i just did for the first time and i was amazed. i got the hd dvd add on for my xbox360 and was shocked at the quality of hd dvd over the old format. i even found the hd dvd quality to be noticeably superior to the HDtv broadcasts i get from timewarner cable. the hd dvd drive came with king kong for free and that shit made my jaw drop. i went out and bought goodfellas and training day on hd dvd as well, and while the quality is better, ill admit the HD DVD technology is best suited for action movies and shit with lots of special effects. its probably a waste of money to buy your favorite drama movie in HD, but shit like terminator and the like would be great.
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i just did for the first time and i was amazed. i got the hd dvd add on for my xbox360 and was shocked at the quality of hd dvd over the old format. i even found the hd dvd quality to be noticeably superior to the HDtv broadcasts i get from timewarner cable. the hd dvd drive came with king kong for free and that shit made my jaw drop. i went out and bought goodfellas and training day on hd dvd as well, and while the quality is better, ill admit the HD DVD technology is best suited for action movies and shit with lots of special effects. its probably a waste of money to buy your favorite drama movie in HD, but shit like terminator and the like would be great.
My dad got an HD DVD Player for Christmas from my mom, and then had to go out and buy a new 1080P TV. The only movie I got to watch on it in true HD DVD was Van Helsing and the picture was crazy. Absolutly amazing. Can't wait to go back home and check out what new movies he has bought. Highly recommend
My dad got an HD DVD Player for Christmas from my mom, and then had to go out and buy a new 1080P TV. The only movie I got to watch on it in true HD DVD was Van Helsing and the picture was crazy. Absolutly amazing. Can't wait to go back home and check out what new movies he has bought. Highly recommend
The Toshiba is a nice unit, now that the bugs have been ironed out (for the most part). But it's still hit or miss........some movies don't translate well to HD, basically because of how they were filmed originally.
Nothing beats live sports in HD
The Toshiba is a nice unit, now that the bugs have been ironed out (for the most part). But it's still hit or miss........some movies don't translate well to HD, basically because of how they were filmed originally.
On this subject, whats a good price to pay for one? I
am in the market for one but was wondering if I should wait to prices
drop.
the absolute best deal is to get the hd dvd add on if you own an xbox. it retails for 200 bux(can be cheaper on ebay), and includes a remote control and the hd dvd version of king kong, which is widely regarded as having the best picture quality of any high def movie currently available(blu ray or hd dvd). ive watched 5 hd dvd movies, and i have hdtv cable service(i watch all the sports and movie chanels), and nothing comes close to the quality of king kong. its the movie u pop into your machine when you want to show off your high def dvd to your friends.
on ebay, a refurbished standalone toshiba hd dvd player is about 300 bux. u can get used blu ray players for about 450. considering ps3 has blu ray built in, 500 or 600 is really a good deal if u are interested in next gen dvd technology.
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On this subject, whats a good price to pay for one? I
am in the market for one but was wondering if I should wait to prices
drop.
the absolute best deal is to get the hd dvd add on if you own an xbox. it retails for 200 bux(can be cheaper on ebay), and includes a remote control and the hd dvd version of king kong, which is widely regarded as having the best picture quality of any high def movie currently available(blu ray or hd dvd). ive watched 5 hd dvd movies, and i have hdtv cable service(i watch all the sports and movie chanels), and nothing comes close to the quality of king kong. its the movie u pop into your machine when you want to show off your high def dvd to your friends.
on ebay, a refurbished standalone toshiba hd dvd player is about 300 bux. u can get used blu ray players for about 450. considering ps3 has blu ray built in, 500 or 600 is really a good deal if u are interested in next gen dvd technology.
1080p and 1080i dont mean shit. 1080i means 30fps and 1080p means 60fps. almost all movies are filmed at 24 frames per second, most tech savy people have confirmed that there is really no difference between i and p in real life viewing.
the 1080 resolution only benefits tv's that are 50+ inches plus. a 720p source is good enough for smaller tv's. according to the isf, picture resolution is only the 4th most important aspect in determining picture quality. contrast and color accuracy are more important
1080p and 1080i dont mean shit. 1080i means 30fps and 1080p means 60fps. almost all movies are filmed at 24 frames per second, most tech savy people have confirmed that there is really no difference between i and p in real life viewing.
the 1080 resolution only benefits tv's that are 50+ inches plus. a 720p source is good enough for smaller tv's. according to the isf, picture resolution is only the 4th most important aspect in determining picture quality. contrast and color accuracy are more important
I dont have an xbox. So whats a better purchase, the
hd-dvd player or the blu- ray disc player? Which will follow the
demise like beta?
