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    DegenGamble
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2012 - 7:58 PM ET #551

    SDG - just became the DOG - i'm out too much movement
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    SDG - just became the DOG - i'm out too much movement
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2012 - 8:01 PM ET #552

    Correct choice, wait till Thursday.

    I looked at Houston and everything favors them. I'd leave this alone.
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    Correct choice, wait till Thursday.

    I looked at Houston and everything favors them. I'd leave this alone.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2012 - 8:11 PM ET #553

    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    I do like the PIT bet - if they stay a DOG i'm all over it.  Let's hope.

    You got McDonald (PIT) - ranked 3rd in Cat A on Sagarin Rating

    VS

    Vades ranked 6th in Cat B on Sagarin Rating.

     

    Irage - do you think instead of ERA filter - it would be better to use the Sagarin ranking filter?

    So basically use all the other filters you outlined and use the Sagarin Ratings to make the final cut.

    So for example today

    MIL vs CIN - would have taken MIL is the DOG with Greinke having the better rank AND CIN was going for the sweep.

    Result:W

    NYM vs CHC - Cubs were the DOG but they were going for the sweep - plus NYM had a slighlty better pitcher rating

    Result: Would have laid off because of sweep and pitching ADV

     

    OAK vs SEA - SEA the DOG - has better pitching edge

    Result: TBD - but I took em

     

    PIT vs PHI - PIT the DOG - Mcd has a huge pitching edge on Valdes - as long as PIT stays the DOG - i'm all over it

    Result: TBD

     

    SDP vs HOU - SDP the DOG - but only has a slight edge per Sagarin rating on HOU - this would be a use your discretion - but probably lay off

    Result: Prob lay off



    I need to look at the percentage o DOG's with better pitching ERA's. It seems like the DOG's that have betters ERA's win more often.

    I am looking at other sites to gather the information, but the problem is....this is a line based strategy and the lines are constantly moving based on bets. I love bets that have little line movements, those are winning a high percentage of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    I do like the PIT bet - if they stay a DOG i'm all over it.  Let's hope.

    You got McDonald (PIT) - ranked 3rd in Cat A on Sagarin Rating

    VS

    Vades ranked 6th in Cat B on Sagarin Rating.

     

    Irage - do you think instead of ERA filter - it would be better to use the Sagarin ranking filter?

    So basically use all the other filters you outlined and use the Sagarin Ratings to make the final cut.

    So for example today

    MIL vs CIN - would have taken MIL is the DOG with Greinke having the better rank AND CIN was going for the sweep.

    Result:W

    NYM vs CHC - Cubs were the DOG but they were going for the sweep - plus NYM had a slighlty better pitcher rating

    Result: Would have laid off because of sweep and pitching ADV

     

    OAK vs SEA - SEA the DOG - has better pitching edge

    Result: TBD - but I took em

     

    PIT vs PHI - PIT the DOG - Mcd has a huge pitching edge on Valdes - as long as PIT stays the DOG - i'm all over it

    Result: TBD

     

    SDP vs HOU - SDP the DOG - but only has a slight edge per Sagarin rating on HOU - this would be a use your discretion - but probably lay off

    Result: Prob lay off



    I need to look at the percentage o DOG's with better pitching ERA's. It seems like the DOG's that have betters ERA's win more often.

    I am looking at other sites to gather the information, but the problem is....this is a line based strategy and the lines are constantly moving based on bets. I love bets that have little line movements, those are winning a high percentage of the time.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2012 - 8:16 PM ET #554

    I would have taken Brewers if I'd seen that line change to make them the DOG. I should have passed just based the on the number of line movements.
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    I would have taken Brewers if I'd seen that line change to make them the DOG. I should have passed just based the on the number of line movements.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2012 - 10:52 PM ET #555

    HEY, you know what I love about this strategy. ALL THE WINNERS! Juice is low, so we make coin.
     It's far rom perfect, but we will get dialed in.

