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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 8:14 PM ET #201

    Van: Does your wife know that you cap for a living? I know that you've said none of your friends/family know, but the wifey has to know, right? What are her thoughts about it?
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    Van: Does your wife know that you cap for a living? I know that you've said none of your friends/family know, but the wifey has to know, right? What are her thoughts about it?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 8:14 PM ET #202

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Alright - back to work.....

    I promised to be honest in this thread - so here goes.  Do I like you (or the "train" character)?  Nope.

    You consistently post unavailable lines.  You consistently dont explain that you supposedly pay extra to get those lines.  You consistently do anything to get attention, such as thread titles and outrageous statements.  When confronted, you consistently dodge the issue and blow it off - like you do in your question to me - saying "that is just me".

    So no, I dont like what you post.  It goes against what I believe this place is for, and is crystal clear why you do it - for attention.  Can you tell me a reason to post an unattainable line otherwise?  Can you tell me a reason to not explain that you supposedly purchase points, but conveniently dont include those extra costs in your record?  Im not an idiot, and surprisingly neither are a lot of other people here.  They tolerate you, but know what you are up to.

    Is it just a character?  Maybe, who knows.  But the difference between the vanzack yacht going supermodel blowing character and you is that I draw the line at gambling.  I shoot it straight, and feel that if you are posting a pick it is to help people out.  Why do you post picks?  Try to answer that honestly because I cant come to any other answer that doesnt insult my intelligence other than attention.

    There is nobody that gets better lines than you.  There is nobody that could get as good of lines as you - you get the best line possible in every market over the life of the market.  If you could do this, I would hire you.  So the question is - why do you post that?  To stir up shit?  Maybe.  But you could stir up shit in other ways.  You do it because you like others to think you are better at handicapping than you really are.  A phony for no reason.

    I made a couple of posts in your thread about it, but largely leave you alone.  Everyone knows what you are about at this point, it doesnt take me to create a debate with you to shine the light in - it is very bright in there already.

    Thats the truth.  You asked for it.

    Thats pretty much what I thought you would say. Apparently you havent ventured in to the college bball forum where lines move against me daily. You are referring to NFL and college football, when games are "on the market" for a week. You are usually haggling about my picks by a point or the hook. I dont see why its unimaginable that in a weeks time I can find or get a better line than some people. There are dozens of books and lines flucuate heavily from book to book.

    Me not posting that I but the hook or posting my units won helps nobody. I post what I play and I challenge you to find 1 single play that "was never available", either straight or by buyinga hook. I could be 100-1 and down money. I keep coming here year in and year out because this is a hobby and one I am good at. I dont do this for a living, but pay attention to every sport. I dont use a spreadsheet as thats too high school style for me. I like to be entertained and thats where the thread titles come in, they bring out the best and the worst.

    I find it funny you dont bet on NCAA bball as it is one of the easier sports to bet on.

    But, to each his own. People not liking me here is nothing new. Been winning for a long time, and that will put you under the microscope. Now its suddenly "Hey, you must have bought a hoo" or "no way you bet that on sunday when the lines came out".....bunch of crybaby bs. I'll just keep racking up the winners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Alright - back to work.....

    I promised to be honest in this thread - so here goes.  Do I like you (or the "train" character)?  Nope.

    You consistently post unavailable lines.  You consistently dont explain that you supposedly pay extra to get those lines.  You consistently do anything to get attention, such as thread titles and outrageous statements.  When confronted, you consistently dodge the issue and blow it off - like you do in your question to me - saying "that is just me".

    So no, I dont like what you post.  It goes against what I believe this place is for, and is crystal clear why you do it - for attention.  Can you tell me a reason to post an unattainable line otherwise?  Can you tell me a reason to not explain that you supposedly purchase points, but conveniently dont include those extra costs in your record?  Im not an idiot, and surprisingly neither are a lot of other people here.  They tolerate you, but know what you are up to.

    Is it just a character?  Maybe, who knows.  But the difference between the vanzack yacht going supermodel blowing character and you is that I draw the line at gambling.  I shoot it straight, and feel that if you are posting a pick it is to help people out.  Why do you post picks?  Try to answer that honestly because I cant come to any other answer that doesnt insult my intelligence other than attention.

