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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:27 PM ET #6376

    I like Purdue myself as well, bought a full point to get it down to -5 (-130) just because I was concerned about it being tight at the end.

    There will just be some games like this.  Part of the variance.  Another reason yet again you should be grinding with $500 bets and no $1k bets right now.

    Bankroll is just too small for $1k bets at this point.  Can't take the variance.

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    I like Purdue myself as well, bought a full point to get it down to -5 (-130) just because I was concerned about it being tight at the end.

    There will just be some games like this.  Part of the variance.  Another reason yet again you should be grinding with $500 bets and no $1k bets right now.

    Bankroll is just too small for $1k bets at this point.  Can't take the variance.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:27 PM ET #6377

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I don't know how you guys bet hoops.

    Coinflip city.


    It's not easy betting hoops I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I don't know how you guys bet hoops.

    Coinflip city.


    It's not easy betting hoops I agree.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:29 PM ET #6378

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    I am so cursed it's unreal. It really is

    How is that cursed?  You bet a 5.5 fav who was losing outright for over 75% of the game.  Cursed would be if it was multiple games you lost on the same day where your team was covering all game then you had MULTIPLE bizarre things happen in the last minute. In each game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    I am so cursed it's unreal. It really is

    How is that cursed?  You bet a 5.5 fav who was losing outright for over 75% of the game.  Cursed would be if it was multiple games you lost on the same day where your team was covering all game then you had MULTIPLE bizarre things happen in the last minute. In each game.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:34 PM ET #6379

    Purdue had no business covering. So to complain about it is just showing you know nothing
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:34 PM ET #6380

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    The spurs game and this. Missed ft's, psu shooting a two down 6 and then can't hit both ft's. Went out of my way to get best line in town at -5.5 and line goes down after I bet. Now what? Win another game and lose another heart breaker? Of course

    CG - I am not going to kick you when you are down.  But it is timely that you post this.

    You lost by a half point when it was posted it was available online at -4.5.

    How many 2,100 swings does it take to make Vegas seem a little less appealing?  You know - you can still live there and use online to get a better number.  No harm in that.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    The spurs game and this. Missed ft's, psu shooting a two down 6 and then can't hit both ft's. Went out of my way to get best line in town at -5.5 and line goes down after I bet. Now what? Win another game and lose another heart breaker? Of course

    CG - I am not going to kick you when you are down.  But it is timely that you post this.

    You lost by a half point when it was posted it was available online at -4.5.

    How many 2,100 swings does it take to make Vegas seem a little less appealing?  You know - you can still live there and use online to get a better number.  No harm in that.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:37 PM ET #6381

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    CG - I am not going to kick you when you are down.  But it is timely that you post this.

    You lost by a half point when it was posted it was available online at -4.5.

    How many 2,100 swings does it take to make Vegas seem a little less appealing?  You know - you can still live there and use online to get a better number.  No harm in that.

     


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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    CG - I am not going to kick you when you are down.  But it is timely that you post this.

    You lost by a half point when it was posted it was available online at -4.5.

    How many 2,100 swings does it take to make Vegas seem a little less appealing?  You know - you can still live there and use online to get a better number.  No harm in that.

     


     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:38 PM ET #6382

    Quote Originally Posted by GLBSports:

    Purdue had no business covering. So to complain about it is just showing you know nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLBSports:

    Purdue had no business covering. So to complain about it is just showing you know nothing

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:46 PM ET #6383

    What is the updated record and profit/loss?
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    What is the updated record and profit/loss?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:48 PM ET #6384

    Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:

    I like Purdue myself as well, bought a full point to get it down to -5 (-130) just because I was concerned about it being tight at the end.

    WHEW!!!!   
    Nice call, you had to really be sweating it out at the end....     I usually just stay away from those hoop wagers that i feel are going to be so close that I probably should be buying a point or two or three..    I'm going to revise my thinking
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    Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:

    I like Purdue myself as well, bought a full point to get it down to -5 (-130) just because I was concerned about it being tight at the end.

    WHEW!!!!   
    Nice call, you had to really be sweating it out at the end....     I usually just stay away from those hoop wagers that i feel are going to be so close that I probably should be buying a point or two or three..    I'm going to revise my thinking
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:49 PM ET #6385

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    CG - I am not going to kick you when you are down.  But it is timely that you post this.

    You lost by a half point when it was posted it was available online at -4.5.

    How many 2,100 swings does it take to make Vegas seem a little less appealing?  You know - you can still live there and use online to get a better number.  No harm in that.

     


    Not the same as getting ready and plopping down a couple of grand in person at a casino where the action is all over......certainly not the same as getting BACK 4 grand on the spot if you win both.  
    Not a crime....he said the lifestyle is important to him....But it does have its drawbacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    CG - I am not going to kick you when you are down.  But it is timely that you post this.

    You lost by a half point when it was posted it was available online at -4.5.

