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    Gambller
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2011 - 11:49 PM ET #1

    I didnt create this system and don't know if its any good, so I thought I would try it:
    https://sportsgambling.about.com/od/nfl/a/NFLpointdiff_2.htm
    Ive created a workbook in excel where I can click the name of any team in the NFL and match them up against any other team, using the systems' methods it projects a score.
     
    Spreads/OUs covering by 7+ points will be an official pick.
     
    Potential Picks (not official)
    NOR/CAR O51.5
    PHI/BUF O50.5
    Buffalo +2.5
    CIN/JAC U37.5
    Cincinnati +1
    Indianapolis -1
    TEN/PIT U40
    Tennessee +3
    NYJ/NE O50
    GB/ATL O52.5
    Green Bay -5.5
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    I didnt create this system and don't know if its any good, so I thought I would try it:
    https://sportsgambling.about.com/od/nfl/a/NFLpointdiff_2.htm
    Ive created a workbook in excel where I can click the name of any team in the NFL and match them up against any other team, using the systems' methods it projects a score.
     
    Spreads/OUs covering by 7+ points will be an official pick.
     
    Potential Picks (not official)
    NOR/CAR O51.5
    PHI/BUF O50.5
    Buffalo +2.5
    CIN/JAC U37.5
    Cincinnati +1
    Indianapolis -1
    TEN/PIT U40
    Tennessee +3
    NYJ/NE O50
    GB/ATL O52.5
    Green Bay -5.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2011 - 11:53 PM ET #2

    New Orleans 35
    Carolina 25
     
    Philadelphia 24
    Buffalo 38
     
    Seattle 15
    NY Giants 30
     
    Cincinnati 16
    Jacksonville 10
     
    Kansas City 17
    Indianapolis 25
     
    Tennessee 17
    Pittsburgh 13
     
    Arizona 22
    Minnesota 21
     
    Oakland 21
    Houston 31
     
    Tampa Bay 16
    San Francisco 21
     
    NY Jets 24
    New England 36
     
    San Diego 22
    Denver 22
     
    Green Bay 41
    Atlanta 24
     
    Chicago 19
    Detroit 34
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    New Orleans 35
    Carolina 25
     
    Philadelphia 24
    Buffalo 38
     
    Seattle 15
    NY Giants 30
     
    Cincinnati 16
    Jacksonville 10
     
    Kansas City 17
    Indianapolis 25
     
    Tennessee 17
    Pittsburgh 13
     
    Arizona 22
    Minnesota 21
     
    Oakland 21
    Houston 31
     
    Tampa Bay 16
    San Francisco 21
     
    NY Jets 24
    New England 36
     
    San Diego 22
    Denver 22
     
    Green Bay 41
    Atlanta 24
     
    Chicago 19
    Detroit 34
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2011 - 12:26 PM ET #4

    I saw that article earlier and wanted to try it out. Great work G

    Some of the larger totals differences I noticed:

    BUF - Projection 62 PTS / Spread 53 PTS  +9 DIF
    JAX - Projection 26 PTS/ Spread 35.5 PTS  -9.5 DIF
    PIT - Projection 30 PTS / Spread 40 PTS  -10 DIF
    NE - Projection 60 PTS / Spread 50 PTS  +10 DIF
    ATL - Projection 65 PTS / Spread 53 PTS  +12 DIF

    I think everything else was within 4 pts except for the Monday night game which 5.5 pts. I usually don't play totals but I might play these 5 today ...

    I didn't check the sides but they might be worth checking into...

    Thanks again, Gambller. Good Luck!


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    I saw that article earlier and wanted to try it out. Great work G

    Some of the larger totals differences I noticed:

    BUF - Projection 62 PTS / Spread 53 PTS  +9 DIF
    JAX - Projection 26 PTS/ Spread 35.5 PTS  -9.5 DIF
    PIT - Projection 30 PTS / Spread 40 PTS  -10 DIF
    NE - Projection 60 PTS / Spread 50 PTS  +10 DIF
    ATL - Projection 65 PTS / Spread 53 PTS  +12 DIF

    I think everything else was within 4 pts except for the Monday night game which 5.5 pts. I usually don't play totals but I might play these 5 today ...

    I didn't check the sides but they might be worth checking into...

    Thanks again, Gambller. Good Luck!


