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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:18 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    come on guys dont you all know why certain forms of gambling arent part of the bill.  Just stop and use common sense for a minute and you can see right thru these lying scumbags
     
    1. lotteries arent banned because they take in billions of dollars that politicians from each state basically gets to use like their own piggy bank
     
    2. indian casinos arent banned in our country because that is where these politicians get the majority of their kickback money from.  Remember indians dont have to account for their billions they take in.
     
    3. horse racing isnt banned because, this one is a no brainer.  who are the people behind horse racing? the rich power brokers in our country who hang with all the polticians.
     
    so you can see these 3 areas of gambling could never be banned in a billion years.
     
    What is your phucking point you friggin donkey azz.....
     
    Who the hell are you tellin this shit.. NO one here is concerned about your dumb azz indian casinos and racing phucking mules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    come on guys dont you all know why certain forms of gambling arent part of the bill.  Just stop and use common sense for a minute and you can see right thru these lying scumbags
     
    1. lotteries arent banned because they take in billions of dollars that politicians from each state basically gets to use like their own piggy bank
     
    2. indian casinos arent banned in our country because that is where these politicians get the majority of their kickback money from.  Remember indians dont have to account for their billions they take in.
     
    3. horse racing isnt banned because, this one is a no brainer.  who are the people behind horse racing? the rich power brokers in our country who hang with all the polticians.
     
    so you can see these 3 areas of gambling could never be banned in a billion years.
     
    What is your phucking point you friggin donkey azz.....
     
    Who the hell are you tellin this shit.. NO one here is concerned about your dumb azz indian casinos and racing phucking mules.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:19 PM ET #52

    I think i will move to Vegas too....
     
    Or maybe Reno.... (Vegas is much of a party town..)
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    I think i will move to Vegas too....
     
    Or maybe Reno.... (Vegas is much of a party town..)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:20 PM ET #53

    wool worth - do you have any facts to back up what you just said?
     
    please just give one example of how this could happen. just one.
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    wool worth - do you have any facts to back up what you just said?
     
    please just give one example of how this could happen. just one.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:22 PM ET #54

    go back to the penalty box karmarouge, I can't understand why they let you out.

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    go back to the penalty box karmarouge, I can't understand why they let you out.

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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:24 PM ET #55

    so what about canada, looking good still right
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    so what about canada, looking good still right
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:24 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by kerryb:

    wool worth - do you have any facts to back up what you just said?
     
    please just give one example of how this could happen. just one.
     
    Its laughable and impossible.
     
    He hasnt even read the bill.  The bill gives 270 days once it is enacted to even be enforced.
     
    Neteller could decide to not take american business anymore but you will have time.  Neteller is a huge public company - bigger than most banks - they arent going to steal your money. 
    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerryb:

    wool worth - do you have any facts to back up what you just said?
     
    please just give one example of how this could happen. just one.
     
    Its laughable and impossible.
     
    He hasnt even read the bill.  The bill gives 270 days once it is enacted to even be enforced.
     
    Neteller could decide to not take american business anymore but you will have time.  Neteller is a huge public company - bigger than most banks - they arent going to steal your money. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:25 PM ET #57

    Sources close to IGN are reporting that Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist has nearly succeeded in his effort to amend a Port Securities bill with prohibitive Internet gambling legislation. Frist, R-Tenn., has reportedly added provisions introduced by Rep. Jim Leach, R-Iowa, which target U.S.-based banks, credit card companies and other Internet payment systems, prohibiting them from making payments to online gambling companies
     
     
    I dont use NEtteller or any of the listed online payment systems. But i would gather the above language undoubtedly indicates that these companies are specifically being targeted
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    Sources close to IGN are reporting that Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist has nearly succeeded in his effort to amend a Port Securities bill with prohibitive Internet gambling legislation. Frist, R-Tenn., has reportedly added provisions introduced by Rep. Jim Leach, R-Iowa, which target U.S.-based banks, credit card companies and other Internet payment systems, prohibiting them from making payments to online gambling companies
     
     
    I dont use NEtteller or any of the listed online payment systems. But i would gather the above language undoubtedly indicates that these companies are specifically being targeted
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:26 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragone15:

    go back to the penalty box karmarouge, I can't understand why they let you out.

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    go suck and egg you disgusting maggot... Are you bored with Eames you dumb phuck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragone15:

    go back to the penalty box karmarouge, I can't understand why they let you out.

