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    Luckydan
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2012 - 9:57 AM ET #76

     

    Example of plus money system for underdogs: On 5-13-2010 the Washington Nationals were +175 against the Colorado Rockies. The Nationals won, so that mean you are done betting on the Nationals as an underdog against the Rockies in that series. You have to wait until they fit in the plus category for underdogs when they start a new series.


    I noticed that the CWS and KC were included in this spread sheet for games AFTER they won a game in the their last respective series. According to the paragraph above (post #1), once you win as a dog, you wait for the next series. Please advise.


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    Example of plus money system for underdogs: On 5-13-2010 the Washington Nationals were +175 against the Colorado Rockies. The Nationals won, so that mean you are done betting on the Nationals as an underdog against the Rockies in that series. You have to wait until they fit in the plus category for underdogs when they start a new series.


    I noticed that the CWS and KC were included in this spread sheet for games AFTER they won a game in the their last respective series. According to the paragraph above (post #1), once you win as a dog, you wait for the next series. Please advise.


    Thanks.


    Good Luck.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2012 - 10:37 AM ET #77

    mike is the creator of this system. he claims to be. he posted in covers forum in 2010 that he would take a dog in the same series if the lines were between 135 and 195.  if the team won already as a dog between -105 and -135 on the -1.5.  I don't agree with him but that's how I have been posting. his covers name is mlb1234
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    mike is the creator of this system. he claims to be. he posted in covers forum in 2010 that he would take a dog in the same series if the lines were between 135 and 195.  if the team won already as a dog between -105 and -135 on the -1.5.  I don't agree with him but that's how I have been posting. his covers name is mlb1234
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2012 - 2:13 PM ET #78

    Post #62 (not a VFW facility) shows the breakdown for 2010 using the dog system. It appears to me that once you won in a series, you did not play again until a new series began with the required parameters.

    Good Luck.
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    Post #62 (not a VFW facility) shows the breakdown for 2010 using the dog system. It appears to me that once you won in a series, you did not play again until a new series began with the required parameters.

    Good Luck.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2012 - 2:46 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckydan:

    Post #62 (not a VFW facility) shows the breakdown for 2010 using the dog system. It appears to me that once you won in a series, you did not play again until a new series began with the required parameters.

    Good Luck.


    right have to wait for new series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckydan:

    Post #62 (not a VFW facility) shows the breakdown for 2010 using the dog system. It appears to me that once you won in a series, you did not play again until a new series began with the required parameters.

    Good Luck.


    right have to wait for new series.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2012 - 9:37 AM ET #80

    aprill 11 plays

    https://tinyurl.com/7rkpsd2

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    aprill 11 plays

    https://tinyurl.com/7rkpsd2

     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2012 - 11:37 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by jv040:

    mike is the creator of this system. he claims to be. he posted in covers forum in 2010 that he would take a dog in the same series if the lines were between 135 and 195.  if the team won already as a dog between -105 and -135 on the -1.5.  I don't agree with him but that's how I have been posting. his covers name is mlb1234

    jv

    i looked over ur spreadsheet. you are pretty close to doing it right. if you would like too see the excel sheet that i am doing pm your email and i will forward it to you so you can see some of the games you are missing. as of today 4/12 you should be up 23% on starting bankroll. continued success with your season

    mike

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jv040:

    mike is the creator of this system. he claims to be. he posted in covers forum in 2010 that he would take a dog in the same series if the lines were between 135 and 195.  if the team won already as a dog between -105 and -135 on the -1.5.  I don't agree with him but that's how I have been posting. his covers name is mlb1234

    jv

    i looked over ur spreadsheet. you are pretty close to doing it right. if you would like too see the excel sheet that i am doing pm your email and i will forward it to you so you can see some of the games you are missing. as of today 4/12 you should be up 23% on starting bankroll. continued success with your season

    mike

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2012 - 6:46 AM ET #82

    mike we need to be friends first. I sent a friends request.
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    mike we need to be friends first. I sent a friends request.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2012 - 8:54 AM ET #83

    mike my e-mail address is in the right hand corner when looking at the spread sheet.
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    mike my e-mail address is in the right hand corner when looking at the spread sheet.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2012 - 8:55 AM ET #84

    plays for april 12

    https://tinyurl.com/7rkpsd2
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    plays for april 12

    https://tinyurl.com/7rkpsd2
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2012 - 9:17 PM ET #85

    this is the link to the spread sheet for this year. Mike the creator of this system sent me.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqn-cwW9X-z6dHowV0VwamhsTVUzR1pOS3F5OTAySnc

