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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2010 - 11:55 PM ET #1

    whats up guys wanted to start thread to try and answer any questions you may have. I have noticed there already quite a few topics on changing the system. all  I can say is good luck, but if you stick to the right way of doing it. you WILL make $ long term.

    with that said here are the plays that i have sent my guys this week, hopefully you understand why and are playing the same games. win or lose; its the right way

    these are directly from my email:

    monday JUNE 14

    interleague
     
    PADRES -1.5 B
    MILWAUKEE A
    BALTIMORE A

    tuesday JUNE 15

    NL
     
    DODGERS -1.5 C
     
    INTERLEAGUE
     
    WHITE SOX -1.5 A
    YANKEES -1.5 C
    WASHINGTON A
    METS -1.5 A
    DRAYS -1.5 B
    ARIZONA B
    CUBS -1.5 B                                        
    ROYALS -1.5 C
    COLORADO B
    SEATTLE C
    PADRES -1.5 C
    BALTIMORE B
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    whats up guys wanted to start thread to try and answer any questions you may have. I have noticed there already quite a few topics on changing the system. all  I can say is good luck, but if you stick to the right way of doing it. you WILL make $ long term.

    with that said here are the plays that i have sent my guys this week, hopefully you understand why and are playing the same games. win or lose; its the right way

    these are directly from my email:

    monday JUNE 14

    interleague
     
    PADRES -1.5 B
    MILWAUKEE A
    BALTIMORE A

    tuesday JUNE 15

    NL
     
    DODGERS -1.5 C
     
    INTERLEAGUE
     
    WHITE SOX -1.5 A
    YANKEES -1.5 C
    WASHINGTON A
    METS -1.5 A
    DRAYS -1.5 B
    ARIZONA B
    CUBS -1.5 B                                        
    ROYALS -1.5 C
    COLORADO B
    SEATTLE C
    PADRES -1.5 C
    BALTIMORE B
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2010 - 11:57 PM ET #2

    also, some of you may think I am the "Mike Miller" from the website that is selling this sytem, but i assure you I am not. I have no idea who that is.
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    also, some of you may think I am the "Mike Miller" from the website that is selling this sytem, but i assure you I am not. I have no idea who that is.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 1:27 AM ET #3

    I do believe your right.

    I got some questions that seems to bug me about this system though.

    First: What lines are you using and does it really matter?

    Second: You using the 1.5% = A 3% = B 4.5% = C 6% = D? on your bets?


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    I do believe your right.

    I got some questions that seems to bug me about this system though.

    First: What lines are you using and does it really matter?

    Second: You using the 1.5% = A 3% = B 4.5% = C 6% = D? on your bets?


     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 1:55 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by SKiLLsSoLoN:

    I do believe your right.

    I got some questions that seems to bug me about this system though.

    First: What lines are you using and does it really matter?

    Second: You using the 1.5% = A 3% = B 4.5% = C 6% = D? on your bets?


    i always use opening lines at BM or DSI and yes those are % I use

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKiLLsSoLoN:

    I do believe your right.

    I got some questions that seems to bug me about this system though.

    First: What lines are you using and does it really matter?

    Second: You using the 1.5% = A 3% = B 4.5% = C 6% = D? on your bets?


    i always use opening lines at BM or DSI and yes those are % I use

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 3:06 AM ET #5

    I understand everyone of your plays, except for Colorado.

    At Bookmaker, the Twins opened at -140, making them a play.

    While DSI had the Twins oped at -160, making the Rockies a play at something better than +135.

    So what made you pick the Rockies ML over the Twins RL?
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    I understand everyone of your plays, except for Colorado.

    At Bookmaker, the Twins opened at -140, making them a play.

    While DSI had the Twins oped at -160, making the Rockies a play at something better than +135.

    So what made you pick the Rockies ML over the Twins RL?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 3:17 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    I understand everyone of your plays, except for Colorado.

