come on people. it is very nice you all are excited but from too much trees one will not be able to see the forest. each new post makes me to jump and while i expect the trading signal from mavin - i find yet another newbie being excited and overly enthusiastic. if i learned something about mavin - he is not a big fan of overreaction. calm down everyone and let him focus on his trades. because as soon as his "highness" will wake up and get to covers - he will first have to read all those comments and may be even answer some and this will take away his focus.
Gotta agree with Mister Phixer here. Calm down guys and let the man do his job quetly and with full focus
Quote Originally Posted by phixer:
come on people. it is very nice you all are excited but from too much trees one will not be able to see the forest. each new post makes me to jump and while i expect the trading signal from mavin - i find yet another newbie being excited and overly enthusiastic. if i learned something about mavin - he is not a big fan of overreaction. calm down everyone and let him focus on his trades. because as soon as his "highness" will wake up and get to covers - he will first have to read all those comments and may be even answer some and this will take away his focus.
Gotta agree with Mister Phixer here. Calm down guys and let the man do his job quetly and with full focus
come on people. it is very nice you all are excited but from too much trees one will not be able to see the forest. each new post makes me to jump and while i expect the trading signal from mavin - i find yet another newbie being excited and overly enthusiastic. if i learned something about mavin - he is not a big fan of overreaction. calm down everyone and let him focus on his trades. because as soon as his "highness" will wake up and get to covers - he will first have to read all those comments and may be even answer some and this will take away his focus.
I'm sorry Phixer, but I do not appreciate you calling us newbies, especially since I have been following Mavin's work for quit sometime and opened this Covers account just so I can keep in touch with all he does. I'm here for Mavin- simple as that. You shouldn't judge users by their number of posts, it's ridiculous.
Quote Originally Posted by phixer:
come on people. it is very nice you all are excited but from too much trees one will not be able to see the forest. each new post makes me to jump and while i expect the trading signal from mavin - i find yet another newbie being excited and overly enthusiastic. if i learned something about mavin - he is not a big fan of overreaction. calm down everyone and let him focus on his trades. because as soon as his "highness" will wake up and get to covers - he will first have to read all those comments and may be even answer some and this will take away his focus.
I'm sorry Phixer, but I do not appreciate you calling us newbies, especially since I have been following Mavin's work for quit sometime and opened this Covers account just so I can keep in touch with all he does. I'm here for Mavin- simple as that. You shouldn't judge users by their number of posts, it's ridiculous.
This one was so unbelievable, I had to check with Reuters and came out that the rate at 14:00 was really 15,274.75. Simply the surge was so rapid I couldn't catch it. Well, hope this small misfortunes on what I consider a Right Trades will stop at that and from now on another 3 trades will all go through.
Loss -1900$ 0-2
-3800$
Quote Originally Posted by SportsMavin:
822694
$ 2,000.00
DOW
13:42 10/07/13
15,276.09
14:00 10/07/13
CALL
822694
$ 2,000.00
DOW
13:42 10/07/13
15,276.09
14:00 10/07/13
15,274.75
$ 100.00
This one was so unbelievable, I had to check with Reuters and came out that the rate at 14:00 was really 15,274.75. Simply the surge was so rapid I couldn't catch it. Well, hope this small misfortunes on what I consider a Right Trades will stop at that and from now on another 3 trades will all go through.
Just checking, but will say that happened to me twice already- never the less the charts had the right amount of closing and Optionrally had a diff amount- that is the one thing am not too familiar with on binaries- the quote system- they also messed up on the closing price for AAPL yesterday- I know they get their quotes from TR but while currency i can understand the diff because i think it goes by bid ask not the last trade on the currency, on stocks it should be the same across the board- aapl can't close at 419 in one place and 419.15 in the other (numbers as example)
Trying to find out why the diff an the lag on some of these things that can be traded in binaries.
Quote Originally Posted by SportsMavin:
822593
$ 2,000.00
AUD/USD
12:10 10/07/13
0.91441
13:00 10/07/13
0.91442
$ 100.00
R U Kidding me? By a single pip???
Loss -1900$ 0-1
Just checking, but will say that happened to me twice already- never the less the charts had the right amount of closing and Optionrally had a diff amount- that is the one thing am not too familiar with on binaries- the quote system- they also messed up on the closing price for AAPL yesterday- I know they get their quotes from TR but while currency i can understand the diff because i think it goes by bid ask not the last trade on the currency, on stocks it should be the same across the board- aapl can't close at 419 in one place and 419.15 in the other (numbers as example)
Trying to find out why the diff an the lag on some of these things that can be traded in binaries.
