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    patriotsfan1
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 2:30 PM ET #26

    Dodge this, you have it reversed. The system is to play on the team with the lower total, you would always take the magic and always bet against the 76er's. You're looking for the lower total, not the higher total. Not sure if it even matters or not, but wanted to point it out.
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    Dodge this, you have it reversed. The system is to play on the team with the lower total, you would always take the magic and always bet against the 76er's. You're looking for the lower total, not the higher total. Not sure if it even matters or not, but wanted to point it out.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 3:36 PM ET #27

    No Dodge you did it all wrong ... he said the total team name so I assume you have to include the city as well. LOL
     
    You know you don't need to add up the letters to test ... just look at all the matchups (Atl vs Bos, Atl vs Cha, etc) and see how many have a > 60% edge when they are the dog.  If you go back far enough (include enough games) I guarantee you will find none.  It's all a joke, but it illustrates the desire we all have for a magic system.
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    No Dodge you did it all wrong ... he said the total team name so I assume you have to include the city as well. LOL
     
    You know you don't need to add up the letters to test ... just look at all the matchups (Atl vs Bos, Atl vs Cha, etc) and see how many have a > 60% edge when they are the dog.  If you go back far enough (include enough games) I guarantee you will find none.  It's all a joke, but it illustrates the desire we all have for a magic system.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 5:17 PM ET #28

    Sorry you are totally right - laughing must have got in the way. 

     

    In fact I totally botched it. I guess I just thought wow, I could make a system that told me to bet on the team where the starting center whose car had the lower gas mileage than the opposing team's center .... well you get my point, it’s totally arbitrary.  I think I responded for comic value rather than science.

     

    Regardless, it doesn't matter whatsoever. So always play Magic gotcha and never play 76'ers.  And how do I figure out the gas mileage on the cars that all the leagues centers own?

     

    Patriotsfan1 - Thanks for pointing out the error - kudos.  Everyone else I apologize for the error.

     

    For some more totally arbitrary plays:

    For totals less than 200 played in the month of January, play the under on Thurs and Mon and the over on Sunday for inter divisional games only.

    Record since 2000 season

    Day-Total-O/U

    Thursday total<200 12-24
    Monday total<200 30-46
    Sunday total<200 28-16


    (I hope you know I am joking here - you will get killed on those arbitary plays in the long run.  But if you like numerology, the calendar plays will be a big hit.)

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    Sorry you are totally right - laughing must have got in the way. 

     

    In fact I totally botched it. I guess I just thought wow, I could make a system that told me to bet on the team where the starting center whose car had the lower gas mileage than the opposing team's center .... well you get my point, it’s totally arbitrary.  I think I responded for comic value rather than science.

     

    Regardless, it doesn't matter whatsoever. So always play Magic gotcha and never play 76'ers.  And how do I figure out the gas mileage on the cars that all the leagues centers own?

     

    Patriotsfan1 - Thanks for pointing out the error - kudos.  Everyone else I apologize for the error.

     

    For some more totally arbitrary plays:

    For totals less than 200 played in the month of January, play the under on Thurs and Mon and the over on Sunday for inter divisional games only.

    Record since 2000 season

    Day-Total-O/U

    Thursday total<200 12-24
    Monday total<200 30-46
    Sunday total<200 28-16


    (I hope you know I am joking here - you will get killed on those arbitary plays in the long run.  But if you like numerology, the calendar plays will be a big hit.)

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 5:25 PM ET #29

    Kenyonlv...you are right.  But there is no fun in that analysis.  But, if you are curious, here are the best ATS RECORDS (note NOT PLAYS just RECORDS)
     
    Spurs at home to Warriors:  13-2Spurs at home to Jazz:  15-4Trailblazers at home to Lakers:  12-2Seventysixers at home to Raptors:  3-13Celtics at home to Magic:  13-3Lakers at home to Nuggets:  14-4Hornets at home to Heat:  12-3Suns at home to Trailblazers:  13-4Wizards at home to Heat:  4-13Bulls at home to Pistons:  5-14Celtics at home to Grizzlies:  0-8Magic at home to Nuggets:  8-0Supersonics at home to Bucks:  8-0Timberwolves at home to Hornets:  2-10Seventysixers at home to Celtics:  4-12Rockets at home to Suns:  4-12Knicks at home to Celtics:  4-12Hawks at home to Wizards:  4-12Raptors at home to Pacers:  12-4Warriors at home to Trailblazers:  12-4Nets at home to Bulls:  12-4Warriors at home to Mavericks:  13-5

    NOTE These are ATS records and have NOTHING to do with numerology. :-)

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    Kenyonlv...you are right.  But there is no fun in that analysis.  But, if you are curious, here are the best ATS RECORDS (note NOT PLAYS just RECORDS)
     
