.  I agree sometimes my lines are not as good as what Veripicks gets, however on the flip side I do occasionally get better lines. 


    I see, I see. Where I'm confused is, sometimes a 70 unit play will be to win 100, and sometimes it's to win 70. What causes this difference?

    Also, do you know the overall win-loss record for 70 unit/80 unit/90 unit/100 unit plays in January? Thanks!
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    Some client's only play the theoretically higher percentage plays, but the system counts all picks as equal plays.  I for one play all the picks, but wager more on the higher unit plays. 

    As for me I only have two sportsbooks that I use online along side rarely using a local bookie.  I got Alabama -10 and UTEP -4.5 right before tipoff at BookMaker.  I agree sometimes my lines are not as good as what Veripicks gets, however on the flip side I do occasionally get better lines. 


    I see, I see. Where I'm confused is, sometimes a 70 unit play will be to win 100, and sometimes it's to win 70. What causes this difference?

    Also, do you know the overall win-loss record for 70 unit/80 unit/90 unit/100 unit plays in January? Thanks!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 1:37 PM ET #241

    Not sure what causes that, I think it may be a glitch in the system as those seem to be sent out in text messages as Kansas (0) even though the play was Kansas -7, but either way it lost.

    I am not sure what the record is for those plays in January, let me go back and give you some idea, while I may have missed less than ten plays in that time span.  I'll post later when I get a close estimate on it.
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    Not sure what causes that, I think it may be a glitch in the system as those seem to be sent out in text messages as Kansas (0) even though the play was Kansas -7, but either way it lost.

    I am not sure what the record is for those plays in January, let me go back and give you some idea, while I may have missed less than ten plays in that time span.  I'll post later when I get a close estimate on it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 2:28 PM ET #242

    Here is what I got, given I didn't play somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 games or so for the month. 

    70 Unit Plays (84-86-1)  Hitting 2 ML plays of +135 and +275
    80 UP's (33-30-3) Hitting ML of +425, +220, and +355.
    90 UP's (32-25-2)
    100 UP's (41-31) Hitting ML play of +600.

    Again this is me using the system, not what the system came up with as sometimes our lines will differ a bit.  Hope this helps.


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    Here is what I got, given I didn't play somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 games or so for the month. 

    70 Unit Plays (84-86-1)  Hitting 2 ML plays of +135 and +275
    80 UP's (33-30-3) Hitting ML of +425, +220, and +355.
    90 UP's (32-25-2)
    100 UP's (41-31) Hitting ML play of +600.

    Again this is me using the system, not what the system came up with as sometimes our lines will differ a bit.  Hope this helps.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 9:09 PM ET #243

    how do i get my free day? system went 54.9% and not 55! 

    i actually couldnt keep up with the 50+ plays cuz my account maxed after i had like 20 bets going at one point so my percentage was actually a bit lower then the 55% but all in all i like the site!


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    how do i get my free day? system went 54.9% and not 55! 

    i actually couldnt keep up with the 50+ plays cuz my account maxed after i had like 20 bets going at one point so my percentage was actually a bit lower then the 55% but all in all i like the site!


     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 10:10 PM ET #244

    Quote Originally Posted by bigrick2234:

    how do i get my free day? system went 54.9% and not 55! 

    i actually couldnt keep up with the 50+ plays cuz my account maxed after i had like 20 bets going at one point so my percentage was actually a bit lower then the 55% but all in all i like the site!




    Free day? Cheapskate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrick2234:

    how do i get my free day? system went 54.9% and not 55! 

    i actually couldnt keep up with the 50+ plays cuz my account maxed after i had like 20 bets going at one point so my percentage was actually a bit lower then the 55% but all in all i like the site!




    Free day? Cheapskate.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2011 - 10:12 PM ET #245

    Good day today.

    I purchased 1 point to get Wisconsin-Green Bay at +9, but it was irrelevant as they won outright. I didn't play the +750 ML, but rather, doubled my bet on Niagara against the spread (+12.5) and purchased .5 on that line to match Veripicks line. I played Iowa OVER 137 (1 point better than the line Veripicks played) and won easily.

    I went 3-1 on the day using a truncated version of the plays. Veripicks went 3-2.

    Great job! Looking forward to tomorrow.


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    Good day today.

    I purchased 1 point to get Wisconsin-Green Bay at +9, but it was irrelevant as they won outright. I didn't play the +750 ML, but rather, doubled my bet on Niagara against the spread (+12.5) and purchased .5 on that line to match Veripicks line. I played Iowa OVER 137 (1 point better than the line Veripicks played) and won easily.