    There is nobody that gets better lines than you.  There is nobody that could get as good of lines as you - you get the best line possible in every market over the life of the market.  If you could do this, I would hire you.  So the question is - why do you post that?  To stir up shit?  Maybe.  But you could stir up shit in other ways.  You do it because you like others to think you are better at handicapping than you really are.  A phony for no reason.

    I made a couple of posts in your thread about it, but largely leave you alone.  Everyone knows what you are about at this point, it doesnt take me to create a debate with you to shine the light in - it is very bright in there already.

    Thats the truth.  You asked for it.

    Thats pretty much what I thought you would say. Apparently you havent ventured in to the college bball forum where lines move against me daily. You are referring to NFL and college football, when games are "on the market" for a week. You are usually haggling about my picks by a point or the hook. I dont see why its unimaginable that in a weeks time I can find or get a better line than some people. There are dozens of books and lines flucuate heavily from book to book.

    Me not posting that I but the hook or posting my units won helps nobody. I post what I play and I challenge you to find 1 single play that "was never available", either straight or by buyinga hook. I could be 100-1 and down money. I keep coming here year in and year out because this is a hobby and one I am good at. I dont do this for a living, but pay attention to every sport. I dont use a spreadsheet as thats too high school style for me. I like to be entertained and thats where the thread titles come in, they bring out the best and the worst.

    I find it funny you dont bet on NCAA bball as it is one of the easier sports to bet on.

    But, to each his own. People not liking me here is nothing new. Been winning for a long time, and that will put you under the microscope. Now its suddenly "Hey, you must have bought a hoo" or "no way you bet that on sunday when the lines came out".....bunch of crybaby bs. I'll just keep racking up the winners.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 8:17 PM ET #203

    On a side note, I cannot believe that more people are not taking advantage of this to pick Vanzack's brain. Not many opportunities that we get to ask a pro these types of questions, we are fools not to take full advantage of this opportunity.


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    On a side note, I cannot believe that more people are not taking advantage of this to pick Vanzack's brain. Not many opportunities that we get to ask a pro these types of questions, we are fools not to take full advantage of this opportunity.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 8:27 PM ET #204

    Van thanks for the response and thread about cards.

    What about horse racing. Ever get involved in my favorite vice.

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    Van thanks for the response and thread about cards.

    What about horse racing. Ever get involved in my favorite vice.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 8:33 PM ET #205

    vanzack, how do you bet? I know about the baseball flat betting, but, like TCU for you. You really liked it so did you bet 10x normal wager?
    I loved purdue yesterday. Made a big bet for me(300 since this thread is about honesty) but i really wanted to do pound it up to 8.chickened out.
    what would make you pull the trigger on a huge play?
    Also for basball do you use pitch counts to make a play?  Meaning if david cone throws 3 straight games of 120, and he's a usual heavy favorite.
    Good stuff here Vanzack thanks for the insight
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    vanzack, how do you bet? I know about the baseball flat betting, but, like TCU for you. You really liked it so did you bet 10x normal wager?
    I loved purdue yesterday. Made a big bet for me(300 since this thread is about honesty) but i really wanted to do pound it up to 8.chickened out.
    what would make you pull the trigger on a huge play?
    Also for basball do you use pitch counts to make a play?  Meaning if david cone throws 3 straight games of 120, and he's a usual heavy favorite.
    Good stuff here Vanzack thanks for the insight
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 8:35 PM ET #206

    Just as in every other thread, Train69 is living up to his name and acting like a douchebag everywhere he posts.

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    Just as in every other thread, Train69 is living up to his name and acting like a douchebag everywhere he posts.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 8:40 PM ET #207

    P.S my girlfriend is brazilian and if we are still together in 2014 i will see you in brazil. I've had alot of offers to stay etc. long time away but if i go we will meet up. Be a great time!
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    P.S my girlfriend is brazilian and if we are still together in 2014 i will see you in brazil. I've had alot of offers to stay etc. long time away but if i go we will meet up. Be a great time!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 8:46 PM ET #208