Just checking, but will say that happened to me twice already- never the less the charts had the right amount of closing and Optionrally had a diff amount- that is the one thing am not too familiar with on binaries- the quote system- they also messed up on the closing price for AAPL yesterday- I know they get their quotes from TR but while currency i can understand the diff because i think it goes by bid ask not the last trade on the currency, on stocks it should be the same across the board- aapl can't close at 419 in one place and 419.15 in the other (numbers as example)
Trying to find out why the diff an the lag on some of these things that can be traded in binaries.
There's no such thing as a different closing price. I also entertained myself sometimes when losing closely and then went to reuters and some other sources (reuters is the official source world wide) and saw that the price was right). Check the same ones you say were different and you'll find out the same thing I did - the prices are exactly the same as Optionrally is not setting the price but Spotoption which is synced with Reuters and Liquidity provider. We know that from sports as if you lost because of put on some price - there are others who won on call so come on Turbo...
Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:
Just checking, but will say that happened to me twice already- never the less the charts had the right amount of closing and Optionrally had a diff amount- that is the one thing am not too familiar with on binaries- the quote system- they also messed up on the closing price for AAPL yesterday- I know they get their quotes from TR but while currency i can understand the diff because i think it goes by bid ask not the last trade on the currency, on stocks it should be the same across the board- aapl can't close at 419 in one place and 419.15 in the other (numbers as example)
Trying to find out why the diff an the lag on some of these things that can be traded in binaries.
There's no such thing as a different closing price. I also entertained myself sometimes when losing closely and then went to reuters and some other sources (reuters is the official source world wide) and saw that the price was right). Check the same ones you say were different and you'll find out the same thing I did - the prices are exactly the same as Optionrally is not setting the price but Spotoption which is synced with Reuters and Liquidity provider. We know that from sports as if you lost because of put on some price - there are others who won on call so come on Turbo...
Just checking, but will say that happened to me twice already- never the less the charts had the right amount of closing and Optionrally had a diff amount- that is the one thing am not too familiar with on binaries- the quote system- they also messed up on the closing price for AAPL yesterday- I know they get their quotes from TR but while currency i can understand the diff because i think it goes by bid ask not the last trade on the currency, on stocks it should be the same across the board- aapl can't close at 419 in one place and 419.15 in the other (numbers as example)
Trying to find out why the diff an the lag on some of these things that can be traded in binaries.
As an individual relatively new to binary options, I have made some observations that are worth noting and may aid Turbo and others in realizing that the closing numbers are always accurate. Where the platforms get their ever so slight advantage is their ability to modify the prices prior to the the no trade time frame. It is with this knowledge that it is our responsibility, as the trader, to determine which way the platform is modifying the price and trade accordingly. For example, with the particular chart that I prefer to use, the EUR/USD currency pair is always 12 pips below Spotoption's number. If I want to place a put/call option and I see that the discrepancy is greater than 12 pips, I know that the prevailing trend is most likely upwards - or Mavin has placed a call for $5000 and moved the price up on the platform (some may laugh, but I have seen this happen). In significant trends I have seen the EUR/USD as high as 30 pips off the number (prior to the expiry) that I'm seeing on my non platform chart. Once you make this realization and trade accordingly, you might just find yourself on the other side of some of these 1 pip losses. Or realize that it isn't worth trading at all and wait for the next opportunity. I compare this to bookies raising the juice on favourites that are getting all the action. Good luck all and congrats on another winning day Mavin.
Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:
Just checking, but will say that happened to me twice already- never the less the charts had the right amount of closing and Optionrally had a diff amount- that is the one thing am not too familiar with on binaries- the quote system- they also messed up on the closing price for AAPL yesterday- I know they get their quotes from TR but while currency i can understand the diff because i think it goes by bid ask not the last trade on the currency, on stocks it should be the same across the board- aapl can't close at 419 in one place and 419.15 in the other (numbers as example)
Trying to find out why the diff an the lag on some of these things that can be traded in binaries.
