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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 3:37 AM ET #1

    Any suggested chase systems other than the "famous and too public JM system" going to be played by anyone.

    Seems in MLB/NHL we have alot of different variations of chase systems. Been browsing through alot of old threads with no much success for NBA.

    Who knows, maybe we can help each other out... !

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Any suggested chase systems other than the "famous and too public JM system" going to be played by anyone.

    Seems in MLB/NHL we have alot of different variations of chase systems. Been browsing through alot of old threads with no much success for NBA.

    Who knows, maybe we can help each other out... !

    GMSI

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 4:31 AM ET #2

    I've been doing the home stand chase in hockey this year and it's worked well. I just ran the numbers for the opposite of JM on the home chase for last year and it's not looking very profitable. It's right around 46-3. I'm going to keep working on some other things and maybe find something else.
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    I've been doing the home stand chase in hockey this year and it's worked well. I just ran the numbers for the opposite of JM on the home chase for last year and it's not looking very profitable. It's right around 46-3. I'm going to keep working on some other things and maybe find something else.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 5:21 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by hoop121:

    I just ran the numbers for the opposite of JM on the home chase for last year and it's not looking very profitable. It's right around 46-3. I'm going to keep working on some other things and maybe find something else.

    Are you doing it on a 3game chase? Are you also doing it with the 3pt buy?

    I've ran many many tests, different situations/chases etc.. Got a couple things that show potential, but have to do more work. Im trying to stay away from any point buying, so it can allow me to possibly chase a game or two more instead of laying the higher juice. The 3pt buys so far on the tests I have done do not give an advantage worthy of the juice.

    I'm testing 5years back for each scenario so it takes quite awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoop121:

    I just ran the numbers for the opposite of JM on the home chase for last year and it's not looking very profitable. It's right around 46-3. I'm going to keep working on some other things and maybe find something else.

    Are you doing it on a 3game chase? Are you also doing it with the 3pt buy?

    I've ran many many tests, different situations/chases etc.. Got a couple things that show potential, but have to do more work. Im trying to stay away from any point buying, so it can allow me to possibly chase a game or two more instead of laying the higher juice. The 3pt buys so far on the tests I have done do not give an advantage worthy of the juice.

    I'm testing 5years back for each scenario so it takes quite awhile.

    GMSI

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 6:25 AM ET #4

    this year in nba I'm taking teams that are 1575 pct and above waiting for 2 SU losses then betting to win.  I went through a couple years and tried to back test it looks ok if done on the labaurche line.

    For the home chase in hockey one thing that can be done is to see how many A bets and B bets  and C came in if A line is around 65% or more its usally profitable on the labaurche line where chasing would leave anyone broke after a 2 or 3 losses.

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    this year in nba I'm taking teams that are 1575 pct and above waiting for 2 SU losses then betting to win.  I went through a couple years and tried to back test it looks ok if done on the labaurche line.

    For the home chase in hockey one thing that can be done is to see how many A bets and B bets  and C came in if A line is around 65% or more its usally profitable on the labaurche line where chasing would leave anyone broke after a 2 or 3 losses.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 10:10 AM ET #5

    What's wrong with the JM system for NBA. 80-1 last year. How can this be bad? Especially if you don't martingale chase it.

    Is it just the buying points that has you turned off, or the fact that it is a JM system?

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    What's wrong with the JM system for NBA. 80-1 last year. How can this be bad? Especially if you don't martingale chase it.

    Is it just the buying points that has you turned off, or the fact that it is a JM system?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 11:36 AM ET #6

    nothing wrong with JM system. I'm for one am going to be doing both. and 2 systems in NHL.

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    nothing wrong with JM system. I'm for one am going to be doing both. and 2 systems in NHL.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 12:06 PM ET #7

    Ol' JM sent me an email last night. He is just stunned that I haven't bought his NBA premium service yet to get the picks a day in advance! LMAO.

     

     

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    Ol' JM sent me an email last night. He is just stunned that I haven't bought his NBA premium service yet to get the picks a day in advance! LMAO.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 2:08 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    What's wrong with the JM system for NBA. 80-1 last year. How can this be bad? Especially if you don't martingale chase it.

    Is it just the buying points that has you turned off, or the fact that it is a JM system?

    Neither, its more about how extremly popular/public it has become which has me worried. Lines will move big time this year, and most probably will be shaded from the beginning. I probably will play it, but very small.

    GMSI

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    What's wrong with the JM system for NBA. 80-1 last year. How can this be bad? Especially if you don't martingale chase it.

    Is it just the buying points that has you turned off, or the fact that it is a JM system?

    Neither, its more about how extremly popular/public it has become which has me worried. Lines will move big time this year, and most probably will be shaded from the beginning. I probably will play it, but very small.