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    go suck and egg you disgusting maggot... Are you bored with Eames you dumb phuck!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:28 PM ET #59

    van - it has gotten to the point here that i just ignore posters right away if they have no clue.
     
    anyhow... is there a copy of the bill anywhere online?
     
    this still has to go thru the motions of being voted on later tonight, is that correct? i want to see which cocksuckers approve this.
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    van - it has gotten to the point here that i just ignore posters right away if they have no clue.
     
    anyhow... is there a copy of the bill anywhere online?
     
    this still has to go thru the motions of being voted on later tonight, is that correct? i want to see which cocksuckers approve this.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:31 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by karmarouge:

     
    go suck and egg you disgusting maggot... Are you bored with Eames you dumb phuck!


    There's only 17 games on the board you should be playing this weekend 
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    Quote Originally Posted by karmarouge:

     
    go suck and egg you disgusting maggot... Are you bored with Eames you dumb phuck!


    There's only 17 games on the board you should be playing this weekend 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:33 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by slc5610:

    guess its time to find a bookie.
    Hey guys, just find a local bookie. There will be a drastic rise in the number of local sports bookies in your area for sure. Still, for Gods' sakes vote out the Republicans this November before it's too late. The Replicans will keep changing the laws to take one freedom away at a time one step at a time from law abiding tax paying American citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slc5610:

    guess its time to find a bookie.
    Hey guys, just find a local bookie. There will be a drastic rise in the number of local sports bookies in your area for sure. Still, for Gods' sakes vote out the Republicans this November before it's too late. The Replicans will keep changing the laws to take one freedom away at a time one step at a time from law abiding tax paying American citizens.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:33 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

     
    And woolworths - you dont understand how the law works and how foreign corporations work with things like jurisdiction.
     
    Please take your nonsense somewhere else - grown ups are talking here.
     
    All it took was holding an exec from one offshore company to cause several sites to stop taking bets from americans. You think if there is a law banning banks from xfering to offshore sites it will not cause neteller to shut down? IT WILL SHUT DOWN OVERNIGHT. The fact neteller is a PUBLIC COMPANY means it is more likely to comply and IN A EXTREMELY TIMELY MANNER WITH THE LAW.
     
    Now if you wanna talk with grownups, then do so. Banks always comply with the law. So do public companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

     
    And woolworths - you dont understand how the law works and how foreign corporations work with things like jurisdiction.
     
    Please take your nonsense somewhere else - grown ups are talking here.
     
    All it took was holding an exec from one offshore company to cause several sites to stop taking bets from americans. You think if there is a law banning banks from xfering to offshore sites it will not cause neteller to shut down? IT WILL SHUT DOWN OVERNIGHT. The fact neteller is a PUBLIC COMPANY means it is more likely to comply and IN A EXTREMELY TIMELY MANNER WITH THE LAW.
     
    Now if you wanna talk with grownups, then do so. Banks always comply with the law. So do public companies.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:35 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragone15:



    There's only 17 games on the board you should be playing this weekend 
     
     
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    There's only 17 games on the board you should be playing this weekend 
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:38 PM ET #64

    hey wool worth, neteller is listed on the london stock exchange dumbass.
     
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    hey wool worth, neteller is listed on the london stock exchange dumbass.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerryb:

    wool worth - do you have any facts to back up what you just said?
     
    please just give one example of how this could happen. just one.
     
    It's pretty simple. Banks follow the law to the letter. There are only a few transaction services. Neteller and a few others. These guys stop taking US transactions and it's gonna make it alot more difficult to fund accounts. I suppose you can go back to sending and receiving cashier's check that take a month to arrive from some island in the carribean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerryb:

    wool worth - do you have any facts to back up what you just said?
     
    please just give one example of how this could happen. just one.
     
    It's pretty simple. Banks follow the law to the letter. There are only a few transaction services. Neteller and a few others. These guys stop taking US transactions and it's gonna make it alot more difficult to fund accounts. I suppose you can go back to sending and receiving cashier's check that take a month to arrive from some island in the carribean.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:42 PM ET #66

    Karmarouge, you jerkoff my point was somebody was asking why politicians werent trying to ban lotteries, horse racing and casinos, so i answered them with the reasons why they werent.
    so shut the fuck up and get back to the penalty box where you belong. Your nothing but a troublemaker
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    Karmarouge, you jerkoff my point was somebody was asking why politicians werent trying to ban lotteries, horse racing and casinos, so i answered them with the reasons why they werent.
    so shut the fuck up and get back to the penalty box where you belong. Your nothing but a troublemaker
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:43 PM ET #67

    Is Neteller located overseas?  If so, why would they care about complying with US jurisdiction?
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    Is Neteller located overseas?  If so, why would they care about complying with US jurisdiction?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:48 PM ET #68

    What makes neteller stop taking transactions from US customers? Does US law govern what a UK based company can do?
     
