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I guess Kubot v. Janowicz was the Wimbledon fixer's dream come true then.


 
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And Lisicki v. Radwanska was the ratings behemoth!!!!


 
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Quote Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW:

It was funny, because did u see the 3rd set? Murray was not even troubled in any ways, he won the games easily despite Verdasco being the guy that delivered the best tennis in the first 2 sets, but all of a sudden, Verdasco played horrible right out of the blue? 


Yeah, because players down 2-0 never ever ever come back to win.



Murray is historically a better player the deeper he goes into matches.  Tennis is a mental and emotional game as much as physical.  Being down 2-0, all the pressure is on Verdasco and Murray will give it all up as he has nothing more to lose.

Verdasco is thinking in the 3rd Set to play it safe as I have two to give and he gets pummeled.

Then the crowd gets back into it and the rout is on.

When Verdasco won the Second Set, the Live Betting was Murray -235.

If this was fixed, as you say, -235 is a garbage line to get.  The books weren't fooled, the announcers were calling on a Murray fightback, the crowd knew as well.

So did Verdasco.  And he collapsed.

Remember, Murray was a MASSIVE favorite to win. -1500.  Down two sets or not, he is still the massive favorite.  It was a three set game then and he needed to sweep all three sets, which he was expected to do from the beginning anyway.

Events are fixed, but you pointed out one that was not.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

Of course it was

This is a show people 


All we are is watching a show , the better the show , the better the ratings 


It's already been proven in court 
You're right it is a show, and that's exactly why Murray will win this time, cause it's getting awfully boring with this machine, they call The Joker>  Book Murray to win the tourney, it's a done deal. That last Verdasco match is just to throw everybody off. I backed him before the tourney started at +135, and I'm adding more at +160......Enjoy, then scratch your heads and say "what happened" it's a no brainer boys
 
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Quote Originally Posted by charlielo55:

You're right it is a show, and that's exactly why Murray will win this time, cause it's getting awfully boring with this machine, they call The Joker>  Book Murray to win the tourney, it's a done deal. That last Verdasco match is just to throw everybody off. I backed him before the tourney started at +135, and I'm adding more at +160......Enjoy, then scratch your heads and say "what happened" it's a no brainer boys


You are right.  If this is fixed, then Murray wins.

Let's wait and see. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:



Yeah, because players down 2-0 never ever ever come back to win.



Murray is historically a better player the deeper he goes into matches.  Tennis is a mental and emotional game as much as physical.  Being down 2-0, all the pressure is on Verdasco and Murray will give it all up as he has nothing more to lose.

Verdasco is thinking in the 3rd Set to play it safe as I have two to give and he gets pummeled.

Then the crowd gets back into it and the rout is on.

When Verdasco won the Second Set, the Live Betting was Murray -235.

If this was fixed, as you say, -235 is a garbage line to get.  The books weren't fooled, the announcers were calling on a Murray fightback, the crowd knew as well.

So did Verdasco.  And he collapsed.

Remember, Murray was a MASSIVE favorite to win. -1500.  Down two sets or not, he is still the massive favorite.  It was a three set game then and he needed to sweep all three sets, which he was expected to do from the beginning anyway.

Events are fixed, but you pointed out one that was not.

-235? HAHAHA did u even watch this game? It was even odds at the start of second game @ -110 and then it went to +100 and then it went to +110 and peaked at +120. Ure such a moron for stating that garbage. 
 
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I love reading ur incoherent rambling, seriously, im laughing at u. 


All pressure on Verdasco? 
How can all pressure be on the guy being the +1000 dog? There is ZERO pressure on. Absolute ZERO. Even being up 2 sets there is no pressure on him, as everyone expects Murray to win. So ofc he is not playing it safe or anything. The match was absolute even odds-wise after 2nd set so there is no real pressure on either side, that would have to be murray tho
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW:


-235? HAHAHA did u even watch this game? It was even odds at the start of second game @ -110 and then it went to +100 and then it went to +110 and peaked at +120. Ure such a moron for stating that garbage. 