     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2011 - 12:54 PM ET #5

    Looks like official picks will be:
    NO/CAR O51
    PHI/BUF O 52.5
    Buffalo +3
    CIN/JAC U36.5
    Indianapolis -1
    TEN/PIT U40
    Tennessee +3
    NYJ/NE O50.5
    GB/ATL O53
    Green Bay -5.5
    Detroit -5
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    Looks like official picks will be:
    NO/CAR O51
    PHI/BUF O 52.5
    Buffalo +3
    CIN/JAC U36.5
    Indianapolis -1
    TEN/PIT U40
    Tennessee +3
    NYJ/NE O50.5
    GB/ATL O53
    Green Bay -5.5
    Detroit -5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2011 - 6:53 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Gambller:

    Looks like official picks will be:
    NO/CAR O51
    PHI/BUF O 52.5
    Buffalo +3
    CIN/JAC U36.5
    Indianapolis -1
    TEN/PIT U40
    Tennessee +3
    NYJ/NE O50.5
    GB/ATL O53
    Green Bay -5.5
    Detroit -5

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambller:

    Looks like official picks will be:
    NO/CAR O51
    PHI/BUF O 52.5
    Buffalo +3
    CIN/JAC U36.5
    Indianapolis -1
    TEN/PIT U40
    Tennessee +3
    NYJ/NE O50.5
    GB/ATL O53
    Green Bay -5.5
    Detroit -5

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2011 - 8:52 PM ET #7

    I took it as they had to cover the spread and the 7 points, so like Indy would have to be 26 to be a bet, so I didn't bet Indy or Tenn.  I didn't bet O/U's either just Buf, GB and Det
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    I took it as they had to cover the spread and the 7 points, so like Indy would have to be 26 to be a bet, so I didn't bet Indy or Tenn.  I didn't bet O/U's either just Buf, GB and Det
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 2:01 AM ET #8

    I take that you put this on a excel spread sheet. I have a spread sheet that predicts scores by yppt formula. I'm not up to speed on converting dates and time to activate my sheet. If you would like to swap sheets let me know. Mine also has S.O.S. built in. Doing it by hand is rough.     
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    I take that you put this on a excel spread sheet. I have a spread sheet that predicts scores by yppt formula. I'm not up to speed on converting dates and time to activate my sheet. If you would like to swap sheets let me know. Mine also has S.O.S. built in. Doing it by hand is rough.     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 2:49 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Gambller:

    Looks like official picks will be:
    NO/CAR O51-W
    PHI/BUF O 52.5-W
    Buffalo +3-W
    CIN/JAC U36.5-L
    Indianapolis -1-L
    TEN/PIT U40-L
    Tennessee +3-L
    NYJ/NE O50.5-W
    GB/ATL O53-L
    Green Bay -5.5-W
    Detroit -5-W
     
    ATS: 3-2
    OU: 3-3
    Overall: 6-5 (55%)
     
    Week 6
    Carolina 24
    Atlanta 25
     
    San Francisco 22
    Detroit 25
     
    Indianapolis 13
    Cincinnati 31
     
    Philadelphia 17
    Washington 24
     
    St. Louis 11
    Green Bay 40
     
    Jacksonville 8
    Pittsburgh 22
     
    Buffalo 36
    NY Giants 27
     
    Cleveland 19
    Oakland 31
     
    Houston 16
    Baltimore 28
     
    New Orleans 32
    Tampa Bay 21
     
    Dallas 26
    New England 35
     
    Minnesota 19
    Chicago 22
     
    Miami 17
    NY Jets 28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambller:

    Looks like official picks will be:
    NO/CAR O51-W
    PHI/BUF O 52.5-W
    Buffalo +3-W
    CIN/JAC U36.5-L
    Indianapolis -1-L
    TEN/PIT U40-L
    Tennessee +3-L
    NYJ/NE O50.5-W
    GB/ATL O53-L
    Green Bay -5.5-W
    Detroit -5-W
     
    ATS: 3-2
    OU: 3-3
    Overall: 6-5 (55%)
     
    Week 6
    Carolina 24
    Atlanta 25
     
    San Francisco 22
    Detroit 25
     
    Indianapolis 13
    Cincinnati 31
     
    Philadelphia 17
    Washington 24
     
    St. Louis 11
    Green Bay 40
     
    Jacksonville 8
    Pittsburgh 22
     
    Buffalo 36
    NY Giants 27
     
    Cleveland 19
    Oakland 31
     
    Houston 16
    Baltimore 28
     
    New Orleans 32
    Tampa Bay 21
     
    Dallas 26
    New England 35
     
    Minnesota 19
    Chicago 22
     
    Miami 17
    NY Jets 28
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 7:38 PM ET #10

    Can You Post The spread sheet???

