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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 10:39 PM ET #176

    VAn what are ypu gona do if all this stuff goes thru ? Just stick with a Local ?
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    VAn what are ypu gona do if all this stuff goes thru ? Just stick with a Local ?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 10:41 PM ET #177

    Quote Originally Posted by throwback559:

    VAn what are ypu gona do if all this stuff goes thru ? Just stick with a Local ?
     
    Hell no.
     
    Have you read this thread?
     
    Why do I care if this passes?  It requires the banks to be on top of this - not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by throwback559:

    VAn what are ypu gona do if all this stuff goes thru ? Just stick with a Local ?
     
    Hell no.
     
    Have you read this thread?
     
    Why do I care if this passes?  It requires the banks to be on top of this - not me.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 10:43 PM ET #178

    master van, this is all predicated on neteller being prevented from doing business with us based customers...definitely not determined yet...
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    master van, this is all predicated on neteller being prevented from doing business with us based customers...definitely not determined yet...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 10:45 PM ET #179

    Quote Originally Posted by hoya100:

    master van, this is all predicated on neteller being prevented from doing business with us based customers...definitely not determined yet...
     
    Masterhoya - if this bill passes in the next hour it will determine that Neteller will have to make a decision on whether to thumb their nose at US business or not.
     
    Omni Bank will not have a choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoya100:

    master van, this is all predicated on neteller being prevented from doing business with us based customers...definitely not determined yet...
     
    Masterhoya - if this bill passes in the next hour it will determine that Neteller will have to make a decision on whether to thumb their nose at US business or not.
     
    Omni Bank will not have a choice.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 10:48 PM ET #180

    i usually pay with cash transfers and am always sending to different names not companies... i guess i am asking how can they stop this....and further more why don't they just leagalize this and legislate it that way.  seriously i know i have paved a couple of roads in my lifetime.
     
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    i usually pay with cash transfers and am always sending to different names not companies... i guess i am asking how can they stop this....and further more why don't they just leagalize this and legislate it that way.  seriously i know i have paved a couple of roads in my lifetime.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 10:50 PM ET #181

    I just read that ~50% of the business that offshore sportsbooks get is from the U.S.

    Could you imagine these books losing over half of their clientele?  Not gonna happen...
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    I just read that ~50% of the business that offshore sportsbooks get is from the U.S.

    Could you imagine these books losing over half of their clientele?  Not gonna happen...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 10:50 PM ET #182

    i like at the end (p244) how they want a study on if there is any money laudering going on. i mean, its possible, but cmon...
     
    those lawyers at NROG need to tell us the english of this shit, i'm getting a headache reading this.
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    i like at the end (p244) how they want a study on if there is any money laudering going on. i mean, its possible, but cmon...
     
    those lawyers at NROG need to tell us the english of this shit, i'm getting a headache reading this.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 10:52 PM ET #183

    which, as you mentioned several times in this thread, allows 270 days of compliance.... in reality most online wagering will continue beyond the bowl games and the superbowl.....
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    which, as you mentioned several times in this thread, allows 270 days of compliance.... in reality most online wagering will continue beyond the bowl games and the superbowl.....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 10:54 PM ET #184

    Quote Originally Posted by the gipper:

    i usually pay with cash transfers and am always sending to different names not companies... i guess i am asking how can they stop this....and further more why don't they just leagalize this and legislate it that way.  seriously i know i have paved a couple of roads in my lifetime.
     


    The reason they won't legalize it is because Fritz needs to appeal to the religious right for when he runs makes his presidential run.  That's all it is.  One Senator with an agenda.  That's the thing that pisses me off.  This fucking guy slipping this gambling section into a defense bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the gipper:

    i usually pay with cash transfers and am always sending to different names not companies... i guess i am asking how can they stop this....and further more why don't they just leagalize this and legislate it that way.  seriously i know i have paved a couple of roads in my lifetime.
     


