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    smitler
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2010 - 8:46 PM ET #1801

    I know how Little Bill Daggett must have felt in that final scene in Unforgiven.

    The system has officially tanked since I repealed the 3-game chase max just a few days ago.

    I will recap later, but I don't think it really matters. Just depends on how everybody played it.

    I'm down 30 units since yesterday. Gonna try playing aggressive for recovery or complete failure, whichever comes first.
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    I know how Little Bill Daggett must have felt in that final scene in Unforgiven.

    The system has officially tanked since I repealed the 3-game chase max just a few days ago.

    I will recap later, but I don't think it really matters. Just depends on how everybody played it.

    I'm down 30 units since yesterday. Gonna try playing aggressive for recovery or complete failure, whichever comes first.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2010 - 9:35 PM ET #1802

       

       

          

        

        

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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2010 - 10:20 PM ET #1803

    Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:


    you should be thankful for missing plays and being even man. Think of a straight chaser. If someone actually chased the whole V1 schedule today, they're probably about to commit suicide right now. 

     

     

     

    yeah true

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_A_I_N_T_S:


    you should be thankful for missing plays and being even man. Think of a straight chaser. If someone actually chased the whole V1 schedule today, they're probably about to commit suicide right now. 

     

     

     

    yeah true

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2010 - 11:50 PM ET #1804

    FINAL RECAP
    BLOODY SUNDAY
    EVERY CHASERS WORST NIGHTMARE
    Pure 7-game chase cost roughly 127 units
    If you stayed with the 3-game chase max it cost about 15 units.
    No need to update any further, you get the point.

    Sunday, Aug 15, 2010, 15 Games
    Version 1.0 AL/NL Dogs
    Single-tap (go for 1 win) _________________ chase record: 52-5 (65.90 units won) (36.40 units lost)
    Double-tap
    (go for 2nd win if 3 games remain) chase record: 32-2 (39.70 units won) (22 units lost)
    Straight record: 120-110 (52%) since June 19.

    Times listed are
    EDT, Betus lines, subject to change
    Past performance does not guarantee future results
    13:00_Game_1_sea/cle__Y_+130_
    13:30_Game_2_arz/was_Y_+135_
    13:30_Game_2_lad/atl__Y_+135_
    14:00_Game_3_det/chw_N_+110_1/3 of a win
    14:00_Game_3_oak/min_Y_+110_
    14:00_Game_3_pit/hou__Y_+110_
    15:00_Game_4_mil/col___Y_+100_
    15:30_Game_5_tor/laa__Y_+125_
    16:00_Game_6_sdp/sfo_Y_+135_
    20:00_Game_7_phi/nym_Y_+110_52-6 -127 units

    If you stuck with the 3-game max chase you lost about 15 units.


    Version 1.1 NL and 1.2 AL separate playing every time slot
    1.1 NL
    13:00_fla/cin__N_-105_Win
    13:30_arz/was_Y_+135_Loss
    13:30_lad/atl__Y_+135_Loss
    14:00_pit/hou__Y_+110_Loss
    15:00_mil/col__Y+100_Loss
    16:00_sdp/sfo_Y_+135_Loss
    20:00_phi/nym_Y_+110_Loss

    1.2 AL
    13:00_sea/cle__Y_+130_Loss
    13:30_bal/tbr__Y_-105_Win
    14:00_det/chw_N_+110_Win
    14:00_oak/min_Y_+110_Loss
    15:00_bos/tex_N_-105_Win
    15:30_tor/laa__Y_+125_Loss
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    FINAL RECAP
    BLOODY SUNDAY
    EVERY CHASERS WORST NIGHTMARE
    Pure 7-game chase cost roughly 127 units
    If you stayed with the 3-game chase max it cost about 15 units.
    No need to update any further, you get the point.

    Sunday, Aug 15, 2010, 15 Games
    Version 1.0 AL/NL Dogs
    Single-tap (go for 1 win) _________________ chase record: 52-5 (65.90 units won) (36.40 units lost)
    Double-tap
    (go for 2nd win if 3 games remain) chase record: 32-2 (39.70 units won) (22 units lost)
    Straight record: 120-110 (52%) since June 19.