    Nice Results so far!!!!

    Thanks For Posting

     

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    Can You Post The spread sheet???

    Nice Results so far!!!!

    Thanks For Posting

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 10:17 PM ET #11

    I dont know how
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 2:00 AM ET #12

    add me to your friends list, lets swap some sheets
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    add me to your friends list, lets swap some sheets
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2011 - 12:14 PM ET #13

    what about tommorows games
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    what about tommorows games
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2011 - 6:08 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by jwsone:

    add me to your friends list, lets swap some sheets

    I put about 75 man hours into my sheet so I really won't be needing yours, thanks though and Ill let you know if Ill swap :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwsone:

    add me to your friends list, lets swap some sheets

    I put about 75 man hours into my sheet so I really won't be needing yours, thanks though and Ill let you know if Ill swap :)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2011 - 6:11 PM ET #15

    Barring any drastic spread changes, official picks will be:
     
    Spreads:
    Cincinnati -7
    Washington +2.5
    Green Bay -14
    Buffalo +3
     
    OUs:
    Jacksonville/Pittsburgh Under 40.5
    Buffalo/NY Giants Over 50
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    Barring any drastic spread changes, official picks will be:
     
    Spreads:
    Cincinnati -7
    Washington +2.5
    Green Bay -14
    Buffalo +3
     
    OUs:
    Jacksonville/Pittsburgh Under 40.5
    Buffalo/NY Giants Over 50
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2011 - 10:10 AM ET #16

    Spreads:
    Cincinnati -7-W
    Washington +2.5-L
    Green Bay -14-W
    Buffalo +3-P
     
    OUs:
    Jacksonville/Pittsburgh Under 40.5-W
    Buffalo/NY Giants Over 50-W
     
    Overall:
    ATS: 5-3
    OU: 5-3
    Overall: 10-6 (62.5%)
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    Spreads:
    Cincinnati -7-W
    Washington +2.5-L
    Green Bay -14-W
    Buffalo +3-P
     
    OUs:
    Jacksonville/Pittsburgh Under 40.5-W
    Buffalo/NY Giants Over 50-W
     
    Overall:
    ATS: 5-3
    OU: 5-3
    Overall: 10-6 (62.5%)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2011 - 5:51 PM ET #17

    this looks to be interesting. by any chance is there any backdata?
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    this looks to be interesting. by any chance is there any backdata?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2011 - 2:07 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by SpamBurger:

    this looks to be interesting. by any chance is there any backdata?

    I dont have any, which is why im trying it out this year.

    Ill post the projected scores tomorrow after I double check them

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpamBurger:

    this looks to be interesting. by any chance is there any backdata?

    I dont have any, which is why im trying it out this year.

    Ill post the projected scores tomorrow after I double check them

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2011 - 10:45 AM ET #19

    I don't get the system.  can someone explain how to predict just the outcome of the score. do all the steps have to be followed?
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    I don't get the system.  can someone explain how to predict just the outcome of the score. do all the steps have to be followed?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2011 - 11:19 PM ET #20

    i have a boring day at work coming up tomorrow. i'll run the figures for the 2010 season from week 5 onwards (the article said only use current season after 4 weeks).
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    i have a boring day at work coming up tomorrow. i'll run the figures for the 2010 season from week 5 onwards (the article said only use current season after 4 weeks).
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2011 - 1:02 AM ET #21

    @Hibore222-Please tell me how it goes
     
    San Diego 20
    NY Jets 26
     
    Seattle 20
    Cleveland 21
     
    Atlanta 18
    Detroit 33
     
    Washington 21
    Carolina 19
     
    Chicago 23
    Tampa Bay 19
     
    Denver 23
    Miami 21
     
    Houston 19
    Tennessee 21
     
    Pittsburgh 21
    Arizona 16
     
    Kansas City 15
    Oakland 35
     
    Green Bay 32
    Minnesota 19
     
    St. Louis 11
    Dallas 30
     
    Indianapolis 19
    New Orleans 40
     
    Baltimore 29
    Jacksonville 10
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    San Diego 20
    NY Jets 26
     