    The reason they won't legalize it is because Fritz needs to appeal to the religious right for when he runs makes his presidential run.  That's all it is.  One Senator with an agenda.  That's the thing that pisses me off.  This fucking guy slipping this gambling section into a defense bill.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:00 PM ET #185

    Quote Originally Posted by slc5610:

     
    that's not easy for everyone. cant just look in the phone book. I have no idea where any are.
    Your missing the point, the point is that these stupid Republican bastards are just creating one more problem and not really solving anything. There will be a drastic rise in the number of local bookies, so what the hell have they solved? Now, we can use more law enforcement resources to catch new bookieswho will be created by laws like this to take sports bets, and less resources finding, oh say, terrorists that really want to kill Americans or something like that, but the Republican lies and propaganda will say they are keeping you safer, my ass. That is the real point of what I swrote.
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    that's not easy for everyone. cant just look in the phone book. I have no idea where any are.
    Your missing the point, the point is that these stupid Republican bastards are just creating one more problem and not really solving anything. There will be a drastic rise in the number of local bookies, so what the hell have they solved? Now, we can use more law enforcement resources to catch new bookieswho will be created by laws like this to take sports bets, and less resources finding, oh say, terrorists that really want to kill Americans or something like that, but the Republican lies and propaganda will say they are keeping you safer, my ass. That is the real point of what I swrote.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:15 PM ET #186

    Whether this bill passes is not really the point. To take away freedoms, they must be taken away slowly, in little steps passing seemingly almost harmless laws. This is just a first step to tread the water so to speak, by the Neo-Republicans who now run our country to take away freedoms. Freedoms like internet gambling, porn, ect... can not all be taken with wide sweeping tough laws, because enforcement mechinisms must be developed by passing little seemingly harmless laws at first, and by passing a little law like this at first that many Americans will probably get around, let's the Republicans see how the voters will really react in November, If the Republicans are voted out then this bullshit will stop, but if the Republicans are voted back into office in November then they will pass tougher laws with more bite to reduce the freedoms of average American citizens. One little step at a time, that is how you pass laws, see the publics reaction, and develop your enforcement mechanisms. If you want to save freedom in America. Give a Shout, Vote Republicans out.
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    Whether this bill passes is not really the point. To take away freedoms, they must be taken away slowly, in little steps passing seemingly almost harmless laws. This is just a first step to tread the water so to speak, by the Neo-Republicans who now run our country to take away freedoms. Freedoms like internet gambling, porn, ect... can not all be taken with wide sweeping tough laws, because enforcement mechinisms must be developed by passing little seemingly harmless laws at first, and by passing a little law like this at first that many Americans will probably get around, let's the Republicans see how the voters will really react in November, If the Republicans are voted out then this bullshit will stop, but if the Republicans are voted back into office in November then they will pass tougher laws with more bite to reduce the freedoms of average American citizens. One little step at a time, that is how you pass laws, see the publics reaction, and develop your enforcement mechanisms. If you want to save freedom in America. Give a Shout, Vote Republicans out.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:27 PM ET #187

    Quote Originally Posted by losuds63:

    They approved building a 700 mile long fence on the Mexican USA boarder --so answer this --Whos going to cut all those  senaters grass now dumb assholes fucked themselves And again we all wonder, what the hell does this fence have to do with whether or not we  make a responsible wager on a football game while we enjoy the entertainment on our TV? Can someone please tell me why these two laws should be passed on the same bill? Sarcasm, I mean, really, this is bullshit. I think most laws have to be passed in the Senate and in the House before being signed by the President, if I am not mistaken?
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    Quote Originally Posted by losuds63:

    They approved building a 700 mile long fence on the Mexican USA boarder --so answer this --Whos going to cut all those  senaters grass now dumb assholes fucked themselves And again we all wonder, what the hell does this fence have to do with whether or not we  make a responsible wager on a football game while we enjoy the entertainment on our TV? Can someone please tell me why these two laws should be passed on the same bill? Sarcasm, I mean, really, this is bullshit. I think most laws have to be passed in the Senate and in the House before being signed by the President, if I am not mistaken?
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:37 PM ET #188

    these idiots dont realize that by passing this shit they just give more business to the mafia
     
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    these idiots dont realize that by passing this shit they just give more business to the mafia
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:38 PM ET #189

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    these idiots dont realize that by passing this shit they just give more business to the mafia
     
     
    That is exactly what it does.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    these idiots dont realize that by passing this shit they just give more business to the mafia
     
     
    That is exactly what it does.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:39 PM ET #190

    Fed Ex
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:43 PM ET #191

    I have been fuckin the Gov in the ass for 12 years...time to change positions and keep fuckin them hard.
     
    Everybody just chill...where there is a will...there is a way...
     