    Times listed are
    EDT, Betus lines, subject to change
    Past performance does not guarantee future results
    13:00_Game_1_sea/cle__Y_+130_
    13:30_Game_2_arz/was_Y_+135_
    13:30_Game_2_lad/atl__Y_+135_
    14:00_Game_3_det/chw_N_+110_1/3 of a win
    14:00_Game_3_oak/min_Y_+110_
    14:00_Game_3_pit/hou__Y_+110_
    15:00_Game_4_mil/col___Y_+100_
    15:30_Game_5_tor/laa__Y_+125_
    16:00_Game_6_sdp/sfo_Y_+135_
    20:00_Game_7_phi/nym_Y_+110_52-6 -127 units

    If you stuck with the 3-game max chase you lost about 15 units.


    Version 1.1 NL and 1.2 AL separate playing every time slot
    1.1 NL
    13:00_fla/cin__N_-105_Win
    13:30_arz/was_Y_+135_Loss
    13:30_lad/atl__Y_+135_Loss
    14:00_pit/hou__Y_+110_Loss
    15:00_mil/col__Y+100_Loss
    16:00_sdp/sfo_Y_+135_Loss
    20:00_phi/nym_Y_+110_Loss

    1.2 AL
    13:00_sea/cle__Y_+130_Loss
    13:30_bal/tbr__Y_-105_Win
    14:00_det/chw_N_+110_Win
    14:00_oak/min_Y_+110_Loss
    15:00_bos/tex_N_-105_Win
    15:30_tor/laa__Y_+125_Loss
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 12:57 AM ET #1805

    man oh man....that stunk!!  wonder what you got in mind....
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    man oh man....that stunk!!  wonder what you got in mind....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 3:06 PM ET #1806

    Monday, August 16, 2010
    For simplicity I'm going to reset all values to zero explained why below:
    I do know that if you played the system exactly how I suggested you lost up to 127 units Sun-8/15, because I repealed the 3-game chase max the day before yesterday (which blows my mind).
    Depending how you played yesterday units could range from +4.00 playing only version 2.0, 2.1, and 2.2, to the -127 by playing only version 1.0 and chasing all 7 games.
    I'm sure you all fall in to that range somewhere.  But I can't determine that so I will just reset and move on.

    Rule number 1 has to be stop chasing after 3 or 4 losses in a row and reset to a lower unit value (not yet determined).

    I think a lot of us got lucky and missed at least 2 games due to overlapping innings and betus not taking action on sdp/sfo.
    If Rule #1 was strictly followed we would be down roughly 15 units on a 3-gamer, and 22 units on a 4 gamer.  Not good, but at least able to mount a recovery effort.

    I lost 22 units Sunday.
    I will attempt to take a more aggressive approach to winning these 22 units back because I believe this system/strategy can work if discipline is maintained and BS Luck gets back on our side.

    So I am thinking about playing game 1 of version 1.0 for roughly 18% of 22 units (4 units).
    I am still experimenting with playing all versions so that will continue at around 1 unit each.
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    Monday, August 16, 2010
    For simplicity I'm going to reset all values to zero explained why below:
    I do know that if you played the system exactly how I suggested you lost up to 127 units Sun-8/15, because I repealed the 3-game chase max the day before yesterday (which blows my mind).
    Depending how you played yesterday units could range from +4.00 playing only version 2.0, 2.1, and 2.2, to the -127 by playing only version 1.0 and chasing all 7 games.
    I'm sure you all fall in to that range somewhere.  But I can't determine that so I will just reset and move on.

    Rule number 1 has to be stop chasing after 3 or 4 losses in a row and reset to a lower unit value (not yet determined).

    I think a lot of us got lucky and missed at least 2 games due to overlapping innings and betus not taking action on sdp/sfo.
    If Rule #1 was strictly followed we would be down roughly 15 units on a 3-gamer, and 22 units on a 4 gamer.  Not good, but at least able to mount a recovery effort.

    I lost 22 units Sunday.
    I will attempt to take a more aggressive approach to winning these 22 units back because I believe this system/strategy can work if discipline is maintained and BS Luck gets back on our side.

