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    Djokovic - O/U on how many slams he finishes with, 10.5

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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2012 - 10:23 AM ET #1

    incredible player, no doubt about it, but imo he is clearly not as dominant right now in terms of how is winning the way that fed was from 03 to 07 and rafa was in 08 and through all his french wins.  this is not to take anything away from him, because he is an amazing talent, just not the kind of overall dominant performer that fed and rafa have been in their own great runs.

    fed sits with 16, rafa with 10, and rafa's not done.  my predictions:

    1) djoko finishes with a max of 10

    so.....

    2) rafa finishes with more than djoko, most likely 13 or so slams for rafa when it's said and done

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    incredible player, no doubt about it, but imo he is clearly not as dominant right now in terms of how is winning the way that fed was from 03 to 07 and rafa was in 08 and through all his french wins.  this is not to take anything away from him, because he is an amazing talent, just not the kind of overall dominant performer that fed and rafa have been in their own great runs.

    fed sits with 16, rafa with 10, and rafa's not done.  my predictions:

    1) djoko finishes with a max of 10

    so.....

    2) rafa finishes with more than djoko, most likely 13 or so slams for rafa when it's said and done

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2012 - 10:25 AM ET #2

    current standings among active players:

    1) Fed at 16

    2) Rafa at 10

    3) Djoko at 5

    will bump again at the end of the French Open 

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    current standings among active players:

    1) Fed at 16

    2) Rafa at 10

    3) Djoko at 5

    will bump again at the end of the French Open 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2012 - 10:28 AM ET #3

    explain how his 2011 season wasn't dominating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by n3gative:

    explain how his 2011 season wasn't dominating?

    djoko got perennial choker murray in australia 2011 final

    djoko got blown out by fed in french semis

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had a broken foot while playing wimb final

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had to miss hardcourt season to heal from broken foot so was not 100% during us open final

    djoko needed 5 sets in australia to beat perennial choker murray

    djoko needed 5 sets to beat rafa in the final

    his 4 slams in the last 12 mos is a great achievement, but is not *as* impressive in overall dominance as what fed AND rafa have accomplished

    djoko is not a 'next level' kind of player, hence 5 slams vs rafa's 10 though they are just 11 mos apart in age

    if you only look at the end result, and now HOW they got there to the slam wins, you are just any other sports fan.  don't be just "any other sports fan", be an intellectual and break it down

    cheers mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by n3gative:

    explain how his 2011 season wasn't dominating?

    djoko got perennial choker murray in australia 2011 final

    djoko got blown out by fed in french semis

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had a broken foot while playing wimb final

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had to miss hardcourt season to heal from broken foot so was not 100% during us open final

    djoko needed 5 sets in australia to beat perennial choker murray

    djoko needed 5 sets to beat rafa in the final

    his 4 slams in the last 12 mos is a great achievement, but is not *as* impressive in overall dominance as what fed AND rafa have accomplished

    djoko is not a 'next level' kind of player, hence 5 slams vs rafa's 10 though they are just 11 mos apart in age

    if you only look at the end result, and now HOW they got there to the slam wins, you are just any other sports fan.  don't be just "any other sports fan", be an intellectual and break it down

    cheers mate

     
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    Novak's 2011 season was maybe the greatest season since Lavers grand slam.

    Novak was I believe 65-2 through the US Open... only losses were to Fed in the French semi's and to Murray in the Cincy final.

    He beat Nadal twice in straight sets on clay  

    He won Indian Wells and Miami back to back

    If thats not dominating... i'm not sure what is

     

     

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    Novak's 2011 season was maybe the greatest season since Lavers grand slam.

    Novak was I believe 65-2 through the US Open... only losses were to Fed in the French semi's and to Murray in the Cincy final.

    He beat Nadal twice in straight sets on clay  

    He won Indian Wells and Miami back to back

    If thats not dominating... i'm not sure what is

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Novak's 2011 season was maybe the greatest season since Lavers grand slam.

    Novak was I believe 65-2 through the US Open... only losses were to Fed in the French semi's and to Murray in the Cincy final.