    They think their gonna stop Gambling...lol's
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    I have been fuckin the Gov in the ass for 12 years...time to change positions and keep fuckin them hard.
     
    Everybody just chill...where there is a will...there is a way...
     
    They think their gonna stop Gambling...lol's
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:45 PM ET #192

    they will never stop it panther, they'll just drive it back to where it was 15 years ago

    to runners and basements in staten island with old men answering the phone hooking you on lines left and right

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    they will never stop it panther, they'll just drive it back to where it was 15 years ago

    to runners and basements in staten island with old men answering the phone hooking you on lines left and right

     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:45 PM ET #193

    No problems where i live with gambling and goverment   We even have a legalized gambling organisation also but their odds are not so good as the bookies tho.
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    No problems where i live with gambling and goverment   We even have a legalized gambling organisation also but their odds are not so good as the bookies tho.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:46 PM ET #194

    or i should rather say a Gambling coorporation that offer gambling on sports.
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    or i should rather say a Gambling coorporation that offer gambling on sports.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:53 PM ET #195

    What cracks me up there is more important things than to cracked down on internet gambling.    But that is the religious right in this country.    Why does not America embrace internet gambling and collect tax dollars off it...  No we are just too stupid for that...  
     
    This is just another example of why our goverment sucks!    No one stands up for the majority of the people.   Let me alone, let me do what I want...
     
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    What cracks me up there is more important things than to cracked down on internet gambling.    But that is the religious right in this country.    Why does not America embrace internet gambling and collect tax dollars off it...  No we are just too stupid for that...  
     
    This is just another example of why our goverment sucks!    No one stands up for the majority of the people.   Let me alone, let me do what I want...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:54 PM ET #196

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    they will never stop it panther, they'll just drive it back to where it was 15 years ago

    to runners and basements in staten island with old men answering the phone hooking you on lines left and right

     
    and then when you call the 1st thursday of the NCAA tourney u get busy signals for 5 straight hours and then finally accept the fact that your guy got pinched and you will have no action for a couple of weeeks
     
    also good when you call and they just read you another phone # to call
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    they will never stop it panther, they'll just drive it back to where it was 15 years ago

    to runners and basements in staten island with old men answering the phone hooking you on lines left and right

     
    and then when you call the 1st thursday of the NCAA tourney u get busy signals for 5 straight hours and then finally accept the fact that your guy got pinched and you will have no action for a couple of weeeks
     
    also good when you call and they just read you another phone # to call
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:55 PM ET #197

    Don't you understand?  If you gamble over the internet, you're obviously a terrorist.  This is just another one of the government's tools to fight terrorism.  If you're sending money to a terrorist organiization fronting as an internet gambling company, they want to know about it. 
     
    Can everyone just please vote these a-holes out in November.  Bill Frist is as corrupt as all of those bastards.
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    Don't you understand?  If you gamble over the internet, you're obviously a terrorist.  This is just another one of the government's tools to fight terrorism.  If you're sending money to a terrorist organiization fronting as an internet gambling company, they want to know about it. 
     
    Can everyone just please vote these a-holes out in November.  Bill Frist is as corrupt as all of those bastards.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 11:58 PM ET #198

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

     
    and then when you call the 1st thursday of the NCAA tourney u get busy signals for 5 straight hours and then finally accept the fact that your guy got pinched and you will have no action for a couple of weeeks
     
    also good when you call and they just read you another phone # to call


    my guy used to be open from 10-2 then 5-7:30 on saturday

    10-2 on sunday then 3:30 to 8

    now my local has a website and i use pinny lines...best of both worlds
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

     
    and then when you call the 1st thursday of the NCAA tourney u get busy signals for 5 straight hours and then finally accept the fact that your guy got pinched and you will have no action for a couple of weeeks
     
    also good when you call and they just read you another phone # to call


    my guy used to be open from 10-2 then 5-7:30 on saturday

    10-2 on sunday then 3:30 to 8

    now my local has a website and i use pinny lines...best of both worlds
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:11 AM ET #199

     
    Let's all give a shout, Vote Republicans out, before they try to take more freedoms from us one little step at a time.  
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    Let's all give a shout, Vote Republicans out, before they try to take more freedoms from us one little step at a time.  
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2006 - 12:14 AM ET #200

    This is a fucking slaughter
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    This is a fucking slaughter
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