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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 9:39 AM ET #76

    Harvard was banned here so I think he is still checking though.

    Whatever.  I thought you guys didn't know that he was here.

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    Harvard was banned here so I think he is still checking though.

    Whatever.  I thought you guys didn't know that he was here.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 9:40 AM ET #77

    It seems everyone on the Rx thread is bashing because of that Golden State 3Q loss.  At first I thought it was take the biggest road favorite and play this system, and I still believe that.  I was a little skeptical that the play was on the home team last night.  Now I see why.   
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    It seems everyone on the Rx thread is bashing because of that Golden State 3Q loss.  At first I thought it was take the biggest road favorite and play this system, and I still believe that.  I was a little skeptical that the play was on the home team last night.  Now I see why.   
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 9:59 AM ET #78

    Why the hell would you bet GS if this "system" is considered for only the top teams?

    I think some guys need action and force plays.

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    Why the hell would you bet GS if this "system" is considered for only the top teams?

    I think some guys need action and force plays.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 10:48 AM ET #79

    The Warriors play made no sense and we noticed it last night.

    I am not sure why he was on it?

    And yeah, it's amazing how quick a crowd can turn on you.

    Maybe, we should track the biggest road favorite separately in another thread to see how it does? 

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    The Warriors play made no sense and we noticed it last night.

    I am not sure why he was on it?

    And yeah, it's amazing how quick a crowd can turn on you.

    Maybe, we should track the biggest road favorite separately in another thread to see how it does? 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 10:55 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    The Warriors play made no sense and we noticed it last night.

    I am not sure why he was on it?

    And yeah, it's amazing how quick a crowd can turn on you.

    Maybe, we should track the biggest road favorite separately in another thread to see how it does? 



    Yeah that sounds like a good idea. I have been following you guys and I feel this system has the potential to make massive amounts of money if we can just figure out how to pick the plays. And with some of covers heavy hitters already on it, I believe its only a matter of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    The Warriors play made no sense and we noticed it last night.

    I am not sure why he was on it?

    And yeah, it's amazing how quick a crowd can turn on you.

    Maybe, we should track the biggest road favorite separately in another thread to see how it does? 



    Yeah that sounds like a good idea. I have been following you guys and I feel this system has the potential to make massive amounts of money if we can just figure out how to pick the plays. And with some of covers heavy hitters already on it, I believe its only a matter of time.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 11:50 AM ET #81

    When you going to start the thread Matt?

     

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    When you going to start the thread Matt?

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 11:51 AM ET #82

    When you going to start the thread Matt?

     

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    When you going to start the thread Matt?

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 12:05 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by usakangy:

    It seems everyone on the Rx thread is bashing because of that Golden State 3Q loss.  At first I thought it was take the biggest road favorite and play this system, and I still believe that.  I was a little skeptical that the play was on the home team last night.  Now I see why.   




    Yeah Kangy............ One wrong turn and the bottom feeders are quick to hate like white on rice
       Rx............
    There's a little more than a few good men over there which I respect but most of all the youngbucks ruin everything
    Boo - hoo if there's a loss / can't win 'em all
    At least it was only some 3 units or so without the juice
    Don't exactly know cause I'm not on it yet - giving it time to get its feet wet
    You guys will get it back - no sweat
    Its a # 's game - well at least we know that
    Right call mat4g's............
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    Quote Originally Posted by usakangy:

    It seems everyone on the Rx thread is bashing because of that Golden State 3Q loss.  At first I thought it was take the biggest road favorite and play this system, and I still believe that.  I was a little skeptical that the play was on the home team last night.  Now I see why.   




    Yeah Kangy............ One wrong turn and the bottom feeders are quick to hate like white on rice
       Rx............
    There's a little more than a few good men over there which I respect but most of all the youngbucks ruin everything
    Boo - hoo if there's a loss / can't win 'em all
    At least it was only some 3 units or so without the juice
    Don't exactly know cause I'm not on it yet - giving it time to get its feet wet
    You guys will get it back - no sweat
    Its a # 's game - well at least we know that
    Right call mat4g's............
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 12:14 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinko:

    When you going to start the thread Matt?

     

    Looks like someone has delegated you Matt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinko:

    When you going to start the thread Matt?

     

    Looks like someone has delegated you Matt
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 2:17 PM ET #85

    I am not around enough to post the plays, since I work out of town and I am not around a computer.

    I will start the thread but I will need someone to post and track the plays.

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    I am not around enough to post the plays, since I work out of town and I am not around a computer.