    At Bookmaker, the Twins opened at -140, making them a play.

    While DSI had the Twins oped at -160, making the Rockies a play at something better than +135.

    So what made you pick the Rockies ML over the Twins RL?

    because Rockies were getting more value on ML then twins RL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    I understand everyone of your plays, except for Colorado.

    At Bookmaker, the Twins opened at -140, making them a play.

    While DSI had the Twins oped at -160, making the Rockies a play at something better than +135.

    So what made you pick the Rockies ML over the Twins RL?

    because Rockies were getting more value on ML then twins RL

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 3:21 AM ET #7

    really though, if you are using this system to take advantage of the odds in a 4 game chase, wouldn't the best thing to do is to bet both the Rockies ML and Twins RL.

    So, say like today's results, you capitalize on the Twins RL (whatever bet amount that is), but then you carry over the Rockies ML onto a C bet as if they'd lost a normal game
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    really though, if you are using this system to take advantage of the odds in a 4 game chase, wouldn't the best thing to do is to bet both the Rockies ML and Twins RL.

    So, say like today's results, you capitalize on the Twins RL (whatever bet amount that is), but then you carry over the Rockies ML onto a C bet as if they'd lost a normal game
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 3:28 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    really though, if you are using this system to take advantage of the odds in a 4 game chase, wouldn't the best thing to do is to bet both the Rockies ML and Twins RL.

    So, say like today's results, you capitalize on the Twins RL (whatever bet amount that is), but then you carry over the Rockies ML onto a C bet as if they'd lost a normal game

    yes i guess in in theory you could probably do this, but it would only make sense when the price is right at the limits like today. very big downside is: if you get middled and twins only win by 1 run. you lose both sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    really though, if you are using this system to take advantage of the odds in a 4 game chase, wouldn't the best thing to do is to bet both the Rockies ML and Twins RL.

    So, say like today's results, you capitalize on the Twins RL (whatever bet amount that is), but then you carry over the Rockies ML onto a C bet as if they'd lost a normal game

    yes i guess in in theory you could probably do this, but it would only make sense when the price is right at the limits like today. very big downside is: if you get middled and twins only win by 1 run. you lose both sides

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 3:41 AM ET #9

    I agree. I wouldn't want to bet both sides like that, but I read in some of your earlier posts that the point of the system is to go up against the odds.

    So although it's not comfortable, I thought maybe that would be something to consider.

    In total, I am VERY interested in this system and I appreciate those who leaked it out, and you for creating it and helping people like me out. I am very tempted to get with DSI and Bookmaker after seeing those amazing numbers from the 2009 pdf.

    I understand not every year is like that, so I'm trying my best to backtrack. Im currently midway thru July in 2008 and the system hasn't been doing too hot, but I'm thinking/hoping that not using the Bookmaker lines is what's hurting those numbers
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    I agree. I wouldn't want to bet both sides like that, but I read in some of your earlier posts that the point of the system is to go up against the odds.

    So although it's not comfortable, I thought maybe that would be something to consider.

    In total, I am VERY interested in this system and I appreciate those who leaked it out, and you for creating it and helping people like me out. I am very tempted to get with DSI and Bookmaker after seeing those amazing numbers from the 2009 pdf.

    I understand not every year is like that, so I'm trying my best to backtrack. Im currently midway thru July in 2008 and the system hasn't been doing too hot, but I'm thinking/hoping that not using the Bookmaker lines is what's hurting those numbers
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 3:53 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    I agree. I wouldn't want to bet both sides like that, but I read in some of your earlier posts that the point of the system is to go up against the odds.

    So although it's not comfortable, I thought maybe that would be something to consider.

    In total, I am VERY interested in this system and I appreciate those who leaked it out, and you for creating it and helping people like me out. I am very tempted to get with DSI and Bookmaker after seeing those amazing numbers from the 2009 pdf.