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    this is the link to the spread sheet for this year. Mike the creator of this system sent me.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqn-cwW9X-z6dHowV0VwamhsTVUzR1pOS3F5OTAySnc

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2012 - 9:53 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by jv040:

    this is the link to the spread sheet for this year. Mike the creator of this system sent me.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqn-cwW9X-z6dHowV0VwamhsTVUzR1pOS3F5OTAySnc

    thaks,man,  he had play 2 fav ml ,but the rest is according to the system
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    Quote Originally Posted by jv040:

    this is the link to the spread sheet for this year. Mike the creator of this system sent me.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqn-cwW9X-z6dHowV0VwamhsTVUzR1pOS3F5OTAySnc

    thaks,man,  he had play 2 fav ml ,but the rest is according to the system
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2012 - 10:28 PM ET #87

    Thanks for the update. This is to address the dog system.

    I was wondering why the 4/9 game with Miami and Philadelphia was not included. The consensus number was anywhere from +135 to +140. It was a winning play but not included in the spread sheet.

    Also, I did not see a +195 or less on the LAD/Pittsburgh game on 4/10. Most numbers were +200 or more. Perhaps one book might have had a qualifying number. It was a losing play but a play nonetheless according to the spread sheet.

    I saw a few +135s online for the 4/10 NY/BLT game. It was not included in the spread sheet. I am sure that anyone on the East coast probably had at least +135 or more on Baltimore with their locals. It was a losing play if played.

    Not a criticism but a concern on whether or not to pull the trigger on games with numbers so close to the parameters set. Also, the timing of when numbers are released are a concern. Tonight's LA/Pittsburgh game is a play if made last night or earlier this morning, but is not a play if one was only able to get numbers this afternoon or evening. Tough call.

    Thanks.

    Good Luck.
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    Thanks for the update. This is to address the dog system.

    I was wondering why the 4/9 game with Miami and Philadelphia was not included. The consensus number was anywhere from +135 to +140. It was a winning play but not included in the spread sheet.

    Also, I did not see a +195 or less on the LAD/Pittsburgh game on 4/10. Most numbers were +200 or more. Perhaps one book might have had a qualifying number. It was a losing play but a play nonetheless according to the spread sheet.

    I saw a few +135s online for the 4/10 NY/BLT game. It was not included in the spread sheet. I am sure that anyone on the East coast probably had at least +135 or more on Baltimore with their locals. It was a losing play if played.

    Not a criticism but a concern on whether or not to pull the trigger on games with numbers so close to the parameters set. Also, the timing of when numbers are released are a concern. Tonight's LA/Pittsburgh game is a play if made last night or earlier this morning, but is not a play if one was only able to get numbers this afternoon or evening. Tough call.

    Thanks.

    Good Luck.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2012 - 11:10 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by ERBATIZ:

    thaks,man,  he had play 2 fav ml ,but the rest is according to the system

    I am gonna play the favorites on ML for D bets this year. as you can notice favorites have been pretty bad this season so far, so for insurance will play them just to win on D bets only

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERBATIZ:

    thaks,man,  he had play 2 fav ml ,but the rest is according to the system

    I am gonna play the favorites on ML for D bets this year. as you can notice favorites have been pretty bad this season so far, so for insurance will play them just to win on D bets only

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2012 - 11:12 PM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckydan:

    Thanks for the update. This is to address the dog system.

    I was wondering why the 4/9 game with Miami and Philadelphia was not included. The consensus number was anywhere from +135 to +140. It was a winning play but not included in the spread sheet.

    Also, I did not see a +195 or less on the LAD/Pittsburgh game on 4/10. Most numbers were +200 or more. Perhaps one book might have had a qualifying number. It was a losing play but a play nonetheless according to the spread sheet.

    I saw a few +135s online for the 4/10 NY/BLT game. It was not included in the spread sheet. I am sure that anyone on the East coast probably had at least +135 or more on Baltimore with their locals. It was a losing play if played.

    Not a criticism but a concern on whether or not to pull the trigger on games with numbers so close to the parameters set. Also, the timing of when numbers are released are a concern. Tonight's LA/Pittsburgh game is a play if made last night or earlier this morning, but is not a play if one was only able to get numbers this afternoon or evening. Tough call.

