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zOrO-GZA

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 3:25 AM ET #26

SRTZEE

Nice one man, i use the same strategy to clean up BlackJack Bonus Online and it works great, when you have played 2,000us you can withdraw the bonus and like 400-500us just for playing.

im gonna try the system in baccarat...

ChanceP

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 4:25 AM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by SRTZEE:

Do some reading up on it, it's basically a 50/50 game. Baccarat has the best odds of any casino game.

If its a casino game then its not 50/50. There is no such thing as a "casino game" that is 50/50 or it wouldnt be a casino game. You guys can spin the numbers all you want but youre not gonna beat any casino game over the long run no matter how hard you try. You might win $100 here and $100 there but I guarantee if you employ any type of "system thinking youre gonna beat baccarat or blackjack youre nuts. Call a casino and tell then yo have a "system" to beat baccarat or blackjack, they'll send a limo for you

NFLNightmares

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 6:40 AM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by ChanceP:

the closest to 50-50 is craps with 100x odds, some smaller vegas casinos allow 100x odds. More used to like the frontier for instance but they were getting hurt by highrollers ( usually from across the street staying at the desert inn) so they canned it. Because those guests were not staying at frontier, just walking across to play dice with the miniscule house edge 100x odds provides, yet they were not playing any other games at the frontier. They were walking back across to play blackjack, sports, etc etc. Last time I was in Sams town, few years back, they still had it and I am sure a few places still so.

Just playing the line and max odds you have to risk 505 dollars a point, not a roll, a point, but it is still alot of dough. However house edge is tiny.

House edge if you play 100x odds is as follows..

All examples are on a 505 dollar risk and the numbers are PROFIT, they do not include your bet.

If point is a 4 or 10 payout is 1005 true odds is 1010 house edge 5 dollars or less then 0.0049%

If point is 5 or 9 payout is 705 true odds is 707

house edge is 2 dollars or less then 0.0028%

If point is 6 or 8 payout is 605 true odds is 606

house edge is 1 dollar or less then 0.0016%

The ONLY thing not factored in is the original roll where 5 dollars is at risk. The original 5 dollar bet if you roll craps you lose the 5 bucks, craps is 2,3, or 12. If you roll a 7 or 11 you win 5 dollars.

The odds of either of these happening is IN YOUR FAVOR 2-1

there are 8 combinations that pay the 5 bucks and only 4 combinations that you lose the 5 bucks.

So as tiny as the edge is in 100x odds craps I illustrated above, it is actually a fraction of a percentage point LOWER for the house.

This is as good as it gets in casinos. Like chance said NOTHING is 50-50, but this is virtually 50-50 if you have discipline and money management. That means no chasing

Quote Originally Posted by ChanceP:

Just playing the line and max odds you have to risk 505 dollars a point, not a roll, a point, but it is still alot of dough. However house edge is tiny.

House edge if you play 100x odds is as follows..

All examples are on a 505 dollar risk and the numbers are PROFIT, they do not include your bet.

If point is a 4 or 10 payout is 1005 true odds is 1010 house edge 5 dollars or less then 0.0049%

If point is 5 or 9 payout is 705 true odds is 707

house edge is 2 dollars or less then 0.0028%

If point is 6 or 8 payout is 605 true odds is 606

house edge is 1 dollar or less then 0.0016%

The odds of either of these happening is IN YOUR FAVOR 2-1

there are 8 combinations that pay the 5 bucks and only 4 combinations that you lose the 5 bucks.

So as tiny as the edge is in 100x odds craps I illustrated above, it is actually a fraction of a percentage point LOWER for the house.

This is as good as it gets in casinos. Like chance said NOTHING is 50-50, but this is virtually 50-50 if you have discipline and money management. That means no chasing

SRTZEE

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 9:43 AM ET #29

I said it was basically a 50/50, since you don't lose any money on a tie, so you either win or lose. Of course the house has the edge otherwise they wouldn't offer the game.

"In fact the probability of winning due to a banker bet is the highest, that is almost 46%, when a player lays a bet on 'player' he or she has the probability of 45% to win, and if it a tie that a bet has been put on, then a player will win 9% of the time"

Like I said in rule 10 I never play ties....

I never said it was a system to beat baccarat, I said these are my rules and strategy, that is how I play and it works for me. If you read my post before you commented on it, you would see I say,"Basically you want to make some money then get out. The longer you play the more chance of losing."

If you go in to play and say your not leaving till you make $1000 then your absolutley going to fail. If you go in there and can't win 1 hand out of 5, 97% of the time, then you should forget about gambling and find yourself a hobby... Try it before you bash it...

Yes craps with 100x odds is best, but nowhere to be found....

SRTZEE

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 9:56 AM ET #30

We'll let HeaVin-Cent be the judge. He's never played baccarat before, so if he follows my strategy, (which is not 100% fool proof, I know that, never said that it was) and he doesn't get greedy, he should like it. Time will tell...