its too early to tell. blu-ray disk sales are doing better, but largely due to the ps3. from what ive read, there have only been like 25,000 standalone blu-ray players sold, compared to like 275,000 hd dvd players. blu-ray makes up the difference in the ps3 though. the hollywood studio support is split(universal is hd dvd exclusive, while disney, sony and fox are blu-ray exclusive). the porn industry is hd dvd exclusive, which may be huge. standalone hd dvd players are much cheaper(and better) than standalone blu-ray players, but the ps3 is a great deal.
if you have a few bux to burn, and no xbox360, i suggest finding a standalone hd dvd player for $300 or less. your best bet is amazon or ebay. you will probably end up with a first generation toshiba hd-a1 for that price. toshiba has released their second generation players, which are a tad more expensive, but as more players hit hte market, the prices continue to drop.
if i had to predict which format will come out on top, for now i would say blu-ray, but its close. both formats are a long ways off from becoming the norm. standard def dvd's arent going anywhere for at least 2 years, probably longer. don't be afraid to try out hd dvd, even if the format ultimately fails, you will still have a great upconverting standard def dvd player(the toshiba hd dvd players upconverting abilities are said to be as good as denon dvd players which retail for well over $500)
Quote Originally Posted by shadowman74:
I dont have an xbox. So whats a better purchase, the
hd-dvd player or the blu- ray disc player? Which will follow the
demise like beta?
its too early to tell. blu-ray disk sales are doing better, but largely due to the ps3. from what ive read, there have only been like 25,000 standalone blu-ray players sold, compared to like 275,000 hd dvd players. blu-ray makes up the difference in the ps3 though. the hollywood studio support is split(universal is hd dvd exclusive, while disney, sony and fox are blu-ray exclusive). the porn industry is hd dvd exclusive, which may be huge. standalone hd dvd players are much cheaper(and better) than standalone blu-ray players, but the ps3 is a great deal.
if you have a few bux to burn, and no xbox360, i suggest finding a standalone hd dvd player for $300 or less. your best bet is amazon or ebay. you will probably end up with a first generation toshiba hd-a1 for that price. toshiba has released their second generation players, which are a tad more expensive, but as more players hit hte market, the prices continue to drop.
if i had to predict which format will come out on top, for now i would say blu-ray, but its close. both formats are a long ways off from becoming the norm. standard def dvd's arent going anywhere for at least 2 years, probably longer. don't be afraid to try out hd dvd, even if the format ultimately fails, you will still have a great upconverting standard def dvd player(the toshiba hd dvd players upconverting abilities are said to be as good as denon dvd players which retail for well over $500)
If Sony can perfect the triple layer disc then I can see them winning the format war eventually. They got out of the gate slow (the initial Samsung unit had issues. The HD-A1 did as well but were apparently ironed out rather quickly), but the ability to reproduce long movies in HD, along with having Super Dolby audio would be a plus. I've always adopted a "wait & see" attitude, as you can blow a lot of money on shit when it 1st comes out, only to have it get better & cheaper down the road.
Also........I home demo'd a Denon 2910 dvd player (mostly to try out the sacd/dvd-a) & found that it's up-converting capabilities gave me no better of a picture than my current progressive scan dvd player. I tried a quality Marantz unit & found the same to be true. I'm not sold that up-converting is really any better than a decent progressive scan player.
I agree, adam, on the 1080i/1080p issue. From everything I've seen & read, your info is correct. Unless someone is looking at a 65" or larger there isn't much to be gained (at this point in time) by getting a 1080p set.........especially since noone broadcasts anything in 1080p anyhow. Many times it's difficult to compare in a showroom because all the sets are torched & some look better that way than others. I spent an hour the other day at the local Magnolia A/V store comparing sets. The salesman didn't have an issue with me adjusting the sets down for comparison & the results were mixed. The best looking set was a 50"(?) mitsubishi 1080p (I believe it was a dlp......don't remember, but I didn't look at any plasma's) but there were many great looking 720p's from Sony & Samsung that were bigger, so go figure. It's very subjective.........like which speakers sound better.
I'm still content with my 55" mitsu. rpcrt (hd.......1080i) for now. I was fortunate that it had no real issues right out of the box, & after running through a DVE disc, & venturing into the service manual to turn off the SVM, I've got a pretty darn good picture.
If Sony can perfect the triple layer disc then I can see them winning the format war eventually. They got out of the gate slow (the initial Samsung unit had issues. The HD-A1 did as well but were apparently ironed out rather quickly), but the ability to reproduce long movies in HD, along with having Super Dolby audio would be a plus. I've always adopted a "wait & see" attitude, as you can blow a lot of money on shit when it 1st comes out, only to have it get better & cheaper down the road.