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    On a side note, I cannot believe that more people are not taking advantage of this to pick Vanzack's brain. Not many opportunities that we get to ask a pro these types of questions, we are fools not to take full advantage of this opportunity.
    that's for sure.
      I need to get around the bad -110 juice. Is this possible in the states? Do i have to go to Canada and get a P.O. box so i can bet at pinnacle? Or the islands? How do i do this? It's freakin thievery.
    How do you do your taxes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    On a side note, I cannot believe that more people are not taking advantage of this to pick Vanzack's brain. Not many opportunities that we get to ask a pro these types of questions, we are fools not to take full advantage of this opportunity.
    that's for sure.
      I need to get around the bad -110 juice. Is this possible in the states? Do i have to go to Canada and get a P.O. box so i can bet at pinnacle? Or the islands? How do i do this? It's freakin thievery.
    How do you do your taxes?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 9:05 PM ET #209

    Do you like walks on the beach?
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    Do you like walks on the beach?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 9:20 PM ET #210

    Van, I implore you, rejuvenate yourself with the original numb chucks skinny warrior avatar.  So much promise. The naivety screams that he cannot be beat, so innocent and yet so powerful.  The gambling GODS TAKE MERCY ON  THIS INNOCENT SOUL and PROTECT HIS SUBTLE SINCERITY. 

    It is a vortex which begins spinning towards perpetual prosperity.  You will play the fool NOT TO FOLLOW.  It is your destiny.  And your fortune.  I see many pools of money in the rivers downstream.  The original numb chucks is a gold mine.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Van, I implore you, rejuvenate yourself with the original numb chucks skinny warrior avatar.  So much promise. The naivety screams that he cannot be beat, so innocent and yet so powerful.  The gambling GODS TAKE MERCY ON  THIS INNOCENT SOUL and PROTECT HIS SUBTLE SINCERITY. 

    It is a vortex which begins spinning towards perpetual prosperity.  You will play the fool NOT TO FOLLOW.  It is your destiny.  And your fortune.  I see many pools of money in the rivers downstream.  The original numb chucks is a gold mine.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 9:24 PM ET #211

    FUCK I just got here!  Should I go back and read the thread?  I don't want to miss anything.


    What a genius idea.  Vanzack have you really traveled the Caspian Sea with the Swedish swimsuit team?
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    FUCK I just got here!  Should I go back and read the thread?  I don't want to miss anything.


    What a genius idea.  Vanzack have you really traveled the Caspian Sea with the Swedish swimsuit team?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 9:25 PM ET #212

    Ooooh do me next.  What do you think of your boy Spit-one-five?
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    Ooooh do me next.  What do you think of your boy Spit-one-five?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 9:26 PM ET #213

    damn,,,,good thread

    i highly suggest a smoke session followed by a read of the whole thread............. 

     

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    damn,,,,good thread

    i highly suggest a smoke session followed by a read of the whole thread............. 

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 9:47 PM ET #214

    BTW,,,,,van is one of those Nation guys,,,stop the hate,,,,,,,hitting over 75% for extended periods of time were a good period 2-3 years ago,,,,,,The Box at its finest, I'd say..............

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    BTW,,,,,van is one of those Nation guys,,,stop the hate,,,,,,,hitting over 75% for extended periods of time were a good period 2-3 years ago,,,,,,The Box at its finest, I'd say..............

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurshka:

    Van thanks for the response and thread about cards.

    What about horse racing. Ever get involved in my favorite vice.




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    Van thanks for the response and thread about cards.

    What about horse racing. Ever get involved in my favorite vice.




     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 10:05 PM ET #216

    We have a DAMN good thread going...  Please keep all the "small" talk out of it.. 

    Keep up the good work  
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    We have a DAMN good thread going...  Please keep all the "small" talk out of it.. 

    Keep up the good work  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 10:10 PM ET #217

    Do you play golf?

    What's your stance on betting run lines in baseball, be it +1.5 or 1.5?
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    Do you play golf?

    What's your stance on betting run lines in baseball, be it +1.5 or 1.5?
     
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    *-1.5 obviously
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 10:11 PM ET #219

    Do you inspect your poop after you take a shit?


    What kind of hummus is best, aside from red pepper?  I can't find ANY hummus that I like, because I keep getting the wrong flavors.  Red pepper is okay, then I got garlic and it was fucking awful, I hate garlic, no idea why I bought it... so I got 'greek style' which is just fucking garlic!


    Do you pick your nose?


