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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 10:23 PM ET #276

    We need to think of some filters. Can you post the data on google drive or something like that so I can play around with it?
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 7:52 PM ET #277

    Thanks Dan 
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 11:59 PM ET #278

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I like this idea, but it can be scary when there is a bad losing streak. Last year the top fave had winning streaks of 6, 9, 9, 7. Not sure I'd be able to chase this for 7-10 games. How many units would that 10th game be for and how many would you be down at that point?

    I think I saw on here the betting progression is 1-5 units for the first 5 games. What is it for games 6-10? 

    The Top Dog having an extended losing streak is more likely than the "Top Favorite" having one.  I checked 2011-2012 and similar to what Dan said about last year, there were many extended Fave streaks of 4-9 games.  There were only a handful of Top Dog winning streaks longer than 2 games. Thus it might be a better idea to play the Top Favorite every night.  At least that way you are playing with the stronger teams in the league.  Yeah it is heavy juice but at least you're not chasing with lousy teams.  Plus you can lay off the really big numbers and press a little to try and catch one of those streaks. Just my .02.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I like this idea, but it can be scary when there is a bad losing streak. Last year the top fave had winning streaks of 6, 9, 9, 7. Not sure I'd be able to chase this for 7-10 games. How many units would that 10th game be for and how many would you be down at that point?

    I think I saw on here the betting progression is 1-5 units for the first 5 games. What is it for games 6-10? 

    The Top Dog having an extended losing streak is more likely than the "Top Favorite" having one.  I checked 2011-2012 and similar to what Dan said about last year, there were many extended Fave streaks of 4-9 games.  There were only a handful of Top Dog winning streaks longer than 2 games. Thus it might be a better idea to play the Top Favorite every night.  At least that way you are playing with the stronger teams in the league.  Yeah it is heavy juice but at least you're not chasing with lousy teams.  Plus you can lay off the really big numbers and press a little to try and catch one of those streaks. Just my .02.  
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 2:19 PM ET #279

    Waiting for the top dog to lose, say 4 or 5 in a row, and then starting the chase might be a lot easier on the bankroll.

     

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    Waiting for the top dog to lose, say 4 or 5 in a row, and then starting the chase might be a lot easier on the bankroll.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 5:43 PM ET #280

    ...Or just wait until you get a night like last night, ANA +170 at home (gm 4) and hammer it.

    I will be posting plays again as soon as I return to Internet land on Tuesday.
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    ...Or just wait until you get a night like last night, ANA +170 at home (gm 4) and hammer it.

    I will be posting plays again as soon as I return to Internet land on Tuesday.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 6:30 PM ET #281

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachine22:

    ...Or just wait until you get a night like last night, ANA +170 at home (gm 4) and hammer it.

    I will be posting plays again as soon as I return to Internet land on Tuesday.

    Hammer Anaheim? They were a large fav not a dog and won!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachine22:

    ...Or just wait until you get a night like last night, ANA +170 at home (gm 4) and hammer it.

    I will be posting plays again as soon as I return to Internet land on Tuesday.

    Hammer Anaheim? They were a large fav not a dog and won!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 8:40 PM ET #282

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Hammer Anaheim? They were a large fav not a dog and won!

    And they only won by one, so couldn't have covered a +170 puckline. (If that was the bet and if that was the PL number, idk.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Hammer Anaheim? They were a large fav not a dog and won!

    And they only won by one, so couldn't have covered a +170 puckline. (If that was the bet and if that was the PL number, idk.)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 9:24 PM ET #283

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch1976:

    Waiting for the top dog to lose, say 4 or 5 in a row, and then starting the chase might be a lot easier on the bankroll.

     


    This is probably the best idea.  Even with waiting, there will still be plenty of chances to make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch1976:

    Waiting for the top dog to lose, say 4 or 5 in a row, and then starting the chase might be a lot easier on the bankroll.