-235 @ Bet365.

I was watching the Kubot match and the announcers asked what the odds would be if Murray broke Verdasco in the 3rd Set.  The announcer guessed Evens.

So I looked it up.

It was -235.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW:


-235? HAHAHA did u even watch this game? It was even odds at the start of second game @ -110 and then it went to +100 and then it went to +110 and peaked at +120. Ure such a moron for stating that garbage. 


Also, let's say it was Even Odds.

How is that rigged?

It's a 50/50 coin flip!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

yes Verdasco lost on purpose, just wanted to push it 5 sets to the very end and take a chance that Murray screw up even though Verdasco was throwing it on purpose.



the fact that this went in 5 sets is the difference between a succesfull wimbledon for Murray and an unsuccesful one. If he had won in 3 sets it would be just like expected and it would just increase expectation, but now that he came back being down 2-0 in sets he can say "Ohh i managed to do something nadal and fedex didnt" and thats very nice to be able to do that for him, this match pretty much saved his wimbledon when he loses in the final. When Murray makes it to the finals, he will make a lot of $$$ by being there, and he can still be happy coz he can blame the fact that he lost in the finals on his injury and everything. Murray will always be #2, he is happy with that as long as he makes it to the finals and gets a high prize pool. Also endorsements will be increased for Murray when he appears on the screen in final after final, if he wins it or not. 

Because, Djoko appears as long on the TV as Murray does, so it doesnt really matter when it comes to endorsements who wins or not. So Murray can be happy with so many things after this wimbledon. COmming back down 2-0 - Amazing, nadal and fedex didnt achieve that. Made it to the final? Amazing, nadal and fedex didnt manage to do that. Grabbed a set from Djoko? (Which i think he will) Amazing, nadal and fedex didnt achieve that, and probably no other than Murray will! So this Wimbledon is a huge huge huge success already, and it will be even huge if he manages to get into the final despite the fact that he will lose 100%
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:



Also, let's say it was Even Odds.

How is that rigged?

It's a 50/50 coin flip!

Yeah ODDS-WISE not match wise u fool. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW:

I love reading ur incoherent rambling, seriously, im laughing at u. 


All pressure on Verdasco? 
How can all pressure be on the guy being the +1000 dog? There is ZERO pressure on. Absolute ZERO. Even being up 2 sets there is no pressure on him, as everyone expects Murray to win. So ofc he is not playing it safe or anything. The match was absolute even odds-wise after 2nd set so there is no real pressure on either side, that would have to be murray tho


Thanks for proving my point.

A 10-1 dog up two sets to nil..........ALL THE PRESSURE IS ON HIM TO CLOSE OUT.

If you had to hit 100 straight three pointers in basketball to make a million dollars, there is really no pressure on you because you figure this isn't going to happen.

But then you hit 98 straight.

HOW DO YOU THINK YOU WILL FEEL GOING FOR #99?



Pressure like you've never felt.

So get out of here with there was no pressure on Verdasco.  Especially in front of a pro-Murray crowd and people not believing he could finish.

Did you see the way he MELTED DOWN in that match?  Throwing the ball, getting angry, etc.

That. Is. Pressure.   Stress.

And still waiting for you to give proof of a fix in this match. 
 
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but yeah joker will probably win but still....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:



-235 @ Bet365.

I was watching the Kubot match and the announcers asked what the odds would be if Murray broke Verdasco in the 3rd Set.  The announcer guessed Evens.

So I looked it up.

It was -235.



Murray was @ +105 on Bet365. My friend pounded him at that price. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

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This guy calls fix YET OFFERS ZERO PROOF.

And his original reasoning is because 2-0 down for Murray would offer higher TV ratings.

Uh-boy...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW:


Yeah ODDS-WISE not match wise u fool. 


Huh?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


Murray was @ +105 on Bet365. My friend pounded him at that price. 