    Will you please PM me if you're ever coming to Pittsburgh?  There would be nothing better in my life than meeting you and getting you to smoke a very tiny bit of weed with me.  If I get cancer ( crossing my fingers), and somehow turn 8 years old, that will me my make-a-wish wish.
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    What kind of hummus is best, aside from red pepper?  I can't find ANY hummus that I like, because I keep getting the wrong flavors.  Red pepper is okay, then I got garlic and it was fucking awful, I hate garlic, no idea why I bought it... so I got 'greek style' which is just fucking garlic!


    Do you pick your nose?


    Will you please PM me if you're ever coming to Pittsburgh?  There would be nothing better in my life than meeting you and getting you to smoke a very tiny bit of weed with me.  If I get cancer ( crossing my fingers), and somehow turn 8 years old, that will me my make-a-wish wish.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 10:12 PM ET #220

    Will you try watching some NHL playoff hockey this year?
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 10:12 PM ET #221

    If you could change one thing at COVERS, what would it be...  On the flip side,  name the one thing you may have said or done on COVERS that you would take back..  If any ???


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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 10:14 PM ET #222

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Thats pretty much what I thought you would say. Apparently you havent ventured in to the college bball forum where lines move against me daily. You are referring to NFL and college football, when games are "on the market" for a week. You are usually haggling about my picks by a point or the hook. I dont see why its unimaginable that in a weeks time I can find or get a better line than some people. There are dozens of books and lines flucuate heavily from book to book.

    Me not posting that I but the hook or posting my units won helps nobody. I post what I play and I challenge you to find 1 single play that "was never available", either straight or by buyinga hook. I could be 100-1 and down money. I keep coming here year in and year out because this is a hobby and one I am good at. I dont do this for a living, but pay attention to every sport. I dont use a spreadsheet as thats too high school style for me. I like to be entertained and thats where the thread titles come in, they bring out the best and the worst.

    I find it funny you dont bet on NCAA bball as it is one of the easier sports to bet on.

    But, to each his own. People not liking me here is nothing new. Been winning for a long time, and that will put you under the microscope. Now its suddenly "Hey, you must have bought a hoo" or "no way you bet that on sunday when the lines came out".....bunch of crybaby bs. I'll just keep racking up the winners.

    Look - dont ask a question you dont want to know the answer to.  I find it funny that out of all of the questions asked in this thread, you asked a question ABOUT YOURSELF.  It is very telling.

    You have yet to answer my questions.  I asked several direct questions,and you avoided them.  There is no reason to post lines that are unattainable, or ignore that you bought points, only to post your record later and brag aobut it - other than attention.  Please tell me where I go wrong with this.

    Either way, its no problem.  Keep doing what you do.  But you arent fooling anyone.  Dont you see in this thread alone how many people see you for what you are but dont want to debate you?  Let it go.  You need attention.  There are worse things in the world to be.

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    Thats pretty much what I thought you would say. Apparently you havent ventured in to the college bball forum where lines move against me daily. You are referring to NFL and college football, when games are "on the market" for a week. You are usually haggling about my picks by a point or the hook. I dont see why its unimaginable that in a weeks time I can find or get a better line than some people. There are dozens of books and lines flucuate heavily from book to book.

    Me not posting that I but the hook or posting my units won helps nobody. I post what I play and I challenge you to find 1 single play that "was never available", either straight or by buyinga hook. I could be 100-1 and down money. I keep coming here year in and year out because this is a hobby and one I am good at. I dont do this for a living, but pay attention to every sport. I dont use a spreadsheet as thats too high school style for me. I like to be entertained and thats where the thread titles come in, they bring out the best and the worst.

    I find it funny you dont bet on NCAA bball as it is one of the easier sports to bet on.

    But, to each his own. People not liking me here is nothing new. Been winning for a long time, and that will put you under the microscope. Now its suddenly "Hey, you must have bought a hoo" or "no way you bet that on sunday when the lines came out".....bunch of crybaby bs. I'll just keep racking up the winners.

    Look - dont ask a question you dont want to know the answer to.  I find it funny that out of all of the questions asked in this thread, you asked a question ABOUT YOURSELF.  It is very telling.

    You have yet to answer my questions.  I asked several direct questions,and you avoided them.  There is no reason to post lines that are unattainable, or ignore that you bought points, only to post your record later and brag aobut it - other than attention.  Please tell me where I go wrong with this.