    Seattle 20
    Cleveland 21
     
    Atlanta 18
    Detroit 33
     
    Washington 21
    Carolina 19
     
    Chicago 23
    Tampa Bay 19
     
    Denver 23
    Miami 21
     
    Houston 19
    Tennessee 21
     
    Pittsburgh 21
    Arizona 16
     
    Kansas City 15
    Oakland 35
     
    Green Bay 32
    Minnesota 19
     
    St. Louis 11
    Dallas 30
     
    Indianapolis 19
    New Orleans 40
     
    Baltimore 29
    Jacksonville 10
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2011 - 1:24 PM ET #22

    can somebody upload the excel ? i will try to write a java app out of it
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2011 - 1:34 PM ET #23

    based on above, the picks for this week (7 point differential)

    nyj +2

    det -3.5

    oak -4

    oak over 41.5

    bal -7.5

     

     

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    based on above, the picks for this week (7 point differential)

    nyj +2

    det -3.5

    oak -4

    oak over 41.5

    bal -7.5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2011 - 7:08 PM ET #24

    I'm working on the 2010 games now. Should have it done by some point tomorrow. Did a lot of manual data-entry work today to calculate it, but now that I have the framework down, it should be easier. Very very early results are good.

    I started doing the calculations for week 5 onwards. There was a very interesting one that popped up quickly.

    Green Bay was playing at Washington. The natural reaction by most of us would be simply: Green Bay clearly favored. Washington was a trash team last year (has been for years), and people were loving the Packers talent. The Packers were coming into the at a healthy 3-1 record, with their only loss being a 3-pt loss on Monday night at Chicago. Come on, that loss was no big deal, playing your division rival (the oldest rivalry in football) on Monday Night Football is tough. So really, GB was playing splendidly well.

    Meanwhile, the Redskins were 2-2, having lost to the lowly Lions, as well as to the mediocore Texans. Their week 1 win was a strange game that they somehow beat Dallas in, on Sunday Night Football.

    Obviously, the public would be all over Green Bay in this game. And sure enough, that was reflected in the line. Despite being on the road, Green Bay was a 3-point favorite.

    Not according to the formula. The formula predicted that Washington should have been the favorite. And not just a slight favorite. A 6-point favorite. This is a stunning difference from what the point spread was.

    And sure enough, the formula was more accurate than the point spread. Washington won the game 16-13. The formula was 3 points off the final score, but the point spread was 6 points off.

    Upon looking at why the formula predicted Was -6, it seemed that the reason why was this: GB's wins were over fairly unimpressive teams (from a statistical standpoint), while WAS's wins were over statistically good teams.

    I've only gone through 4 games in Week 5 so far (the first week that I'm tracking), and bets were made on 2 of the 4 games (Colts -7 as well). So far, in both games that a bad was made, we won. We'll see what happens moving forward.

    I'll upload the Excel sheet when it's done, likely sometime tomorrow afternoon.
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    I'm working on the 2010 games now. Should have it done by some point tomorrow. Did a lot of manual data-entry work today to calculate it, but now that I have the framework down, it should be easier. Very very early results are good.

    I started doing the calculations for week 5 onwards. There was a very interesting one that popped up quickly.

    Green Bay was playing at Washington. The natural reaction by most of us would be simply: Green Bay clearly favored. Washington was a trash team last year (has been for years), and people were loving the Packers talent. The Packers were coming into the at a healthy 3-1 record, with their only loss being a 3-pt loss on Monday night at Chicago. Come on, that loss was no big deal, playing your division rival (the oldest rivalry in football) on Monday Night Football is tough. So really, GB was playing splendidly well.

    Meanwhile, the Redskins were 2-2, having lost to the lowly Lions, as well as to the mediocore Texans. Their week 1 win was a strange game that they somehow beat Dallas in, on Sunday Night Football.

    Obviously, the public would be all over Green Bay in this game. And sure enough, that was reflected in the line. Despite being on the road, Green Bay was a 3-point favorite.

    Not according to the formula. The formula predicted that Washington should have been the favorite. And not just a slight favorite. A 6-point favorite. This is a stunning difference from what the point spread was.

    And sure enough, the formula was more accurate than the point spread. Washington won the game 16-13. The formula was 3 points off the final score, but the point spread was 6 points off.

    Upon looking at why the formula predicted Was -6, it seemed that the reason why was this: GB's wins were over fairly unimpressive teams (from a statistical standpoint), while WAS's wins were over statistically good teams.

    I've only gone through 4 games in Week 5 so far (the first week that I'm tracking), and bets were made on 2 of the 4 games (Colts -7 as well). So far, in both games that a bad was made, we won. We'll see what happens moving forward.

    I'll upload the Excel sheet when it's done, likely sometime tomorrow afternoon.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2011 - 7:15 PM ET #25

    Hibore222,

      You're the BEST, thanks for your time

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    Hibore222,

      You're the BEST, thanks for your time

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