    I will start the thread but I will need someone to post and track the plays.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 2:59 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    I am not around enough to post the plays, since I work out of town and I am not around a computer.

    I will start the thread but I will need someone to post and track the plays.



    I see you already started the topic.
    I can help track the plays, if that's cool with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt4000:

    I am not around enough to post the plays, since I work out of town and I am not around a computer.

    I will start the thread but I will need someone to post and track the plays.



    I see you already started the topic.
    I can help track the plays, if that's cool with you.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 3:56 PM ET #87

    Go for it Kevin2565!!!
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    Go for it Kevin2565!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 11:34 PM ET #88

    Hey Braddahs

    I've back tested this system and have checked using different filters.  This system comes out  68%- 85% depending on the criteria you use.  68% Home Faves, 74% Away Faves, 85% Home dogs.  As I was back testing I would look at a play that didn't hit and then determine why it didn't hit.  Then I put that down as a fade if it happened more often than not.

    I've made a manual spread sheet to be able to see trends with each teams.  One of the fade plays I saw would be Boston if they are favored by double digits.  I also saw that home teams favored by 1-2 points are a fade.  Another fade trend was AF giving 4-4.5 points.  Also, Home Faves getting more than 7.5+ points as a game spread is a fade.  All this data was from last years season.  I only backtested from October 08- January 09- There is ALOT  of data.

    One of the great things about the system is it is hitting at a high rate.  Usually, it'll hit on the 1Q or the 3Q but seldom will it hit both.  Great way to play the other side if you miss playing the 1Q.

    The problem is when you don't hit your 3Q bet.  Then you're down 3 units + juice.  If I can see trends as to which team doesn't hit at least one time, they would be a fade play.



    For plays today I hit:
    Toronto 1Q
    New York 3Q
    Sacramento 3Q
    Memphis 1Q

    Which also happens to be every game I played!

    If you look at each game, Toronto hit in the 1Q but not in the 3Q.
     
    New York lost in 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Sacramento lost 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Memphis hit 1Q and chances are they will not hit 3Q- so a good bet would be LAC 3Q. But LAC did lose both 1Q and 3Q as Home faves earlier this season.  That's why I went with Memphis instead of LAC as a play>> both would be a play with my criteria.  That's why I'm trending the games so I can get a better feel for who to pick.

    This system is the SH*T
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    Hey Braddahs

    I've back tested this system and have checked using different filters.  This system comes out  68%- 85% depending on the criteria you use.  68% Home Faves, 74% Away Faves, 85% Home dogs.  As I was back testing I would look at a play that didn't hit and then determine why it didn't hit.  Then I put that down as a fade if it happened more often than not.

    I've made a manual spread sheet to be able to see trends with each teams.  One of the fade plays I saw would be Boston if they are favored by double digits.  I also saw that home teams favored by 1-2 points are a fade.  Another fade trend was AF giving 4-4.5 points.  Also, Home Faves getting more than 7.5+ points as a game spread is a fade.  All this data was from last years season.  I only backtested from October 08- January 09- There is ALOT  of data.

    One of the great things about the system is it is hitting at a high rate.  Usually, it'll hit on the 1Q or the 3Q but seldom will it hit both.  Great way to play the other side if you miss playing the 1Q.

    The problem is when you don't hit your 3Q bet.  Then you're down 3 units + juice.  If I can see trends as to which team doesn't hit at least one time, they would be a fade play.



    For plays today I hit:
    Toronto 1Q
    New York 3Q
    Sacramento 3Q
    Memphis 1Q

    Which also happens to be every game I played!

    If you look at each game, Toronto hit in the 1Q but not in the 3Q.
     
    New York lost in 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Sacramento lost 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Memphis hit 1Q and chances are they will not hit 3Q- so a good bet would be LAC 3Q. But LAC did lose both 1Q and 3Q as Home faves earlier this season.  That's why I went with Memphis instead of LAC as a play>> both would be a play with my criteria.  That's why I'm trending the games so I can get a better feel for who to pick.

    This system is the SH*T
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2009 - 12:04 AM ET #89

    Thanks for the work hard8. Keep tracking this!

     

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    Thanks for the work hard8. Keep tracking this!

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hard8:

    Hey Braddahs

    I've back tested this system and have checked using different filters.  This system comes out  68%- 85% depending on the criteria you use.  68% Home Faves, 74% Away Faves, 85% Home dogs.  As I was back testing I would look at a play that didn't hit and then determine why it didn't hit.  Then I put that down as a fade if it happened more often than not.