    GMSI

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 3:00 PM ET #9

    Good concerns. I always wondered about this. Then you see what books like BetUS do with the lines to people that signed up under the JM promo code.
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    Good concerns. I always wondered about this. Then you see what books like BetUS do with the lines to people that signed up under the JM promo code.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 4:34 PM ET #10

    I just signed up with the JM system and activated my e-mail so which sportsbetting sites do you people recommend as i was reading the forums and as it apears betus is a scam? also when shal i expect to recieve my first e-mail for the nba pics? srry for these questions but i m new in this system :P
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    I just signed up with the JM system and activated my e-mail so which sportsbetting sites do you people recommend as i was reading the forums and as it apears betus is a scam? also when shal i expect to recieve my first e-mail for the nba pics? srry for these questions but i m new in this system :P
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 4:41 PM ET #11

    I will be back on the NBA V1 and V2 systems this year too.  I am basically playing the same stuff as jv040.  I also had the same concerns as GMSI with the line movement and more popular knowledge on the JM NBA plays....  What I was thinking was to maybe buy 3.5 or 4 points to cover that extra problem.  Not sure it will make a difference, but maybe 2-5 games a year??  Since I am routinely paying -200+ juice on the NHL plays, the -180 on 3.5 points bought in the NBA still won't seem all that bad.....Plus I will be winning it all back anyways, right?
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    I will be back on the NBA V1 and V2 systems this year too.  I am basically playing the same stuff as jv040.  I also had the same concerns as GMSI with the line movement and more popular knowledge on the JM NBA plays....  What I was thinking was to maybe buy 3.5 or 4 points to cover that extra problem.  Not sure it will make a difference, but maybe 2-5 games a year??  Since I am routinely paying -200+ juice on the NHL plays, the -180 on 3.5 points bought in the NBA still won't seem all that bad.....Plus I will be winning it all back anyways, right?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 4:42 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by gorsek1:

      srry for these questions but i m new in this system :P


    Obviously.  You just wasted hundreds of dollars when just browsing the first page of this forum for a few minutes you could of easily found JM's system and/or all the picks for the entire season for free.  lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gorsek1:

      srry for these questions but i m new in this system :P


    Obviously.  You just wasted hundreds of dollars when just browsing the first page of this forum for a few minutes you could of easily found JM's system and/or all the picks for the entire season for free.  lol.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 4:48 PM ET #13

    and where is that :D
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    and where is that :D
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 5:02 PM ET #14

    Come on, are you really that useless?   There are two threads alone right at the top of the forum that couldn't have more obvious titles to what you can find inside them.
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    Come on, are you really that useless?   There are two threads alone right at the top of the forum that couldn't have more obvious titles to what you can find inside them.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 4:20 AM ET #15

    So nobody is working on anything other than JM, MLB/NHL we have alot of homegrown systems here in the forum...

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    So nobody is working on anything other than JM, MLB/NHL we have alot of homegrown systems here in the forum...

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 8:41 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by gorsek1:

    I just signed up with the JM system and activated my e-mail so which sportsbetting sites do you people recommend as i was reading the forums and as it apears betus is a scam? also when shal i expect to recieve my first e-mail for the nba pics? srry for these questions but i m new in this system :P

    matchbook,  betjamacia , thegreek are all good for anyone.  if you live outside the U.S  pinnacle is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorsek1:

    I just signed up with the JM system and activated my e-mail so which sportsbetting sites do you people recommend as i was reading the forums and as it apears betus is a scam? also when shal i expect to recieve my first e-mail for the nba pics? srry for these questions but i m new in this system :P

    matchbook,  betjamacia , thegreek are all good for anyone.  if you live outside the U.S  pinnacle is the best.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 9:56 AM ET #17

    Goresk, the NBA starts Sunday, when do you think the first pick will be sent to you?
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    Goresk, the NBA starts Sunday, when do you think the first pick will be sent to you?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 9:59 AM ET #18

    Also, you are betting on the road team going on at least a 3 game trip. When do you think the first bet will be? Why do you need an email to tell you when this will occur? Look at an NBA schedule available for free at a million sites, including this one.

    Do people even read the instructions after they pay for something?

    I just can't believe these posters are for real. No way people are that dumb, just have to be playing dumb or promoting in some strange way.

     

     

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    Also, you are betting on the road team going on at least a 3 game trip. When do you think the first bet will be? Why do you need an email to tell you when this will occur? Look at an NBA schedule available for free at a million sites, including this one.

    Do people even read the instructions after they pay for something?