As an individual relatively new to binary options, I have made some observations that are worth noting and may aid Turbo and others in realizing that the closing numbers are always accurate. Where the platforms get their ever so slight advantage is their ability to modify the prices prior to the the no trade time frame. It is with this knowledge that it is our responsibility, as the trader, to determine which way the platform is modifying the price and trade accordingly. For example, with the particular chart that I prefer to use, the EUR/USD currency pair is always 12 pips below Spotoption's number. If I want to place a put/call option and I see that the discrepancy is greater than 12 pips, I know that the prevailing trend is most likely upwards - or Mavin has placed a call for $5000 and moved the price up on the platform (some may laugh, but I have seen this happen). In significant trends I have seen the EUR/USD as high as 30 pips off the number (prior to the expiry) that I'm seeing on my non platform chart. Once you make this realization and trade accordingly, you might just find yourself on the other side of some of these 1 pip losses. Or realize that it isn't worth trading at all and wait for the next opportunity. I compare this to bookies raising the juice on favourites that are getting all the action. Good luck all and congrats on another winning day Mavin.
As an individual relatively new to binary options, I have made some observations that are worth noting and may aid Turbo and others in realizing that the closing numbers are always accurate. Where the platforms get their ever so slight advantage is their ability to modify the prices prior to the the no trade time frame. It is with this knowledge that it is our responsibility, as the trader, to determine which way the platform is modifying the price and trade accordingly. For example, with the particular chart that I prefer to use, the EUR/USD currency pair is always 12 pips below Spotoption's number. If I want to place a put/call option and I see that the discrepancy is greater than 12 pips, I know that the prevailing trend is most likely upwards - or Mavin has placed a call for $5000 and moved the price up on the platform (some may laugh, but I have seen this happen). In significant trends I have seen the EUR/USD as high as 30 pips off the number (prior to the expiry) that I'm seeing on my non platform chart. Once you make this realization and trade accordingly, you might just find yourself on the other side of some of these 1 pip losses. Or realize that it isn't worth trading at all and wait for the next opportunity. I compare this to bookies raising the juice on favourites that are getting all the action. Good luck all and congrats on another winning day Mavin.
Valuable observations Lank66. Should be noted by everyone who wants to understand the essence of binary platform operations and identify profitable trends. It is a fact that once a popular trader posts a trading position and those who follow position their trades - the move in a wanted direction is inevitable at least for a short period until the platform adjusts itself in a defensive mode but the price at the expiry time is still true and accurate. It is like a reverse psychology that we sometimes take an advantage of it number of times with the same trades with the same asset and the same expiry time. True, it can backfire at times but the positive outcomes are with much higher frequency.
Thanks for the props Lank66 and GL
Quote Originally Posted by Lank66:
As an individual relatively new to binary options, I have made some observations that are worth noting and may aid Turbo and others in realizing that the closing numbers are always accurate. Where the platforms get their ever so slight advantage is their ability to modify the prices prior to the the no trade time frame. It is with this knowledge that it is our responsibility, as the trader, to determine which way the platform is modifying the price and trade accordingly. For example, with the particular chart that I prefer to use, the EUR/USD currency pair is always 12 pips below Spotoption's number. If I want to place a put/call option and I see that the discrepancy is greater than 12 pips, I know that the prevailing trend is most likely upwards - or Mavin has placed a call for $5000 and moved the price up on the platform (some may laugh, but I have seen this happen). In significant trends I have seen the EUR/USD as high as 30 pips off the number (prior to the expiry) that I'm seeing on my non platform chart. Once you make this realization and trade accordingly, you might just find yourself on the other side of some of these 1 pip losses. Or realize that it isn't worth trading at all and wait for the next opportunity. I compare this to bookies raising the juice on favourites that are getting all the action. Good luck all and congrats on another winning day Mavin.
Valuable observations Lank66. Should be noted by everyone who wants to understand the essence of binary platform operations and identify profitable trends. It is a fact that once a popular trader posts a trading position and those who follow position their trades - the move in a wanted direction is inevitable at least for a short period until the platform adjusts itself in a defensive mode but the price at the expiry time is still true and accurate. It is like a reverse psychology that we sometimes take an advantage of it number of times with the same trades with the same asset and the same expiry time. True, it can backfire at times but the positive outcomes are with much higher frequency.
There's no such thing as a different closing price. I also entertained myself sometimes when losing closely and then went to reuters and some other sources (reuters is the official source world wide) and saw that the price was right). Check the same ones you say were different and you'll find out the same thing I did - the prices are exactly the same as Optionrally is not setting the price but Spotoption which is synced with Reuters and Liquidity provider. We know that from sports as if you lost because of put on some price - there are others who won on call so come on Turbo...
