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    Ragone15
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:18 AM ET #201

    It just passed the house in a landslide... and the Senate said they approved it as long as the House did.
     
    Hastert just said the bill is on the way to the President's desk.
     
    I just watched Hastert sign the bill with Frist
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    It just passed the house in a landslide... and the Senate said they approved it as long as the House did.
     
    Hastert just said the bill is on the way to the President's desk.
     
    I just watched Hastert sign the bill with Frist
     
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    FUCK THESE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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    FUCK THESE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:20 AM ET #203

    Republican Leaders Reach Port Security Conference Deal ...

    A major maritime security bill will head to the House floor
    tonight with a last-minute provision that would crack down on
    the $12 billion online gambling industry but without other
    controversial additions, such as court security measures and
    protections for phone companies that cooperate with government
    wiretapping, House Homeland Security Chairman King told
    CongressDaily today. King said the text of the conference report
    is done and will be brought to the House floor tonight for a
    vote. House and Senate Republican leaders were trying earlier
    today to attach last-minute measures to the bill. The only one
    that survived was from Senate Majority Leader Frist that would
    crack down on Internet gambling, King said.

    A last second victory for Frist will ban online gambling for good. This will put the banks in charge of stopping payments to sportsbooks, and theoretically places like Neteller as well.
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    Republican Leaders Reach Port Security Conference Deal ...

    A major maritime security bill will head to the House floor
    tonight with a last-minute provision that would crack down on
    the $12 billion online gambling industry but without other
    controversial additions, such as court security measures and
    protections for phone companies that cooperate with government
    wiretapping, House Homeland Security Chairman King told
    CongressDaily today. King said the text of the conference report
    is done and will be brought to the House floor tonight for a
    vote. House and Senate Republican leaders were trying earlier
    today to attach last-minute measures to the bill. The only one
    that survived was from Senate Majority Leader Frist that would
    crack down on Internet gambling, King said.

    A last second victory for Frist will ban online gambling for good. This will put the banks in charge of stopping payments to sportsbooks, and theoretically places like Neteller as well.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:24 AM ET #204

    A last second victory for Frist will ban online gambling for good
     
    my f*ckin ass it will. if i go get a cashiers check from my bank and make it out to Bowmans International how the f*ck are they gonna know what the hell it is for?
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    A last second victory for Frist will ban online gambling for good
     
    my f*ckin ass it will. if i go get a cashiers check from my bank and make it out to Bowmans International how the f*ck are they gonna know what the hell it is for?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:25 AM ET #205

    Quote Originally Posted by july4433:

     
    Let's all give a shout, Vote Republicans out, before they try to take more freedoms from us one little step at a time.  
    Oh I almost forgot, signed: law abiding, taxpaying, angry American, who is now boycotting any and all lotteries ( waste of money anyways, lottery odds are much worse than a one-armed bandit)
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    Quote Originally Posted by july4433:

     
    Let's all give a shout, Vote Republicans out, before they try to take more freedoms from us one little step at a time.  
    Oh I almost forgot, signed: law abiding, taxpaying, angry American, who is now boycotting any and all lotteries ( waste of money anyways, lottery odds are much worse than a one-armed bandit)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:25 AM ET #206

    The President wont sign! No president ever will! I believe that if he does the democratic party will win in a landslide after this and Iraq Bush i have to believe wont
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    The President wont sign! No president ever will! I believe that if he does the democratic party will win in a landslide after this and Iraq Bush i have to believe wont
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:28 AM ET #207

    he'll sign it, i voted for him but hes a fuckin bible thumping douchebag so he will sign it.
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    he'll sign it, i voted for him but hes a fuckin bible thumping douchebag so he will sign it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:30 AM ET #208

    Let's all boycott, all the lotteries, so the states lose billions of dollars every year in funding to give these sorry ass Republican fools something to think about. I mean who the hell really needs to buy a lottery ticket. They need us more than we nered them. Let's start a boycott of lottery tickets, anyone else?
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    Let's all boycott, all the lotteries, so the states lose billions of dollars every year in funding to give these sorry ass Republican fools something to think about. I mean who the hell really needs to buy a lottery ticket. They need us more than we nered them. Let's start a boycott of lottery tickets, anyone else?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:31 AM ET #209

