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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2015 - 2:40 AM ET #51

    Wow. What a system .  10k  bankroll to chase. Will see when you give it up. Too much work for nothing. Lol
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    Wow. What a system .  10k  bankroll to chase. Will see when you give it up. Too much work for nothing. Lol
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2015 - 8:15 AM ET #52

    i think TIGERS are not a play today, because they lose by <5 yesterday, the rule says to skip 2 games
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    i think TIGERS are not a play today, because they lose by <5 yesterday, the rule says to skip 2 games
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2015 - 8:31 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by donfernando:

    i think TIGERS are not a play today, because they lose by <5 yesterday, the rule says to skip 2 games

    Thanks for the input. They lost >5 in the middle of a Chase. Bart skips two games in this scenario; I keep chasing. Personally, I don't see the edge in skipping two more games - but admittedly I haven't back-tested to see which method is more profitable long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donfernando:

    i think TIGERS are not a play today, because they lose by <5 yesterday, the rule says to skip 2 games

    Thanks for the input. They lost >5 in the middle of a Chase. Bart skips two games in this scenario; I keep chasing. Personally, I don't see the edge in skipping two more games - but admittedly I haven't back-tested to see which method is more profitable long term.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2015 - 9:56 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:


    Thanks for the input. They lost >5 in the middle of a Chase. Bart skips two games in this scenario; I keep chasing. Personally, I don't see the edge in skipping two more games - but admittedly I haven't back-tested to see which method is more profitable long term.


    with the original rules: skip 2 games after a loss of 5+, and taking dogs on RL+1.5, since 2010 the record is 352 - 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:


    Thanks for the input. They lost >5 in the middle of a Chase. Bart skips two games in this scenario; I keep chasing. Personally, I don't see the edge in skipping two more games - but admittedly I haven't back-tested to see which method is more profitable long term.


    with the original rules: skip 2 games after a loss of 5+, and taking dogs on RL+1.5, since 2010 the record is 352 - 3

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2015 - 11:36 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by donfernando:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:

    Thanks for the input. They lost >5 in the middle of a Chase. Bart skips two games in this scenario; I keep chasing. Personally, I don't see the edge in skipping two more games - but admittedly I haven't back-tested to see which method is more profitable long term.
    with the original rules: skip 2 games after a loss of 5+, and taking dogs on RL+1.5, since 2010 the record is 352 - 3


    Thanks, man. That is pretty impressive. If things don't go well this season I will probably play by the original rules.

    I do know flwareagle played the system without skipping two games during a Chase and did pretty well two seasons ago. Personally, I don't get the logic of why a series would lose its value because a team won or lost by 5+ in one of the games. But Chase systems are pretty illogical to start with, and Bart and Cisco have a long track record of success, so it may be worth sticking to the original rules. It's a long season; we will see. Best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donfernando:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:

    Thanks for the input. They lost >5 in the middle of a Chase. Bart skips two games in this scenario; I keep chasing. Personally, I don't see the edge in skipping two more games - but admittedly I haven't back-tested to see which method is more profitable long term.
    with the original rules: skip 2 games after a loss of 5+, and taking dogs on RL+1.5, since 2010 the record is 352 - 3


    Thanks, man. That is pretty impressive. If things don't go well this season I will probably play by the original rules.

    I do know flwareagle played the system without skipping two games during a Chase and did pretty well two seasons ago. Personally, I don't get the logic of why a series would lose its value because a team won or lost by 5+ in one of the games. But Chase systems are pretty illogical to start with, and Bart and Cisco have a long track record of success, so it may be worth sticking to the original rules. It's a long season; we will see. Best of luck.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2015 - 11:16 PM ET #56

    I do know flwareagle played the system without skipping two games during a Chase and did pretty well two seasons ago. Personally, I don't get the logic of why a series would lose its value because a team won or lost by 5+ in one of the games. But Chase systems are pretty illogical to start with, and Bart and Cisco have a long track record of success, so it may be worth sticking to the original rules. It's a long season; we will see. Best of luck.
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    i think the explanation cisco give is to eliminate a provably bad streak that the team may be going on
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    I do know flwareagle played the system without skipping two games during a Chase and did pretty well two seasons ago. Personally, I don't get the logic of why a series would lose its value because a team won or lost by 5+ in one of the games. But Chase systems are pretty illogical to start with, and Bart and Cisco have a long track record of success, so it may be worth sticking to the original rules. It's a long season; we will see. Best of luck.
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    i think the explanation cisco give is to eliminate a provably bad streak that the team may be going on
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2015 - 3:31 PM ET #57

    Really sorry guys.. I have barely any internet access this weekend. It should be the last time this happens. I'm finishing out the remaining series but won't start any new ones until Monday.
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    Really sorry guys.. I have barely any internet access this weekend. It should be the last time this happens. I'm finishing out the remaining series but won't start any new ones until Monday.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2015 - 9:07 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:


    Hey man, sorry for the late reply and the mistake. I'll be much more responsive after May 9th; I'm traveling through Europe until then and my internet access is limited.