     


    This is probably the best idea.  Even with waiting, there will still be plenty of chances to make money.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2013 - 10:58 AM ET #284

    are we on game 9 tonite with Calgary @ San Jose?
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    are we on game 9 tonite with Calgary @ San Jose?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2013 - 5:43 PM ET #285

    10/11 GM1 NYI +165 (1 unit) = LOSS
    10/12 GM2 BUFF+222 (2 units) = LOSS
    10/13 GM3 FLA +130 (3 units) = LOSS
    10/14 GM4 EDM +154 (4 units) = LOSS  ***could have been DET +152 (which won) but the system says TOP DOG at close, so I am using EDM +154.

    10/15 GM5 EDM +222 (5 units) = LOSS
    10/16 GM6 CAL +183 (6 units) = LOSS
    10/17 GM7 FLA +156 (7 units) = LOSS
    10/18 GM8 PHO +128 (8 units) = LOSS
    10/19 GM9 CAL +231 (9 units) = LOSS
    10/20 GM10 DAL +201 (10 units) = LOSS

    10/21 GM11 CAL +188 (11 units).....pending







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    10/11 GM1 NYI +165 (1 unit) = LOSS
    10/12 GM2 BUFF+222 (2 units) = LOSS
    10/13 GM3 FLA +130 (3 units) = LOSS
    10/14 GM4 EDM +154 (4 units) = LOSS  ***could have been DET +152 (which won) but the system says TOP DOG at close, so I am using EDM +154.

    10/15 GM5 EDM +222 (5 units) = LOSS
    10/16 GM6 CAL +183 (6 units) = LOSS
    10/17 GM7 FLA +156 (7 units) = LOSS
    10/18 GM8 PHO +128 (8 units) = LOSS
    10/19 GM9 CAL +231 (9 units) = LOSS
    10/20 GM10 DAL +201 (10 units) = LOSS

    10/21 GM11 CAL +188 (11 units).....pending







     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2013 - 5:45 PM ET #286

    Man, this is the longest L streak I have ever seen!
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    Man, this is the longest L streak I have ever seen!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2013 - 6:41 PM ET #287

    This can't be a winning system. If Cal wins tonight you only make less than half your loses. (When adding one unit per loss)

    Smallest dog might work. Looks like tonight would be Detroit +114..(I'm a sucker for a home dog anyway.)

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    This can't be a winning system. If Cal wins tonight you only make less than half your loses. (When adding one unit per loss)

    Smallest dog might work. Looks like tonight would be Detroit +114..(I'm a sucker for a home dog anyway.)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2013 - 6:52 PM ET #288

    Using Cover's past lines (Don't know how they match up to live lines at closing) and my fingers to keep count..Since Oct. 1st, the smallest dog lost 4 in a row and 3 in a row.

    Maybe wait for the smallest dog to lose 2 in a row and then start a chase.

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    Using Cover's past lines (Don't know how they match up to live lines at closing) and my fingers to keep count..Since Oct. 1st, the smallest dog lost 4 in a row and 3 in a row.

    Maybe wait for the smallest dog to lose 2 in a row and then start a chase.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2013 - 7:27 PM ET #289

    I am just tracking to see how far this goes...hypothetically it could go on forever but according to the past few years, it should end very soon - and I would like to be there to HAMMER it.
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    I am just tracking to see how far this goes...hypothetically it could go on forever but according to the past few years, it should end very soon - and I would like to be there to HAMMER it.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2013 - 7:31 PM ET #290

    GM11 at +200 seems really juicy...but this could go on forever.

    ...someone talk me off this cliff!!!! 
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    GM11 at +200 seems really juicy...but this could go on forever.

    ...someone talk me off this cliff!!!! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2013 - 8:01 PM ET #291

    darn it...

    203905632-110/21/13 7:59pm$25.00$109.00Pending10/21/13 10:35pm  NHL Hockey  5 Calgary Flames -1 +436* vs Los Angeles Kings 
    203905632-210/21/13 7:59pm$25.00$48.75Pending10/21/13 10:35pm  NHL Hockey  5 Calgary Flames +195* vs Los Angeles Kings 
    203905632-310/21/13 7:59pm$25.00$78.25Pending10/21/13 10:35pm  NHL Hockey  5 Calgary Flames (1st 60 min) -½ +313* vs Los Angeles Kings (1st 60 min) 
    203905632-410/21/13 7:59pm$25.00$57.50Pending10/21/13 10:35pm  NHL Hockey  5 Calgary Flames (1st 60 min) +230* vs Los Angeles Kings (1st 60 min) 

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    darn it...