     
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    What makes neteller stop taking transactions from US customers? Does US law govern what a UK based company can do?
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by $portsAgent:

    Is Neteller located overseas?  If so, why would they care about complying with US jurisdiction?


    Here, I'll answer my own question:

    "Neteller Plc is listed on the London Stock Exchange AIM. Our corporate headquarters are located in Douglas, Isle of Man. Regional offices are locatedin Calgary, Canada: London, England: Macau, China: and San Jose, Costa Rica."

    So, what would be the problem?  I would think you would still be able to put money into a Neteller account.  Then, Neteller probably could care less what you do with their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by $portsAgent:

    Is Neteller located overseas?  If so, why would they care about complying with US jurisdiction?


    Here, I'll answer my own question:

    "Neteller Plc is listed on the London Stock Exchange AIM. Our corporate headquarters are located in Douglas, Isle of Man. Regional offices are locatedin Calgary, Canada: London, England: Macau, China: and San Jose, Costa Rica."

    So, what would be the problem?  I would think you would still be able to put money into a Neteller account.  Then, Neteller probably could care less what you do with their money.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:49 PM ET #70

    Should have said:

    Neteller probably could care less what your do with their money.
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    Should have said:

    Neteller probably could care less what your do with their money.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:50 PM ET #71

    I know that neteller won't take accounts from people of maryland because of some corporate law or some shit like that.
     
     
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    I know that neteller won't take accounts from people of maryland because of some corporate law or some shit like that.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:51 PM ET #72

    FUCKING FRIST IS ON NOW
     
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    FUCKING FRIST IS ON NOW
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:54 PM ET #73

    well, was on for 2 min.
     
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    well, was on for 2 min.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2006 - 8:54 PM ET #74

    You wouldn't be able to do any more EFTs to Neteller. Credit cards are already pretty much banned for gaming transactions already. EFTs engage a US Bank.
     
    I just know big co's, especially public ones from 1st world nations are gonna follow US law regarding US citizens. Until someone kicks our ass and demotes us from world superpower, which quite frankly I wouldn't mind. I miss the soviet union. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
     
    And get this stooge bush out of office.
     
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    Here, I'll answer my own question:

    "Neteller Plc is listed on the London Stock Exchange AIM. Our corporate headquarters are located in Douglas, Isle of Man. Regional offices are locatedin Calgary, Canada: London, England: Macau, China: and San Jose, Costa Rica."

    So, what would be the problem?  I would think you would still be able to put money into a Neteller account.  Then, Neteller probably could care less what you do with their money.
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    You wouldn't be able to do any more EFTs to Neteller. Credit cards are already pretty much banned for gaming transactions already. EFTs engage a US Bank.
     
    I just know big co's, especially public ones from 1st world nations are gonna follow US law regarding US citizens. Until someone kicks our ass and demotes us from world superpower, which quite frankly I wouldn't mind. I miss the soviet union. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
     
    And get this stooge bush out of office.
     
    Quote Originally Posted by $portsAgent:



    Here, I'll answer my own question:

    "Neteller Plc is listed on the London Stock Exchange AIM. Our corporate headquarters are located in Douglas, Isle of Man. Regional offices are locatedin Calgary, Canada: London, England: Macau, China: and San Jose, Costa Rica."

    So, what would be the problem?  I would think you would still be able to put money into a Neteller account.  Then, Neteller probably could care less what you do with their money.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wool_worths:



    Looks like you're right, says right here that Canada has been very forthright complying with our laws if our government puts pressure on them:

    "There are some very good reasons why I am worried about losing my Neteller service. Many people try to soothe my worrying by telling me that the company is located in Canada where as Paypal was in the States which means Neteller is not under U.S. jurisdiction and blah blah blah…. But, what those same people do not know is that Canada has always been very cooperative with its powerful neighbor. Many people are not aware that Maryland residents are NOT allowed to deposit into a Neteller account. This is very alarming in itself. The state of Maryland has convinced a foreign company to restrict its residents from using their services!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by wool_worths:



    Looks like you're right, says right here that Canada has been very forthright complying with our laws if our government puts pressure on them:

    "There are some very good reasons why I am worried about losing my Neteller service. Many people try to soothe my worrying by telling me that the company is located in Canada where as Paypal was in the States which means Neteller is not under U.S. jurisdiction and blah blah blah…. But, what those same people do not know is that Canada has always been very cooperative with its powerful neighbor. Many people are not aware that Maryland residents are NOT allowed to deposit into a Neteller account. This is very alarming in itself. The state of Maryland has convinced a foreign company to restrict its residents from using their services!"
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