    THE DOG AND PONY SHOW!
    1. No bet if the line is higher than -110 for either team.
    Some exceptions made for -111, but I'll review as needed.
    2. Wait for the line movements to stop, some times moves happen up to 2-3 minutes before game time.
    3. Take the DOG
    4. Avoid games where the DOG is going to sweep a series.
    5. Avoid games where there is a lot of line movement.

    6/3 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/3 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/3 - Rangers - WIN
    6/3 - Cardinals - LOSS
    6/5 - Toronto - WIN
    6/5 - Padres - WIN
    6/8 - Washington - WIN
    6/8 - Tampa Bay - WIN
    6/10 - Cleveland - WIN
    6/10 - Dodgers - WIN
    6/12 - Oakland - WIN
    6/12 - Philly - LOSS
    6/13 - Boston v Miami - NO PLAY Weird Line Movements
    6/13 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/15 - Brewers - WIN
    6/16 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/18 - Brewers - WIN
    6/18 - Giants - WIN
    6/22 - St. Louis - WIN
    6/22 - Seattle - LOSS
    6/23 - Houston - WIN
    6/25 - Kansas City - WIN
    6/25 - Minnesota - WIN
    6/25 - Oakland - WIN
    6/27 - Cincinnati - LOSS
    6/27 - Pittsburgh - WIN

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    HEY, you know what I love about this strategy. ALL THE WINNERS! Juice is low, so we make coin.
     It's far rom perfect, but we will get dialed in.

    THE DOG AND PONY SHOW!
    1. No bet if the line is higher than -110 for either team.
    Some exceptions made for -111, but I'll review as needed.
    2. Wait for the line movements to stop, some times moves happen up to 2-3 minutes before game time.
    3. Take the DOG
    4. Avoid games where the DOG is going to sweep a series.
    5. Avoid games where there is a lot of line movement.

    6/3 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/3 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/3 - Rangers - WIN
    6/3 - Cardinals - LOSS
    6/5 - Toronto - WIN
    6/5 - Padres - WIN
    6/8 - Washington - WIN
    6/8 - Tampa Bay - WIN
    6/10 - Cleveland - WIN
    6/10 - Dodgers - WIN
    6/12 - Oakland - WIN
    6/12 - Philly - LOSS
    6/13 - Boston v Miami - NO PLAY Weird Line Movements
    6/13 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/15 - Brewers - WIN
    6/16 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/18 - Brewers - WIN
    6/18 - Giants - WIN
    6/22 - St. Louis - WIN
    6/22 - Seattle - LOSS
    6/23 - Houston - WIN
    6/25 - Kansas City - WIN
    6/25 - Minnesota - WIN
    6/25 - Oakland - WIN
    6/27 - Cincinnati - LOSS
    6/27 - Pittsburgh - WIN

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2012 - 10:56 PM ET #556

    Oh yea right now we are at 68% (17 - 8). The best part is if you bet on every game you would be way ahead because the juice is either really low or or + money.
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    Oh yea right now we are at 68% (17 - 8). The best part is if you bet on every game you would be way ahead because the juice is either really low or or + money.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2012 - 10:59 AM ET #557

    Degen,

    Is there a site where you can see Sagarin ratings on a day to day basis (to backtest)? I can only seem to find the ratings that are updated

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    Degen,

    Is there a site where you can see Sagarin ratings on a day to day basis (to backtest)? I can only seem to find the ratings that are updated

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2012 - 11:38 AM ET #558

    Irage, I am also loving this system. It is money. Thanks for the filters and thanks to Degen for the updates.

    Any thoughts on Pitt becoming the dog by game time? The pitching match-up sure favours Pit.

     

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    Irage, I am also loving this system. It is money. Thanks for the filters and thanks to Degen for the updates.

    Any thoughts on Pitt becoming the dog by game time? The pitching match-up sure favours Pit.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2012 - 12:44 PM ET #559

    Could PIT be a play if they become the dog?
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    Could PIT be a play if they become the dog?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2012 - 3:10 PM ET #560

    Pit was off for me, but I agree with gbpack, had Pitt become the Dog I might have taken it.

