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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:00 PM ET #6426

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Bet Purdue this am at the best line in town -5.5. I'm not a mind reader unfortuently.. I though blowout and was THRILLED to get it at -5.5 bc I though would go to -6 or -6.5 and it goes to -4.5 WOW


    I hate to burst your bubble, but the real pros who do this everyday for a real living, almost always know which way the line is going to move.  Thats why their pros and you are just a fly by the seat of your pants bettor.
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    Bet Purdue this am at the best line in town -5.5. I'm not a mind reader unfortuently.. I though blowout and was THRILLED to get it at -5.5 bc I though would go to -6 or -6.5 and it goes to -4.5 WOW


    I hate to burst your bubble, but the real pros who do this everyday for a real living, almost always know which way the line is going to move.  Thats why their pros and you are just a fly by the seat of your pants bettor.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:04 PM ET #6427

    actually agree with bunk/tdogg on the kings tonight. ML at least
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    actually agree with bunk/tdogg on the kings tonight. ML at least
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:09 PM ET #6428

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Tsw- how bout last night? Lose spurs ML +105 $1000/$1050 up 3 and Leonard misses NOT ONE but TWO ft's and then This today... Don't make it seem like I'm not unlucky bc u just look foolish
    This is why they shouldn't be 1000 instead of 500.  These things happen. I always say if you play a game and it comes down to a one (or even two) possession game to cover your spread---then you should've stayed away.  You simply bet into a coin flip line at -110. You didn't find an edge.  Just gambling instead of handicapping. 
    Either way keep up the winning % and you will be fine. 
    No excuses are needed on bad beats or credit on lucky wins are needed---they even out. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Tsw- how bout last night? Lose spurs ML +105 $1000/$1050 up 3 and Leonard misses NOT ONE but TWO ft's and then This today... Don't make it seem like I'm not unlucky bc u just look foolish
    This is why they shouldn't be 1000 instead of 500.  These things happen. I always say if you play a game and it comes down to a one (or even two) possession game to cover your spread---then you should've stayed away.  You simply bet into a coin flip line at -110. You didn't find an edge.  Just gambling instead of handicapping. 
    Either way keep up the winning % and you will be fine. 
    No excuses are needed on bad beats or credit on lucky wins are needed---they even out. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:10 PM ET #6429

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:



    Theres something you just have learned to grasp yet and that is games like this are part of gambling.  Everybody on the planet has this type of stuff happen to them.  Why dont you eep track of the games that you win, that you shouldnt have.

    Seems you have an excuse for every loser.  If you are gonna do this for the rest of your life, you better start realizing now these things are always going to happen.  If gambling was easy, we would all be rich from it

    Don't worry man, nothing can derail CG and his betting empire. He's so good that whenever he wins it's really easy and the only way he can lose is because of a curse put on him by a witch doctor. And besides it's not like he's risking on average more than 5% of his BR on each game. Right?
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    Theres something you just have learned to grasp yet and that is games like this are part of gambling.  Everybody on the planet has this type of stuff happen to them.  Why dont you eep track of the games that you win, that you shouldnt have.

    Seems you have an excuse for every loser.  If you are gonna do this for the rest of your life, you better start realizing now these things are always going to happen.  If gambling was easy, we would all be rich from it

    Don't worry man, nothing can derail CG and his betting empire. He's so good that whenever he wins it's really easy and the only way he can lose is because of a curse put on him by a witch doctor. And besides it's not like he's risking on average more than 5% of his BR on each game. Right?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:14 PM ET #6430

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:



    I hate to burst your bubble, but the real pros who do this everyday for a real living, almost always know which way the line is going to move.  Thats why their pros and you are just a fly by the seat of your pants bettor.
    Haha!  Of course they don't. 
    Listen to shows of them or read write ups.  They are quite often wrong.  But yes they are right more than you---and it doesn't take much to add up. 
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    I hate to burst your bubble, but the real pros who do this everyday for a real living, almost always know which way the line is going to move.  Thats why their pros and you are just a fly by the seat of your pants bettor.
    Haha!  Of course they don't. 
    Listen to shows of them or read write ups.  They are quite often wrong.  But yes they are right more than you---and it doesn't take much to add up. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:15 PM ET #6431