    He beat Nadal twice in straight sets on clay  

    He won Indian Wells and Miami back to back

    If thats not dominating... i'm not sure what is

     

     

     

    it was an amazing season, no doubt about it, but if you concentrate on the record only and not *how* it was done, you will get blinded.

    the best of 3 set wins over nadal on clay mean nothing to me, and believe me they don't mean anything to nadal either.  he has lost to fed in those best of 3 matches on clay, then crushed him at roland garros

    all that matters on clay is the french, and we all know who the king of that tourney is, one RAFA NADAL

    again, dominant season in terms of wins and losses, but not *AS* dominant as the tennis and the way they won, that fed and rafa did it on their runs

    oh yea, and Rafa ain't done!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Novak's 2011 season was maybe the greatest season since Lavers grand slam.

    Novak was I believe 65-2 through the US Open... only losses were to Fed in the French semi's and to Murray in the Cincy final.

    He beat Nadal twice in straight sets on clay  

    He won Indian Wells and Miami back to back

    If thats not dominating... i'm not sure what is

     

     

     

    it was an amazing season, no doubt about it, but if you concentrate on the record only and not *how* it was done, you will get blinded.

    the best of 3 set wins over nadal on clay mean nothing to me, and believe me they don't mean anything to nadal either.  he has lost to fed in those best of 3 matches on clay, then crushed him at roland garros

    all that matters on clay is the french, and we all know who the king of that tourney is, one RAFA NADAL

    again, dominant season in terms of wins and losses, but not *AS* dominant as the tennis and the way they won, that fed and rafa did it on their runs

    oh yea, and Rafa ain't done!!

     
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    winning best of 3 matches is one of the most overrated stats in all of tennis.  fluky things can happen.

    i give Djoko ALL THE CREDIT for his majors, because they are on the biggest stage, and they are 3 out of 5

    remember how many odd results there were when the 1st rd of the NBA playoffs was best of 5?  now it's best of 7 and way fewer strange things happen 

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    winning best of 3 matches is one of the most overrated stats in all of tennis.  fluky things can happen.

    i give Djoko ALL THE CREDIT for his majors, because they are on the biggest stage, and they are 3 out of 5

    remember how many odd results there were when the 1st rd of the NBA playoffs was best of 5?  now it's best of 7 and way fewer strange things happen 

     
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    You clearly didn't watch the matches.... you don't think it meant something to Nadal to lose in Madrid?

    You don't think Nadal wanted to prove it was a fluke in Rome?

    Novak did something that nobody had ever done... he beat Nadal at his own game on clay.  Guys like Soderling-Federer and Andreev won matches using aggressive tactics and hitting winners. Novak grinded down Nadal using great defense and transition game.  If you don't think it cared to Nadal ... you're crazy

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    You clearly didn't watch the matches.... you don't think it meant something to Nadal to lose in Madrid?

    You don't think Nadal wanted to prove it was a fluke in Rome?

    Novak did something that nobody had ever done... he beat Nadal at his own game on clay.  Guys like Soderling-Federer and Andreev won matches using aggressive tactics and hitting winners. Novak grinded down Nadal using great defense and transition game.  If you don't think it cared to Nadal ... you're crazy

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    You clearly didn't watch the matches.... you don't think it meant something to Nadal to lose in Madrid?

    You don't think Nadal wanted to prove it was a fluke in Rome?

    Novak did something that nobody had ever done... he beat Nadal at his own game on clay.  Guys like Soderling-Federer and Andreev won matches using aggressive tactics and hitting winners. Novak grinded down Nadal using great defense and transition game.  If you don't think it cared to Nadal ... you're crazy



    he is not crazy, he is a retard
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    You clearly didn't watch the matches.... you don't think it meant something to Nadal to lose in Madrid?

    You don't think Nadal wanted to prove it was a fluke in Rome?

    Novak did something that nobody had ever done... he beat Nadal at his own game on clay.  Guys like Soderling-Federer and Andreev won matches using aggressive tactics and hitting winners. Novak grinded down Nadal using great defense and transition game.  If you don't think it cared to Nadal ... you're crazy



    he is not crazy, he is a retard
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:



    djoko got perennial choker murray in australia 2011 final

    djoko got blown out by fed in french semis

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had a broken foot while playing wimb final

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had to miss hardcourt season to heal from broken foot so was not 100% during us open final

    djoko needed 5 sets in australia to beat perennial choker murray

    djoko needed 5 sets to beat rafa in the final

    his 4 slams in the last 12 mos is a great achievement, but is not *as* impressive in overall dominance as what fed AND rafa have accomplished

    djoko is not a 'next level' kind of player, hence 5 slams vs rafa's 10 though they are just 11 mos apart in age

    if you only look at the end result, and now HOW they got there to the slam wins, you are just any other sports fan.  don't be just "any other sports fan", be an intellectual and break it down

    cheers mate



    Seriously? I shouldn't even be responding to this rubbish.