NFLNightmares

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 12:01 PM ET #31

SRT,

I was not criticizing your baccarat strategy. I am not familiar with it. I play bac on occasion, once or twice a year. I do agree that in a typical casino it has the lowest edge of the standard table games. In order to get a tiny tiny house edge in craps you have to be willing to bet far more $$ then most people are willing to risk.

SRTZEE

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 12:15 PM ET #32

All good NFLNightmares..

Chance was the one saying I had a system, when I didn't even mention system in my post. I have my strategy that I use, that works for me. I never claimed it works 100% of the time and I never will...

SRTZEE

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 1:13 PM ET #33

One more thing, not sure what your casino has. At pinnacle they have a board on the side, (like on the roulette table) that shows the last 15 hands so you can see if a pattern is forming. At 365 they don't have this, so it is best to write them down...

ChanceP

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 2:04 PM ET #34

I wish you all the luck in the world. I just dont agree or believe that any "system" or "strategy" will work over the long run in a casino game. If it does I would do it in a heartbeat. Its just if I had a dollar for every time someones "strategy" worked in the long run, Id still be broke

SRTZEE

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 2:34 PM ET #35

LOL..To each his own...I'm up $90 today, never had to double past $16 so kept playing. Good enough for me for today...

HeaVin-Cent

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 6:51 PM ET #36

I am not a big fan of the "CHASE SYSTEMS" simply because if you do happen to get that losing streak you can lose close to 75 units with in 5-6 hands to only win 1. I have been messing around with Baccarat today and I like to play the same strategy that I use with Craps.

Progressive bankroll management is what I like. It takes the least amount of risk when losing, and when the hot streak hits it takes advantage of it.

If Winning it looks like this

Bet 1 Unit = Win = 2 Unit

Bet 2 Units = Win = 4 unit

Now you can either play it safe and rebet 2 or you can bet 3. So now your playing for free and have the potential of getting more units

Bet 3 Units = Win = 6 units (+1 that you took back)

Bet 4 Units = Win = 8 Units (+3 that you took back)

I like this for the simple fact that when you lose its only 1 unit. You can press it up as much as you want or make it safe depending on what you want. I play more loose when I am doing well and the luck is going my way. After I get to a unit in which I feel good on (8-10) I take it back to 2 or 3 and start back over till I lose in which I go back to 1.

maitr3

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 11:19 PM ET #37

srtzee, that's a really cool bacarrat strategy you have there. i'm going to try it out myself, but instead of pattern betting, i'll flip a coin instead, heads-banker, tails-player.

maitr3

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 11:22 PM ET #38

srtzee, if you play bacarrat on the bonus casino at 5dimes, if you tie you push. that basically kills the house edge. =)

maitr3

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2008 - 11:24 PM ET #39

nevermind, i guess tie = push everywhere, my bad

zOrO-GZA

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2008 - 12:50 AM ET #40

Quote Originally Posted by ChanceP:

i agree, just play, win some and leave!, cuz if you play too much u gonna loose in the long run, check my post, just play to clean the bonus and cash out.. simple.

HeaVin-Cent

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2008 - 12:58 AM ET #41

I have to say that I will agree with STRZE. What I wrote wouldnt work out with this Baccarat system as well as craps but I do agree with win a few buck then take a break. Thanks.

donvndcn

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2008 - 2:18 AM ET #42

It is strange that I found this because I was fixing to buy it but I was not aware that you had to go to certain books to use the systems.

I am needing a good system in NFL and College so I was gonna buy it, can anyone tell me what the system is for NFL and College since they do not consist of runlines etc.... I am greatly appreciated of anyone sharing this info.

bl0wnaway

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Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 5:23 PM ET #43

How often do you seen +odds for the favorite and the dog? Seems to me there's no incentive for the house. Is it only seen in NHL and MLB?

BigEasyPicks

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Posted: Nov. 3, 2008 - 9:48 AM ET #44

Quote Originally Posted by Adal1205:

Hello, does anyone know about the William Davis 's System(Ultimate sports betting system) which consist in 5 systems:

Betting System #1 (NFL 100% Betting System) This Betting System hasn't lost once in 22 years.

? Betting System #2 (NBA 97.3% Betting System) This Betting System has Won 97.3% of the time over the past 15 years.

? Betting System #3 (MLB Baseball Betting System) This Betting System has Won 97.2% of the time over the past 17 years.

? Betting System #4 (NCAA Football System) This Betting System has Won 97.7% of the time over the past 12 years.

? Betting System #5 (NCAA Basketball System) This Betting System has Won 96.8% of the time over the past 11 years.

I guess that the system for the NBA and MLB are the same as John Morrison's, but the NCAAF, NCAAB and NFL systems anyone can tell what about them.

Thanks in advance,

What are the systems for NBA and Football? If we covered the NHL and Baseball?

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