    Spurs at home to Warriors:  13-2Spurs at home to Jazz:  15-4Trailblazers at home to Lakers:  12-2Seventysixers at home to Raptors:  3-13Celtics at home to Magic:  13-3Lakers at home to Nuggets:  14-4Hornets at home to Heat:  12-3Suns at home to Trailblazers:  13-4Wizards at home to Heat:  4-13Bulls at home to Pistons:  5-14Celtics at home to Grizzlies:  0-8Magic at home to Nuggets:  8-0Supersonics at home to Bucks:  8-0Timberwolves at home to Hornets:  2-10Seventysixers at home to Celtics:  4-12Rockets at home to Suns:  4-12Knicks at home to Celtics:  4-12Hawks at home to Wizards:  4-12Raptors at home to Pacers:  12-4Warriors at home to Trailblazers:  12-4Nets at home to Bulls:  12-4Warriors at home to Mavericks:  13-5

    NOTE These are ATS records and have NOTHING to do with numerology. :-)

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 5:28 PM ET #30

    Fekk ..nice formatting sorry.....
     
    Spurs at home to Warriors:  13-2
    Spurs at home to Jazz:  15-4
    Trailblazers at home to Lakers:  12-2
    Seventysixers at home to Raptors:  3-13
    Celtics at home to Magic:  13-3
    Lakers at home to Nuggets:  14-4
    Hornets at home to Heat:  12-3
    Suns at home to Trailblazers:  13-4
    Wizards at home to Heat:  4-13
    Bulls at home to Pistons:  5-14
    Celtics at home to Grizzlies:  0-8
    Magic at home to Nuggets:  8-0
    Supersonics at home to Bucks:  8-0
    Timberwolves at home to Hornets:  2-10
    Seventysixers at home to Celtics:  4-12
    Rockets at home to Suns:  4-12
    Knicks at home to Celtics:  4-12
    Hawks at home to Wizards:  4-12
    Raptors at home to Pacers:  12-4
    Warriors at home to Trailblazers:  12-4
    Nets at home to Bulls:  12-4
    Warriors at home to Mavericks:  13-5
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    Fekk ..nice formatting sorry.....
     
    Spurs at home to Warriors:  13-2
    Spurs at home to Jazz:  15-4
    Trailblazers at home to Lakers:  12-2
    Seventysixers at home to Raptors:  3-13
    Celtics at home to Magic:  13-3
    Lakers at home to Nuggets:  14-4
    Hornets at home to Heat:  12-3
    Suns at home to Trailblazers:  13-4
    Wizards at home to Heat:  4-13
    Bulls at home to Pistons:  5-14
    Celtics at home to Grizzlies:  0-8
    Magic at home to Nuggets:  8-0
    Supersonics at home to Bucks:  8-0
    Timberwolves at home to Hornets:  2-10
    Seventysixers at home to Celtics:  4-12
    Rockets at home to Suns:  4-12
    Knicks at home to Celtics:  4-12
    Hawks at home to Wizards:  4-12
    Raptors at home to Pacers:  12-4
    Warriors at home to Trailblazers:  12-4
    Nets at home to Bulls:  12-4
    Warriors at home to Mavericks:  13-5
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 5:54 PM ET #31

    Yes, ATS spreads is what we want to look at, now you can apply the numerolgy to see if it is on the winning sides.  LOL
     
    Interesting records, that is why I said "if" you go back enough games, cuz I knew there would be differences > 60% in the short run, and with some teams only playing twice in a year it may take quite a few years to even out.  Btw what time span is this???  I notice you have the Supersonics so it's probably more then one year.
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    Yes, ATS spreads is what we want to look at, now you can apply the numerolgy to see if it is on the winning sides.  LOL
     
    Interesting records, that is why I said "if" you go back enough games, cuz I knew there would be differences > 60% in the short run, and with some teams only playing twice in a year it may take quite a few years to even out.  Btw what time span is this???  I notice you have the Supersonics so it's probably more then one year.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 5:59 PM ET #32

    How about YOU do the numerology analysis this time :-) and decide if city name is included :-)
     
    ATS record is from 2000 - 2008 seasons (inclusive) sorted by the absolute value between ATS W/L.
     
     
     
     
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    How about YOU do the numerology analysis this time :-) and decide if city name is included :-)
     
    ATS record is from 2000 - 2008 seasons (inclusive) sorted by the absolute value between ATS W/L.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 7:26 PM ET #33

    Good job, a little more disparity then I imagined over 8 seasons.  Nah, I'll pass on the numerolgy part, but I WILL look into what kinda of cars all the centers drive.  Finding out the mpg will be the easy part.  I think we are on the right path to soon owning a "hunk" of Vegas.
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    Good job, a little more disparity then I imagined over 8 seasons.  Nah, I'll pass on the numerolgy part, but I WILL look into what kinda of cars all the centers drive.  Finding out the mpg will be the easy part.  I think we are on the right path to soon owning a "hunk" of Vegas.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 7:50 PM ET #34

    Well be careful here in calling out the disparity.  I am dealing with 899 possible game combinations 31 teams x 29 teams = 899.  (NOTE: Supersonics and Thunder are in my database hence 31 teams - any one of which could play any of the other 29 teams (since Supersonics and Thunder never coexisted its 29 not 30))
     
    My point being, there are 22 team playing team combinations with an ATS disparity of 8 or higher. That's it.  So 2% of the combinations.  That sounds like a pretty predictable number normal in a distribution. So really, all I have done is cherry picked the outliers.
     