    I've made a manual spread sheet to be able to see trends with each teams.  One of the fade plays I saw would be Boston if they are favored by double digits.  I also saw that home teams favored by 1-2 points are a fade.  Another fade trend was AF giving 4-4.5 points.  Also, Home Faves getting more than 7.5+ points as a game spread is a fade.  All this data was from last years season.  I only backtested from October 08- January 09- There is ALOT  of data.

    One of the great things about the system is it is hitting at a high rate.  Usually, it'll hit on the 1Q or the 3Q but seldom will it hit both.  Great way to play the other side if you miss playing the 1Q.

    The problem is when you don't hit your 3Q bet.  Then you're down 3 units + juice.  If I can see trends as to which team doesn't hit at least one time, they would be a fade play.



    For plays today I hit:
    Toronto 1Q
    New York 3Q
    Sacramento 3Q
    Memphis 1Q

    Which also happens to be every game I played!

    If you look at each game, Toronto hit in the 1Q but not in the 3Q.
     
    New York lost in 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Sacramento lost 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Memphis hit 1Q and chances are they will not hit 3Q- so a good bet would be LAC 3Q. But LAC did lose both 1Q and 3Q as Home faves earlier this season.  That's why I went with Memphis instead of LAC as a play>> both would be a play with my criteria.  That's why I'm trending the games so I can get a better feel for who to pick.

    This system is the SH*T



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    Quote Originally Posted by hard8:

    Hey Braddahs

    I've back tested this system and have checked using different filters.  This system comes out  68%- 85% depending on the criteria you use.  68% Home Faves, 74% Away Faves, 85% Home dogs.  As I was back testing I would look at a play that didn't hit and then determine why it didn't hit.  Then I put that down as a fade if it happened more often than not.

    I've made a manual spread sheet to be able to see trends with each teams.  One of the fade plays I saw would be Boston if they are favored by double digits.  I also saw that home teams favored by 1-2 points are a fade.  Another fade trend was AF giving 4-4.5 points.  Also, Home Faves getting more than 7.5+ points as a game spread is a fade.  All this data was from last years season.  I only backtested from October 08- January 09- There is ALOT  of data.

    One of the great things about the system is it is hitting at a high rate.  Usually, it'll hit on the 1Q or the 3Q but seldom will it hit both.  Great way to play the other side if you miss playing the 1Q.

    The problem is when you don't hit your 3Q bet.  Then you're down 3 units + juice.  If I can see trends as to which team doesn't hit at least one time, they would be a fade play.



    For plays today I hit:
    Toronto 1Q
    New York 3Q
    Sacramento 3Q
    Memphis 1Q

    Which also happens to be every game I played!

    If you look at each game, Toronto hit in the 1Q but not in the 3Q.
     
    New York lost in 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Sacramento lost 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Memphis hit 1Q and chances are they will not hit 3Q- so a good bet would be LAC 3Q. But LAC did lose both 1Q and 3Q as Home faves earlier this season.  That's why I went with Memphis instead of LAC as a play>> both would be a play with my criteria.  That's why I'm trending the games so I can get a better feel for who to pick.

    This system is the SH*T



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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2009 - 3:15 PM ET #91

    My plays todays:

    Detroit -1/2

    Wash pk

    Orlando -1 1/2

    Minn +4

    New Orleans +2 1/2

    So far I hit

    Detroit -1/2

    Wash pk

    Then I played opposite and picked Phoenix 3Q

    Philadelphia also hit as an opposite pick in 3Q -
    -no play for me though cuz Phil lost both bets the last 2 games.

    Let's see how the rest turns out


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    My plays todays:

    Detroit -1/2

    Wash pk

    Orlando -1 1/2

    Minn +4

    New Orleans +2 1/2

    So far I hit

    Detroit -1/2

    Wash pk

    Then I played opposite and picked Phoenix 3Q

    Philadelphia also hit as an opposite pick in 3Q -
    -no play for me though cuz Phil lost both bets the last 2 games.

    Let's see how the rest turns out


     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2009 - 9:13 PM ET #93

    Orlando hit at -1 1/2

    then I took OKC in the 3Q  +3

    YTD (yesterday to today) 9-0
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    then I took OKC in the 3Q  +3

    YTD (yesterday to today) 9-0
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2009 - 10:28 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by hard8:

    Hey Braddahs

    I've back tested this system and have checked using different filters.  This system comes out  68%- 85% depending on the criteria you use.  68% Home Faves, 74% Away Faves, 85% Home dogs.  As I was back testing I would look at a play that didn't hit and then determine why it didn't hit.  Then I put that down as a fade if it happened more often than not.

