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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 3:08 AM ET #251

    One last thing, and Prez this comment is not direct towards you since I understand that you have no effect on how the picks are recorded. But with that being said, he went 0-4 tonight and only ONE of the picks are shown on the last 10 list...

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    You can guarantee if he went 4-0, they would be listed...
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    One last thing, and Prez this comment is not direct towards you since I understand that you have no effect on how the picks are recorded. But with that being said, he went 0-4 tonight and only ONE of the picks are shown on the last 10 list...

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    You can guarantee if he went 4-0, they would be listed...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 4:07 AM ET #252

    Whats the adjusted line for hitting 60-64%?
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 8:34 AM ET #254

    Quote Originally Posted by FlippaCoin:

    I'm just answering someone's question about the Last 10 picks and how they line up.  My main concern is that some of these cappers DO NOT post ALL of their picks (obviously it would be the picks that end up losing)  which at the end of the day makes their winning percentages look higher than it should be.  Again, I have a subscription with Ted, and I don't like to see these guys falsely promote themselves, would you???

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlippaCoin:

    I'm just answering someone's question about the Last 10 picks and how they line up.  My main concern is that some of these cappers DO NOT post ALL of their picks (obviously it would be the picks that end up losing)  which at the end of the day makes their winning percentages look higher than it should be.  Again, I have a subscription with Ted, and I don't like to see these guys falsely promote themselves, would you???

     

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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 11:20 AM ET #255

      Mama said there'd be days like these.  For those who pay for Teddy or Prez's picks, how'd you do in January?  Just wondering. 
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      Mama said there'd be days like these.  For those who pay for Teddy or Prez's picks, how'd you do in January?  Just wondering. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 11:40 AM ET #256

    Quote Originally Posted by theprez:

    im not going to use this thread to get into a convo about buying picks - its about the radio show and the bet - we have started bad - my god we are on day 2 guys - seriously - you will have your chance to get upset if we actually suck over the 50 days - but im now going to stay out of these threads as I do not want to see this stuff day to day

    Ilovekim - different story - you bought my picks and i sucked crap tonight - but man im up huge units since i joined covers long term - since january 1st short term - this stuff happens - everyone knows it - its gambling - im not immune - i dont claim 60% records - i win steady money for my customers - 9 out of 10 times you buy a month from me you win - but now im starting to sound like a salesmen and fuck that - i don't want to go there - i just want to use this to promote the radio show.

    I will find out about the opening song tomorrow - i don't know.




    So "now you will stay out of these threads"  That is REALLY lame.

    If you and ted were 4-0 would you be " staying out of these threads"?

    If you start running good something tells me you will have time to post.  Very Very Lame.

    PS If you can not stand the heat after 2 days you are in the wrong business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theprez:

    im not going to use this thread to get into a convo about buying picks - its about the radio show and the bet - we have started bad - my god we are on day 2 guys - seriously - you will have your chance to get upset if we actually suck over the 50 days - but im now going to stay out of these threads as I do not want to see this stuff day to day

    Ilovekim - different story - you bought my picks and i sucked crap tonight - but man im up huge units since i joined covers long term - since january 1st short term - this stuff happens - everyone knows it - its gambling - im not immune - i dont claim 60% records - i win steady money for my customers - 9 out of 10 times you buy a month from me you win - but now im starting to sound like a salesmen and fuck that - i don't want to go there - i just want to use this to promote the radio show.

    I will find out about the opening song tomorrow - i don't know.




    So "now you will stay out of these threads"  That is REALLY lame.

    If you and ted were 4-0 would you be " staying out of these threads"?

    If you start running good something tells me you will have time to post.  Very Very Lame.

    PS If you can not stand the heat after 2 days you are in the wrong business.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 11:55 AM ET #257

    We are getting a little panicked early here. These guys may win and may lose over the 50 days. There is only one GUARANTEE here. The guarantee is these guys will work very very hard to win for you guys, and in effect themselves over these 2 months. It takes guts for them to do this, it is a gamble for sure and as bettors we should respect that.  A really bad 50 days will dramatically hurt their business yet they are still taking the risk. Kudos to both of them for stepping up in this public forum.  

         If you buy their picks and lose. stop paying and move to the next expert or handicap yourself. If they win for you keep buying the picks plain and simple. NO ONE buys picks unless they have lost on their own already. We know sports betting is very tough, especially this time of year so lets just give these guys some air and see what happens over 10-20 days MINIMUM.