    Quote Originally Posted by kuddish:

    The President wont sign! No president ever will! I believe that if he does the democratic party will win in a landslide after this and Iraq Bush i have to believe wont


    Bro - did you read this thread at all? It got attached to the port fucking security bill. Those fuck faces piggy-backed this fucker into law. It will be signed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuddish:

    The President wont sign! No president ever will! I believe that if he does the democratic party will win in a landslide after this and Iraq Bush i have to believe wont


    Bro - did you read this thread at all? It got attached to the port fucking security bill. Those fuck faces piggy-backed this fucker into law. It will be signed.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:31 AM ET #210

    Quote Originally Posted by kuddish:

    The President wont sign! No president ever will! I believe that if he does the democratic party will win in a landslide after this and Iraq Bush i have to believe wont
    it depends on who is paying him. If he gets enough $$$$, damn straight he will sign. Its all about the $$$$$ in washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuddish:

    The President wont sign! No president ever will! I believe that if he does the democratic party will win in a landslide after this and Iraq Bush i have to believe wont
    it depends on who is paying him. If he gets enough $$$$, damn straight he will sign. Its all about the $$$$$ in washington.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:34 AM ET #211

     
    the proles must overthrow the party.
     
     
    WAR IS PEACE.
     
    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
     
    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
     
     
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    the proles must overthrow the party.
     
     
    WAR IS PEACE.
     
    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
     
    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:36 AM ET #212

    Bush will sign it as fast as he can.
     
    no question about it.
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    Bush will sign it as fast as he can.
     
    no question about it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:36 AM ET #213

    Bush will sign it because he is a bible thumping douchebag, I agree, Let's all boycott the lotteries because of this attack on freedom, so the states willlose billions of dollars every year, that would get the attention of even the Republican bible thumping douchebags. What does anyone else think?
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    Bush will sign it because he is a bible thumping douchebag, I agree, Let's all boycott the lotteries because of this attack on freedom, so the states willlose billions of dollars every year, that would get the attention of even the Republican bible thumping douchebags. What does anyone else think?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:38 AM ET #214

    Bush will be jacking off when he signs this bill and bible thumpers will add one more moral victory to their belts.  Only one voice can now be heard and that will be the voting booth.  Get these motherfuckers out of office.
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    Bush will be jacking off when he signs this bill and bible thumpers will add one more moral victory to their belts.  Only one voice can now be heard and that will be the voting booth.  Get these motherfuckers out of office.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:39 AM ET #215

    guys, lets start discussing ways to get around this.
     
    what about getting a bank account in Canada or Mexico, as a US citizen, and setting it up to where you fund that foreign bank account, that is what your offshore is funded off of, and when you cash out that foreign bank sends you the $$$?
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    guys, lets start discussing ways to get around this.
     
    what about getting a bank account in Canada or Mexico, as a US citizen, and setting it up to where you fund that foreign bank account, that is what your offshore is funded off of, and when you cash out that foreign bank sends you the $$$?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:44 AM ET #216

    i dont see how you cant use a cashiers check...how do they know where its going is a gambling site?
    you mean that the woman at the back typing out the check is gonna give a shit?
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    i dont see how you cant use a cashiers check...how do they know where its going is a gambling site?
    you mean that the woman at the back typing out the check is gonna give a shit?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AQUARIUMDRINKER:

     
    the proles must overthrow the party.
     
     
    WAR IS PEACE.
     
    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
     
    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
     
     
    Let's overthrow the party peacefully this November at the voting booths and just vote the Republicans out of office to save the freedoms that we still have before they take more of our freedoms away. Let's overthrow the Republican party by voting with our wallets. They want to stop gambling, so let's all stop gambling on the lotteries, any thoughts on boycotting the lotteries?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AQUARIUMDRINKER:

     
    the proles must overthrow the party.
     
     
    WAR IS PEACE.
     