    You seem like a Nadal fan boy with your blatant discrediting of Djokovic's accomplishments.

    When he played Nadal in 2011, the results speak for themselves. 6 meetings in 6 finals, he won all of them including back to back titles on clay. He made the impossible, possible.

    4-1 h2h against Federer in 2011 as well. Djokovic beat the best players throughout the entire year and had Fed not ended his amazing unbeaten streak at the French, a possible calendar slam?

    Perennial choker Murray who's beaten Nadal twice to make a grand slam final? Nadal's played Berdych, Soderling and Puerta(!!) for French titles, who cares if Murray lost in the AO final. you have no point here

    Djokovic beat Fed in the AO semis in straights, how does a very tight 4 setter at the French represent getting blown out? you have no point here again

    Nadal's broken foot is the result of his style of play, Djokovic doesn't control player's injuries. 6 meetings, 6 wins, the results speak for themselves. you have no point here again

    5 sets for Murray, 5 sets for Rafa. He still won both matches while not quite looking his best, no? yet again no point

    2011 season:

    70 wins 6 losses, and one could argue that 5 of those losses were due to fatigue towards the end of the year. Still impressive to everyone, but not for you?

    3 Grand Slam titles, 5th man ever to accomplish this in one year. Obviously not impressive to you?

    Double digit titles in one year, again joins an elite list of players to accomplish this.

    5 masters titles in one year, never happened before. Took out Nadal in back to back events on clay. Obviously not impressive to you?

    But obviously an intellectual breakdown reveals he's not a "next level" kind of player.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:



    djoko got perennial choker murray in australia 2011 final

    djoko got blown out by fed in french semis

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had a broken foot while playing wimb final

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had to miss hardcourt season to heal from broken foot so was not 100% during us open final

    djoko needed 5 sets in australia to beat perennial choker murray

    djoko needed 5 sets to beat rafa in the final

    his 4 slams in the last 12 mos is a great achievement, but is not *as* impressive in overall dominance as what fed AND rafa have accomplished

    djoko is not a 'next level' kind of player, hence 5 slams vs rafa's 10 though they are just 11 mos apart in age

    if you only look at the end result, and now HOW they got there to the slam wins, you are just any other sports fan.  don't be just "any other sports fan", be an intellectual and break it down

    cheers mate



    Seriously? I shouldn't even be responding to this rubbish.

    You seem like a Nadal fan boy with your blatant discrediting of Djokovic's accomplishments.

    When he played Nadal in 2011, the results speak for themselves. 6 meetings in 6 finals, he won all of them including back to back titles on clay. He made the impossible, possible.

    4-1 h2h against Federer in 2011 as well. Djokovic beat the best players throughout the entire year and had Fed not ended his amazing unbeaten streak at the French, a possible calendar slam?

    Perennial choker Murray who's beaten Nadal twice to make a grand slam final? Nadal's played Berdych, Soderling and Puerta(!!) for French titles, who cares if Murray lost in the AO final. you have no point here

    Djokovic beat Fed in the AO semis in straights, how does a very tight 4 setter at the French represent getting blown out? you have no point here again

    Nadal's broken foot is the result of his style of play, Djokovic doesn't control player's injuries. 6 meetings, 6 wins, the results speak for themselves. you have no point here again

    5 sets for Murray, 5 sets for Rafa. He still won both matches while not quite looking his best, no? yet again no point

    2011 season:

    70 wins 6 losses, and one could argue that 5 of those losses were due to fatigue towards the end of the year. Still impressive to everyone, but not for you?

    3 Grand Slam titles, 5th man ever to accomplish this in one year. Obviously not impressive to you?

    Double digit titles in one year, again joins an elite list of players to accomplish this.

    5 masters titles in one year, never happened before. Took out Nadal in back to back events on clay. Obviously not impressive to you?

    But obviously an intellectual breakdown reveals he's not a "next level" kind of player.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2012 - 12:08 PM ET #11

    i cannot wait to bump this thread as the next 3 years go by,  i will get the last laugh, and it will be extremely loud 
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    i cannot wait to bump this thread as the next 3 years go by,  i will get the last laugh, and it will be extremely loud 
     
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    bump the thread that no one answered your question in?

    just walk away
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    bump the thread that no one answered your question in?