    That being said I will reiterate what I said before. Ted and Prez should be in here win or lose taking accolades or taking heat. You can not only pop in when the sun is shining. Good luck I hope you make the covers fans a ton of money these 50 days.
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    We are getting a little panicked early here. These guys may win and may lose over the 50 days. There is only one GUARANTEE here. The guarantee is these guys will work very very hard to win for you guys, and in effect themselves over these 2 months. It takes guts for them to do this, it is a gamble for sure and as bettors we should respect that.  A really bad 50 days will dramatically hurt their business yet they are still taking the risk. Kudos to both of them for stepping up in this public forum.  

         If you buy their picks and lose. stop paying and move to the next expert or handicap yourself. If they win for you keep buying the picks plain and simple. NO ONE buys picks unless they have lost on their own already. We know sports betting is very tough, especially this time of year so lets just give these guys some air and see what happens over 10-20 days MINIMUM.

    That being said I will reiterate what I said before. Ted and Prez should be in here win or lose taking accolades or taking heat. You can not only pop in when the sun is shining. Good luck I hope you make the covers fans a ton of money these 50 days.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 12:27 PM ET #258

    guy goes 0- 4 and they only list 1 of the loses in his last 10
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 12:50 PM ET #259

    Well put NFLNightmares - this is a risk for us but we really want to promote the radio show - Teddy and I have been doing the show for 1 year now and it isn't highly promoted by the Covers staff - so we decided to take matter into our own hands and do something big.
     
    Your Kudos is appreciated and you are the 2nd guy to actually get it. With that said - we have been capping for a long long time and we will not be judged overall by 50 plays. The goal here is to do our best - but when push comes to show - we MUST win for our paying customers and we must promote the show. Remember we release more than 1 play good sir to our clients.
     
    CUBSIN - please get it right man - if you are going to piss on me get your facts right - my 4 crappy losers are all up for everyone to see.
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    Well put NFLNightmares - this is a risk for us but we really want to promote the radio show - Teddy and I have been doing the show for 1 year now and it isn't highly promoted by the Covers staff - so we decided to take matter into our own hands and do something big.
     
    Your Kudos is appreciated and you are the 2nd guy to actually get it. With that said - we have been capping for a long long time and we will not be judged overall by 50 plays. The goal here is to do our best - but when push comes to show - we MUST win for our paying customers and we must promote the show. Remember we release more than 1 play good sir to our clients.
     
    CUBSIN - please get it right man - if you are going to piss on me get your facts right - my 4 crappy losers are all up for everyone to see.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 12:57 PM ET #260

    These guys are horrible don't waste your time even listening to the show. First 2 days 1 winner 3 losers. You could flip a coin and do better.
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    These guys are horrible don't waste your time even listening to the show. First 2 days 1 winner 3 losers. You could flip a coin and do better.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 1:36 PM ET #261

    My take...

    If you can not handicap the games. Do not bet.

    No one is going to get wealthy buying picks from someone who claims to be good. Ever met anyone who has?? 

    No disrespect intended to the Prez and his buddy. 

    You should challenge yourself and see if you can pick games.

    It is much more rewarding when you have a hunch, and make a nice wager on it and it wins for you.... This way you can not blame anyone for losing. 

    If you find that you can not pick games one other option is to find someone on the forums that is good, someone like BBOOKIE

     when I say good I mean you see his posts and follow him for  a few weeks to see if he wins more than he loses.. Once you are sure this person has skill. go with him and see how things go.

     If I were a superstar handicapper I would live in LAS VEGAS and make myself Rich. I would not need to sell my picks to make money. It is that simple to me but think what you like.
    I tried it once in High School. The guy was a fraud.

    GL folks. - Remember to play these games straight up. 
    NO PARAYS - NO TEASERS 
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    My take...

    If you can not handicap the games. Do not bet.

    No one is going to get wealthy buying picks from someone who claims to be good. Ever met anyone who has?? 

    No disrespect intended to the Prez and his buddy. 

    You should challenge yourself and see if you can pick games.

    It is much more rewarding when you have a hunch, and make a nice wager on it and it wins for you.... This way you can not blame anyone for losing. 

    If you find that you can not pick games one other option is to find someone on the forums that is good, someone like BBOOKIE

     when I say good I mean you see his posts and follow him for  a few weeks to see if he wins more than he loses.. Once you are sure this person has skill. go with him and see how things go.

     If I were a superstar handicapper I would live in LAS VEGAS and make myself Rich. I would not need to sell my picks to make money. It is that simple to me but think what you like.
    I tried it once in High School. The guy was a fraud.

