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    MLB Underdog System

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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 12:57 PM ET #1

    Found another system that I was thinking about tracking. Not sure what forum it originally came from but the posters name was Azmat. I just saw some notes about it on the Rx. The system goes like this...
    • Dog of +100 to +150
    • No play if dog lost 3 in a row
    • No play if fav won 3 in a row
    • No play if going against top 20 ERA pitcher  
    The notes on said that in 2005 it was 362-388 (+43.4 units), and 2006 went 204-197(+46.4 units). Not sure if this was from flat betting or a labourchere.

    Not sure how to back test this system as it would be hard to determine which pitchers were in the top 20 at the time the games were played.

    Has anyone seen or used this system?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Found another system that I was thinking about tracking. Not sure what forum it originally came from but the posters name was Azmat. I just saw some notes about it on the Rx. The system goes like this...
    • Dog of +100 to +150
    • No play if dog lost 3 in a row
    • No play if fav won 3 in a row
    • No play if going against top 20 ERA pitcher  
    The notes on said that in 2005 it was 362-388 (+43.4 units), and 2006 went 204-197(+46.4 units). Not sure if this was from flat betting or a labourchere.

    Not sure how to back test this system as it would be hard to determine which pitchers were in the top 20 at the time the games were played.

    Has anyone seen or used this system?
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 1:20 PM ET #2

    i have seen it posted here at covers but that all i know about it and would be very hard to back test it too
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    i have seen it posted here at covers but that all i know about it and would be very hard to back test it too
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 1:32 PM ET #3

    Do you remember who posted it or how it did?
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    Do you remember who posted it or how it did?
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 3:34 PM ET #4

    Only 1 way to see how this would work. Going to try this with the labourchere to see if it has any potential. Since I cant back test this I'm going to start out small with $10 units.

    2 plays qualify today.

    5-5-5-5

    COL (+132)     10/13.20

    WAS (+135)    10/13.50




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    Only 1 way to see how this would work. Going to try this with the labourchere to see if it has any potential. Since I cant back test this I'm going to start out small with $10 units.

    2 plays qualify today.

    5-5-5-5

    COL (+132)     10/13.20

    WAS (+135)    10/13.50




     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 8:06 PM ET #5

    interesting,lets see how it will evolve.does the dog has to be an open odds dog or a close odds dog?there are teams which open at -115 and move to +107 and the opposite.what in these cases?at least you can backtest it taking in consideration the 3 of 4 rules you are writing!!

    I ve searched for a Home Dog System,take each Home Dog in a series betting at a maximum of 2 plays in the series and with odds at +100 at least.If bet A 1 U loses then bet B will be a 2 U play and you stop there the series is finished.If bet A wins you stop there and the series is done.With this way on 2008 the profit was +18.07 and on 2009 +30.92.This season so far is somewhere between -5.00--6.00 but it is still early.

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    interesting,lets see how it will evolve.does the dog has to be an open odds dog or a close odds dog?there are teams which open at -115 and move to +107 and the opposite.what in these cases?at least you can backtest it taking in consideration the 3 of 4 rules you are writing!!

    I ve searched for a Home Dog System,take each Home Dog in a series betting at a maximum of 2 plays in the series and with odds at +100 at least.If bet A 1 U loses then bet B will be a 2 U play and you stop there the series is finished.If bet A wins you stop there and the series is done.With this way on 2008 the profit was +18.07 and on 2009 +30.92.This season so far is somewhere between -5.00--6.00 but it is still early.

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 9:00 PM ET #6

    The Baseball Underdog System is based on a law of averages showing that, over the long term, MLB underdogs beat favorites about 4 games out of 9 (or 44% of the time). Even with moneyline odds on underdogs earning you better than even money -- meaning that at +130 you lay $10 to win $13 -- you need to rack up better than a record of 4 wins and 5 losses every day to make substantial profits.

     

    For example, let’s assume you bet $10 on each of 9 underdogs today, with each getting +130 moneyline odds. If you win 4 games, you profit $13 each or $52 total. But the $50 you lose when 5 favorites win gives you a slim $2 profit overall. So instead of simply betting on the underdogs in every game, you must weed out about two-thirds of the games by following my 3 simple criteria:

     

    on error resume next plugin = ( IsObject(CreateObject("ShockwaveFlash.ShockwaveFlash.4"))) Text>is this basically the same system ?? 

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    The Baseball Underdog System is based on a law of averages showing that, over the long term, MLB underdogs beat favorites about 4 games out of 9 (or 44% of the time). Even with moneyline odds on underdogs earning you better than even money -- meaning that at +130 you lay $10 to win $13 -- you need to rack up better than a record of 4 wins and 5 losses every day to make substantial profits.

     

    For example, let’s assume you bet $10 on each of 9 underdogs today, with each getting +130 moneyline odds. If you win 4 games, you profit $13 each or $52 total. But the $50 you lose when 5 favorites win gives you a slim $2 profit overall. So instead of simply betting on the underdogs in every game, you must weed out about two-thirds of the games by following my 3 simple criteria:

     

    on error resume next plugin = ( IsObject(CreateObject("ShockwaveFlash.ShockwaveFlash.4"))) Text>is this basically the same system ?? 