    How many 2,100 swings does it take to make Vegas seem a little less appealing?  You know - you can still live there and use online to get a better number.  No harm in that.

     


    Not the same as getting ready and plopping down a couple of grand in person at a casino where the action is all over......certainly not the same as getting BACK 4 grand on the spot if you win both.  
    Not a crime....he said the lifestyle is important to him....But it does have its drawbacks.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:49 PM ET #6386

    Quote Originally Posted by GLBSports:

    Purdue had no business covering. So to complain about it is just showing you know nothing

    Purdue may or may not have had "no business" covering at the end of the game.  But nobody knew that for sure at the start.

    Unless you and your crystal ball said something to that effect PRIOR to the game starting?

    I think not.

    So just stfu with your beautiful 20/20 post game vision  You are a waste of time and space with this crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLBSports:

    Purdue had no business covering. So to complain about it is just showing you know nothing

    Purdue may or may not have had "no business" covering at the end of the game.  But nobody knew that for sure at the start.

    Unless you and your crystal ball said something to that effect PRIOR to the game starting?

    I think not.

    So just stfu with your beautiful 20/20 post game vision  You are a waste of time and space with this crap.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:54 PM ET #6387

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman67:

    WHEW!!!!   
    Nice call, you had to really be sweating it out at the end....     I usually just stay away from those hoop wagers that i feel are going to be so close that I probably should be buying a point or two or three..    I'm going to revise my thinking

    Your initial instinct of staying away was correct. Buying a basketball point for -130 is absolutely absurd on every level. 

    Sure, it helped in this case but it is a losing proposition long term. An absolute, incredible losing proposition. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman67:

    WHEW!!!!   
    Nice call, you had to really be sweating it out at the end....     I usually just stay away from those hoop wagers that i feel are going to be so close that I probably should be buying a point or two or three..    I'm going to revise my thinking

    Your initial instinct of staying away was correct. Buying a basketball point for -130 is absolutely absurd on every level. 

    Sure, it helped in this case but it is a losing proposition long term. An absolute, incredible losing proposition. 


     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:55 PM ET #6388

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:


    Not the same as getting ready and plopping down a couple of grand in person at a casino where the action is all over......certainly not the same as getting BACK 4 grand on the spot if you win both.  
    Not a crime....he said the lifestyle is important to him....But it does have its drawbacks.


    So the cost of doing business is to lose 2k becasue you want to play in the casino with everyone else? Waiting in line hoping the line doesnt move or the game doesnt start becasue you have a rookie at the window throwing down 5 buck 10 team parlays?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:


    Not the same as getting ready and plopping down a couple of grand in person at a casino where the action is all over......certainly not the same as getting BACK 4 grand on the spot if you win both.  
    Not a crime....he said the lifestyle is important to him....But it does have its drawbacks.


    So the cost of doing business is to lose 2k becasue you want to play in the casino with everyone else? Waiting in line hoping the line doesnt move or the game doesnt start becasue you have a rookie at the window throwing down 5 buck 10 team parlays?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 4:55 PM ET #6389

    whats on tap for tonight bra
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    whats on tap for tonight bra
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:



    So the cost of doing business is to lose 2k becasue you want to play in the casino with everyone else? Waiting in line hoping the line doesnt move or the game doesnt start becasue you have a rookie at the window throwing down 5 buck 10 team parlays?

    I usually agree with Hutch on most things but he's off here. It IS a crime. If you do this for a living "the lifestyle" is a distant, distant factor compared to putting yourself in the best position to get the best line. 

    Well said. 
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    So the cost of doing business is to lose 2k becasue you want to play in the casino with everyone else? Waiting in line hoping the line doesnt move or the game doesnt start becasue you have a rookie at the window throwing down 5 buck 10 team parlays?

    I usually agree with Hutch on most things but he's off here. It IS a crime. If you do this for a living "the lifestyle" is a distant, distant factor compared to putting yourself in the best position to get the best line. 

    Well said. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:


    Your initial instinct of staying away was correct. Buying a basketball point for -130 is absolutely absurd on every level. 

    Sure, it helped in this case but it is a losing proposition long term. An absolute, incredible losing proposition. 


    Yeah - but didn't you read what he said?  He didn't lose this bet.  Therefore, it was worth the -130!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:


    Your initial instinct of staying away was correct. Buying a basketball point for -130 is absolutely absurd on every level. 

    Sure, it helped in this case but it is a losing proposition long term. An absolute, incredible losing proposition. 


    Yeah - but didn't you read what he said?  He didn't lose this bet.  Therefore, it was worth the -130!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 5:02 PM ET #6393

    Rangerz and Vanzack must make at least 10 million a year on sports betting.  How can you ever lose you have the answer to everything. You guys are amazing!!! No matter if its bankroll management or capping or even how to live a lifestyle you have the answer on how it should be done.
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    Rangerz and Vanzack must make at least 10 million a year on sports betting.  How can you ever lose you have the answer to everything. You guys are amazing!!! No matter if its bankroll management or capping or even how to live a lifestyle you have the answer on how it should be done.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yeah - but didn't you read what he said?  He didn't lose this bet.  Therefore, it was worth the -130!