    The play was a Texas fade; you should have been able to tell due to the under .470 record and the fact that they're on the 10 teams to be faded in April - but it's my fault for the error. 

    what part of Europe are you travelling though? 
    I used to go once a year for 3-4 weeks before I settled down and started a family. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:


    Hey man, sorry for the late reply and the mistake. I'll be much more responsive after May 9th; I'm traveling through Europe until then and my internet access is limited.

    The play was a Texas fade; you should have been able to tell due to the under .470 record and the fact that they're on the 10 teams to be faded in April - but it's my fault for the error. 

    what part of Europe are you travelling though? 
    I used to go once a year for 3-4 weeks before I settled down and started a family. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2015 - 7:14 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_:


    what part of Europe are you travelling though? 
    I used to go once a year for 3-4 weeks before I settled down and started a family. 

    Really?? That's awesome, man. I'm studying in Italy and hitting most of the major European cities on the weekends. It's a great place; the lack of Internet/ cellular service has been rough though. I've developed a pretty strong hatred for US cell phone companies. Haha 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_:


    what part of Europe are you travelling though? 
    I used to go once a year for 3-4 weeks before I settled down and started a family. 

    Really?? That's awesome, man. I'm studying in Italy and hitting most of the major European cities on the weekends. It's a great place; the lack of Internet/ cellular service has been rough though. I've developed a pretty strong hatred for US cell phone companies. Haha 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2015 - 7:32 AM ET #60

    After some careful thought (brought on by the Detroit loss), I've decided to stick with the original rules of the 5 run chases for the remainder of the season. There's no use in changing what works without a really strong reason. 

    Hence, there won't be much of a difference between this thread and Bart's google doc outside of the home fade system. However, if I hit my unit goal in an individual subsystem, I will probably run a one line labby with it for the rest of the season. That will be a little different.

    Today

    A. Marlins fade +1.5 (should technically be a D bet, but I'm picking up the series here after missing the first three games)
    A. Rangers fade +1.5 
    A. Twins fade 

    *A. Tigers (double play - no action)

    YTD Chase Record: 12-1
    Unit count: -18.62

    A. 6-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
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    After some careful thought (brought on by the Detroit loss), I've decided to stick with the original rules of the 5 run chases for the remainder of the season. There's no use in changing what works without a really strong reason. 

    Hence, there won't be much of a difference between this thread and Bart's google doc outside of the home fade system. However, if I hit my unit goal in an individual subsystem, I will probably run a one line labby with it for the rest of the season. That will be a little different.

    Today

    A. Marlins fade +1.5 (should technically be a D bet, but I'm picking up the series here after missing the first three games)
    A. Rangers fade +1.5 
    A. Twins fade 

    *A. Tigers (double play - no action)

    YTD Chase Record: 12-1
    Unit count: -18.62

    A. 6-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2015 - 11:54 AM ET #61

    Where in Italy?
    My wife is from Vinci, near Florence. Fantastic area. Last time I was there was in 2013.
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    Where in Italy?
    My wife is from Vinci, near Florence. Fantastic area. Last time I was there was in 2013.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2015 - 4:17 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_:

    Where in Italy?
    My wife is from Vinci, near Florence. Fantastic area. Last time I was there was in 2013.

    Florence, actually. What a small world. And the Tuscan girls are fantastic, well done sir 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_:

    Where in Italy?
    My wife is from Vinci, near Florence. Fantastic area. Last time I was there was in 2013.

    Florence, actually. What a small world. And the Tuscan girls are fantastic, well done sir 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2015 - 7:47 PM ET #63

    Are you coming back for good in May?
    We are thinking about going there in September for a wedding.
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    Are you coming back for good in May?
    We are thinking about going there in September for a wedding.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2015 - 1:33 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_:

    Are you coming back for good in May?
    We are thinking about going there in September for a wedding.

    For now, but I do hope to return sometime soon. You'll have to lett me know if you go. Hopefully we can finance a trip with some winnings here. *crosses fingers*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart_:

    Are you coming back for good in May?
    We are thinking about going there in September for a wedding.

