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    Wagerline STREAKER (fade) system

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    Posted: May. 11, 2009 - 1:55 PM ET #26

    THE.K.O.P (14) has the bruins tomorrow. Bruins whooped Hurricanes last night, but the Canes are at home tomorrow. So I think I will fade this play tomorrow night. 
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    THE.K.O.P (14) has the bruins tomorrow. Bruins whooped Hurricanes last night, but the Canes are at home tomorrow. So I think I will fade this play tomorrow night. 
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2009 - 2:14 PM ET #27

    buckeyestine (13) just released Cavs -10. I found Hawks +11.5 on betus and took it. I've made a lot of money on the Cavs taking them and the points. They've won 9 in a row against the spread so it was hard for me to bet against them. But it's times like these when everything starts to even out and 11.5 points is A LOT of points in the playoffs. 
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    buckeyestine (13) just released Cavs -10. I found Hawks +11.5 on betus and took it. I've made a lot of money on the Cavs taking them and the points. They've won 9 in a row against the spread so it was hard for me to bet against them. But it's times like these when everything starts to even out and 11.5 points is A LOT of points in the playoffs. 
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2009 - 3:13 PM ET #28

    I just saw that too...thx for helping out hoop.  I'm gonna wait until closer to game time to see what I can get w/ ATL.  I have to keep telling myself that we're fading buckeyestine - NOT the Cav's!!  If ATL avoids settling for jumpers, they should be able to cover 10+ no problem.

    ATL +10
    right now, but I'll wait until closer to game time to lock in as I believe this line will continue to rise.......either way it will be a 4u play.



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    I just saw that too...thx for helping out hoop.  I'm gonna wait until closer to game time to see what I can get w/ ATL.  I have to keep telling myself that we're fading buckeyestine - NOT the Cav's!!  If ATL avoids settling for jumpers, they should be able to cover 10+ no problem.

    ATL +10
    right now, but I'll wait until closer to game time to lock in as I believe this line will continue to rise.......either way it will be a 4u play.



     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2009 - 6:59 PM ET #29

    kohli4 (17) thought it would be worth noting that he's got ATL +10 tonight.............................will he make it to 18 ?  

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    kohli4 (17) thought it would be worth noting that he's got ATL +10 tonight.............................will he make it to 18 ?  

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2009 - 12:37 PM ET #30

    Yesterday's results...sucked.  I had a long-late meeting and did not have much time to line-shop prior to it so I locked in at the same #'s they had.

    DEN +1.5 (lost 2.2 units)
    ATL +10 (push)


    YTD: 3-3-2 (-8.2u's)



    At some point these fuckers will lose...and I'll continue chasing/fading their plays until they do!!
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    Yesterday's results...sucked.  I had a long-late meeting and did not have much time to line-shop prior to it so I locked in at the same #'s they had.

    DEN +1.5 (lost 2.2 units)
    ATL +10 (push)


    YTD: 3-3-2 (-8.2u's)



    At some point these fuckers will lose...and I'll continue chasing/fading their plays until they do!!
     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2009 - 12:57 PM ET #31

    Today we have TWO plays so far from our beloved streakers:

    THE.K.O.P (14 wins, going for #15) selects the BOSTON BRUINS -120 which means that I will fade with CAROLINA +100 (5Dimes.com) for 8u's.

    russyboy56 (13 wins, going for #14) selects SF GIANTS -129 which means I'll take WAS NATIONALS +120 for 4u's


    Reminder, the chase system I am testing works like this: for streakers who are on their 12th win, FADE their 13th selection with a 2u wager.  If that wager loses, FADE their 14th selection with a 4u wager.  If that loses, FADE their 15th selection with an 8u wager.  Looks like this...

    13th selection FADE = 2u wager
    14th selection FADE = 4u wager
    15th selection FADE = 8u wager


    At the end of this week, I will re-assess the system/wager sizes and possibly lower the first fade play down to 1u instead of 2u so I can sustain a longer chase - as needed.  Any suggestions you have towards making this work...let me know.  Thanks.






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    Today we have TWO plays so far from our beloved streakers:

    THE.K.O.P (14 wins, going for #15) selects the BOSTON BRUINS -120 which means that I will fade with CAROLINA +100 (5Dimes.com) for 8u's.

    russyboy56 (13 wins, going for #14) selects SF GIANTS -129 which means I'll take WAS NATIONALS +120 for 4u's


    Reminder, the chase system I am testing works like this: for streakers who are on their 12th win, FADE their 13th selection with a 2u wager.  If that wager loses, FADE their 14th selection with a 4u wager.  If that loses, FADE their 15th selection with an 8u wager.  Looks like this...

    13th selection FADE = 2u wager
    14th selection FADE = 4u wager
    15th selection FADE = 8u wager


    At the end of this week, I will re-assess the system/wager sizes and possibly lower the first fade play down to 1u instead of 2u so I can sustain a longer chase - as needed.  Any suggestions you have towards making this work...let me know.  Thanks.






     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2009 - 12:59 PM ET #32


    re-cap of today's plays:

    CAROLINA +100 .....8u's
    WAS NAT's +120 ....4u's
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    re-cap of today's plays:

    CAROLINA +100 .....8u's
    WAS NAT's +120 ....4u's
     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2009 - 1:03 PM ET #33

    kohli4 - if you happen to read this...please do us a favor and post your plays earlier.  
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    kohli4 - if you happen to read this...please do us a favor and post your plays earlier.  
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2009 - 1:53 AM ET #34

    I think I've finally proved that fading hot streakers is not worth my time...or money.  This marks the end of this thread - that is, unless someone else has something of value to ad.