Mavin, as you know I don't make excuses and my memory has total recall almost on everything I see, that being said I also take screen shots of real trades going through the system and the pricing on option rally and either option rally is way ahead of my level II real time quotes and time and sales or my system is way behind- keep in mind that what I think its happening is the quotes that are on option rally have a certain spread if you are too far from the expiry, as you get closer that spread narrows, this could be an advantage if you feel you are getting a better price according to your trend direction but sometimes you click on that price and in the 2 sec that it goes though you get a diff price meaning the system adjusts-
the trade in question is a trade I won- by more than the diff I am speaking off closing price put on AAPL on monday 7/9/13 16:00 I had a put at $422.64 Optionrally has $422.34 Thompson has $422.35 granted this is only one trade but it proves my point- and the lesson to be had is to only bet the trend you have charted when you can have a 2-5% window for these sort of anomalies. I have spoken about this with optionrally before I even began trading because when I had a sample account at another binary provider they made similar mistakes one I spotted was .15 off from reuters price- different binary house so lets not beat that dead horse.
AAPL closing prices Option Rally on left thompson on right...
7/9/13 16:00 $422.34 $422.35
7/9/13 15:30 $423.03 $423.00
7/9/13 15:00 $422.21 $422.23
7/9/13 14:30 $421.5650 $421.53
I can go on forever but just beware and allow for enough room- I did no trades today on binaries but if you think the above are tiny differences then how about today's closing prices...
7/10/13 16:00 $420.4050 $420.73
.33 cents in binaries even on a high priced stock is still odd when the quotes are coming from a place with diff numbers.
This is not bitter about the trade lost on aapl by pennies but just very diligent observations.
Quote Originally Posted by SportsMavin:
There's no such thing as a different closing price. I also entertained myself sometimes when losing closely and then went to reuters and some other sources (reuters is the official source world wide) and saw that the price was right). Check the same ones you say were different and you'll find out the same thing I did - the prices are exactly the same as Optionrally is not setting the price but Spotoption which is synced with Reuters and Liquidity provider. We know that from sports as if you lost because of put on some price - there are others who won on call so come on Turbo...
Mavin, as you know I don't make excuses and my memory has total recall almost on everything I see, that being said I also take screen shots of real trades going through the system and the pricing on option rally and either option rally is way ahead of my level II real time quotes and time and sales or my system is way behind- keep in mind that what I think its happening is the quotes that are on option rally have a certain spread if you are too far from the expiry, as you get closer that spread narrows, this could be an advantage if you feel you are getting a better price according to your trend direction but sometimes you click on that price and in the 2 sec that it goes though you get a diff price meaning the system adjusts-
the trade in question is a trade I won- by more than the diff I am speaking off closing price put on AAPL on monday 7/9/13 16:00 I had a put at $422.64 Optionrally has $422.34 Thompson has $422.35 granted this is only one trade but it proves my point- and the lesson to be had is to only bet the trend you have charted when you can have a 2-5% window for these sort of anomalies. I have spoken about this with optionrally before I even began trading because when I had a sample account at another binary provider they made similar mistakes one I spotted was .15 off from reuters price- different binary house so lets not beat that dead horse.
AAPL closing prices Option Rally on left thompson on right...
7/9/13 16:00 $422.34 $422.35
7/9/13 15:30 $423.03 $423.00
7/9/13 15:00 $422.21 $422.23
7/9/13 14:30 $421.5650 $421.53
I can go on forever but just beware and allow for enough room- I did no trades today on binaries but if you think the above are tiny differences then how about today's closing prices...
7/10/13 16:00 $420.4050 $420.73
.33 cents in binaries even on a high priced stock is still odd when the quotes are coming from a place with diff numbers.
This is not bitter about the trade lost on aapl by pennies but just very diligent observations.
Mavin, as you know I don't make excuses and my memory has total recall almost on everything I see, that being said I also take screen shots of real trades going through the system and the pricing on option rally and either option rally is way ahead of my level II real time quotes and time and sales or my system is way behind- keep in mind that what I think its happening is the quotes that are on option rally have a certain spread if you are too far from the expiry, as you get closer that spread narrows, this could be an advantage if you feel you are getting a better price according to your trend direction but sometimes you click on that price and in the 2 sec that it goes though you get a diff price meaning the system adjusts-
the trade in question is a trade I won- by more than the diff I am speaking off closing price put on AAPL on monday 7/9/13 16:00 I had a put at $422.64 Optionrally has $422.34 Thompson has $422.35 granted this is only one trade but it proves my point- and the lesson to be had is to only bet the trend you have charted when you can have a 2-5% window for these sort of anomalies. I have spoken about this with optionrally before I even began trading because when I had a sample account at another binary provider they made similar mistakes one I spotted was .15 off from reuters price- different binary house so lets not beat that dead horse.
