POLL: What Would You Do..?

Ok I just got home from work,  well my first day with sportvestment 3-1  Oakland -210, cin-137, Atlanta-137 and boston the only loss -195 Im starting small like he suggested, but I wiil use my on money  management.    Post   #62 Lin70   is also with him.  I have never had a good exsperince with a tout service. I hope this one works.

My Sport handingcapping skills are even worse than my spelling .my only hope to get my money back is tailing some one or a good sport service.

The guy that runs the show there is FRIZ. all 4 games where released at the same time mon. about 1hr. befor first game. you get the picks by logging in to a secured part of his website. He lets you know the day befor about what time the picks will be there.  atleast he did yesterday and tonight. I hope this helps good luck guys.

Thanks.  Does he tell you what % to bet on?  Other then the picks, the big question is how much per game.  If he doesn't then he could say the losers were 1% and the winner was 5% so a profit for the day.

Their record is accurate since i joined July 26.I hate their betting style however.A late season slump and you wipe out a huge part of your winnings.If they continue to hit at this rate flat betting or labby would be better.

Does anyone know how long their site has been up?I`ve used touts for years and i just heard about these guys ten days ago.

his site been up around  a  month.

So does he post the %'s with the plays or not?

Yes he does give recommeded % wgaer 0f bank roll of 2,000. any where from 1%-5% Im simply just going to turn that in to unit size . 2% of bank roll 2units,   my unit size will start small and will be close to the % size that  he gives.

No need to post anything eveybody here knows the website . I dont think we will ever be able to verify the other 9yrs and7mon. of  sportvestments  picks . The mysterious  Mr. fritz

I guess we jinxed target_9. He has gone like 0fer alot in the last 3 days. Probably lost near 40 units in 3 days. Ouch.

 

There are some discussions in sbr forum about sportvestments. nobody has heard of them some guy was pushing the service .he got called out i think he might work for sportvestments chk out          linedrivr sbr  forum

Oh well im already in have to ride it out.Gl

Target has had a terrible 2nd Half so far. After an unreal 1st Half, and no proven track record other than that 1st Half, it is inevitable that he will come back to earth now.
He's made some good picks, but his Unit Management seems absolutely horrible.

Did anyone buy the service of Odd Tracker and Odd Track Plus on Covers?Did it really work?

I was pretty pissed off last night. Put the money on Pinnacle and was ready to go, but after I have finally figured out how I want to play the next couple weeks I realized I can't!!

I decided I was going to play smitler's 1st Inning System, but only the original version. All these other versions he's rolled out are silly and just taking up space and confusing people. The beauty of Version 1 is you're playing all + lines, so I don't understand why V.2.0 was created.. seemed like more of a panic reaction to a bad day than anything else.

So I had that Game Plan all mapped out for Unit Size and everything, then I realize Pinnacle doesn't offer the 1st Inning Prop! If I am mistaken on this, someone please tell me where I can find it. I don't see anything for MLB Props whatsoever! I emailed them as well, and am awaiting a response.

If they do not offer this, then I will load up my 5Dimes account so I can play this. The odds aren't quite as good there, but at least they can accommodate what I want.


The other part of my Game Plan is to play Hitman's Alternate Runlines plays. I've always loved Alternate Lines play and the great +lines means I won't have to risk as much to get what I want.

So everything is mapped out now, it's just a matter of getting my money to a place which can accommodate me!

Christ we're getting a mini-hurricane with thunder and lightning at 2pm in the afternoon.. what a miserable day!!

Cheers 

Good Luck jkp. I hope you make a small fortune!

The reason I decided not to go this route is due to looking at his past picks. He very, very rarely plays Dogs and a lot of the Favorites are really high juice.
If I wanted to play juicy favorites I would just stick to a System like Rizz's. This is something I am trying to get away from.

Keep us updated every so often on how you're doing, if you can!

Cheers 

Just received email from Pinnacle saying they do not offer daily props. That blows..

Just pulled my money from that account and will head to Western Union to deposit into 5Dimes later today or tomorrow.

This is the 1st time Pinnacle has ever let me down about anything

Use bet365 they have it all...

Just  checked them out.. really like their layout and looks like they have everything you could ever possibly want.

However, they also have a poor rating with the biggest complaint being when people start winning a lot they lock their account. ID is asked for, to confirm identity, then when ID is confirmed accounts are still locked with no reason given as to why.


I just had an unsatisfactory Live Chat conversation with some Daniel from 5Dimes.. he even asked me to confirm my password, and I asked "why do you need my password?" an he said "it's an habitual requirement".

Then I said nothing and about a minute later he answered the question I had asked when the chat opened. Then I asked him a couple more and he answered. What the fuck is that all about?!?

Today, has NOT been fun so far..

I figured out how Sportvetsments cooks the books... turns out it is too good to be true.

If you look at his records, the bets made on one day use profits accumulated from that same day when it's physically impossible. Any money won is put towards the next winning plays, but losing plays simply take the actual bet amount that should have been played. For example, his Aug 1 bankroll was 25381.62 and these were his Aug 2 plays of:

Oak [-210] (3.5%) WIN Recorded bet: 888.36 Bet should have been: 888.36 Recorded net: +423.03 Actual net: +423.03

Cin [-137] (2%) WIN Recorded bet: 695.46 Bet should have been: 507.63 Recorded net: +507.63 Actual net: +370.53

Atl [-137] (2.5%) WIN Recorded bet: 869.32 Bet should have been: 634.54 Recorded net: +634.54 Actual net: +463.17

Bos [-195] (3%) LOSS Recorded bet: 761.45 Bet should have been: 761.45 Recorded net: -761.45 Actual net: -761.45

Recorded net: +803.75  Actual net: +72.25

As you can see, the difference is huge and definitely adds up over time. This was just the most recent day as well, I'm sure I could have found losing days where he still posted a profit. I guess the testament still stands true, DON'T PAY FOR PICKS!.

Don't have time to get into this, I need to be on the road.. but since I won't be around much the next few days you guys can discuss it with some more light on the matter..

The numbers are fine. They all add up properly. I'm sorry you went through all that work without noticing the trend in the numbers.

It seems when he lists the % of bankroll to play on a particular game, that % can either be the amount risked.. or the amount to win. In most cases it is the amount to win, but sometimes you'll notice it's the amount risked.

I guess the obvious question to ask, and jkp can probably answer this for us, is does he tell you the % is to be placed on the To Risk, or To Win?

Cheers  

Yes he does tell you if  it is a to risk wager or win wager.  cin.and atlanta  where to win wagers.   oak and bosten where risk wager all betts over -150. are to win wagers

sorry all wagers over -150 are to risk wager and all wagers under     -150 are to win

Sabermetrician is somehwat right... I just picked a random day to check and the bet amounts don't make sense. 

05/23/10 has two plays that are both under -150 and thus both should be 'To win' the wager. With both plays being 2%, their win amounts should have been to win the same, but they're to win different?

yoiur interpeting it wrong the way he has them listed is this

on 5/23 san dieago +137   he put  86.19 under the risk colum this would be 2% of his current bankroll.

on 5/23 san Fransisco -105 he put 86.19 under the win colum wich is 2% of his bankroll

according to the directions on the top of the page he did it right and theres nothing wrong with the math.

if san fransisco was above -150 then the 86.19 wich is 2% would go in the risk colum