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    The Testing Phase For 1 Halfs in NBA

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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2010 - 3:19 PM ET #1

    Guys i can tell you how this works so just stay tight and enjoy the ride, last 3 weeks hiting at 72%, astonishing I know but works most of the time, anyways i will be updating this thread for am while.

    Feb 17 th

    1H SA/Ind U 103

    1H O 95 Det/Orl

    1H U 110 Mem/Tor

    1H O 103 Minn/Wash

    1H U 95 Mia/NJ

    1H O 101.5 Chic/NY

    1H O 100 Utah/NO

    1H O 113 Sac/GS

    1H U 99.5 Atl/LAC

    the other games do not fit the system good luck everybody

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Guys i can tell you how this works so just stay tight and enjoy the ride, last 3 weeks hiting at 72%, astonishing I know but works most of the time, anyways i will be updating this thread for am while.

    Feb 17 th

    1H SA/Ind U 103

    1H O 95 Det/Orl

    1H U 110 Mem/Tor

    1H O 103 Minn/Wash

    1H U 95 Mia/NJ

    1H O 101.5 Chic/NY

    1H O 100 Utah/NO

    1H O 113 Sac/GS

    1H U 99.5 Atl/LAC

    the other games do not fit the system good luck everybody

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2010 - 3:49 PM ET #2

    What the system consists of is averages scores of opponents  and points scored. Hope this helps
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    What the system consists of is averages scores of opponents  and points scored. Hope this helps
     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2010 - 6:31 PM ET #3

    GL bro will be monitoring how the results come out
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    GL bro will be monitoring how the results come out
     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2010 - 7:13 PM ET #4

    just for fun can you give an example on what figures you use or give a live example?

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    just for fun can you give an example on what figures you use or give a live example?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 1:27 AM ET #5

    Well looks like the testing is going well 6-3 to start , missing 1 by a point and 1 by a half a point,see how tomorrow goes, once again in the testing phase
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    Well looks like the testing is going well 6-3 to start , missing 1 by a point and 1 by a half a point,see how tomorrow goes, once again in the testing phase
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 1:29 AM ET #6

    jakeandba i use opponents average points of past 5 games and  the home teams average points all year, hope this helps
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    jakeandba i use opponents average points of past 5 games and  the home teams average points all year, hope this helps
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 2:49 AM ET #7

    then what divide it in half to get the first halfs totals?
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    then what divide it in half to get the first halfs totals?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 8:34 AM ET #8

    thanks for the reply.  last night there were 11 games but 9 were listed as pick. Are there any rules that will disqualify plays after making the calulations?
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    thanks for the reply.  last night there were 11 games but 9 were listed as pick. Are there any rules that will disqualify plays after making the calulations?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 12:52 PM ET #9

    yes rob walton, jakeandba becuase the number i got last 5 games and the home games for the year was above and below the 1st half line, there fore not making it a play, hope this helps you to understand
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    yes rob walton, jakeandba becuase the number i got last 5 games and the home games for the year was above and below the 1st half line, there fore not making it a play, hope this helps you to understand
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 2:33 PM ET #10

    Record 6-3  so far, i have back tested this and have gotten awsome results in the 70% range like last night proving ti you it can hit pretty close to 70%, if you do the math it was 66% last night with 1 losing by 1 point and 1 loosing by a half

    Feb 18

    1H Denv/Clev O 105

    1H Bost/LAL O 95

     

    GL Everyone

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    Record 6-3  so far, i have back tested this and have gotten awsome results in the 70% range like last night proving ti you it can hit pretty close to 70%, if you do the math it was 66% last night with 1 losing by 1 point and 1 loosing by a half

    Feb 18

    1H Denv/Clev O 105

    1H Bost/LAL O 95

     

    GL Everyone

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 6:25 PM ET #11

    ok can you confirm the calulations are correct.

    Denver:

    last 5 game totals = 548

    divide 548 by 5= 109.6

    divide 109.6 by 2=  54.8

    Clev:

    Home total avg points per game is101.61

    divide 101.61 by 2=50.8

    if you round up then it would be 55 plus 51 = 106.

    The over/under is set at 104.5

    if this is correct i understand who the calulations are done 

    Please give an example of a game that does not fit the "rules" and is considered not a play

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    ok can you confirm the calulations are correct.

    Denver:

    last 5 game totals = 548

    divide 548 by 5= 109.6

    divide 109.6 by 2=  54.8

    Clev:

    Home total avg points per game is101.61

    divide 101.61 by 2=50.8

    if you round up then it would be 55 plus 51 = 106.