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    take Nadal's dick out of your mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    djoko got perennial choker murray in australia 2011 final

    djoko got blown out by fed in french semis

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had a broken foot while playing wimb final

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had to miss hardcourt season to heal from broken foot so was not 100% during us open final

    djoko needed 5 sets in australia to beat perennial choker murray

    djoko needed 5 sets to beat rafa in the final

    his 4 slams in the last 12 mos is a great achievement, but is not *as* impressive in overall dominance as what fed AND rafa have accomplished

    djoko is not a 'next level' kind of player, hence 5 slams vs rafa's 10 though they are just 11 mos apart in age

    if you only look at the end result, and now HOW they got there to the slam wins, you are just any other sports fan.  don't be just "any other sports fan", be an intellectual and break it down

    cheers mate

     

     

    who the hell do you think fed was beating his dominant years????  he was beating bums like roddick and hewitt who were ranked #2 and #3 respectively. and he was beating agassi who was like 35. lol. plus, fed never won 5 masters titles in any of his dominant years and neither did rafa. AND, those guys never had the winning streak nole had the beginning of last year

     

     

    you act like fed was beating some of the greats during his dominance

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    djoko got perennial choker murray in australia 2011 final

    djoko got blown out by fed in french semis

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had a broken foot while playing wimb final

    djoko was fortunate that rafa had to miss hardcourt season to heal from broken foot so was not 100% during us open final

    djoko needed 5 sets in australia to beat perennial choker murray

    djoko needed 5 sets to beat rafa in the final

    his 4 slams in the last 12 mos is a great achievement, but is not *as* impressive in overall dominance as what fed AND rafa have accomplished

    djoko is not a 'next level' kind of player, hence 5 slams vs rafa's 10 though they are just 11 mos apart in age

    if you only look at the end result, and now HOW they got there to the slam wins, you are just any other sports fan.  don't be just "any other sports fan", be an intellectual and break it down

    cheers mate

     

     

    who the hell do you think fed was beating his dominant years????  he was beating bums like roddick and hewitt who were ranked #2 and #3 respectively. and he was beating agassi who was like 35. lol. plus, fed never won 5 masters titles in any of his dominant years and neither did rafa. AND, those guys never had the winning streak nole had the beginning of last year

     

     

    you act like fed was beating some of the greats during his dominance

     
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    some of you bring up valid points, but do you not see that the reason the guy only has 5 slams and was such a late bloomer is because he is not built to be dominant?

    mentally nowhere near as good as Fed and Nadal are.  physically, the guy finally is in condition, whereby he was the laughingstock of tennis for retiring so many times.  remember Australia 09 against Roddick.  A-Rod to Djoko as Djoko retired: "what happened?"

    Djoko just keels over.  LMFAO

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    some of you bring up valid points, but do you not see that the reason the guy only has 5 slams and was such a late bloomer is because he is not built to be dominant?

    mentally nowhere near as good as Fed and Nadal are.  physically, the guy finally is in condition, whereby he was the laughingstock of tennis for retiring so many times.  remember Australia 09 against Roddick.  A-Rod to Djoko as Djoko retired: "what happened?"

    Djoko just keels over.  LMFAO

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2012 - 1:35 PM ET #16

    andy murray

    del potro

    tomic

    etc, etc, etc.......all of the young guns......

    will stop Djoko from getting to the heights that Fed and Rafa have reached and are reaching. respectively

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    andy murray

    del potro

    tomic

    etc, etc, etc.......all of the young guns......

    will stop Djoko from getting to the heights that Fed and Rafa have reached and are reaching. respectively

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    some of you bring up valid points, but do you not see that the reason the guy only has 5 slams and was such a late bloomer is because he is not built to be dominant?

    mentally nowhere near as good as Fed and Nadal are.  physically, the guy finally is in condition, whereby he was the laughingstock of tennis for retiring so many times.  remember Australia 09 against Roddick.  A-Rod to Djoko as Djoko retired: "what happened?"

    Djoko just keels over.  LMFAO

     

    nowhere near mentally as good as roger?????

     

    have you not seen the last 2 times he beat roger in the usopen. roger choked BOTH times!!! come on man.

    and who cares how he used to retire in macthes. the point is, he is in the best shape of anyone outside of Nadal right now. he just beat out Nadal in a 6 hour match so you could say that he is in even better shape than nadal.

    your points arer just not valid. add all this to the fact that he is dominating the game and winning all the majors while playing agianst 2 of the best players ever!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    some of you bring up valid points, but do you not see that the reason the guy only has 5 slams and was such a late bloomer is because he is not built to be dominant?

    mentally nowhere near as good as Fed and Nadal are.  physically, the guy finally is in condition, whereby he was the laughingstock of tennis for retiring so many times.  remember Australia 09 against Roddick.  A-Rod to Djoko as Djoko retired: "what happened?"