    GL folks. - Remember to play these games straight up. 
    NO PARAYS - NO TEASERS 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 1:43 PM ET #262

    I think that McAlpine brought up some very good points. The more picks that are given out you put yourself up against the 50-50 factor based on law of averages.  That is why if you look at guys like Big East Expert and Kindergardencapper they are more selective in their choices and have good percentages. The one additional thing that this contest will be good for is open exposure now to the covers experts and their plus or minus work. With 25 g's put up the choices we have seen and will see are the top picks by each capper so 50 days should be a somewhat fair barometer of their good or bad overall.
     
    I think bashing is the wrong tactic here as this should be used as an opportunity to observe as this wide open competition puts things on the line without having to listen to the "on fire", "incredible run" (thanks for that one Tim T), "seeing it well" and other catch phrases the industry likes to use. 
     
    I for one like it and would like to see more of open competition on the site like this as it brings out the emotion that you need to draw more attention to what is going on.
     
     
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    I think that McAlpine brought up some very good points. The more picks that are given out you put yourself up against the 50-50 factor based on law of averages.  That is why if you look at guys like Big East Expert and Kindergardencapper they are more selective in their choices and have good percentages. The one additional thing that this contest will be good for is open exposure now to the covers experts and their plus or minus work. With 25 g's put up the choices we have seen and will see are the top picks by each capper so 50 days should be a somewhat fair barometer of their good or bad overall.
     
    I think bashing is the wrong tactic here as this should be used as an opportunity to observe as this wide open competition puts things on the line without having to listen to the "on fire", "incredible run" (thanks for that one Tim T), "seeing it well" and other catch phrases the industry likes to use. 
     
    I for one like it and would like to see more of open competition on the site like this as it brings out the emotion that you need to draw more attention to what is going on.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 1:48 PM ET #263

    Quote Originally Posted by Annunaki:

      Mama said there'd be days like these.  For those who pay for Teddy or Prez's picks, how'd you do in January?  Just wondering. 

    Not good for January.  I have two subscriptions running concurrently.  One is with Ted the other is a group I don't think needs to be mentioned at this point.  The reason for two cappers is so that if one should become cold the other would at least hold up to help break it even for that day.  Imagine both cappers getting COLD on you.  Bankroll out the window.  I have 8 to 9 days remaining on one of them, and 5 days on the other. I don't really plan to touch any of their picks with a ten foot pole. absolutely not. 

    Case in point....two days ago, between the two of them, it was 0-4.  money down the drain.

     

    Iw1nBets   Thank you. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annunaki:

      Mama said there'd be days like these.  For those who pay for Teddy or Prez's picks, how'd you do in January?  Just wondering. 

    Not good for January.  I have two subscriptions running concurrently.  One is with Ted the other is a group I don't think needs to be mentioned at this point.  The reason for two cappers is so that if one should become cold the other would at least hold up to help break it even for that day.  Imagine both cappers getting COLD on you.  Bankroll out the window.  I have 8 to 9 days remaining on one of them, and 5 days on the other. I don't really plan to touch any of their picks with a ten foot pole. absolutely not. 

    Case in point....two days ago, between the two of them, it was 0-4.  money down the drain.

     

    Iw1nBets   Thank you. 

     
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    Buying picks isn't for everyone, and there's a reason for that. Most people aren't in it for the long haul. A couple of losing nights and they're out. There's no get rich quick scheme when it comes to sports betting, but if you're in it for long-term profits, I'm willing to bet these pros get it done. It is their job after all. If they couldn't, they wouldn't still be in business. At least that's the way I see it. Obviously guys like the Prez and Teddy are making some of their customers happy or they wouldn't still be selling. My two cents.
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    Buying picks isn't for everyone, and there's a reason for that. Most people aren't in it for the long haul. A couple of losing nights and they're out. There's no get rich quick scheme when it comes to sports betting, but if you're in it for long-term profits, I'm willing to bet these pros get it done. It is their job after all. If they couldn't, they wouldn't still be in business. At least that's the way I see it. Obviously guys like the Prez and Teddy are making some of their customers happy or they wouldn't still be selling. My two cents.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 3:10 PM ET #265

    LOL prezzz (listen to the show and you'll know why I typed his name like that) ranting about the people on the forum on todays show...

    "angry" people are after him!!!!

    loser.


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    LOL prezzz (listen to the show and you'll know why I typed his name like that) ranting about the people on the forum on todays show...

    "angry" people are after him!!!!

    loser.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 3:17 PM ET #266

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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 3:29 PM ET #267

    luck whoops - murphs - well said - same Mr S - tpt1 - i was just having fun with some of the guys who have come onto this thread (a thread that was about a radio show and a bet) and just attacked me for no reason. I'm a big man - i can take all this heat but I'm going to dish a bit too.