    203905632-110/21/13 7:59pm$25.00$109.00Pending10/21/13 10:35pm  NHL Hockey  5 Calgary Flames -1 +436* vs Los Angeles Kings 
    203905632-210/21/13 7:59pm$25.00$48.75Pending10/21/13 10:35pm  NHL Hockey  5 Calgary Flames +195* vs Los Angeles Kings 
    203905632-310/21/13 7:59pm$25.00$78.25Pending10/21/13 10:35pm  NHL Hockey  5 Calgary Flames (1st 60 min) -½ +313* vs Los Angeles Kings (1st 60 min) 
    203905632-410/21/13 7:59pm$25.00$57.50Pending10/21/13 10:35pm  NHL Hockey  5 Calgary Flames (1st 60 min) +230* vs Los Angeles Kings (1st 60 min) 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2013 - 8:03 PM ET #292

    $100 to win $293.50
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    $100 to win $293.50
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2013 - 2:06 AM ET #293

    *10/10 through 10/20 record: 4-14 (55 units lost - 8.27 units already won = -46.73 units)




    GM11 CAL +214 (11 units = 23.54 units)


    10/23 updated record (following today's win): 5-14 (-23.19 units)
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    *10/10 through 10/20 record: 4-14 (55 units lost - 8.27 units already won = -46.73 units)




    GM11 CAL +214 (11 units = 23.54 units)


    10/23 updated record (following today's win): 5-14 (-23.19 units)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2013 - 7:49 PM ET #294

    Season: 5-14 (-23.19 units)

    GM1 CAL +185 (1 unit to win 1.85 units)

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    Season: 5-14 (-23.19 units)

    GM1 CAL +185 (1 unit to win 1.85 units)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2013 - 6:49 PM ET #295

    Season: 5-15 (-24.19 units)

    GM2 BUF +147 (2 units to win 2.94 units)
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    Season: 5-15 (-24.19 units)

    GM2 BUF +147 (2 units to win 2.94 units)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2013 - 2:16 PM ET #296

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachine22:

    Season: 5-15 (-24.19 units)

    GM2 BUF +147 (2 units to win 2.94 units)



    ...I will post tonight's game after all lines close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachine22:

    Season: 5-15 (-24.19 units)

    GM2 BUF +147 (2 units to win 2.94 units)



    ...I will post tonight's game after all lines close.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2013 - 11:22 AM ET #297

    Season: 5-16 (-26.19 units)
    GM3 PHO +141 (3 units)




    GM4 looks like NYI +179 (4 units) - but there are a few close dogs...I will post after close.
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    Season: 5-16 (-26.19 units)
    GM3 PHO +141 (3 units)




    GM4 looks like NYI +179 (4 units) - but there are a few close dogs...I will post after close.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2013 - 11:24 AM ET #298

    My units are all messed up...and since I'm not actually betting every game here, I am done posting units.
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    My units are all messed up...and since I'm not actually betting every game here, I am done posting units.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2013 - 6:34 PM ET #299

    Largest DOG On the night is actually Carolina (+193) currently ... Where you getting the odds big guy ? Good luck tonight !!
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    Largest DOG On the night is actually Carolina (+193) currently ... Where you getting the odds big guy ? Good luck tonight !!
     
     
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    GM4 (Friday) ended up being CAR +196 (4 units)

    GM5 (Saturday) BUF +201 (5 units)


    After just looking at the past couple weeks results - I'm pretty sure we should be taking the TOP DOG when the lines OPEN...not close.  Much easier to see what team opened the highest vs at close.  Often, I find the late game lines changing after the early game(s) start.

    Anyone want to back test this for a few seasons?
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    GM4 (Friday) ended up being CAR +196 (4 units)

    GM5 (Saturday) BUF +201 (5 units)


    After just looking at the past couple weeks results - I'm pretty sure we should be taking the TOP DOG when the lines OPEN...not close.  Much easier to see what team opened the highest vs at close.  Often, I find the late game lines changing after the early game(s) start.

    Anyone want to back test this for a few seasons?
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