    This time he didnt lose at -130  am sure those -130's dont add up over time
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yeah - but didn't you read what he said?  He didn't lose this bet.  Therefore, it was worth the -130!



    This time he didnt lose at -130  am sure those -130's dont add up over time
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 5:05 PM ET #6395

     
    There now I've used up another one of these emoticons...  Have about 20-25 to go
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    There now I've used up another one of these emoticons...  Have about 20-25 to go
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 5:08 PM ET #6396

    Quote Originally Posted by shipitudonk:

    Rangerz and Vanzack must make at least 10 million a year on sports betting.  How can you ever lose you have the answer to everything. You guys are amazing!!! No matter if its bankroll management or capping or even how to live a lifestyle you have the answer on how it should be done.

    Not 10 million.  But enough to retire on.  And enough to never have a real job again.

    So hey - that's not so bad - and maybe I do have some answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shipitudonk:

    Rangerz and Vanzack must make at least 10 million a year on sports betting.  How can you ever lose you have the answer to everything. You guys are amazing!!! No matter if its bankroll management or capping or even how to live a lifestyle you have the answer on how it should be done.

    Not 10 million.  But enough to retire on.  And enough to never have a real job again.

    So hey - that's not so bad - and maybe I do have some answers.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 5:11 PM ET #6397

    And I can't believe the "curse" word is already made its appearance.  That Spurs game was dirty pool, but you have had some VERY close shaves on plenty of the games you have bet.  

    When it comes to the 7 habits of highly effective people, CG exhibits all but 7 of them.  

    That is one toxic mindset.  
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    And I can't believe the "curse" word is already made its appearance.  That Spurs game was dirty pool, but you have had some VERY close shaves on plenty of the games you have bet.  

    When it comes to the 7 habits of highly effective people, CG exhibits all but 7 of them.  

    That is one toxic mindset.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:



    So the cost of doing business is to lose 2k becasue you want to play in the casino with everyone else? Waiting in line hoping the line doesnt move or the game doesnt start becasue you have a rookie at the window throwing down 5 buck 10 team parlays?

    Yes.
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    So the cost of doing business is to lose 2k becasue you want to play in the casino with everyone else? Waiting in line hoping the line doesnt move or the game doesnt start becasue you have a rookie at the window throwing down 5 buck 10 team parlays?

    Yes.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:


    I usually agree with Hutch on most things but he's off here. It IS a crime. If you do this for a living "the lifestyle" is a distant, distant factor compared to putting yourself in the best position to get the best line. 

    Well said. 

    We're on the same side here.  I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but that is exactly what he is doing....and that's the price he is paying to live and do business his way.  Considering the fix is a very simple one (just bet on line...even if he's in Vegas), I'm assuming that this piece (actually going to the casino, getting a ticket, and cashing them there) is important to him some way.  If not, why would he still be doing it considering all of the money he has already given away?


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    I usually agree with Hutch on most things but he's off here. It IS a crime. If you do this for a living "the lifestyle" is a distant, distant factor compared to putting yourself in the best position to get the best line. 

    Well said. 

    We're on the same side here.  I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but that is exactly what he is doing....and that's the price he is paying to live and do business his way.  Considering the fix is a very simple one (just bet on line...even if he's in Vegas), I'm assuming that this piece (actually going to the casino, getting a ticket, and cashing them there) is important to him some way.  If not, why would he still be doing it considering all of the money he has already given away?


     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILPRATO:

    How can anyone live on 3k in these times?

    I would expect more ambition than that.

    That's basically the poverty line.

    Good Luck


    How can you NOT get by on 3K a month???  That is nowhere near the poverty level.  That is more than 3X the poverty level for a single person.  $17/hr.  What young, single guy with no kids can't get by on that?  That is the problem now:  people living beyond their means and blaming it on lack of income. 
    Certainly you shouldn't be gambling it away.  But if you hit 57% as he claims to have done for so long---then that is just as good as a 401K if managed correctly. 
    Certainly the plan should be to increase income. Maybe it will be tricky to---slowly and patiently---do this without another part-time income.   But it can be done. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILPRATO:

    How can anyone live on 3k in these times?

    I would expect more ambition than that.

    That's basically the poverty line.

    Good Luck


    How can you NOT get by on 3K a month???  That is nowhere near the poverty level.  That is more than 3X the poverty level for a single person.  $17/hr.  What young, single guy with no kids can't get by on that?  That is the problem now:  people living beyond their means and blaming it on lack of income. 
    Certainly you shouldn't be gambling it away.  But if you hit 57% as he claims to have done for so long---then that is just as good as a 401K if managed correctly. 
    Certainly the plan should be to increase income. Maybe it will be tricky to---slowly and patiently---do this without another part-time income.   But it can be done. 
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