    Guys the song yesterday that started the show was Ironman - lots of you asked.

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    luck whoops - murphs - well said - same Mr S - tpt1 - i was just having fun with some of the guys who have come onto this thread (a thread that was about a radio show and a bet) and just attacked me for no reason. I'm a big man - i can take all this heat but I'm going to dish a bit too.

    Guys the song yesterday that started the show was Ironman - lots of you asked.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 3:35 PM ET #268

    Gold - you wrote - If I were a superstar handicapper I would live in LAS VEGAS and make myself Rich. I would not need to sell my picks to make money. It is that simple to me but think what you like

    that is such a tired boring argument - guys have been saying that over and over again for 30 years - can you imagine how great someone must be to graduate highschool or University with no-money - move to vegas at the start of their business life and then become a pro-better - how would you gamble, pay for rent - eat - drink etc - don't you think you might need a job - where would the 1st bet come from - lets say you start with a 100,000 bankroll - which is a joke (no-one has that after university - but lets pretend) - if you double your money a year - which is incredible - my god can you imagine 100% return on investment year in year out - that would be guiness like - but lets pretend you double your money – so you start with 100k and by the end you have 200k – wrong – you have to eat pay rent and bills – lets say you need 5k a month to live – you have to take that out right off the bat – so now your 100k over 12 months is about 80k doubled – as it progressively gets smaller with you taking your bills out. So now you have doubled 80k to 160k – but taken 5k out a month to live – that brings you right back to 100k – your original investment – now get married have kids and take your expenses up to 10k a month – now you are left with 60k from your original 100k – then do that again and you are out of money even though you are winning your bets.

    In order to be a bettor who lives off his wins and losses (lives properly – not hand-mouth) – you would have needed to do start with a monster bankroll – at least $300,000 using the math above – where do you get that – if anyone has any advice let me know – I’m thinking you handicap and sell your hard work over 20 years – build a nice bankroll and then retire and bet like a degenerate till you die. And that my friend is what I plan on doing.

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    Gold - you wrote - If I were a superstar handicapper I would live in LAS VEGAS and make myself Rich. I would not need to sell my picks to make money. It is that simple to me but think what you like

    that is such a tired boring argument - guys have been saying that over and over again for 30 years - can you imagine how great someone must be to graduate highschool or University with no-money - move to vegas at the start of their business life and then become a pro-better - how would you gamble, pay for rent - eat - drink etc - don't you think you might need a job - where would the 1st bet come from - lets say you start with a 100,000 bankroll - which is a joke (no-one has that after university - but lets pretend) - if you double your money a year - which is incredible - my god can you imagine 100% return on investment year in year out - that would be guiness like - but lets pretend you double your money – so you start with 100k and by the end you have 200k – wrong – you have to eat pay rent and bills – lets say you need 5k a month to live – you have to take that out right off the bat – so now your 100k over 12 months is about 80k doubled – as it progressively gets smaller with you taking your bills out. So now you have doubled 80k to 160k – but taken 5k out a month to live – that brings you right back to 100k – your original investment – now get married have kids and take your expenses up to 10k a month – now you are left with 60k from your original 100k – then do that again and you are out of money even though you are winning your bets.

    In order to be a bettor who lives off his wins and losses (lives properly – not hand-mouth) – you would have needed to do start with a monster bankroll – at least $300,000 using the math above – where do you get that – if anyone has any advice let me know – I’m thinking you handicap and sell your hard work over 20 years – build a nice bankroll and then retire and bet like a degenerate till you die. And that my friend is what I plan on doing.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 4:25 PM ET #269

    Does anyone have the picks for today's show?  I can't get the radio to work.

    Thanks!
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    Does anyone have the picks for today's show?  I can't get the radio to work.

    Thanks!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 4:34 PM ET #270

    The picks are:

    Prez: Over 140 NC Wilmington @ William & Mary
    Teddy: St. Bonaventure +14 @ URI
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    The picks are:

    Prez: Over 140 NC Wilmington @ William & Mary
    Teddy: St. Bonaventure +14 @ URI
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 5:15 PM ET #271

    Quote Originally Posted by theprez:

    AMMO ill look into the thread issue asap - we have to post them here - its public and other folks will - so its all good
     
    I sucked tonight - god willing we get a miracle in ok st - but aint going to happen

    Dont worry about it prez......there is a place on the Free Picks home page where they are updating the plays.  as far as the link.....it is my computer that kicks me out and cant hear teh whole show.  i have a computer guru coming to fix my issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theprez:

    AMMO ill look into the thread issue asap - we have to post them here - its public and other folks will - so its all good
     
    I sucked tonight - god willing we get a miracle in ok st - but aint going to happen

    Dont worry about it prez......there is a place on the Free Picks home page where they are updating the plays.  as far as the link.....it is my computer that kicks me out and cant hear teh whole show.  i have a computer guru coming to fix my issues.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 5:18 PM ET #272

    So everyone should take the under and lay the points with URI?
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    So everyone should take the under and lay the points with URI?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 6:00 PM ET #273

    what are there records so far in this competition?
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    what are there records so far in this competition?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 6:37 PM ET #274

    Quote Originally Posted by theprez:

    Gold - you wrote - If I were a superstar handicapper I would live in LAS VEGAS and make myself Rich. I would not need to sell my picks to make money. It is that simple to me but think what you like

    that is such a tired boring argument - guys have been saying that over and over again for 30 years - 



     Prez, my brotha - thanks for responding, I appreciate the time.

    Maybe I would not live in Vegas . As its not needed if you have the online book thing going. A fast story- 3 years ago I was at the palace station. I saw some guy come out of the booth where the bets are made and within 1 minute - 5 people were surrounding him

    Caught my eye so I come over to their table. From the looks of these guys - they were locals- degenerates to the core. 

    so they huddle around a table and this casino guy says here are my 5 plays for NCAA hoops. I wrote them all down and bet 100 on each of them;. he went 5-0 and I have never been  more impressed.

    I left vegas and should have gotten his name and email address
    He had inside info from the casino and he had the edge.

     But yes Prez, you are right about that statement being said time in- and time out - ive seen it here on this thread a few times - but I just feel that most of those people that have a service are full of BS 

    I want to think that it was as easy as signing up for a service and then all of your dreams come true but I have yet to see anyone take that road and become Rich.. I am sure you can pick games.

    My point to the people here is - trust yourself. and be weary of folks who make big claims of being great handicappers. 

    If you hit 80 percent say- which is rare. You would be busy hiring people for your gambling as you would or could be banned from casinos if you win like that. I would be your runner and you would tell me what picks to bet for you.  But to think you would waste time doing a service when your main concern is getting your bets in.
    Well, why would you sell picks - thats my point. - most of these folks are not any better than me in picking games.


    GL to you Prez and thanks for taking the time to respond


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    Quote Originally Posted by theprez:

    Gold - you wrote - If I were a superstar handicapper I would live in LAS VEGAS and make myself Rich. I would not need to sell my picks to make money. It is that simple to me but think what you like

    that is such a tired boring argument - guys have been saying that over and over again for 30 years - 



     Prez, my brotha - thanks for responding, I appreciate the time.

    Maybe I would not live in Vegas . As its not needed if you have the online book thing going. A fast story- 3 years ago I was at the palace station. I saw some guy come out of the booth where the bets are made and within 1 minute - 5 people were surrounding him

    Caught my eye so I come over to their table. From the looks of these guys - they were locals- degenerates to the core. 

    so they huddle around a table and this casino guy says here are my 5 plays for NCAA hoops. I wrote them all down and bet 100 on each of them;. he went 5-0 and I have never been  more impressed.

    I left vegas and should have gotten his name and email address
    He had inside info from the casino and he had the edge.

     But yes Prez, you are right about that statement being said time in- and time out - ive seen it here on this thread a few times - but I just feel that most of those people that have a service are full of BS 

    I want to think that it was as easy as signing up for a service and then all of your dreams come true but I have yet to see anyone take that road and become Rich.. I am sure you can pick games.

    My point to the people here is - trust yourself. and be weary of folks who make big claims of being great handicappers. 

    If you hit 80 percent say- which is rare. You would be busy hiring people for your gambling as you would or could be banned from casinos if you win like that. I would be your runner and you would tell me what picks to bet for you.  But to think you would waste time doing a service when your main concern is getting your bets in.
    Well, why would you sell picks - thats my point. - most of these folks are not any better than me in picking games.


    GL to you Prez and thanks for taking the time to respond


     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 8:19 PM ET #275

    haha big deal goldrush. you met a guy in vegas three years ago who went 5-0. wonder what he did the next day and the day after. gambling is a sprint and a marathon. better to win the marathon.
     
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    haha big deal goldrush. you met a guy in vegas three years ago who went 5-0. wonder what he did the next day and the day after. gambling is a sprint and a marathon. better to win the marathon.
     
    good luck prez and the other dude
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