    The sad part is I just looked the book I made my Purdue bet at the line closed at -4.5. That is some sick sick sick shitt. What would make people bet pathetic psu today?
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    The sad part is I just looked the book I made my Purdue bet at the line closed at -4.5. That is some sick sick sick shitt. What would make people bet pathetic psu today?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:18 PM ET #6432

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    The sad part is I just looked the book I made my Purdue bet at the line closed at -4.5. That is some sick sick sick shitt. What would make people bet pathetic psu today?

    +5.5 is a lot of points, especially for a motivated team.  So many ways to cover, including a good performance, a back door job, lousy foul shooting by the team ahead late, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    The sad part is I just looked the book I made my Purdue bet at the line closed at -4.5. That is some sick sick sick shitt. What would make people bet pathetic psu today?

    +5.5 is a lot of points, especially for a motivated team.  So many ways to cover, including a good performance, a back door job, lousy foul shooting by the team ahead late, etc.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:21 PM ET #6433

    No videos in days And you seem to vig out nightly. Coincidence? Just saying
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    No videos in days And you seem to vig out nightly. Coincidence? Just saying
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:22 PM ET #6434

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Tsw- how bout last night? Lose spurs ML +105 $1000/$1050 up 3 and Leonard misses NOT ONE but TWO ft's and then This today... Don't make it seem like I'm not unlucky bc u just look foolish

    Wasn't it lucky they got the offensive rebound before the missed free throws?  
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    Tsw- how bout last night? Lose spurs ML +105 $1000/$1050 up 3 and Leonard misses NOT ONE but TWO ft's and then This today... Don't make it seem like I'm not unlucky bc u just look foolish

    Wasn't it lucky they got the offensive rebound before the missed free throws?  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:26 PM ET #6435

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Haha!  Of course they don't. 
    Listen to shows of them or read write ups.  They are quite often wrong.  But yes they are right more than you---and it doesn't take much to add up. 


    Raiders, you are the one who is  The books hate the sharps who know which way the moves are gonna go and thats because their numbers are better then the books.  In fact i was actually talking with Scott at the greek this very week about the subject.
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    Haha!  Of course they don't. 
    Listen to shows of them or read write ups.  They are quite often wrong.  But yes they are right more than you---and it doesn't take much to add up. 


    Raiders, you are the one who is  The books hate the sharps who know which way the moves are gonna go and thats because their numbers are better then the books.  In fact i was actually talking with Scott at the greek this very week about the subject.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:28 PM ET #6436

    boys and girls luck is part of this thing called gambling.  You better start realizing that
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    boys and girls luck is part of this thing called gambling.  You better start realizing that
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:



    Raiders, you are the one who is  The books hate the sharps who know which way the moves are gonna go and thats because their numbers are better then the books.  In fact i was actually talking with Scott at the greek this very week about the subject.
    Sure they know a little more than you do. That is what helps them.  Just don't like the way it was worded. Saying they ALWAYS know which way it will move is absurd. They are simply right more than others.  This was used as a putdown on CG since he guessed wrong is all. That to me is uncalled for.   
    No handicapper says he 'knows' which way the line is going to move. He wil say he thinks or feels. Etc. Point is they are wrong a lot as well. This was an attempt at a putdown and just wanted to correct it is all. 
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    Raiders, you are the one who is  The books hate the sharps who know which way the moves are gonna go and thats because their numbers are better then the books.  In fact i was actually talking with Scott at the greek this very week about the subject.
    Sure they know a little more than you do. That is what helps them.  Just don't like the way it was worded. Saying they ALWAYS know which way it will move is absurd. They are simply right more than others.  This was used as a putdown on CG since he guessed wrong is all. That to me is uncalled for.   
    No handicapper says he 'knows' which way the line is going to move. He wil say he thinks or feels. Etc. Point is they are wrong a lot as well. This was an attempt at a putdown and just wanted to correct it is all. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Sure they know a little more than you do. That is what helps them.  Just don't like the way it was worded. Saying they ALWAYS know which way it will move is absurd. They are simply right more than others.  This was used as a putdown on CG since he guessed wrong is all. That to me is uncalled for.   
    No handicapper says he 'knows' which way the line is going to move. He wil say he thinks or feels. Etc. Point is they are wrong a lot as well. This was an attempt at a putdown and just wanted to correct it is all. 