    The over/under is set at 104.5

    if this is correct i understand who the calulations are done 

    Please give an example of a game that does not fit the "rules" and is considered not a play

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 6:49 PM ET #12

    yes jakeandba, instead of home games all year you take home last 5 also if it has conflict, thats when you need to avoid the game
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    yes jakeandba, instead of home games all year you take home last 5 also if it has conflict, thats when you need to avoid the game
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 6:51 PM ET #13

    heres an example

    Phoenix/Dallas line was 108.5 form Feb 17

    1H O (111.4L5)     1H  (101.2 HG)

    hope this helps

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    heres an example

    Phoenix/Dallas line was 108.5 form Feb 17

    1H O (111.4L5)     1H  (101.2 HG)

    hope this helps

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 9:27 PM ET #14

    ok please forgive me but i am slow.  for the dallas phoe game this is what i got.

    Half time line for dallas phoenix was 109.5

    dallas last five games were: 108, 110, 112, 108, 99 = 537 total for 5 home game divide by 5 = 107.4

    Phoenix last 5 away game were: 109, 114, 109, 109, 115 = 556 total for last 5 away games divide by 5= 111.2

    so b.c phoenix was at 111.2 and dallas was at 107.4 with the line being 108.5 then no bet.

     

    If this is correct amended totals for the denver vs clev game:  The half time line was 104.5

    Denver: last 5 away games 106, 126, 103, 84, 97 = 516 /2 = 103.2 is average total points per game

    Clev: last 5 home games 115, 104, 113, 102, 105 = 539 /2= 107.5 is average total points per game

    Then with one fig, the visitor total below the total of 104.5 and the home total is above 104.5 then is this a conflict?  and not been a bet?

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    ok please forgive me but i am slow.  for the dallas phoe game this is what i got.

    Half time line for dallas phoenix was 109.5

    dallas last five games were: 108, 110, 112, 108, 99 = 537 total for 5 home game divide by 5 = 107.4

    Phoenix last 5 away game were: 109, 114, 109, 109, 115 = 556 total for last 5 away games divide by 5= 111.2

    so b.c phoenix was at 111.2 and dallas was at 107.4 with the line being 108.5 then no bet.

     

    If this is correct amended totals for the denver vs clev game:  The half time line was 104.5

    Denver: last 5 away games 106, 126, 103, 84, 97 = 516 /2 = 103.2 is average total points per game

    Clev: last 5 home games 115, 104, 113, 102, 105 = 539 /2= 107.5 is average total points per game

    Then with one fig, the visitor total below the total of 104.5 and the home total is above 104.5 then is this a conflict?  and not been a bet?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 10:38 PM ET #15

    jake I made that mistake, i am glad you caught that in a hurry today, you are absolutely correct, only thing you need to take clevelands average home games for the season,and if it correlates in between the 1h line

    so thanks for catching that mistake

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    jake I made that mistake, i am glad you caught that in a hurry today, you are absolutely correct, only thing you need to take clevelands average home games for the season,and if it correlates in between the 1h line

    so thanks for catching that mistake

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 10:59 PM ET #16

    Ok no problem, then based on the fig for the season long home pts scored and the last 5 away games for den:

    denver vs clev game:  The half time line was 104.5

    Denver: last 5 away games 106, 126, 103, 84, 97 = 516 /2 = 103.2 is average total points per game

    Clev:

    Home total avg points per game is101.61

    Then if i am understanding then, the play would have been on the under for the Clev/Den game tonight

     

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    Ok no problem, then based on the fig for the season long home pts scored and the last 5 away games for den:

    denver vs clev game:  The half time line was 104.5

    Denver: last 5 away games 106, 126, 103, 84, 97 = 516 /2 = 103.2 is average total points per game

    Clev:

    Home total avg points per game is101.61

    Then if i am understanding then, the play would have been on the under for the Clev/Den game tonight

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 11:22 PM ET #17

    sorry i ment the opponents averages scored its confusing to say the least, hope this helps
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    sorry i ment the opponents averages scored its confusing to say the least, hope this helps
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 11:31 PM ET #18

    ok Jake here is an example

    Boston vs LAL tonight

    Bostons last 5 opponents games were 48.2 average of the 1st half

    LA Lakers home games averges of the season of the 1half were 47.4

    ok now take last 5 games if it is larger or smaller than the 1h line it would conflict, tonights number for last 5 games is 49.2, therefore it does not matter making it go over 1 half hope this helps

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    ok Jake here is an example

    Boston vs LAL tonight

    Bostons last 5 opponents games were 48.2 average of the 1st half

    LA Lakers home games averges of the season of the 1half were 47.4

    ok now take last 5 games if it is larger or smaller than the 1h line it would conflict, tonights number for last 5 games is 49.2, therefore it does not matter making it go over 1 half hope this helps

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 11:32 PM ET #19

    thats LALakers opponent averages not  there points scored, always do opponents points avaerges on home and road
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    thats LALakers opponent averages not  there points scored, always do opponents points avaerges on home and road
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2010 - 11:43 PM ET #20

    yeah you are correct, i am very confused.  is there a way you can go step by step including the figures that was used like i did above, please?  If you can use the cleveland/ denver game since i have those figures in front of me.