    Either way, its no problem.  Keep doing what you do.  But you arent fooling anyone.  Dont you see in this thread alone how many people see you for what you are but dont want to debate you?  Let it go.  You need attention.  There are worse things in the world to be.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 10:16 PM ET #223

    Question,,,,,,I am getting that Matchbook may be able to transfer in certain circumstances,,,,any word to you?,,,,I will not like to have a "marked or recording" kind of credit coming into my account,,,,,,,,
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    Question,,,,,,I am getting that Matchbook may be able to transfer in certain circumstances,,,,any word to you?,,,,I will not like to have a "marked or recording" kind of credit coming into my account,,,,,,,,
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 10:17 PM ET #224

    Quote Originally Posted by superbeets:

    If you could change one thing at COVERS, what would it be...  On the flip side,  name the one thing you may have said or done on COVERS that you would take back..  If any ???




    Both sides... asking to be first on the "hotseat"... might be his answer.


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    If you could change one thing at COVERS, what would it be...  On the flip side,  name the one thing you may have said or done on COVERS that you would take back..  If any ???




    Both sides... asking to be first on the "hotseat"... might be his answer.


     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2011 - 10:17 PM ET #225

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

     Originally Posted by kaponofor3 Further questions:

    1. Ever meet anyone from covers in real life? If so, who and what were the circumstances
    ?

    I have never met a single person from covers ever.  Im not against it, but it has never been the right circumstances.

    2. Where is your favorite place (hotel) to stay in Vegas?

    I havent been to Vegas since about 2005.  I stayed at the Wynn, nice place.  Im pretty sure I am going to get out there to check out the M casino because of everything I hear about their sportsbook and live betting.

    3. Please tell the story of getting kicked out of a large US bank for the weird Carribean square check.

    I had a couple of accounts at a large well known bank.  The large square check from Pinnacle was just the last straw in a series of mis-steps I had because of inexperience.  I was transferring in and out from neteller dozens of 5K ins and outs every week (I think 5k was the max they would allow at the time in one transaction) - and I didnt even try to hide it.  It would just be 5k, 5k, 5k, 5k 5k rapid fire every day.  I made the mistake of believing because it was legal, that the bank would welcome it.  Wrong.

    So I got the check from Pinnacle (BTW, how many people can say they got a check from Pinnacle pre 2007?  Probably very few).  It was square, and looked like a coupon your would use at a supermarket.  I was cocky (afterall, it was totally legal, and I wasnt hiding anything) so I marched up and tried to deposit it - like it was a check from my neighbor or something.  They had a conference of tellers behind the glass, and since they had never seen anything like it - they called over the mgr who proceeded to tell me that they were worried about my acct activity and that I should call a VP of the bank that she gave me a card.  

    (as Im writing this, I took a flyer and did a search on my comp and realized I still have a scan of this check.  It is drawn on Maduros and Curiels Bank - yes that is the real name - and signed by Maduro and Curiel themselves!!)

    So anyway, I dont call the bank, but I get a certified letter about 3 days letter telling me to pack up my shit and get out.  It was not nice.  This was my first experience with this - it has happened to me once since - so I was a little panicky.  I called my lawyer at the time and he told me something like (put on a sopranos accent) "Look.  They dont like you.  Who the fuck cares.  You didnt break any laws, but if your local sub shop didnt like you, you might not be eating turkey sandwiches any time soon.  Go get another sub shop."  That was all I needed to hear.

    4. How many books do you post up with online? Ever go for the riskier ones or been there, done that?

    I have never posted up at a risky book, not even one penny.  It is against my DNA.  5 years ago, I had about 20 books.  Today - it pains me to type this - I have 3.  Pinnacle, MB, and Betfair - and honestly - I dont know if I still have MB (but can get it if I want I think).  I seriously might be on an extended break after soccer ends.

    5. Was there any single event that made you go "you know what? I could probably do this for a living and be successful?"

    Yes.  I remember the moment.  Sitting in an endless corporate douchebag meeting, I just had enough.  The light went on.  I had enough put away to live on comfortably for at least 3 years, so I took a chance.  I wish I was as smart gamblingwise 10 years ago as I am today because I could have made a lot more money and avoided some costly mistakes - but such is life.  I consider myself to be very fortunate, and understand the luck it has taken to get to where I am.