Also........I home demo'd a Denon 2910 dvd player (mostly to try out the sacd/dvd-a) & found that it's up-converting capabilities gave me no better of a picture than my current progressive scan dvd player. I tried a quality Marantz unit & found the same to be true. I'm not sold that up-converting is really any better than a decent progressive scan player.
I agree, adam, on the 1080i/1080p issue. From everything I've seen & read, your info is correct. Unless someone is looking at a 65" or larger there isn't much to be gained (at this point in time) by getting a 1080p set.........especially since noone broadcasts anything in 1080p anyhow. Many times it's difficult to compare in a showroom because all the sets are torched & some look better that way than others. I spent an hour the other day at the local Magnolia A/V store comparing sets. The salesman didn't have an issue with me adjusting the sets down for comparison & the results were mixed. The best looking set was a 50"(?) mitsubishi 1080p (I believe it was a dlp......don't remember, but I didn't look at any plasma's) but there were many great looking 720p's from Sony & Samsung that were bigger, so go figure. It's very subjective.........like which speakers sound better.
I'm still content with my 55" mitsu. rpcrt (hd.......1080i) for now. I was fortunate that it had no real issues right out of the box, & after running through a DVE disc, & venturing into the service manual to turn off the SVM, I've got a pretty darn good picture.
hey mugg, if you are looking for a new tv, ive got 2 suggestions....
sony rear projection sxrd.... they run between 50 and 65 inches, rear projection(not dlp though). unbelievable picture, native 1080 resolution. deep blacks and rich colors. only problem with these tv's is the viewing angle is limited and i believe the bulbs need to be replaced every few years, just like dlp's. the price is awesome too, ive seen the 50" at my local electronics store for about $1700. rear projection tv's are cheaper than lcd's and plasma's.
panasonic px60u or px600u series plasma- i just purchased the 42" model for 1200 bux and its awesome. it's a 2006 set, and the 07's just came out, so these are all on sale. from what i've read, panasonic is rated as the 2nd best brand in terms of picture quality for plasma's, only trailing the much more expensive pioneer's. colors look great, plenty of inputs, no complaints whatsoever. fabulous product
hey mugg, if you are looking for a new tv, ive got 2 suggestions....
sony rear projection sxrd.... they run between 50 and 65 inches, rear projection(not dlp though). unbelievable picture, native 1080 resolution. deep blacks and rich colors. only problem with these tv's is the viewing angle is limited and i believe the bulbs need to be replaced every few years, just like dlp's. the price is awesome too, ive seen the 50" at my local electronics store for about $1700. rear projection tv's are cheaper than lcd's and plasma's.
panasonic px60u or px600u series plasma- i just purchased the 42" model for 1200 bux and its awesome. it's a 2006 set, and the 07's just came out, so these are all on sale. from what i've read, panasonic is rated as the 2nd best brand in terms of picture quality for plasma's, only trailing the much more expensive pioneer's. colors look great, plenty of inputs, no complaints whatsoever. fabulous product
Thanks adam.............I'm getting the itch with prices diving so much. I bought my set on close-out for $1400 out the door about 2 1/2 years ago. It's excellent but puts a limitation on room configuration. The set I had in mind was the 56" Samsung dlp, but with the XW (for the bulb replacement) it would've been around $3600.............same set now is about half that.
The sxrd's are damn nice units, as are many of the plasma's. The next set I buy is going to be bigger than what I've got. I'm considering a front projector with a 92"-110" screen. The prices on those have also come down drastically while the improvements have been vast. There's limitations on those as far as room light & such, so I'm not sure I want to go there. I may buy a used one & see how well it works in my untreated room.
What I want & what I need are 2 different things. I'm trying to exercise some restraint,LOL.
Thanks adam.............I'm getting the itch with prices diving so much. I bought my set on close-out for $1400 out the door about 2 1/2 years ago. It's excellent but puts a limitation on room configuration. The set I had in mind was the 56" Samsung dlp, but with the XW (for the bulb replacement) it would've been around $3600.............same set now is about half that.
The sxrd's are damn nice units, as are many of the plasma's. The next set I buy is going to be bigger than what I've got. I'm considering a front projector with a 92"-110" screen. The prices on those have also come down drastically while the improvements have been vast. There's limitations on those as far as room light & such, so I'm not sure I want to go there. I may buy a used one & see how well it works in my untreated room.
What I want & what I need are 2 different things. I'm trying to exercise some restraint,LOL.
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