    This will help me understand not only the math involved but also the complete method so i can get it right.

     

    Thanks again for the help

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    yeah you are correct, i am very confused.  is there a way you can go step by step including the figures that was used like i did above, please?  If you can use the cleveland/ denver game since i have those figures in front of me.

    This will help me understand not only the math involved but also the complete method so i can get it right.

     

    Thanks again for the help

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 12:16 AM ET #21

    ok jake here  is an example of Cleveland/Denver 1H

    Denver last 5 opponent games at 1h is 56.6

    Cleveland home games opponent averages through out the season is 48.9

    Clevelands last 5 games opponents averages are 51

    so  56.8 +48.9= 105.7 so there last 5 games opponents is even higher should of been over, i seen Shaq mised like 4 lay ups, so 8 points on to 98 would of made it closer, hope this helps again

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    ok jake here  is an example of Cleveland/Denver 1H

    Denver last 5 opponent games at 1h is 56.6

    Cleveland home games opponent averages through out the season is 48.9

    Clevelands last 5 games opponents averages are 51

    so  56.8 +48.9= 105.7 so there last 5 games opponents is even higher should of been over, i seen Shaq mised like 4 lay ups, so 8 points on to 98 would of made it closer, hope this helps again

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 1:21 AM ET #22

    ok we are making progress.  i finally got the clev last 5 figures to match.  had to go back to each game and wrote down the opponents half time scores:

    date   oppen half time score

    2-11  63

    2-9    49

    2-6   54

    2-4 52

    2-2  37

    total is 255 the divide by 5 = 51  that is great.  The problem was i was taking the avg final score and dividing 5 last home games by 2, this gave me a wrong half time score. but i have fixed that

    Now having a problem matching the clev home game oppon avg, according to nba,com clev opp points per game is 94.2 the divide by 2 = 47.1.   this has to be the wrong stat since A: if does not match your figure of 48.9.  I dont have the avg half time oppon points per game and you cant just cut the total points per game in half since it give wrong info.

     

    Finally Denver last 5 road oppents.....went back to the last 5 road games which start on 1-27 and end on 2-6 figures are the oppon scored 51, 51, 41, 66, 54.  the total is 263 divide by 5 get an avg of 52.6.

    now if i took just the last 5 oppent for denver regardless of road or home game, from 2-3 to 2-11.  The half time oppen scores are 60, 54, 66, 39, 54.  the total is 273 then divide by 5 = 54.6

     

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    ok we are making progress.  i finally got the clev last 5 figures to match.  had to go back to each game and wrote down the opponents half time scores:

    date   oppen half time score

    2-11  63

    2-9    49

    2-6   54

    2-4 52

    2-2  37

    total is 255 the divide by 5 = 51  that is great.  The problem was i was taking the avg final score and dividing 5 last home games by 2, this gave me a wrong half time score. but i have fixed that

    Now having a problem matching the clev home game oppon avg, according to nba,com clev opp points per game is 94.2 the divide by 2 = 47.1.   this has to be the wrong stat since A: if does not match your figure of 48.9.  I dont have the avg half time oppon points per game and you cant just cut the total points per game in half since it give wrong info.

     

    Finally Denver last 5 road oppents.....went back to the last 5 road games which start on 1-27 and end on 2-6 figures are the oppon scored 51, 51, 41, 66, 54.  the total is 263 divide by 5 get an avg of 52.6.

    now if i took just the last 5 oppent for denver regardless of road or home game, from 2-3 to 2-11.  The half time oppen scores are 60, 54, 66, 39, 54.  the total is 273 then divide by 5 = 54.6

     

     
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    now jake you have 54.6, which is the AVERAGE TEAM SCORE for Denver not OPPONENTS average halftime score.

    You cannot use full game score for opponents and divide by 2, because some teams score more 1h than another, so the CLEVELAND average halftime opponents score is 48.9

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    now jake you have 54.6, which is the AVERAGE TEAM SCORE for Denver not OPPONENTS average halftime score.

    You cannot use full game score for opponents and divide by 2, because some teams score more 1h than another, so the CLEVELAND average halftime opponents score is 48.9

     
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    Awesome so for the home opp avg half time score for any nba team, is there a web site which has this information or do I have to go to through out each home game per team and get the average? 

    Either way, once the per team home opp avg half time score is calulated, then 2 out 3 stats I can understand.

     

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    Awesome so for the home opp avg half time score for any nba team, is there a web site which has this information or do I have to go to through out each home game per team and get the average? 

    Either way, once the per team home opp avg half time score is calulated, then 2 out 3 stats I can understand.

     

     
     
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    Sorry jake for confusing you, but yes that the disadvantage, you have to manually do that everytime. Back to the system were are now at 7-4, manageable for a profit.

    Back with todays games later

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    Sorry jake for confusing you, but yes that the disadvantage, you have to manually do that everytime. Back to the system were are now at 7-4, manageable for a profit.

    Back with todays games later

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