    Djoko just keels over.  LMFAO

     

    nowhere near mentally as good as roger?????

     

    have you not seen the last 2 times he beat roger in the usopen. roger choked BOTH times!!! come on man.

    and who cares how he used to retire in macthes. the point is, he is in the best shape of anyone outside of Nadal right now. he just beat out Nadal in a 6 hour match so you could say that he is in even better shape than nadal.

    your points arer just not valid. add all this to the fact that he is dominating the game and winning all the majors while playing agianst 2 of the best players ever!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2012 - 2:06 PM ET #18

    and you can make fun of Murray all you want, but if he wasnt playing in the same era as Fed, Nadal, and Nole (3 of the best players ever) than he would have had at least a couple of majors by this point considering he makes it to the semis or finals of every major and only loses to those 3
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    and you can make fun of Murray all you want, but if he wasnt playing in the same era as Fed, Nadal, and Nole (3 of the best players ever) than he would have had at least a couple of majors by this point considering he makes it to the semis or finals of every major and only loses to those 3
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2012 - 2:08 PM ET #19


    Nole will end with double digit majors for sure. who is going to beat him in the next 3 years???? he only needs 5 more to get to 10. cant see him not winning 2 per year for the next 3 years at least
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    Nole will end with double digit majors for sure. who is going to beat him in the next 3 years???? he only needs 5 more to get to 10. cant see him not winning 2 per year for the next 3 years at least
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2012 - 4:09 PM ET #20

    this niggas just stupid. Hes trying to rebuild his reputation on covers but dude after you created all those stupid threads to reverse jinx yourself, you lost it. You say everybody was sweating who had djoker but u must have gone through a few boxes of pampers from shitting yourself.
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    this niggas just stupid. Hes trying to rebuild his reputation on covers but dude after you created all those stupid threads to reverse jinx yourself, you lost it. You say everybody was sweating who had djoker but u must have gone through a few boxes of pampers from shitting yourself.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by n3gative:



    Seriously? I shouldn't even be responding to this rubbish.

    You seem like a Nadal fan boy with your blatant discrediting of Djokovic's accomplishments.

    When he played Nadal in 2011, the results speak for themselves. 6 meetings in 6 finals, he won all of them including back to back titles on clay. He made the impossible, possible.

    4-1 h2h against Federer in 2011 as well. Djokovic beat the best players throughout the entire year and had Fed not ended his amazing unbeaten streak at the French, a possible calendar slam?

    Perennial choker Murray who's beaten Nadal twice to make a grand slam final? Nadal's played Berdych, Soderling and Puerta(!!) for French titles, who cares if Murray lost in the AO final. you have no point here

    Djokovic beat Fed in the AO semis in straights, how does a very tight 4 setter at the French represent getting blown out? you have no point here again

    Nadal's broken foot is the result of his style of play, Djokovic doesn't control player's injuries. 6 meetings, 6 wins, the results speak for themselves. you have no point here again

    5 sets for Murray, 5 sets for Rafa. He still won both matches while not quite looking his best, no? yet again no point

    2011 season:

    70 wins 6 losses, and one could argue that 5 of those losses were due to fatigue towards the end of the year. Still impressive to everyone, but not for you?

    3 Grand Slam titles, 5th man ever to accomplish this in one year. Obviously not impressive to you?

    Double digit titles in one year, again joins an elite list of players to accomplish this.

    5 masters titles in one year, never happened before. Took out Nadal in back to back events on clay. Obviously not impressive to you?

    But obviously an intellectual breakdown reveals he's not a "next level" kind of player.




    Wait......so fatigue is a valid rationale for Novak's losses but a broken foot isn't for Nadal. News flash.....when you play a long and grueling season in pursuit of four grand slams......you might get tired. That is TOTALLY within his control. Conversely the broken foot is related to Nadal's style of play but much less so than his other injury related issues.