    I understand not every year is like that, so I'm trying my best to backtrack. Im currently midway thru July in 2008 and the system hasn't been doing too hot, but I'm thinking/hoping that not using the Bookmaker lines is what's hurting those numbers

    ya just for reference 2008 was the worst year in past 5 for dogs. it got alot better in august/september but was still nothing like 2005-2007. i have all years on excel spreadsheets from 2005.

    any other questions ill try my best to answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    I agree. I wouldn't want to bet both sides like that, but I read in some of your earlier posts that the point of the system is to go up against the odds.

    So although it's not comfortable, I thought maybe that would be something to consider.

    In total, I am VERY interested in this system and I appreciate those who leaked it out, and you for creating it and helping people like me out. I am very tempted to get with DSI and Bookmaker after seeing those amazing numbers from the 2009 pdf.

    I understand not every year is like that, so I'm trying my best to backtrack. Im currently midway thru July in 2008 and the system hasn't been doing too hot, but I'm thinking/hoping that not using the Bookmaker lines is what's hurting those numbers

    ya just for reference 2008 was the worst year in past 5 for dogs. it got alot better in august/september but was still nothing like 2005-2007. i have all years on excel spreadsheets from 2005.

    any other questions ill try my best to answer

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:19 AM ET #11

    Hey mlb, I PMed you, and thanks again for the help
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    Hey mlb, I PMed you, and thanks again for the help
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 8:12 AM ET #12

    mlb1234 can you send me the excel files of the system you have. I'm thinking of some improvements of the system but really need the backtesting data. my e-mailadress is g.debrucker @ gmail . com !
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    mlb1234 can you send me the excel files of the system you have. I'm thinking of some improvements of the system but really need the backtesting data. my e-mailadress is g.debrucker @ gmail . com !
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 3:19 PM ET #13

    I just sent you a friend request.   If you are sending these plays via email, I would like to be added to your list.


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    I just sent you a friend request.   If you are sending these plays via email, I would like to be added to your list.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 3:57 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Prime1:

    I just sent you a friend request.   If you are sending these plays via email, I would like to be added to your list.


    prime,

    yes i send the plays via email but its only to a few guys. im just here to help answer questions since there is now a website selling my system. if you wanted to get the plays you can go to the site a buy the pdf and i think they email you as well. I am not affilliated anyway in what games they send, but i do know they hvae different rules that they use. you can email me if you want if you want to get access to my daily emails, but i am not here trying to promote that what so ever. like i said here trying to help with what i can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime1:

    I just sent you a friend request.   If you are sending these plays via email, I would like to be added to your list.


    prime,

    yes i send the plays via email but its only to a few guys. im just here to help answer questions since there is now a website selling my system. if you wanted to get the plays you can go to the site a buy the pdf and i think they email you as well. I am not affilliated anyway in what games they send, but i do know they hvae different rules that they use. you can email me if you want if you want to get access to my daily emails, but i am not here trying to promote that what so ever. like i said here trying to help with what i can

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:14 PM ET #15

    mlb what are the records for last couple of seasons. Can you mail me the excel files??
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    mlb what are the records for last couple of seasons. Can you mail me the excel files??
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    mlb what are the records for last couple of seasons. Can you mail me the excel files??

    2005 331-431 43.4% for dogs

    2006 305-391 43.8% for dogs

    2007 317-417 43.2% for dogs

    2008 279-399 41.1% for dogs--- had bad year only made 838% ROI for season

    2009- you have the spreadsheet already, thats what they are useing on their website.

    as far as sending the spreadsheets, i can but you need to get hold of my thru my email. we are gonna have to speak 1st before that can or will happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    mlb what are the records for last couple of seasons. Can you mail me the excel files??