AAPL closing prices Option Rally on left thompson on right...
7/9/13 16:00 $422.34 $422.35
7/9/13 15:30 $423.03 $423.00
7/9/13 15:00 $422.21 $422.23
7/9/13 14:30 $421.5650 $421.53
I can go on forever but just beware and allow for enough room- I did no trades today on binaries but if you think the above are tiny differences then how about today's closing prices...
7/10/13 16:00 $420.4050 $420.73
.33 cents in binaries even on a high priced stock is still odd when the quotes are coming from a place with diff numbers.
This is not bitter about the trade lost on aapl by pennies but just very diligent observations.
turbovtk - whassup? if i may interfere with your rare disagreement with mavin - i must ask you: thomson or thompson - because those are two different sources as thomson reuters is the one all the markets get their pricing from while thompson - i could not even get a chart from them. one more thing i learned with the time is that optionrally is a label which is working on spotoption platform and the reason mavin has chosen that label from the beginning and most of us followed thru is the people who operate it as all the other numeric data or the risk data comes from a platform provider including the data youre talking about. and if you study the matter further - you will understand that there must be one source - like in sports - that provides final data by which the trades will be settled and you dont really imply that this is done manually for each and every pip? of course not. it is automatically linked to the thomson reuters (not thompson) and whatever comes in from there is what the platform shows. anomalities can be between one source or another but the source that world markets settle the trades by is a mutual one to all of them.
now, me and mavin and as you saw at some parts even his lazy highness kingmidas has been managing to win nicely with the platform existing and once you will get more fluent with it (as you most probably do not follow anyone by knowing you) - youll produce steady winners as well. but basically people who come on mavin's thread here are doing that for his trades. that is what i think.
Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:
Mavin, as you know I don't make excuses and my memory has total recall almost on everything I see, that being said I also take screen shots of real trades going through the system and the pricing on option rally and either option rally is way ahead of my level II real time quotes and time and sales or my system is way behind- keep in mind that what I think its happening is the quotes that are on option rally have a certain spread if you are too far from the expiry, as you get closer that spread narrows, this could be an advantage if you feel you are getting a better price according to your trend direction but sometimes you click on that price and in the 2 sec that it goes though you get a diff price meaning the system adjusts-
the trade in question is a trade I won- by more than the diff I am speaking off closing price put on AAPL on monday 7/9/13 16:00 I had a put at $422.64 Optionrally has $422.34 Thompson has $422.35 granted this is only one trade but it proves my point- and the lesson to be had is to only bet the trend you have charted when you can have a 2-5% window for these sort of anomalies. I have spoken about this with optionrally before I even began trading because when I had a sample account at another binary provider they made similar mistakes one I spotted was .15 off from reuters price- different binary house so lets not beat that dead horse.
AAPL closing prices Option Rally on left thompson on right...
7/9/13 16:00 $422.34 $422.35
7/9/13 15:30 $423.03 $423.00
7/9/13 15:00 $422.21 $422.23
7/9/13 14:30 $421.5650 $421.53
I can go on forever but just beware and allow for enough room- I did no trades today on binaries but if you think the above are tiny differences then how about today's closing prices...
7/10/13 16:00 $420.4050 $420.73
.33 cents in binaries even on a high priced stock is still odd when the quotes are coming from a place with diff numbers.
This is not bitter about the trade lost on aapl by pennies but just very diligent observations.
turbovtk - whassup? if i may interfere with your rare disagreement with mavin - i must ask you: thomson or thompson - because those are two different sources as thomson reuters is the one all the markets get their pricing from while thompson - i could not even get a chart from them. one more thing i learned with the time is that optionrally is a label which is working on spotoption platform and the reason mavin has chosen that label from the beginning and most of us followed thru is the people who operate it as all the other numeric data or the risk data comes from a platform provider including the data youre talking about. and if you study the matter further - you will understand that there must be one source - like in sports - that provides final data by which the trades will be settled and you dont really imply that this is done manually for each and every pip? of course not. it is automatically linked to the thomson reuters (not thompson) and whatever comes in from there is what the platform shows. anomalities can be between one source or another but the source that world markets settle the trades by is a mutual one to all of them.
now, me and mavin and as you saw at some parts even his lazy highness kingmidas has been managing to win nicely with the platform existing and once you will get more fluent with it (as you most probably do not follow anyone by knowing you) - youll produce steady winners as well. but basically people who come on mavin's thread here are doing that for his trades. that is what i think.
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