    My final slam count

    Fed 17
    Raffa 13 (2 more FO + 1 other)
    Novak 12-14

    Fed will likely finish his career with a losing record against Djoko, Nadal, and Murray (who I feel will still win a slam or two). That throws a wrench into his claim as the best ever. His resume is strong as the best ever, but some will argue that he wasn't the best even in his own era based on the head2head.

    On a side note, these personal attacks to tiresome and more appropriate for the politics section.


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    Seriously? I shouldn't even be responding to this rubbish.

    You seem like a Nadal fan boy with your blatant discrediting of Djokovic's accomplishments.

    When he played Nadal in 2011, the results speak for themselves. 6 meetings in 6 finals, he won all of them including back to back titles on clay. He made the impossible, possible.

    4-1 h2h against Federer in 2011 as well. Djokovic beat the best players throughout the entire year and had Fed not ended his amazing unbeaten streak at the French, a possible calendar slam?

    Perennial choker Murray who's beaten Nadal twice to make a grand slam final? Nadal's played Berdych, Soderling and Puerta(!!) for French titles, who cares if Murray lost in the AO final. you have no point here

    Djokovic beat Fed in the AO semis in straights, how does a very tight 4 setter at the French represent getting blown out? you have no point here again

    Nadal's broken foot is the result of his style of play, Djokovic doesn't control player's injuries. 6 meetings, 6 wins, the results speak for themselves. you have no point here again

    5 sets for Murray, 5 sets for Rafa. He still won both matches while not quite looking his best, no? yet again no point

    2011 season:

    70 wins 6 losses, and one could argue that 5 of those losses were due to fatigue towards the end of the year. Still impressive to everyone, but not for you?

    3 Grand Slam titles, 5th man ever to accomplish this in one year. Obviously not impressive to you?

    Double digit titles in one year, again joins an elite list of players to accomplish this.

    5 masters titles in one year, never happened before. Took out Nadal in back to back events on clay. Obviously not impressive to you?

    But obviously an intellectual breakdown reveals he's not a "next level" kind of player.




    Wait......so fatigue is a valid rationale for Novak's losses but a broken foot isn't for Nadal. News flash.....when you play a long and grueling season in pursuit of four grand slams......you might get tired. That is TOTALLY within his control. Conversely the broken foot is related to Nadal's style of play but much less so than his other injury related issues.

    My final slam count

    Fed 17
    Raffa 13 (2 more FO + 1 other)
    Novak 12-14

    Fed will likely finish his career with a losing record against Djoko, Nadal, and Murray (who I feel will still win a slam or two). That throws a wrench into his claim as the best ever. His resume is strong as the best ever, but some will argue that he wasn't the best even in his own era based on the head2head.

    On a side note, these personal attacks to tiresome and more appropriate for the politics section.


     
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    french open needs to hurry up and get here!


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    I think Djokovic is pretty damn dominating the last 2 years. He's won the last 3 hardcourt slams. Nadal has never won 3 hardcourt slams in a row (or 3 for that matter). Hardcourt slams are the hardest to win IMO. Outdoor Hardcourts these days are the most neutral courts in Tennis history. Almost everyone can play on them these days.

    I can see Djokovic winning 5 more hardcourt and 2 more grass/clay. I think he ends up with about 12 slams.

    I don't know if Fed is the most dominating player of all-time, but he's def the most talented player to ever pick up a racquet IMO.

    I guess you can make an argument for the most dominant for his body of work and how easy he makes it looks compared to everyone else having to work so hard.
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    I think Djokovic is pretty damn dominating the last 2 years. He's won the last 3 hardcourt slams. Nadal has never won 3 hardcourt slams in a row (or 3 for that matter). Hardcourt slams are the hardest to win IMO. Outdoor Hardcourts these days are the most neutral courts in Tennis history. Almost everyone can play on them these days.

    I can see Djokovic winning 5 more hardcourt and 2 more grass/clay. I think he ends up with about 12 slams.

    I don't know if Fed is the most dominating player of all-time, but he's def the most talented player to ever pick up a racquet IMO.

    I guess you can make an argument for the most dominant for his body of work and how easy he makes it looks compared to everyone else having to work so hard.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:


    Tomic???

    You just won the dumbest post on covers award. 


    you don't think Tomic will be a factor in slowing down Djoko in the years to come?

    hint: he will be WAY better long term than the waste of talent Gael Monfils


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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:


    Tomic???

    You just won the dumbest post on covers award. 


    you don't think Tomic will be a factor in slowing down Djoko in the years to come?

    hint: he will be WAY better long term than the waste of talent Gael Monfils


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