    If you don't see it listed here, it's off for me.

    Watch that Pads v Astros game. If Houston becomes the DOG they will be the play. The only reason they are favored is because of that ERA. Either way I think Houston is the play, at least they can get to the ball.

    The other game is Boston v Seattle. Seattle sucks and Boston has been slumping. Pitching is near even, but hitting favors the Sox. Right now the line is even, Boston is the play if the line stays even or if they become the DOG. I don't expect much line movement, because most gamblers aren't going to see any value in this game, but I do.

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    Pit was off for me, but I agree with gbpack, had Pitt become the Dog I might have taken it.

    If you don't see it listed here, it's off for me.

    Watch that Pads v Astros game. If Houston becomes the DOG they will be the play. The only reason they are favored is because of that ERA. Either way I think Houston is the play, at least they can get to the ball.

    The other game is Boston v Seattle. Seattle sucks and Boston has been slumping. Pitching is near even, but hitting favors the Sox. Right now the line is even, Boston is the play if the line stays even or if they become the DOG. I don't expect much line movement, because most gamblers aren't going to see any value in this game, but I do.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2012 - 8:04 PM ET #561

    It's a pass on Pad v Astros. Houston has all the advantages today.
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    It's a pass on Pad v Astros. Houston has all the advantages today.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2012 - 8:04 PM ET #562

    Boston right now is looking like the play.
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    Boston right now is looking like the play.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2012 - 8:07 PM ET #563

    CIN vs. SF is quickly approaching game line values appropriate for this system.
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    CIN vs. SF is quickly approaching game line values appropriate for this system.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2012 - 8:20 PM ET #564

    If it does, CINCY will be the play. At home SF won't be the DOG.
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    If it does, CINCY will be the play. At home SF won't be the DOG.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2012 - 9:05 PM ET #565

    Nice read irage! Boston hasnt been slumping,they are rather hot,won 8 of 11 i believe. Felix has ben eradic as of late.
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    Nice read irage! Boston hasnt been slumping,they are rather hot,won 8 of 11 i believe. Felix has ben eradic as of late.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 12:01 AM ET #566

    Perhaps that's a strong word, but how do explain them not scoring a single run against Seattle. Everyone is hitting of them.
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    Perhaps that's a strong word, but how do explain them not scoring a single run against Seattle. Everyone is hitting of them.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 12:17 PM ET #567

    Loving PHI today - if they stay the DOG.

    Better pitching matchup and over the last 3 years MIA is 7 and 20 versus the PHI when at HOME.

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    Loving PHI today - if they stay the DOG.

    Better pitching matchup and over the last 3 years MIA is 7 and 20 versus the PHI when at HOME.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 5:19 PM ET #568

    Looks like:

    PHI vs MIA
    BOS vs SEA

    are potential plays based solely on basic filters
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    Looks like:

    PHI vs MIA
    BOS vs SEA

    are potential plays based solely on basic filters
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 6:36 PM ET #569

    I like both Philly and Seattle today. What the hell is wrong with Boston?
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    I like both Philly and Seattle today. What the hell is wrong with Boston?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 6:43 PM ET #570

    SEA has the better pitcher on the mound today....def taking Philly but will prob lay off SEA
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    SEA has the better pitcher on the mound today....def taking Philly but will prob lay off SEA
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 6:52 PM ET #571

    HEY, you know what I love about this strategy. ALL THE WINNERS! Juice is low, so we make coin.
     It's far rom perfect, but we will get dialed in.

    THE DOG AND PONY SHOW!
    1. No bet if the line is higher than -110 for either team.
    Some exceptions made for -111, but I'll review as needed.
    2. Wait for the line movements to stop, some times moves happen up to 2-3 minutes before game time.
    3. Take the DOG
    4. Avoid games where the DOG is going to sweep a series.
    5. Avoid games where there is a lot of line movement.