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    Sure they know a little more than you do. That is what helps them.  Just don't like the way it was worded. Saying they ALWAYS know which way it will move is absurd. They are simply right more than others.  This was used as a putdown on CG since he guessed wrong is all. That to me is uncalled for.   
    No handicapper says he 'knows' which way the line is going to move. He wil say he thinks or feels. Etc. Point is they are wrong a lot as well. This was an attempt at a putdown and just wanted to correct it is all. 




     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:44 PM ET #6439

    Michigan State Spartans -1.5 (-110) $1100/$1000. I like Sparty to win this one by two or more. Izzo and company are clutch usually in big 10 tourney
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    Michigan State Spartans -1.5 (-110) $1100/$1000. I like Sparty to win this one by two or more. Izzo and company are clutch usually in big 10 tourney
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:48 PM ET #6440

    CG,

    How about a VIDEO???
    GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!!!

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    CG,

    How about a VIDEO???
    GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!!!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:49 PM ET #6441

    Ucla Bruins +11.5 (-110) $1100/$1000. The bruins covered at zona and they are 4-0 for me in pro career ATS. Haven't bet ucla in a while but they have been good to me and I'm rolling with them in this spot
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    Ucla Bruins +11.5 (-110) $1100/$1000. The bruins covered at zona and they are 4-0 for me in pro career ATS. Haven't bet ucla in a while but they have been good to me and I'm rolling with them in this spot
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:54 PM ET #6442

    After seeing how you handicap these games, iam truly amazed that you arent busted yet.

    for one izzo doesnt have the power house team he usually has and betting ucla because they have been good to you in the past, is insane
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    After seeing how you handicap these games, iam truly amazed that you arent busted yet.

    for one izzo doesnt have the power house team he usually has and betting ucla because they have been good to you in the past, is insane
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:56 PM ET #6443

    Yea smarter they r -1.5 at every single location in Las Vegas except Jerry's nugget in north Las Vegas and u could easily get shot there in broad daylight. Went there once to get best line, not heading back
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    Yea smarter they r -1.5 at every single location in Las Vegas except Jerry's nugget in north Las Vegas and u could easily get shot there in broad daylight. Went there once to get best line, not heading back
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:57 PM ET #6444

    Updated https://goo.gl/lfl5IT

    W L P W% Profit
    Moneyline bets 0 2 0 - -$1,100
    Spread bets 42 32 1 56.76% -$1,750

    Grand total 42 34 1 - -$2,850
    (Spread bets breakdown)
    NBA 13 6 0 68.42% -$450
    NCAAB 29 26 1 52.73% -$1,300

    5K plays 0 1 0 0.00% -$5,500
    1K plays 12 11 0 52.17% -$300
    0.5K plays 31 20 1 60.78% $3,950

    Favs 18 20 0 47.37% -$4,210
    Dogs 24 12 1 66.67% $2,460

    Home 25 23 0 52.08% -$150
    Road 10 4 1 71.43% -$2,100
    Neutral 7 5 0 58.33% $500
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    Updated https://goo.gl/lfl5IT

    W L P W% Profit
    Moneyline bets 0 2 0 - -$1,100
    Spread bets 42 32 1 56.76% -$1,750

    Grand total 42 34 1 - -$2,850
    (Spread bets breakdown)
    NBA 13 6 0 68.42% -$450
    NCAAB 29 26 1 52.73% -$1,300

    5K plays 0 1 0 0.00% -$5,500
    1K plays 12 11 0 52.17% -$300
    0.5K plays 31 20 1 60.78% $3,950

    Favs 18 20 0 47.37% -$4,210
    Dogs 24 12 1 66.67% $2,460

    Home 25 23 0 52.08% -$150
    Road 10 4 1 71.43% -$2,100
    Neutral 7 5 0 58.33% $500
     
    collegegambler
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 6:58 PM ET #6445