    If you are down to Pinny and Betfair, capping at 55% will certainly require some precise timing. Probably not bad for MLB but a tough go outside of that card. Tight lines and fast moves.

    It is an awfully tough climate for those in the continental US right now. 

    You mention that you may take a break. Why not diversify? Do you not trust the climate to obtain more outs. I imagine you may have been limited at some.

    I am at a time where I am considering putting more into this endeavor as my work career winds down. I am not tied to the US betting landscape. This thread has been very informative for me. Thanks for your input.

    What payment methods do you trust and give us an overview of the direction of that process is going?

    Thanks again for all you have done for the posting community over the years
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     Originally Posted by kaponofor3 Further questions:

    1. Ever meet anyone from covers in real life? If so, who and what were the circumstances
    ?

    I have never met a single person from covers ever.  Im not against it, but it has never been the right circumstances.

    2. Where is your favorite place (hotel) to stay in Vegas?

    I havent been to Vegas since about 2005.  I stayed at the Wynn, nice place.  Im pretty sure I am going to get out there to check out the M casino because of everything I hear about their sportsbook and live betting.

    3. Please tell the story of getting kicked out of a large US bank for the weird Carribean square check.

    I had a couple of accounts at a large well known bank.  The large square check from Pinnacle was just the last straw in a series of mis-steps I had because of inexperience.  I was transferring in and out from neteller dozens of 5K ins and outs every week (I think 5k was the max they would allow at the time in one transaction) - and I didnt even try to hide it.  It would just be 5k, 5k, 5k, 5k 5k rapid fire every day.  I made the mistake of believing because it was legal, that the bank would welcome it.  Wrong.

    So I got the check from Pinnacle (BTW, how many people can say they got a check from Pinnacle pre 2007?  Probably very few).  It was square, and looked like a coupon your would use at a supermarket.  I was cocky (afterall, it was totally legal, and I wasnt hiding anything) so I marched up and tried to deposit it - like it was a check from my neighbor or something.  They had a conference of tellers behind the glass, and since they had never seen anything like it - they called over the mgr who proceeded to tell me that they were worried about my acct activity and that I should call a VP of the bank that she gave me a card.  

    (as Im writing this, I took a flyer and did a search on my comp and realized I still have a scan of this check.  It is drawn on Maduros and Curiels Bank - yes that is the real name - and signed by Maduro and Curiel themselves!!)

    So anyway, I dont call the bank, but I get a certified letter about 3 days letter telling me to pack up my shit and get out.  It was not nice.  This was my first experience with this - it has happened to me once since - so I was a little panicky.  I called my lawyer at the time and he told me something like (put on a sopranos accent) "Look.  They dont like you.  Who the fuck cares.  You didnt break any laws, but if your local sub shop didnt like you, you might not be eating turkey sandwiches any time soon.  Go get another sub shop."  That was all I needed to hear.

    4. How many books do you post up with online? Ever go for the riskier ones or been there, done that?

    I have never posted up at a risky book, not even one penny.  It is against my DNA.  5 years ago, I had about 20 books.  Today - it pains me to type this - I have 3.  Pinnacle, MB, and Betfair - and honestly - I dont know if I still have MB (but can get it if I want I think).  I seriously might be on an extended break after soccer ends.

    5. Was there any single event that made you go "you know what? I could probably do this for a living and be successful?"

    Yes.  I remember the moment.  Sitting in an endless corporate douchebag meeting, I just had enough.  The light went on.  I had enough put away to live on comfortably for at least 3 years, so I took a chance.  I wish I was as smart gamblingwise 10 years ago as I am today because I could have made a lot more money and avoided some costly mistakes - but such is life.  I consider myself to be very fortunate, and understand the luck it has taken to get to where I am.


    If you are down to Pinny and Betfair, capping at 55% will certainly require some precise timing. Probably not bad for MLB but a tough go outside of that card. Tight lines and fast moves.

    It is an awfully tough climate for those in the continental US right now. 

    You mention that you may take a break. Why not diversify? Do you not trust the climate to obtain more outs. I imagine you may have been limited at some.

    I am at a time where I am considering putting more into this endeavor as my work career winds down. I am not tied to the US betting landscape. This thread has been very informative for me. Thanks for your input.

    What payment methods do you trust and give us an overview of the direction of that process is going?

    Thanks again for all you have done for the posting community over the years
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