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WTF?!?! PLEASE HELP! Juan Ignacio Chela is only -180 vs a Futures/Challenger Pospisil?!?!?!

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oh, my bad it's tommorrow..
 
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it's now -210 at bodog.
 
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-160 Chela....
 
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JUSTIFY THIS LINE!

It's not on clay, Chela sucks when he's not on clay

Posposil looks to be handy on hard courts (albeit at a much lower level)
 
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Bodog opened at -210 & never moved. Another book I watched opened @ -180 & wiggled down 10 cents, now -175.

If you say Chela sucks on Hard, then you would say Albert Montanes SUCKS ON CLAY ALSO.

Chela bats a hair over .500 while Montanes for .540 on CLAY.

People call Montanes a "clay-court specialist" as if it gives him an advantage or something. Well from you saying Chela sucks on Hard, you mean to say Chela is a Hard-courter also.

Yes I understand he has a good record on clay, but doesn't mean he sucks on hard.
 
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If you say Chela sucks on Hard, then you would say Albert Montanes SUCKS ON CLAY ALSO.

How so? All the Spaniards love clay 

Chela plays so many more clay tourneys to inflate his ranking, definitely wouldn't be around 20's if he played a lot more hard court tourneys.

That said, I wouldn't back a guy who's played hardly any ATP Tour level matches still
 
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IMO, the word specialist has more to do with the percentage of matches played on the surface rather than win/loss percentage

Chela plays close to 70% of his matches on clay, and generally goes out first or second round when he does play hard courts...as a rule, I don't bet against players in their home country especially against someone that won't be on their favored surface
 
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IMO, that's exactly what the term should mean, but people tag Montanes with that label as if he is an elite player on clay.

This can be said two ways:

Chela Sucks on Hard AS Montanes Sucks on Clay

OR Chela is Good on Hard & Great on clay AS Montanes is Good on Clay.

Which is it?
 
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Call my crazy but I think the young canadian is worthy of a small play.
 
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Alright man - Here is what I have found. 

Chelas last 10 matches have been 8 on clay 2 on grass. 5 wins to 5 losses.

Pospisils last 10 matches have been 8 on hard 2 on clay. 6 wins 4 losses.

The biggest difference I have seen is in 2011 Chela is 2 and 4 on hard courts while Pospi is 36 and 12.  It appears that Pospi is on his "best" court while Chela is on his "worst" by standings of 2011. 

Based off of the "court" traditions and the fact that Pospis form is climbing, I believe he would be worth a sprinkle versus laying the juice on Chela.  That or staying away imo.  BOL whatever you decide.
 
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Tad, don't forget Pospisil's record is split between only 2 matches at the World Tour level, and split the rest between the Challenger Tour & ITF Futures. He's not playing ANYBODY remotely close to Chela's level of play.
 
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Here is how Pospisil is even ranked at #155:

CH = Challenger events, F = Futures events, S = Semis, Q = Quarter Finals, W = Winner

All his tournament wins are in ITF Futures events.

He tried to qualify for Wimbledon beating a #270 and then losing in the 2nd round of the qualifying to a #145. 

Round  Points  Drop Date
01.08.2011 Vancouver CH     S      35      06.08.2012
25.04.2011 Leon CH             S      29      30.04.2012
14.03.2011 Rimouski CH       S      29      19.03.2012
25.07.2011 Canada F4         W      27      06.08.2012
23.05.2011 Korea F2            W      27      04.06.2012
27.09.2010 Canada F5         W      27      10.10.2011
20.06.2011 Guadalajara CH   Q      18      02.07.2012
09.05.2011 Busan CH           Q      18      14.05.2012
11.04.2011 Tallahassee CH   Q      18      16.04.2012
06.09.2010 Mexico F7          W      18      19.09.2011
30.08.2010 Mexico F6          W      18      12.09.2011
11.07.2011 Granby CH          Q      17      16.07.2012
24.01.2011 Honolulu CH        Q      15      30.01.2012
11.10.2010 Tashkent CH      R16    15      17.10.2011
18.10.2010 Seoul CH           R16    10      24.10.2011
13.06.2011 Wimbledon Q      Q2      8      02.07.2012
16.05.2011 Korea F1             S       8      04.06.2012
27.06.2011 Winnetka CH      R16     7      02.07.2012

 
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Pospisil has 344 points in his 18 Countable Tournaments.  No points from the World Tour.

Chela has 1,510 points for a ranking of #22.

He has more points in this ONE event compared to Pospisil's 18 Countable Tournament points:

22.05.2011    Roland Garros     Q    360     04.06.2012

 
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My book is at Chela -165
Make today great!
 
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what is Chela's current ranking?  He's had a crappy year.

I took Chela, but he does suck and could definitely lose this match.


 
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#22
 
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Looking at ranking is pointless when Chela gets the majority of his points from the clay season
 
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i remember u making a post similar to this during college basketball...

TEXAS V KANSAS

...it was very similar to this one and WE ALL KNOW how that turned out
 
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there is your explanation...the final score as an ultimate explanation
 
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Quote Originally Posted by FR3SH-like-UgHH:

i remember u making a post similar to this during college basketball...

TEXAS V KANSAS

...it was very similar to this one and WE ALL KNOW how that turned out

I remember that all too well ! It was blowout city.

 
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he lost money, isnt that enough.. oh wait... hes 19-0, cause he only beats his "system" plays... I forgot you just post other plays without ever playing them...

My bad...
 
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Per request of posters who think I should try posting lines closer to even instead of super-favs, I've been trying to post these Coin-flippers for you guys.

As I've said before, I'm not a fan of baseball and came to getting tennis to get away from it. Obviously I'm not hitting the low lines I recently started posting. All I can say is that I've tried for you guys.

Best of Luck to You All

I'll try harder next time.

Or maybe you should just fade my coin-flip picks, I was never good at betting baseball!
 
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wait...now you say this was a coin-flip?


after all those hard facts about how Chela is the superior player than the challenger kid?



 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

wait...now you say this was a coin-flip?


after all those hard facts about how Chela is the superior player than the challenger kid?




lol everyone tries to give some form of justification to make it look good after a loss. 
 
 
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"coin-flipper odds", but in my justificationas to why I see one side as a BETTER pick than the other, I didn't see ANY reason to support a pick on a dog that had NO experience at the ATP World Level besides his 3 matches that he did play at the World level.

That's why give props to people who can post a play on a Dog, and mostly THIS dog.

Congrats to Pospisil's backers!
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