    For now, but I do hope to return sometime soon. You'll have to lett me know if you go. Hopefully we can finance a trip with some winnings here. *crosses fingers*
     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2015 - 1:36 PM ET #65

    Today

    A Marlins fade +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 15-1
    Unit count: -15.62

    A. 9-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
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    Today

    A Marlins fade +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 15-1
    Unit count: -15.62

    A. 9-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2015 - 8:03 AM ET #66

    Today

    No plays, next possible one is May 2nd.

    YTD Chase Record: 16-1
    Unit count: -14.62

    A. 10-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
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    Today

    No plays, next possible one is May 2nd.

    YTD Chase Record: 16-1
    Unit count: -14.62

    A. 10-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2015 - 9:56 AM ET #67

    Today

    A. Giants fade +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 16-1
    Unit count: -14.62

    A. 10-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
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    A. Giants fade +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 16-1
    Unit count: -14.62

    A. 10-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2015 - 10:18 AM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:

    Today

    A. Giants fade +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 16-1
    Unit count: -14.62

    A. 10-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
         BET LAA +1.5 -230
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:

    Today

    A. Giants fade +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 16-1
    Unit count: -14.62

    A. 10-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
         BET LAA +1.5 -230
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2015 - 6:06 AM ET #69

    Today

    No plays

    YTD Chase Record: 17-1
    Unit count: -13.62

    A. 11-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
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    No plays

    YTD Chase Record: 17-1
    Unit count: -13.62

    A. 11-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
     
    TheBeefMan
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    Posted: May. 3, 2015 - 6:53 AM ET #70

    Today

    A. Detroit
    A. Minnesota fade +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 17-1
    Unit count: -13.62

    A. 11-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
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    A. Detroit
    A. Minnesota fade +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 17-1
    Unit count: -13.62

    A. 11-7
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
     
    jay1234
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    Posted: May. 3, 2015 - 1:02 PM ET #71

    BEING 17-1 AND DOWN MONEY THATS NOT GOOD 
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    Posted: May. 4, 2015 - 3:23 AM ET #72

    It's a long season, friend. 

    That said, nothing's guaranteed; there's always a chance this won't be profitable. 

    Quote Originally Posted by jay1234:

    BEING 17-1 AND DOWN MONEY THATS NOT GOOD 
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    It's a long season, friend. 

    That said, nothing's guaranteed; there's always a chance this won't be profitable. 

    Quote Originally Posted by jay1234:

    BEING 17-1 AND DOWN MONEY THATS NOT GOOD 
     
    TheBeefMan
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    Posted: May. 4, 2015 - 3:28 AM ET #73

    Today

    A. Toronto +1.5
    A. Brewers +1.5
    A. Rockies +1.5
    A. Washington

    YTD Chase Record: 18-1 (1 pending)
    Unit count: -12.62

    A. 12-8
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
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    A. Toronto +1.5
    A. Brewers +1.5
    A. Rockies +1.5
    A. Washington

    YTD Chase Record: 18-1 (1 pending)
    Unit count: -12.62

    A. 12-8
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
     
    TheBeefMan
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    Posted: May. 4, 2015 - 2:34 PM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:

    Today

    A. Toronto +1.5
    A. Brewers +1.5
    A. Rockies +1.5
    A. Washington

    YTD Chase Record: 18-1 (1 pending)
    Unit count: -12.62

    A. 12-8
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1

    Sorry guys, these should all be fades. Meaning: You should be betting against the teams I listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:

    Today

    A. Toronto +1.5
    A. Brewers +1.5
    A. Rockies +1.5
    A. Washington

    YTD Chase Record: 18-1 (1 pending)
    Unit count: -12.62

    A. 12-8
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1

    Sorry guys, these should all be fades. Meaning: You should be betting against the teams I listed.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2015 - 8:15 AM ET #75

    Today

    B. Toronto fade
    B. Washington fade +1.5
    B. Brewers fade
    A. Rockies fade
    A. Indians fade
    A. Cubs +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 18-1 (4 pending)
    Unit count: -12.62 

    A. 12-11
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
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    B. Toronto fade
    B. Washington fade +1.5
    B. Brewers fade
    A. Rockies fade
    A. Indians fade
    A. Cubs +1.5

    YTD Chase Record: 18-1 (4 pending)
    Unit count: -12.62 

    A. 12-11
    B. 5-2
    C. 0-2
    D. 1-1
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