    I just can't believe these posters are for real. No way people are that dumb, just have to be playing dumb or promoting in some strange way.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 10:11 AM ET #19

    sorry for being new at betting every 1 was stupid at something when he first started out. I was making profit by counting cards in Blackjack till i found out about a system in betting.. Btw i never attend to play my money for where the house has the edge so it doesnt really matter if i invested 200$ dollars if i ll be making profit in the long run. I m still learning the betting systems and how they work. I wonder how you started making money with betting...And sorry if i offended anybody this wasn't my point!
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    sorry for being new at betting every 1 was stupid at something when he first started out. I was making profit by counting cards in Blackjack till i found out about a system in betting.. Btw i never attend to play my money for where the house has the edge so it doesnt really matter if i invested 200$ dollars if i ll be making profit in the long run. I m still learning the betting systems and how they work. I wonder how you started making money with betting...And sorry if i offended anybody this wasn't my point!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 10:23 AM ET #20

    Sorry to ask again, but I think my initial post got hidden in the muck.  Anyone planning on buying an extra 0.5 or 1.0 points to compensate for the house being more keen to the JM NBA system?  I feel like lines will be shaded a bit.....

    I promise if nobody answers this time, I won't ask again!

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    Sorry to ask again, but I think my initial post got hidden in the muck.  Anyone planning on buying an extra 0.5 or 1.0 points to compensate for the house being more keen to the JM NBA system?  I feel like lines will be shaded a bit.....

    I promise if nobody answers this time, I won't ask again!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 11:21 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by KMang:

    Sorry to ask again, but I think my initial post got hidden in the muck.  Anyone planning on buying an extra 0.5 or 1.0 points to compensate for the house being more keen to the JM NBA system?  I feel like lines will be shaded a bit.....

    I promise if nobody answers this time, I won't ask again!



    You cant even buy more than 3 points at my sportsbook.  Although, they offer lines for most games around 5:00PM or so the day before, I plan on grabbing them then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMang:

    Sorry to ask again, but I think my initial post got hidden in the muck.  Anyone planning on buying an extra 0.5 or 1.0 points to compensate for the house being more keen to the JM NBA system?  I feel like lines will be shaded a bit.....

    I promise if nobody answers this time, I won't ask again!



    You cant even buy more than 3 points at my sportsbook.  Although, they offer lines for most games around 5:00PM or so the day before, I plan on grabbing them then.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 12:51 PM ET #22

    Even if I could buy beyond 3, I would not.

    Gorsek, sorry to be so harsh. We are not offended, just annoyed as hell.

    You just don't realize how many times people come on here and ask basic questions they could have answered themselves by doing 5 minutes worth of reading.

    How did I learn when I started? I read. I looked at schedules and standings. I just found covers in July. I read.

    When I bought the JM NBA (man do i feel dumb now for buying that) last year, I learned BY READING THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT CAME WITH IT.

    I did not have to wait for any emails from him, b/c I knew what the first game for me was by looking at the NBA schedule.

    Spend a few hours reading this forum, and you will learn a lot. then come and ask questions beyond the obvoius basics. People will be more than happy to help when you have valid questions. 

    If you bought the system, you should ask the seller the questions you asked here if u don't understand. It's so simple.

    It would be like going to a microsoft programming forum and asking people where the printer plugs in for the new computer you just bought.

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    Even if I could buy beyond 3, I would not.

    Gorsek, sorry to be so harsh. We are not offended, just annoyed as hell.

    You just don't realize how many times people come on here and ask basic questions they could have answered themselves by doing 5 minutes worth of reading.

    How did I learn when I started? I read. I looked at schedules and standings. I just found covers in July. I read.

    When I bought the JM NBA (man do i feel dumb now for buying that) last year, I learned BY READING THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT CAME WITH IT.

    I did not have to wait for any emails from him, b/c I knew what the first game for me was by looking at the NBA schedule.

    Spend a few hours reading this forum, and you will learn a lot. then come and ask questions beyond the obvoius basics. People will be more than happy to help when you have valid questions. 

    If you bought the system, you should ask the seller the questions you asked here if u don't understand. It's so simple.

    It would be like going to a microsoft programming forum and asking people where the printer plugs in for the new computer you just bought.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 12:56 PM ET #23

    And do not sign up with BetUS. That is correct. No bouns is worth it.

    Never tell any book you are with morrison. You will get worse odds.

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    And do not sign up with BetUS. That is correct. No bouns is worth it.

    Never tell any book you are with morrison. You will get worse odds.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 7:13 AM ET #24

    ok thx for those tips i was spending hours reading this forum so hopefully i wont ask any more basic questions :P
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    ok thx for those tips i was spending hours reading this forum so hopefully i wont ask any more basic questions :P
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 1:29 PM ET #25

    Anybody have the link to the JM basketball system? or could post they system here...much appreciated.
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    Anybody have the link to the JM basketball system? or could post they system here...much appreciated.
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