    Thanks.

    Good Luck.

    I play all my games as soon as lines are posted that way there is no indecision especially when lines are borderline. Some days it works in my favor somedays not. gotta take good with bad. Bookmaker always has lines up early

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckydan:

    Thanks for the update. This is to address the dog system.

    I was wondering why the 4/9 game with Miami and Philadelphia was not included. The consensus number was anywhere from +135 to +140. It was a winning play but not included in the spread sheet.

    Also, I did not see a +195 or less on the LAD/Pittsburgh game on 4/10. Most numbers were +200 or more. Perhaps one book might have had a qualifying number. It was a losing play but a play nonetheless according to the spread sheet.

    I saw a few +135s online for the 4/10 NY/BLT game. It was not included in the spread sheet. I am sure that anyone on the East coast probably had at least +135 or more on Baltimore with their locals. It was a losing play if played.

    Not a criticism but a concern on whether or not to pull the trigger on games with numbers so close to the parameters set. Also, the timing of when numbers are released are a concern. Tonight's LA/Pittsburgh game is a play if made last night or earlier this morning, but is not a play if one was only able to get numbers this afternoon or evening. Tough call.

    Thanks.

    Good Luck.

    I play all my games as soon as lines are posted that way there is no indecision especially when lines are borderline. Some days it works in my favor somedays not. gotta take good with bad. Bookmaker always has lines up early

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2012 - 12:18 AM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by mlb1234:

    I play all my games as soon as lines are posted that way there is no indecision especially when lines are borderline. Some days it works in my favor somedays not. gotta take good with bad. Bookmaker always has lines up early



    Does a B game always trump an A game in either system? Is that why you played PHA on 4/9?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlb1234:

    I play all my games as soon as lines are posted that way there is no indecision especially when lines are borderline. Some days it works in my favor somedays not. gotta take good with bad. Bookmaker always has lines up early



    Does a B game always trump an A game in either system? Is that why you played PHA on 4/9?

    Thanks.

    Good Luck
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2012 - 12:35 AM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckydan:



    Does a B game always trump an A game in either system? Is that why you played PHA on 4/9?

    Thanks.

    Good Luck

    no i played philly because i was getting +140 on RL and only +130 on Fla. sometimes i guess wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckydan:



    Does a B game always trump an A game in either system? Is that why you played PHA on 4/9?

    Thanks.

    Good Luck

    no i played philly because i was getting +140 on RL and only +130 on Fla. sometimes i guess wrong

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2012 - 6:01 AM ET #92

    I think I understand everything now about the way plays are posted. I'm going with bookmaker opening lines.
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    I think I understand everything now about the way plays are posted. I'm going with bookmaker opening lines.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jv040:

    I think I understand everything now about the way plays are posted. I'm going with bookmaker opening lines.


    even if you get a shorter price than what the system requires?

    Good Luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jv040:

    I think I understand everything now about the way plays are posted. I'm going with bookmaker opening lines.


    even if you get a shorter price than what the system requires?

    Good Luck.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2012 - 9:34 AM ET #94

    I have one question. nyy and bos played on 4/09/11  4/10/11
    on 4/09  nyy  139  9-4
    on 4/10 nyy    -117 

    would this make nyy a play on 4/10
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    I have one question. nyy and bos played on 4/09/11  4/10/11
    on 4/09  nyy  139  9-4
    on 4/10 nyy    -117 

    would this make nyy a play on 4/10
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2012 - 10:27 AM ET #95

    I'm starting all qualafying teams over at 1 unit  because I was posting some teams wrong. now I know what I'm  doing I think.
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    I'm starting all qualafying teams over at 1 unit  because I was posting some teams wrong. now I know what I'm  doing I think.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2012 - 10:55 AM ET #96

    plays for April 13

    https://tinyurl.com/7rkpsd2
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    plays for April 13

    https://tinyurl.com/7rkpsd2
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2012 - 12:18 AM ET #97