That was after Murray broke Verdasco in the Third Set.  Whenever the Kubot announcers asked what the price was. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:



Thanks for proving my point.

A 10-1 dog up two sets to nil..........ALL THE PRESSURE IS ON HIM TO CLOSE OUT.

If you had to hit 100 straight three pointers in basketball to make a million dollars, there is really no pressure on you because you figure this isn't going to happen.

But then you hit 98 straight.

HOW DO YOU THINK YOU WILL FEEL GOING FOR #99?



Pressure like you've never felt.

So get out of here with there was no pressure on Verdasco.  Especially in front of a pro-Murray crowd and people not believing he could finish.

Did you see the way he MELTED DOWN in that match?  Throwing the ball, getting angry, etc.

That. Is. Pressure.   Stress.

And still waiting for you to give proof of a fix in this match. 

Lol, the example with basketball is so stupid. But lets take that example then. Lets say Murray had to hit 30 out of 100 - 3 pointers, how much pressure would he feel when he misses the first 65 shots and has to hit 30 out of the last 35?  thats how he would feel. All pressure on him. -1500 favorite in this game on HOME COURT on TELEVISION down 2-0 is friggin scary as darn to dissapoint the crowd like that. Verdasco couldnt care less and no pressure on him, if he lost 6-0 6-0 6-0 it wouldnt even be that bad, taking 2 sets is an absolute amazing result and he could go into this match with absolute zero pressure. He wasnt even mad after the game about the fact he had just lost and dropped 3 sets, he didnt seem to care. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:



This guy calls fix YET OFFERS ZERO PROOF.

And his original reasoning is because 2-0 down for Murray would offer higher TV ratings.

Uh-boy...

No ffs. Getting Murray through to next round creates higher ratings. He had to win. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:



That was after Murray broke Verdasco in the Third Set.  Whenever the Kubot announcers asked what the price was. 

Why are u saying the price after him being up the break? im talking about after 2nd set, not half way into the 3rd set 
 
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 i lost a lot of brain cells reading this. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW:


Lol, the example with basketball is so stupid. But lets take that example then. Lets say Murray had to hit 30 out of 100 - 3 pointers, how much pressure would he feel when he misses the first 65 shots and has to hit 30 out of the last 35?  thats how he would feel. All pressure on him. -1500 favorite in this game on HOME COURT on TELEVISION down 2-0 is friggin scary as darn to dissapoint the crowd like that. Verdasco couldnt care less and no pressure on him, if he lost 6-0 6-0 6-0 it wouldnt even be that bad, taking 2 sets is an absolute amazing result and he could go into this match with absolute zero pressure. He wasnt even mad after the game about the fact he had just lost and dropped 3 sets, he didnt seem to care. 


You obviously don't understand stress in sports.  Any one with a brain can understand the basketball example.  And you obviously didn't see Verdasco imploding UNDER OBVIOUS STRESS AND PRESSURE.

Yeah, no pressure on Verdasco.  He didn't want to win.  He was happy being up 2-0 as you said.  Good enough for him.  Even if he lost he could say, well, I was up 2-0 and I am happy with that.  I mean, I was a 10-1 underdog and I won two sets, so I am happy with that!  COME ON MAN!

STILL WAITING FOR YOU PROOF OF A FIX. 

Kubot v. Janowicz.  WOW!  Fixed for ratings!  HAHAHA!

Lisicki v. Radwanska!  What a ratings champion!  HAHAHA!

Bartoli v. Flipkens!  Whoa!  The ratings fixers really did it this time!  HAHAHAHA!



So, let's make your next post the proof of the fix.  Can you do it?
 
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Posted: #49
Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

 i lost a lot of brain cells reading this. 


Like arguing with a teenager.  Young guy, no doubt.  FTW, LOL, etc.
 
 
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Posted: #50
Quote Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW:


No ffs. Getting Murray through to next round creates higher ratings. He had to win. 


So why did Verdasco win the first two sets?

That creates too much attention on a possible fix with Murray coming back.


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