    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
     
    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
     
     
    Let's overthrow the party peacefully this November at the voting booths and just vote the Republicans out of office to save the freedoms that we still have before they take more of our freedoms away. Let's overthrow the Republican party by voting with our wallets. They want to stop gambling, so let's all stop gambling on the lotteries, any thoughts on boycotting the lotteries?.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:46 AM ET #218

    i havent bought a lottery ticket in i cant even remember
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    i havent bought a lottery ticket in i cant even remember
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by slc5610:

    guys, lets start discussing ways to get around this.
     
    what about getting a bank account in Canada or Mexico, as a US citizen, and setting it up to where you fund that foreign bank account, that is what your offshore is funded off of, and when you cash out that foreign bank sends you the $$$?
     
    Dude - offshore banking is very tricky.  You cant just open a bank account in another country.
     
    Dont worry.  Wait a couple of weeks.  The bill allows for 270 days even after it is in effect for banks to adhere.  You have plenty of time.  I dont think this will change anything.
     
    As stated - who is stopping you from sending a check to Sam Smith in Antigua?  Cant be stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slc5610:

    guys, lets start discussing ways to get around this.
     
    what about getting a bank account in Canada or Mexico, as a US citizen, and setting it up to where you fund that foreign bank account, that is what your offshore is funded off of, and when you cash out that foreign bank sends you the $$$?
     
    Dude - offshore banking is very tricky.  You cant just open a bank account in another country.
     
    Dont worry.  Wait a couple of weeks.  The bill allows for 270 days even after it is in effect for banks to adhere.  You have plenty of time.  I dont think this will change anything.
     
    As stated - who is stopping you from sending a check to Sam Smith in Antigua?  Cant be stopped.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:50 AM ET #220

        Screw going to a bank for a cashiers check. I'll go to the local Quik Trip gas station and get one. Fed EX baby. So I'll have to wait a couple   days for the payout. So I'll wait. This shit ain't gonna affect me.
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        Screw going to a bank for a cashiers check. I'll go to the local Quik Trip gas station and get one. Fed EX baby. So I'll have to wait a couple   days for the payout. So I'll wait. This shit ain't gonna affect me.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:51 AM ET #221

    What bank's are there in Canada that will let US Citizens open accounts?
     
    What about Mexico?
     
    Here is a list of Canadian based banks.
     
    Canada Banks Headquarters Telephone
    ABN AMRO Bank Toronto ON 416-367-0850
    AgriFinance Winnipeg MB 800-665-0357
    Alberta Treasury Branches Calgary AB 403-541-4064
    ATB Financial Edmonton AB 800-332-8383
    Bank of Canada Ottawa ON 613-782-8936
    Bank of Montreal Toronto ON 800-363-9992
    Business Development Bank of Canada Montreal QC 877-BDC-BANX
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    What bank's are there in Canada that will let US Citizens open accounts?
     
    What about Mexico?
     
    Here is a list of Canadian based banks.
     
    Canada Banks Headquarters Telephone
    ABN AMRO Bank Toronto ON 416-367-0850
    AgriFinance Winnipeg MB 800-665-0357
    Alberta Treasury Branches Calgary AB 403-541-4064
    ATB Financial Edmonton AB 800-332-8383
    Bank of Canada Ottawa ON 613-782-8936
    Bank of Montreal Toronto ON 800-363-9992
    Business Development Bank of Canada Montreal QC 877-BDC-BANX
    Canadian Deposit Insurance Corporation Ottawa ON 613-996-1285
    Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce Toronto ON 416-980-4247
    Canadian Western Bank Edmonton AB 780-423-8888
    Canadian Western Trust Vancouver BC 800-663-1124
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stat Dawg:

        Screw going to a bank for a cashiers check. I'll go to the local Quik Trip gas station and get one. Fed EX baby. So I'll have to wait a couple   days for the payout. So I'll wait. This shit ain't gonna affect me.
     