    Thanks for your work JV.  I wouldn't worry too much about any online books getting too wound up about this or any other system.  There's a fairly small number of players who actually stick to a system consistently.  Lots of cold feet at the end of chases, plus I don't think the chase model in general appeals very much to most gamblers. 
    That said, I love the spreadsheet.  It really makes things clear.  Great help from Cisco there, and thanks to Mike for coming in and showing you the finer points. 
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    Thanks for your work JV.  I wouldn't worry too much about any online books getting too wound up about this or any other system.  There's a fairly small number of players who actually stick to a system consistently.  Lots of cold feet at the end of chases, plus I don't think the chase model in general appeals very much to most gamblers. 
    That said, I love the spreadsheet.  It really makes things clear.  Great help from Cisco there, and thanks to Mike for coming in and showing you the finer points. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2012 - 1:20 AM ET #98

    pretty good start to season considering favorites have been so bad. overall record 38W 52L 42.2% with a 37.9% ROI. For u players who do "units" im up 25.26U. Need to get to 33,3 U to increase to next bet level. Hopefully after tomorrow we will be there. continued success

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    pretty good start to season considering favorites have been so bad. overall record 38W 52L 42.2% with a 37.9% ROI. For u players who do "units" im up 25.26U. Need to get to 33,3 U to increase to next bet level. Hopefully after tomorrow we will be there. continued success

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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2012 - 1:48 AM ET #99

    Hi Mike, I'm sure you have to constantly deal with getting new people up to speed, but I'm looking hard at this system trying to figure out the angles.  Progressive betting has been growing on me, as it seems like it can be a very powerful tool when used with the right filter (I'm just about finished up with a NBA 2Q chase system I came up with and am posting across the street that has gone 64-0 this year). 
    Any chance to get something of a historical breakdown on the two system's performances?  If I play both sides, it basically means I have to drop everything else I'm doing with MLB to avoid conflicts, so I'd like to have a solid idea of what the risk reward is.  Cisco and TerribleCapper (now across the street again) both have some well constructed systems, but the sheer volume of your system means possibly a higher end return, as long as the number of system losses is contained (15% of BR). 
    I'll shoot you a friend request if you'd prefer to answer that way. 
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    Hi Mike, I'm sure you have to constantly deal with getting new people up to speed, but I'm looking hard at this system trying to figure out the angles.  Progressive betting has been growing on me, as it seems like it can be a very powerful tool when used with the right filter (I'm just about finished up with a NBA 2Q chase system I came up with and am posting across the street that has gone 64-0 this year). 
    Any chance to get something of a historical breakdown on the two system's performances?  If I play both sides, it basically means I have to drop everything else I'm doing with MLB to avoid conflicts, so I'd like to have a solid idea of what the risk reward is.  Cisco and TerribleCapper (now across the street again) both have some well constructed systems, but the sheer volume of your system means possibly a higher end return, as long as the number of system losses is contained (15% of BR). 
    I'll shoot you a friend request if you'd prefer to answer that way. 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodisattva:

    Hi Mike, I'm sure you have to constantly deal with getting new people up to speed, but I'm looking hard at this system trying to figure out the angles.  Progressive betting has been growing on me, as it seems like it can be a very powerful tool when used with the right filter (I'm just about finished up with a NBA 2Q chase system I came up with and am posting across the street that has gone 64-0 this year). 
    Any chance to get something of a historical breakdown on the two system's performances?  If I play both sides, it basically means I have to drop everything else I'm doing with MLB to avoid conflicts, so I'd like to have a solid idea of what the risk reward is.  Cisco and TerribleCapper (now across the street again) both have some well constructed systems, but the sheer volume of your system means possibly a higher end return, as long as the number of system losses is contained (15% of BR). 
    I'll shoot you a friend request if you'd prefer to answer that way. 

    go ahead and pm and we can set up a time to talk. i have no problems with that at all. i have spoken to a few people here already.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodisattva:

    Hi Mike, I'm sure you have to constantly deal with getting new people up to speed, but I'm looking hard at this system trying to figure out the angles.  Progressive betting has been growing on me, as it seems like it can be a very powerful tool when used with the right filter (I'm just about finished up with a NBA 2Q chase system I came up with and am posting across the street that has gone 64-0 this year). 
    Any chance to get something of a historical breakdown on the two system's performances?  If I play both sides, it basically means I have to drop everything else I'm doing with MLB to avoid conflicts, so I'd like to have a solid idea of what the risk reward is.  Cisco and TerribleCapper (now across the street again) both have some well constructed systems, but the sheer volume of your system means possibly a higher end return, as long as the number of system losses is contained (15% of BR). 
    I'll shoot you a friend request if you'd prefer to answer that way. 

    go ahead and pm and we can set up a time to talk. i have no problems with that at all. i have spoken to a few people here already.

     

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