    So I am thinking about playing game 1 of version 1.0 for roughly 18% of 22 units (4 units).
    I am still experimenting with playing all versions so that will continue at around 1 unit each.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 3:40 PM ET #1807

    Monday, Aug 16, 2010, 8 Games (Only doing 2 units since only 8 games)
    Version 1.0 AL/NL Dogs
    19:00_Game_1_tex/tbr__Y_+140_
    20:00_Game_2_nym/hou_Y_+125_
    22:00_Game_3_tor/oak__Y_+130_

    Version 1.1 NL and 1.2 AL separate playing every time slot
    1.1 NL

    19:00_lad/atl___Y_+135_
    20:00_nym/hou_Y_+125_
    1.2 AL
    19:00_tex/tbr__Y_+140_
    22:00_tor/oak__Y_+130_
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    Monday, Aug 16, 2010, 8 Games (Only doing 2 units since only 8 games)
    Version 1.0 AL/NL Dogs
    19:00_Game_1_tex/tbr__Y_+140_
    20:00_Game_2_nym/hou_Y_+125_
    22:00_Game_3_tor/oak__Y_+130_

    Version 1.1 NL and 1.2 AL separate playing every time slot
    1.1 NL

    19:00_lad/atl___Y_+135_
    20:00_nym/hou_Y_+125_
    1.2 AL
    19:00_tex/tbr__Y_+140_
    22:00_tor/oak__Y_+130_
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 3:51 PM ET #1808

    Version 2.0 Biggest Favorites AL/NL Not Betus Lines
    19:00_Game_1_tex/tbr__N_-145_
    20:00_Game_2_nym/hou_N_-140_
    22:00_Game_3_tor/oak__N_-145_

    Version 2.1 NL and 2.2 AL separate playing every time slot
    2.1 NL

    19:00_lad/atl___N_-145_
    20:00_nym/hou_N_-140_
    2.2 AL
    19:00_tex/tbr__N_-145_
    22:00_tor/oak__N_-145_
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    Version 2.0 Biggest Favorites AL/NL Not Betus Lines
    19:00_Game_1_tex/tbr__N_-145_
    20:00_Game_2_nym/hou_N_-140_
    22:00_Game_3_tor/oak__N_-145_

    Version 2.1 NL and 2.2 AL separate playing every time slot
    2.1 NL

    19:00_lad/atl___N_-145_
    20:00_nym/hou_N_-140_
    2.2 AL
    19:00_tex/tbr__N_-145_
    22:00_tor/oak__N_-145_
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 4:44 PM ET #1809

    Just a thought here. Version 1 actually won yesterday. If you had chased through game 3 and quit, you would have come out a winner.

    Because there were so many games left, I decided to not chase game 3 but actually decreased my bet. Bad decision. The system actually worked, I didn't trust it.
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    Just a thought here. Version 1 actually won yesterday. If you had chased through game 3 and quit, you would have come out a winner.

    Because there were so many games left, I decided to not chase game 3 but actually decreased my bet. Bad decision. The system actually worked, I didn't trust it.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 4:47 PM ET #1810

    Not totally true, b/c you had to play 3 games for game 3, and only won 1/3 of a unit
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    Not totally true, b/c you had to play 3 games for game 3, and only won 1/3 of a unit
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 5:18 PM ET #1811

    Maybe I have misunderstood. I thought the system was to bet, and then chase through game 3.
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    Maybe I have misunderstood. I thought the system was to bet, and then chase through game 3.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 5:56 PM ET #1812

    I have found the system alternates on being successful from one day to the next.  Today should be winning day.

    Also, it's not a bad idea to hedge your 1st bet with the next best dog for the time slot. Lately the big dogs have been losing early on.
    I have made these points many times on this thread and on SBR but not getting much feedback.  Based on this, yesterday was definitely a day to refrain.  I also find when we have a wide range of time slots to work with, there is more leeway in projecting yes or no scoring, especially if you break it down between V1 and V2. ( for example day games with night games)

    Just my opinion for whatever you all think it's worth. But it has worked for me and avoided bloodbaths like yesterday.  At the very least, until we see consistent changes and better results, it's not a bad idea to factor that into money management. 