    PEACE OUT.

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    I think I've finally proved that fading hot streakers is not worth my time...or money.  This marks the end of this thread - that is, unless someone else has something of value to ad.

    PEACE OUT.

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2009 - 8:23 AM ET #35

    greenmachine, you have a sample size of like 15 games. i have a sample size of almost 100 hundred with about a 60% success rate of fading. you just have to find the right money management system to use with this kind of strategy. you can't always fade these guys. sometimes you have to tail them as well. 
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    greenmachine, you have a sample size of like 15 games. i have a sample size of almost 100 hundred with about a 60% success rate of fading. you just have to find the right money management system to use with this kind of strategy. you can't always fade these guys. sometimes you have to tail them as well. 
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2009 - 3:43 PM ET #36

    Kohli took the Nationals over the Giants today. A pretty bold pick. If he wins this one then I will never fade him again.
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    Kohli took the Nationals over the Giants today. A pretty bold pick. If he wins this one then I will never fade him again.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2009 - 7:04 PM ET #37

    I am looking for a way to make money quickly and this system hasn't provided that.  kohli4 won his 18th straight pick today w/ the Nationals which is just absurd...and TheK.O.P. won again today as well.  WTF!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! 
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    I am looking for a way to make money quickly and this system hasn't provided that.  kohli4 won his 18th straight pick today w/ the Nationals which is just absurd...and TheK.O.P. won again today as well.  WTF!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! 
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2009 - 7:07 PM ET #38

    hoop - feel free to post your plays/analysis if you'd like.  I know I'm interested in this system, just don't like guessing when to fade and when to follow and have lost too much $$$ to continue.  GL bud
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    hoop - feel free to post your plays/analysis if you'd like.  I know I'm interested in this system, just don't like guessing when to fade and when to follow and have lost too much $$$ to continue.  GL bud
     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2009 - 9:58 AM ET #39

    Just stumbled into this thread.  Man, I cannot believe you guys actually fading hot streakers, especially once they get to 15.  I have tried that in the past with not much luck.  At that point, as someone stated, the games are very selective.  And if you are looking for a quick way to earn money fast, you cannot do it this way.

    If you want to try and gain money fast, try a three-game chase fading everyone on the list between streaks 3 and 5.  it might be a better return.

        
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    Just stumbled into this thread.  Man, I cannot believe you guys actually fading hot streakers, especially once they get to 15.  I have tried that in the past with not much luck.  At that point, as someone stated, the games are very selective.  And if you are looking for a quick way to earn money fast, you cannot do it this way.

    If you want to try and gain money fast, try a three-game chase fading everyone on the list between streaks 3 and 5.  it might be a better return.

        
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2009 - 12:30 AM ET #40

    i have watched this system, and come up with my own...if u really want to fade a streaker wait till they hit a min (7) once they pick a loser(they're streak ended) fade they're very next pick only(there pick after the loss), then repeat the process...you will find a higher win% on fades...i have watched this for 10 months...works like a charm...worked on all those catz that hit 16, 17 in a row, once they lose, that "law of average" automaticly kicks in.
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    i have watched this system, and come up with my own...if u really want to fade a streaker wait till they hit a min (7) once they pick a loser(they're streak ended) fade they're very next pick only(there pick after the loss), then repeat the process...you will find a higher win% on fades...i have watched this for 10 months...works like a charm...worked on all those catz that hit 16, 17 in a row, once they lose, that "law of average" automaticly kicks in.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2009 - 10:05 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:

    i have watched this system, and come up with my own...if u really want to fade a streaker wait till they hit a min (7) once they pick a loser(they're streak ended) fade they're very next pick only(there pick after the loss), then repeat the process...you will find a higher win% on fades...i have watched this for 10 months...works like a charm...worked on all those catz that hit 16, 17 in a row, once they lose, that "law of average" automaticly kicks in.

    *FADE*

    misterbluff : +100 Tor (tied 3-3 top 11 th)

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:

    i have watched this system, and come up with my own...if u really want to fade a streaker wait till they hit a min (7) once they pick a loser(they're streak ended) fade they're very next pick only(there pick after the loss), then repeat the process...you will find a higher win% on fades...i have watched this for 10 months...works like a charm...worked on all those catz that hit 16, 17 in a row, once they lose, that "law of average" automaticly kicks in.

    *FADE*

    misterbluff : +100 Tor (tied 3-3 top 11 th)

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2009 - 10:11 PM ET #42

    waiting to fade
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2009 - 10:17 PM ET #43

    *fade*
    dwade67:minn-112
    chi sox 8-5 top 9
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    *fade*
    dwade67:minn-112
    chi sox 8-5 top 9
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2009 - 10:20 PM ET #44

    *fade*
    saxarra: under 8 tex @ sea
     
     
     
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    *fade*
    saxarra: under 8 tex @ sea
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2009 - 10:55 PM ET #45

    results : 2-0

    waiting: (fade)under 8 tx vs sea - i like the under but lets see

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    results : 2-0

    waiting: (fade)under 8 tx vs sea - i like the under but lets see

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2009 - 11:56 PM ET #46

    results : 2-1
     
    under 8 tx vs sea 1-1 6th inn
     pretty sure its going under
     so 2-1  66% not bad
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    results : 2-1
     
    under 8 tx vs sea 1-1 6th inn
     pretty sure its going under
     so 2-1  66% not bad
     
     
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