     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 9:01 PM ET #7

    sorry for fcking that up
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    sorry for fcking that up
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2010 - 9:32 PM ET #8

    Could only read the last 2 criteria, but those 2 does seem like it is the same system. Can you try to re post it? Have you played this system before and if so how did it do?
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    Could only read the last 2 criteria, but those 2 does seem like it is the same system. Can you try to re post it? Have you played this system before and if so how did it do?
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2010 - 5:36 AM ET #9

    I have been posting on this system since the season began first of April. You can find it here. I had to do some filters on it and they are explained in the posts. I post plays every day.

    Good luck with your efforts.

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    I have been posting on this system since the season began first of April. You can find it here. I had to do some filters on it and they are explained in the posts. I post plays every day.

    Good luck with your efforts.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2010 - 1:01 PM ET #10

    Plays for 5/2

    5-5-5-5-10-10

    OAK +142   15/21.30

    BAL +137    15/20.55

    KC +125      15/18.75

    ARI +125     15/18.75
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    Plays for 5/2

    5-5-5-5-10-10

    OAK +142   15/21.30

    BAL +137    15/20.55

    KC +125      15/18.75

    ARI +125     15/18.75
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2010 - 4:59 PM ET #11

    pm me and ill send you the link i dont think i can post it on here
    but it has been around for years developed by tony stoffo i beleive   looks similar to bruces up above
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    pm me and ill send you the link i dont think i can post it on here
    but it has been around for years developed by tony stoffo i beleive   looks similar to bruces up above
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2010 - 12:36 AM ET #12

    That system is in Frank B.'s bookie buster e-book.
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    That system is in Frank B.'s bookie buster e-book.
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2010 - 9:46 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by MCSI:

    Found another system that I was thinking about tracking. Not sure what forum it originally came from but the posters name was Azmat. I just saw some notes about it on the Rx. The system goes like this...
    • Dog of +100 to +150
    • No play if dog lost 3 in a row
    • No play if fav won 3 in a row
    • No play if going against top 20 ERA pitcher  
    The notes on said that in 2005 it was 362-388 (+43.4 units), and 2006 went 204-197(+46.4 units). Not sure if this was from flat betting or a labourchere.

    Not sure how to back test this system as it would be hard to determine which pitchers were in the top 20 at the time the games were played.

    Has anyone seen or used this system?


    Its up 17.328 units since April 17, 2010.
    Unless Im playing it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCSI:

    Found another system that I was thinking about tracking. Not sure what forum it originally came from but the posters name was Azmat. I just saw some notes about it on the Rx. The system goes like this...
    • Dog of +100 to +150
    • No play if dog lost 3 in a row
    • No play if fav won 3 in a row
    • No play if going against top 20 ERA pitcher  
    The notes on said that in 2005 it was 362-388 (+43.4 units), and 2006 went 204-197(+46.4 units). Not sure if this was from flat betting or a labourchere.

    Not sure how to back test this system as it would be hard to determine which pitchers were in the top 20 at the time the games were played.

    Has anyone seen or used this system?


    Its up 17.328 units since April 17, 2010.
    Unless Im playing it wrong.
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2010 - 11:16 AM ET #14

    Plays for 5-3-10
    Mets+120
    LAA+140
    Tigers+120
    Texas+120
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    Plays for 5-3-10
    Mets+120
    LAA+140
    Tigers+120
    Texas+120
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2010 - 12:26 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by ferndog:

    Plays for 5-3-10
    Mets+120
    LAA+140
    Tigers+120
    Texas+120


    Angels have lost three in a row - No Play
    Detroit has won 3 or more in a row (5) - No Play
    Texas has won 3 in a row - No Play

    The plays I have are NYM and KC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferndog:

    Plays for 5-3-10
    Mets+120
    LAA+140
    Tigers+120
    Texas+120


    Angels have lost three in a row - No Play
    Detroit has won 3 or more in a row (5) - No Play
    Texas has won 3 in a row - No Play

    The plays I have are NYM and KC.
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2010 - 12:36 PM ET #16

    Right Angels lost 3 in a row. But KC at some books is over +150. So play at your own risk. Texas is a play because the rules did not say to not play a dog who has won 3 in a row. It says to not play against a fav who won 3 in a row.
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    Right Angels lost 3 in a row. But KC at some books is over +150. So play at your own risk. Texas is a play because the rules did not say to not play a dog who has won 3 in a row. It says to not play against a fav who won 3 in a row.
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2010 - 12:37 PM ET #17

    So Tigers are also a play
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    So Tigers are also a play
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2010 - 12:39 PM ET #18

    I guess Ive been playing it wrong then.
    I don't play any games involving a 3+ game streak.

    Good luck on the games!
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    I guess Ive been playing it wrong then.
    I don't play any games involving a 3+ game streak.

    Good luck on the games!
     
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2010 - 1:01 PM ET #19

    If the team you are betting against has won 3 in a row then don't take the dog. Don't worry if the dog has won 3 or whatever games in a row. It's even better because you are betting a hot team that is a dog. GL
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    If the team you are betting against has won 3 in a row then don't take the dog. Don't worry if the dog has won 3 or whatever games in a row. It's even better because you are betting a hot team that is a dog. GL
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