    I went 3-1 on the day using a truncated version of the plays. Veripicks went 3-2.

    Great job! Looking forward to tomorrow.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2011 - 9:21 AM ET #246

    bigrick2234 - no problem you got a free big monday! You are the first person we've actually had to pay out to! You should look at sticking to 80-100 unit plays on Saturdays because so many games are played it's going to have a ton of them.

    SJP - we do the same thing on the ML plays. On ML games, we bet the ML (but not a full bet) and then the spread BIG.

    On Buying Points: We don't buy points too often unless we are betting on a 80/90/100 unit plays as these have been the strongest plays. If Veripicks says under 215 and the line is 213.5 then we buy up to 214 because we feel Under 215 will win so we are looking at worst case scenario a push (nothing is guaranteed of course).

    On the 70-100 ranking system this is a way for Veripicks to rank the plays. On the History page it does not follow proper money management (as we should) it just bets everything at "max bet". If you look at https://www.veripicks.com/index.php?page=pick&focus=money you will see what we suggest to do for money management and the units. This is really for newbies of Veripicks until they really get to know the system and understand they can't play their own picks, and they must keep to a system and strong money management.

    Guys, if I missed something in this thread let me know. I should be around all day. Looking forward to another profitable night!


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    bigrick2234 - no problem you got a free big monday! You are the first person we've actually had to pay out to! You should look at sticking to 80-100 unit plays on Saturdays because so many games are played it's going to have a ton of them.

    SJP - we do the same thing on the ML plays. On ML games, we bet the ML (but not a full bet) and then the spread BIG.

    On Buying Points: We don't buy points too often unless we are betting on a 80/90/100 unit plays as these have been the strongest plays. If Veripicks says under 215 and the line is 213.5 then we buy up to 214 because we feel Under 215 will win so we are looking at worst case scenario a push (nothing is guaranteed of course).

    On the 70-100 ranking system this is a way for Veripicks to rank the plays. On the History page it does not follow proper money management (as we should) it just bets everything at "max bet". If you look at https://www.veripicks.com/index.php?page=pick&focus=money you will see what we suggest to do for money management and the units. This is really for newbies of Veripicks until they really get to know the system and understand they can't play their own picks, and they must keep to a system and strong money management.

    Guys, if I missed something in this thread let me know. I should be around all day. Looking forward to another profitable night!


     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2011 - 12:56 PM ET #247

    I think the biggest confusion we are having with the system would be when it sends out picks like for instance Saturday when it sent out Kansas (0) and Western Kentucky (0) even though both of those were favorites.  It doesn't say ML and I know you tried to set up the system where it wouldn't do heavy favorite ML's.  I think it just may be a glitch in the system as it seems to intend to take that team minus the spread.  It seems to happen on the picks where it wagers 70 to win 70 or something that is a bit strange for the system.
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    I think the biggest confusion we are having with the system would be when it sends out picks like for instance Saturday when it sent out Kansas (0) and Western Kentucky (0) even though both of those were favorites.  It doesn't say ML and I know you tried to set up the system where it wouldn't do heavy favorite ML's.  I think it just may be a glitch in the system as it seems to intend to take that team minus the spread.  It seems to happen on the picks where it wagers 70 to win 70 or something that is a bit strange for the system.
     
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    Hey RCH - that's exactly what it is - a glitch. For some reason when Bodog releases it's line (by XML feed) they send out a 0 then five minutes later they send out the actual line. This makes our system believe it's moved from say 0 to -7 or whatever. Unless the text message says ML then it's not the Moneyline but the spread. I think we have a fix in place for this and will see if the problem is solved in the next few days. Just for the record - never ever ever ever ever play a favorite on the ML with our system.

    Again, sorry for this issue. I've seen it in the past on a few occasions but was unsure of what it was doing. I think we've got it figured out now.
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    Hey RCH - that's exactly what it is - a glitch. For some reason when Bodog releases it's line (by XML feed) they send out a 0 then five minutes later they send out the actual line. This makes our system believe it's moved from say 0 to -7 or whatever. Unless the text message says ML then it's not the Moneyline but the spread. I think we have a fix in place for this and will see if the problem is solved in the next few days. Just for the record - never ever ever ever ever play a favorite on the ML with our system.

    Again, sorry for this issue. I've seen it in the past on a few occasions but was unsure of what it was doing. I think we've got it figured out now.
     
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