    For all I know the "numerology" works with these 22.  Me, I am looking up vehicle mileage.
     
     
     
     
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    Well be careful here in calling out the disparity.  I am dealing with 899 possible game combinations 31 teams x 29 teams = 899.  (NOTE: Supersonics and Thunder are in my database hence 31 teams - any one of which could play any of the other 29 teams (since Supersonics and Thunder never coexisted its 29 not 30))
     
    My point being, there are 22 team playing team combinations with an ATS disparity of 8 or higher. That's it.  So 2% of the combinations.  That sounds like a pretty predictable number normal in a distribution. So really, all I have done is cherry picked the outliers.
     
    For all I know the "numerology" works with these 22.  Me, I am looking up vehicle mileage.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2009 - 11:31 PM ET #35

    Well there you have it folks ... the DogCaller system has been shot down and is just a smoldering "hunk" in the desert.  I guess the guy that got so rich knew which 2 games out of 100 to play and with 1230 games/yr that leaves 25 games/yr to bet (assuming the numerolgy part does indeed work on all 22 pairs.)  But with such a strong system he probably bet 100k a game, and with no losers (60 to 70% winners just doesn't cut it, might as well say the system is 100%) he's up 2.5M/yr and did this for say 25 years. That means 62.5M profit before taxes, which back in say the 70's might have bought a gas station size "hunk" on the strip.
     
    Oh, I forgot ... it works on the NHL too.  Dohhhhhh, .. it all sounds feasible to me now.  LET'S ROLL !!!
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    Well there you have it folks ... the DogCaller system has been shot down and is just a smoldering "hunk" in the desert.  I guess the guy that got so rich knew which 2 games out of 100 to play and with 1230 games/yr that leaves 25 games/yr to bet (assuming the numerolgy part does indeed work on all 22 pairs.)  But with such a strong system he probably bet 100k a game, and with no losers (60 to 70% winners just doesn't cut it, might as well say the system is 100%) he's up 2.5M/yr and did this for say 25 years. That means 62.5M profit before taxes, which back in say the 70's might have bought a gas station size "hunk" on the strip.
     
    Oh, I forgot ... it works on the NHL too.  Dohhhhhh, .. it all sounds feasible to me now.  LET'S ROLL !!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2009 - 5:37 AM ET #36

    Dogcaller,
     
                Please check your into a mental hospital. This is the craziest system I ever heard of. Why not just always bet the most fierce animal name. Lions=== well there goes that idea.
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    Dogcaller,
     
                Please check your into a mental hospital. This is the craziest system I ever heard of. Why not just always bet the most fierce animal name. Lions=== well there goes that idea.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2009 - 11:41 PM ET #37

    Ha Ha Ha! You guys have been talking about this for so long, and I didn't even notice...been so long since I've been in here. Anyways it's not at all like you think. I had to develop a hundred various mathematical formulaes to get it profitable, and the most important thing is the date...Now chew on that for a while...LOL Too bad there's no way to browse to my original threads anymore when I called 56 out of the first 60 hockey games I posted correctly, and not missing on a Dog winner in the first two weeks either...Then proclaim I need professional help...you venom spitting idiots.
     
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    Ha Ha Ha! You guys have been talking about this for so long, and I didn't even notice...been so long since I've been in here. Anyways it's not at all like you think. I had to develop a hundred various mathematical formulaes to get it profitable, and the most important thing is the date...Now chew on that for a while...LOL Too bad there's no way to browse to my original threads anymore when I called 56 out of the first 60 hockey games I posted correctly, and not missing on a Dog winner in the first two weeks either...Then proclaim I need professional help...you venom spitting idiots.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2009 - 11:44 PM ET #38

    So where have the picks been for the past couple of months ?
     
    And if you search hard enough the threads are still here.  Bump them if you can
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    And if you search hard enough the threads are still here.  Bump them if you can
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2009 - 11:52 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by Lippsman:

    So where have the picks been for the past couple of months ?
     
    And if you search hard enough the threads are still here.  Bump them if you can

    Well, go back to Jan 2007 and take a look...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lippsman:

    So where have the picks been for the past couple of months ?
     
    And if you search hard enough the threads are still here.  Bump them if you can

    Well, go back to Jan 2007 and take a look...

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2009 - 8:31 AM ET #40

    Over two years ago. .  So how have they done the past couple of months ?
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    Over two years ago. .  So how have they done the past couple of months ?
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