    BOLTA!!!!

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    I have found the system alternates on being successful from one day to the next.  Today should be winning day.

    Also, it's not a bad idea to hedge your 1st bet with the next best dog for the time slot. Lately the big dogs have been losing early on.
    I have made these points many times on this thread and on SBR but not getting much feedback.  Based on this, yesterday was definitely a day to refrain.  I also find when we have a wide range of time slots to work with, there is more leeway in projecting yes or no scoring, especially if you break it down between V1 and V2. ( for example day games with night games)

    Just my opinion for whatever you all think it's worth. But it has worked for me and avoided bloodbaths like yesterday.  At the very least, until we see consistent changes and better results, it's not a bad idea to factor that into money management. 

    BOLTA!!!!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 6:05 PM ET #1813

    i defintley hate overlapping time slots.
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 6:06 PM ET #1814

    smitler if the first game loses what are you going to do then? since there are limits on the first inning bets

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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 6:54 PM ET #1815

    Quote Originally Posted by 730champ:

    smitler if the first game loses what are you going to do then? since there are limits on the first inning bets



    Go for 4 units.
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    smitler if the first game loses what are you going to do then? since there are limits on the first inning bets



    Go for 4 units.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 7:01 PM ET #1816

    GL on your comeback, Smits.

    I followed you on occasional days and always had great returns so I know you'll be fine. It's a sound system.
     


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    I followed you on occasional days and always had great returns so I know you'll be fine. It's a sound system.
     


     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 7:04 PM ET #1817

    I am sad today. My fun account is at zero. It was where I played these bets from at peanuts on the dollar and it is all gone.

    It is all Smitler's fault. He made me do it.

    Somewhere right now, Sahsla is laughing his ass off.

    GL tonight on recovery Smitler

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    I am sad today. My fun account is at zero. It was where I played these bets from at peanuts on the dollar and it is all gone.

    It is all Smitler's fault. He made me do it.

    Somewhere right now, Sahsla is laughing his ass off.

    GL tonight on recovery Smitler

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 7:19 PM ET #1818

    of course lad/atl hits
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    of course lad/atl hits
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 7:25 PM ET #1819

    like I said: all the second tier dogs scored in the 1st and the biggest dog did not score. so system went 3-1.
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 7:48 PM ET #1820

    Quote Originally Posted by vixen321:

    like I said: all the second tier dogs scored in the 1st and the biggest dog did not score. so system went 3-1.

     

     

    how long have you been playing like this?  thing is though if you have one bad night it could be as bad as a chase. so you are saying just play all the plus odds straight in that time slot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vixen321:

    like I said: all the second tier dogs scored in the 1st and the biggest dog did not score. so system went 3-1.

     

     

    how long have you been playing like this?  thing is though if you have one bad night it could be as bad as a chase. so you are saying just play all the plus odds straight in that time slot?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 8:25 PM ET #1821

    i don't get it either VIXEN.........

    not a great start to the night.

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    i don't get it either VIXEN.........

    not a great start to the night.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 9:13 PM ET #1822

    Time for me to cut bait on 1.0C. I have a B game on 1.2 tor/oak.
    All other versions have covered. I will take a 2 or 6 unit loss and see what happens tomorrow.
    Good luck.
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    Time for me to cut bait on 1.0C. I have a B game on 1.2 tor/oak.
    All other versions have covered. I will take a 2 or 6 unit loss and see what happens tomorrow.
    Good luck.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 9:28 PM ET #1823

    i just wagered 2 to win 2.5 units so if it loses im down 5 units to start the week....  might have to start playing my own way and not blindly following plus money if this loses.
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    i just wagered 2 to win 2.5 units so if it loses im down 5 units to start the week....  might have to start playing my own way and not blindly following plus money if this loses.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 10:24 PM ET #1824

    Looks like the pendulum has swung.
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    Looks like the pendulum has swung.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2010 - 10:30 PM ET #1825

    I can't believe I'm saying this, but now I am glad my fun account was at 0. I had no more money in it to blow another 3 game chase loss.

     

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