    6/3 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/3 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/3 - Rangers - WIN
    6/3 - Cardinals - LOSS
    6/5 - Toronto - WIN
    6/5 - Padres - WIN
    6/8 - Washington - WIN
    6/8 - Tampa Bay - WIN
    6/10 - Cleveland - WIN
    6/10 - Dodgers - WIN
    6/12 - Oakland - WIN
    6/12 - Philly - LOSS
    6/13 - Boston v Miami - NO PLAY Weird Line Movements
    6/13 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/15 - Brewers - WIN
    6/16 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/18 - Brewers - WIN
    6/18 - Giants - WIN
    6/22 - St. Louis - WIN
    6/22 - Seattle - LOSS
    6/23 - Houston - WIN
    6/25 - Kansas City - WIN
    6/25 - Minnesota - WIN
    6/25 - Oakland - WIN
    6/27 - Cincinnati - LOSS
    6/27 - Pittsburgh - WIN
    6/28 - Boston - LOSS
    6/29 - Philadelphia - PENDING
    6/29 - Seattle - Check lines during warmup.
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    HEY, you know what I love about this strategy. ALL THE WINNERS! Juice is low, so we make coin.
     It's far rom perfect, but we will get dialed in.

    THE DOG AND PONY SHOW!
    1. No bet if the line is higher than -110 for either team.
    Some exceptions made for -111, but I'll review as needed.
    2. Wait for the line movements to stop, some times moves happen up to 2-3 minutes before game time.
    3. Take the DOG
    4. Avoid games where the DOG is going to sweep a series.
    5. Avoid games where there is a lot of line movement.

    6/3 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/3 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/3 - Rangers - WIN
    6/3 - Cardinals - LOSS
    6/5 - Toronto - WIN
    6/5 - Padres - WIN
    6/8 - Washington - WIN
    6/8 - Tampa Bay - WIN
    6/10 - Cleveland - WIN
    6/10 - Dodgers - WIN
    6/12 - Oakland - WIN
    6/12 - Philly - LOSS
    6/13 - Boston v Miami - NO PLAY Weird Line Movements
    6/13 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/15 - Brewers - WIN
    6/16 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/18 - Brewers - WIN
    6/18 - Giants - WIN
    6/22 - St. Louis - WIN
    6/22 - Seattle - LOSS
    6/23 - Houston - WIN
    6/25 - Kansas City - WIN
    6/25 - Minnesota - WIN
    6/25 - Oakland - WIN
    6/27 - Cincinnati - LOSS
    6/27 - Pittsburgh - WIN
    6/28 - Boston - LOSS
    6/29 - Philadelphia - PENDING
    6/29 - Seattle - Check lines during warmup.
     
    Knoxpoker
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 8:05 PM ET #572

    sorry might have been asked before  wherer do you guys like to check line movement ?? I did use SBR live odds ..is that ok to use for this ??
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    sorry might have been asked before  wherer do you guys like to check line movement ?? I did use SBR live odds ..is that ok to use for this ??
     
    peter1988
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 8:14 PM ET #573

    Quote Originally Posted by Knoxpoker:

    sorry might have been asked before  wherer do you guys like to check line movement ?? I did use SBR live odds ..is that ok to use for this ??


    They use covers odds to determine who is the dog, its been back tested using the same source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knoxpoker:

    sorry might have been asked before  wherer do you guys like to check line movement ?? I did use SBR live odds ..is that ok to use for this ??


    They use covers odds to determine who is the dog, its been back tested using the same source.
     
    irage
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 8:27 PM ET #574

    Lee needs to get of the mound and where they hell are the bats for Philly?
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    Lee needs to get of the mound and where they hell are the bats for Philly?
     
     
    peter1988
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2012 - 8:39 PM ET #575

    Quote Originally Posted by irage:

    Lee needs to get of the mound and where they hell are the bats for Philly?


    I hope they can knock off Johnson in the next inning so they get a crack at MIA bullpen
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    Quote Originally Posted by irage:

    Lee needs to get of the mound and where they hell are the bats for Philly?


    I hope they can knock off Johnson in the next inning so they get a crack at MIA bullpen
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