    5363-

    in lamens terms:

    no person engaged in the business of betting or wagering may knowingly accept in connection the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling:

    1. credit, or the proceeds of credit INCLUDING CREDIT EXTENDED THROUGH CREDIT CARDS

    2. an electronic funds transfer through a money trasnmitting business or the proceeds of an electronic funds transfer (I"m guessing banks and neteller type)

    3. any check, draft or similar instrument and is drawn or payable through ANY financial institution

    4. the proceeds of any other form of financial transaction the secretary and board of governors of the federal reserve system may jointly prescribe ( a catch all for anything new that sprouts up)


    ANY PERSON WHO VIOLATES THIS SHALL BE FINED UNDER TITLE 18, IMPRISONED FOR NOT MORE THAN 5 YEARS OR BOTH


    my take is that it really is going after the books and going to make it near impossible to fund any of them. they are NOT going to go after the average joe for gambling, BUT there probably won't be many places to gamble. good news for sin city and your local books.

    again, there is still 270 days before enactment and hopefully something can be worked out in that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stat Dawg:

        Screw going to a bank for a cashiers check. I'll go to the local Quik Trip gas station and get one. Fed EX baby. So I'll have to wait a couple   days for the payout. So I'll wait. This shit ain't gonna affect me.
     
    5363-

    in lamens terms:

    no person engaged in the business of betting or wagering may knowingly accept in connection the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling:

    1. credit, or the proceeds of credit INCLUDING CREDIT EXTENDED THROUGH CREDIT CARDS

    2. an electronic funds transfer through a money trasnmitting business or the proceeds of an electronic funds transfer (I"m guessing banks and neteller type)

    3. any check, draft or similar instrument and is drawn or payable through ANY financial institution

    4. the proceeds of any other form of financial transaction the secretary and board of governors of the federal reserve system may jointly prescribe ( a catch all for anything new that sprouts up)


    ANY PERSON WHO VIOLATES THIS SHALL BE FINED UNDER TITLE 18, IMPRISONED FOR NOT MORE THAN 5 YEARS OR BOTH


    my take is that it really is going after the books and going to make it near impossible to fund any of them. they are NOT going to go after the average joe for gambling, BUT there probably won't be many places to gamble. good news for sin city and your local books.

    again, there is still 270 days before enactment and hopefully something can be worked out in that time.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:53 AM ET #223

    SLC - it is very complicated.
     
    If you have over 10k in transactions in any given year you have to identify yourself to the IRS or face criminal charges.  Both Mexico and Canada cooperate with US banking laws and the IRS.
     
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    SLC - it is very complicated.
     
    If you have over 10k in transactions in any given year you have to identify yourself to the IRS or face criminal charges.  Both Mexico and Canada cooperate with US banking laws and the IRS.
     
    It aint as easy as they make it sound in the movies - it can be done but it is expensive and complicated.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:54 AM ET #224

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    i dont see how you cant use a cashiers check...how do they know where its going is a gambling site?
    you mean that the woman at the back typing out the check is gonna give a shit?
    There probably will be ways to get around this very first in a series of planned laws, but if the Republicans are voted back into office this November they will just keep passing more restrictive laws with tougher sentences and eventually you will not be able to get around it unless there is a clear and decisive public backlash against these Republicans at the voting booth this November. I did read earlier in this thread where it was wrote there is a 5 year felony charge for cashing out, whatever that means?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    i dont see how you cant use a cashiers check...how do they know where its going is a gambling site?
    you mean that the woman at the back typing out the check is gonna give a shit?
    There probably will be ways to get around this very first in a series of planned laws, but if the Republicans are voted back into office this November they will just keep passing more restrictive laws with tougher sentences and eventually you will not be able to get around it unless there is a clear and decisive public backlash against these Republicans at the voting booth this November. I did read earlier in this thread where it was wrote there is a 5 year felony charge for cashing out, whatever that means?
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:54 AM ET #225

    Say right now, I have $200.00 in my BoDog account. Should I get that out right now and put it back into my bank account or am I safe for the time being? Sorry if this question was already answered within the thread, but I looked through it and didn't see it. 
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    Say right now, I have $200.00 in my BoDog account. Should I get that out right now and put it back into my bank account or am I safe for the time being? Sorry if this question was already answered within the thread, but I looked through it and didn't see it. 
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