    Yea meanwhile CD it takes miracle losses each day to keep me from being + $ so no idea wtf ur talking about. I cap the games much longer than the simple sentences I write, after I make a play. I'm usually mobile too.
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    Yea meanwhile CD it takes miracle losses each day to keep me from being + $ so no idea wtf ur talking about. I cap the games much longer than the simple sentences I write, after I make a play. I'm usually mobile too.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 7:00 PM ET #6446

    https://goo.gl/lfl5IT

    Profit to date if staking from start was:
    Flat $550 $2,671
    Flat $1100 $5,342
    3% of BR $4,154
    5% of BR $6,268

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    MILFs slayed 2
    Tilapias consumed 18
    TB's chugged 99
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    https://goo.gl/lfl5IT

    Profit to date if staking from start was:
    Flat $550 $2,671
    Flat $1100 $5,342
    3% of BR $4,154
    5% of BR $6,268

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    MILFs slayed 2
    Tilapias consumed 18
    TB's chugged 99
     
    KennyWoo
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 7:05 PM ET #6447

    Quote Originally Posted by Bermax:

    https://goo.gl/lfl5IT

    Profit to date if staking from start was:
    Flat $550 $2,671
    Flat $1100 $5,342
    3% of BR $4,154
    5% of BR $6,268

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    MILFs slayed 2
    Tilapias consumed 18
    TB's chugged 99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bermax:

    https://goo.gl/lfl5IT

    Profit to date if staking from start was:
    Flat $550 $2,671
    Flat $1100 $5,342
    3% of BR $4,154
    5% of BR $6,268

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    MILFs slayed 2
    Tilapias consumed 18
    TB's chugged 99

     
    cd329
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 7:11 PM ET #6448

    CG,
     tough losses are part of the game.  If you keep track of all the miracle finishes that you get to win games, you will see they even out.

    Guys are gonna keep breaking your balls about how you never post any good info as to why you made your picks.  All you keep saying is there were other things, but its weird that you never post the other things and instead post silly facts as reasons why you made the plays.

    Maybe you have other reasons for your picks, but am starting to doubt it.  You will go broke if this is truly how you pick games {ucla has been good to me in the past, so lets throw down 1k on them tonight}

    I would expect since you are a pro now, you would have your own set of power ratings that you make and use as one of your first things that you use.  I doubt you have your own numbers thou
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    CG,
     tough losses are part of the game.  If you keep track of all the miracle finishes that you get to win games, you will see they even out.

    Guys are gonna keep breaking your balls about how you never post any good info as to why you made your picks.  All you keep saying is there were other things, but its weird that you never post the other things and instead post silly facts as reasons why you made the plays.

    Maybe you have other reasons for your picks, but am starting to doubt it.  You will go broke if this is truly how you pick games {ucla has been good to me in the past, so lets throw down 1k on them tonight}

    I would expect since you are a pro now, you would have your own set of power ratings that you make and use as one of your first things that you use.  I doubt you have your own numbers thou
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 7:13 PM ET #6449

    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:



    At the risk of having you talk about me eating turds.....why in the world are you betting a game you think is going to come down to the final possession? That is the exact game you want to avoid. There are 45 other college games to play today. There must be others that you think will not come down to the final possession.

    Sometimes, in the course of almost 35 years of gambling, you cap a game, get a number and you like it...but...there is a nagging little feeling in your gut.  The numbers say its a good solid pick almost every which way.

    But something is not right in Denmark.

    So, 2 or 3 times a year, I bet it with my head but take that dab of insurance.  Similar to blackjack.  You are never supposed to take insurance unless the count is in favor or taking  insurance or you assessment of the deck(s) makes it clear that insurance is the action to take.

    It's just another situational tool.  Use it don't.  Up to you.

    But there is no need to take an event that MIGHT happen 2 or 3 times a year and blow it up into...