    I've made a manual spread sheet to be able to see trends with each teams.  One of the fade plays I saw would be Boston if they are favored by double digits.  I also saw that home teams favored by 1-2 points are a fade.  Another fade trend was AF giving 4-4.5 points.  Also, Home Faves getting more than 7.5+ points as a game spread is a fade.  All this data was from last years season.  I only backtested from October 08- January 09- There is ALOT  of data.

    One of the great things about the system is it is hitting at a high rate.  Usually, it'll hit on the 1Q or the 3Q but seldom will it hit both.  Great way to play the other side if you miss playing the 1Q.

    The problem is when you don't hit your 3Q bet.  Then you're down 3 units + juice.  If I can see trends as to which team doesn't hit at least one time, they would be a fade play.



    For plays today I hit:
    Toronto 1Q
    New York 3Q
    Sacramento 3Q
    Memphis 1Q

    Which also happens to be every game I played!

    If you look at each game, Toronto hit in the 1Q but not in the 3Q.
     
    New York lost in 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Sacramento lost 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Memphis hit 1Q and chances are they will not hit 3Q- so a good bet would be LAC 3Q. But LAC did lose both 1Q and 3Q as Home faves earlier this season.  That's why I went with Memphis instead of LAC as a play>> both would be a play with my criteria.  That's why I'm trending the games so I can get a better feel for who to pick.

    This system is the SH*T


    NICE!!! after back testing the away favs It did not look so great. Glad you found a way for it to work. I'll still be keeping records on road favs on the other topic.
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    Hey Braddahs

    I've back tested this system and have checked using different filters.  This system comes out  68%- 85% depending on the criteria you use.  68% Home Faves, 74% Away Faves, 85% Home dogs.  As I was back testing I would look at a play that didn't hit and then determine why it didn't hit.  Then I put that down as a fade if it happened more often than not.

    I've made a manual spread sheet to be able to see trends with each teams.  One of the fade plays I saw would be Boston if they are favored by double digits.  I also saw that home teams favored by 1-2 points are a fade.  Another fade trend was AF giving 4-4.5 points.  Also, Home Faves getting more than 7.5+ points as a game spread is a fade.  All this data was from last years season.  I only backtested from October 08- January 09- There is ALOT  of data.

    One of the great things about the system is it is hitting at a high rate.  Usually, it'll hit on the 1Q or the 3Q but seldom will it hit both.  Great way to play the other side if you miss playing the 1Q.

    The problem is when you don't hit your 3Q bet.  Then you're down 3 units + juice.  If I can see trends as to which team doesn't hit at least one time, they would be a fade play.



    For plays today I hit:
    Toronto 1Q
    New York 3Q
    Sacramento 3Q
    Memphis 1Q

    Which also happens to be every game I played!

    If you look at each game, Toronto hit in the 1Q but not in the 3Q.
     
    New York lost in 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Sacramento lost 1Q but hit 3Q. 

    Memphis hit 1Q and chances are they will not hit 3Q- so a good bet would be LAC 3Q. But LAC did lose both 1Q and 3Q as Home faves earlier this season.  That's why I went with Memphis instead of LAC as a play>> both would be a play with my criteria.  That's why I'm trending the games so I can get a better feel for who to pick.

    This system is the SH*T


    NICE!!! after back testing the away favs It did not look so great. Glad you found a way for it to work. I'll still be keeping records on road favs on the other topic.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2009 - 1:25 PM ET #95

    Kevin,
    So far this year the home teams are .  It doesn't matter if they are faves or dogs.  Check out my thread "Hard8's Hot Nba Trends".  I've listed the parameters of what I consider a play.  This won't get 100%, but it should hit high 80's.  Of course, this is all a work in progress, but if we can limit the amount of losses then we can make some . 

    Get back to me if you have any suggestions.

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    Kevin,
    So far this year the home teams are .  It doesn't matter if they are faves or dogs.  Check out my thread "Hard8's Hot Nba Trends".  I've listed the parameters of what I consider a play.  This won't get 100%, but it should hit high 80's.  Of course, this is all a work in progress, but if we can limit the amount of losses then we can make some . 

    Get back to me if you have any suggestions.

    Aloha
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2009 - 3:37 PM ET #96

    so do you play the opposite of your winners in the 1st quarter also?
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    so do you play the opposite of your winners in the 1st quarter also?
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