    2005 331-431 43.4% for dogs

    2006 305-391 43.8% for dogs

    2007 317-417 43.2% for dogs

    2008 279-399 41.1% for dogs--- had bad year only made 838% ROI for season

    2009- you have the spreadsheet already, thats what they are useing on their website.

    as far as sending the spreadsheets, i can but you need to get hold of my thru my email. we are gonna have to speak 1st before that can or will happen

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:28 PM ET #17

    So those are the results following the following rules:

    bet the run line when fav is -105 to -140
    bet the dog when ml is +135 to +195 ???

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    So those are the results following the following rules:

    bet the run line when fav is -105 to -140
    bet the dog when ml is +135 to +195 ???

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:32 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    So those are the results following the following rules:

    bet the run line when fav is -105 to -140
    bet the dog when ml is +135 to +195 ???

    yes and no. from 2005-2008 I only played the dogs. in 2008 i added playing favorites on RL because the dogs had a rough year. still made 8x your money for season but i was used to making more. so thats why in 2009 there is 2x as many games. and yes those are the odds i have always used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    So those are the results following the following rules:

    bet the run line when fav is -105 to -140
    bet the dog when ml is +135 to +195 ???

    yes and no. from 2005-2008 I only played the dogs. in 2008 i added playing favorites on RL because the dogs had a rough year. still made 8x your money for season but i was used to making more. so thats why in 2009 there is 2x as many games. and yes those are the odds i have always used.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:35 PM ET #19

    Ok thx for the info mlb :) But you have to bet A LOT each day no?
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    Ok thx for the info mlb :) But you have to bet A LOT each day no?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:37 PM ET #20

    Whenever you make you plays the night before on Bookmaker and DSI, do you just look at the lines that you see on their sites the night before?

    Or do you go on Covers to see what Bookmakers opening lines were?
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    Whenever you make you plays the night before on Bookmaker and DSI, do you just look at the lines that you see on their sites the night before?

    Or do you go on Covers to see what Bookmakers opening lines were?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:42 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    Ok thx for the info mlb :) But you have to bet A LOT each day no?

    yes. usually got 30% of the bankroll on the line everyday. somedays the odds call for betting entire board of games, today for example im playing 8 games

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    Ok thx for the info mlb :) But you have to bet A LOT each day no?

    yes. usually got 30% of the bankroll on the line everyday. somedays the odds call for betting entire board of games, today for example im playing 8 games

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:45 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    Whenever you make you plays the night before on Bookmaker and DSI, do you just look at the lines that you see on their sites the night before?

    Or do you go on Covers to see what Bookmakers opening lines were?

    i only use bookmaker/DSI lines. at the time i log onto site is when i bet the games. sometimes i play games at 7 pm for following day sometimes its not until day of games. all depends on when i get in front of computer to play them. obviously they may or may not change, but when i see them is when i play them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksaki:

    Whenever you make you plays the night before on Bookmaker and DSI, do you just look at the lines that you see on their sites the night before?

    Or do you go on Covers to see what Bookmakers opening lines were?

    i only use bookmaker/DSI lines. at the time i log onto site is when i bet the games. sometimes i play games at 7 pm for following day sometimes its not until day of games. all depends on when i get in front of computer to play them. obviously they may or may not change, but when i see them is when i play them

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:47 PM ET #23

    You've obviously had great success doing it your way, but I'd feel the best way, and truest way to know what the odds of people like Bookmaker are would be to see what the opening lines are off Covers
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    You've obviously had great success doing it your way, but I'd feel the best way, and truest way to know what the odds of people like Bookmaker are would be to see what the opening lines are off Covers
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:56 PM ET #24

    hey mlb do you have to wager each and every day about 15 to 20% of your bankroll??
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    hey mlb do you have to wager each and every day about 15 to 20% of your bankroll??
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2010 - 4:58 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    hey mlb do you have to wager each and every day about 15 to 20% of your bankroll??

    post #21.

    usually 30% on the line everyday. especially when its full card of games

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinesport:

    hey mlb do you have to wager each and every day about 15 to 20% of your bankroll??

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    usually 30% on the line everyday. especially when its full card of games

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