    OMFG YOU ARE THE WORST CAPPER, YOU MUST QUIT IMMEDIATELY, START METAL DETECTING ON THE FRICKING BEACH YOU MORON...etc, etc, ad nauseum.

    Just R  E  L  A  X

    Everyone knows its not a play you make every day of the week, month, year...whatever.

    PM for the skinny on the down low
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:



    At the risk of having you talk about me eating turds.....why in the world are you betting a game you think is going to come down to the final possession? That is the exact game you want to avoid. There are 45 other college games to play today. There must be others that you think will not come down to the final possession.

    Sometimes, in the course of almost 35 years of gambling, you cap a game, get a number and you like it...but...there is a nagging little feeling in your gut.  The numbers say its a good solid pick almost every which way.

    But something is not right in Denmark.

    So, 2 or 3 times a year, I bet it with my head but take that dab of insurance.  Similar to blackjack.  You are never supposed to take insurance unless the count is in favor or taking  insurance or you assessment of the deck(s) makes it clear that insurance is the action to take.

    It's just another situational tool.  Use it don't.  Up to you.

    But there is no need to take an event that MIGHT happen 2 or 3 times a year and blow it up into...

    OMFG YOU ARE THE WORST CAPPER, YOU MUST QUIT IMMEDIATELY, START METAL DETECTING ON THE FRICKING BEACH YOU MORON...etc, etc, ad nauseum.

    Just R  E  L  A  X

    Everyone knows its not a play you make every day of the week, month, year...whatever.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 7:16 PM ET #6450

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Michigan State Spartans -1.5 (-110) $1100/$1000. I like Sparty to win this one by two or more. Izzo and company are clutch usually in big 10 tourney

    And there it is folks.


    "I'd like them to win by two or more". On a line of -1.5.

    He doesn't care if he's a half point over, which of course with a missed FT could be a .5 pt under. And he knows this quite well right now.

    The secret to betting a -1.5 pt favorite? Be confident they will win by 7 to 10. Not 2.

    And yet another vigged day thusfar, WLWLWLWLWLWLWL, the vigorish eating away at him like an intestinal parasite.

    He's right. Without the $5.5K bomb he'd down far less.

    But that's not good enough. Not for a pro.

    Most of us here work. What have we made in a month? A lot more than he has so far! And that's even without a 5.5K bet. And it doesn't matter what you do for a living!

    Even if you work at Target as a cashier you are way up on him. And no one, NO ONE, with a job is 'down'. That's why we have jobs.

    You need winners CG and you need to do a better job capping instead of the action junkie capping you are doing now to have a Vegas-esque Friday night.

    Here comes yet another 1-1. You can see it from a billion miles away.1-1 isn't going to work...days pass. Food bills/utilities/gas/rent...all eating away at your life savings.

     

    Like sand in an hour glass, its all slowly fading away.

    Unless you change your ways...

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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Michigan State Spartans -1.5 (-110) $1100/$1000. I like Sparty to win this one by two or more. Izzo and company are clutch usually in big 10 tourney

    And there it is folks.


    "I'd like them to win by two or more". On a line of -1.5.

    He doesn't care if he's a half point over, which of course with a missed FT could be a .5 pt under. And he knows this quite well right now.

    The secret to betting a -1.5 pt favorite? Be confident they will win by 7 to 10. Not 2.

    And yet another vigged day thusfar, WLWLWLWLWLWLWL, the vigorish eating away at him like an intestinal parasite.

    He's right. Without the $5.5K bomb he'd down far less.

    But that's not good enough. Not for a pro.

    Most of us here work. What have we made in a month? A lot more than he has so far! And that's even without a 5.5K bet. And it doesn't matter what you do for a living!

    Even if you work at Target as a cashier you are way up on him. And no one, NO ONE, with a job is 'down'. That's why we have jobs.

    You need winners CG and you need to do a better job capping instead of the action junkie capping you are doing now to have a Vegas-esque Friday night.

    Here comes yet another 1-1. You can see it from a billion miles away.1-1 isn't going to work...days pass. Food bills/utilities/gas/rent...all eating away at your life savings.

     

    Like sand in an hour glass, its all slowly fading away.

    Unless you change your ways...

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