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Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 5:59 PM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by IC85:

Using your system, here's what I come up with for tonight:

SF@ ARI

O/U   43  (Pinny has it at 41.5)         - No Play, too close

SF     -4.5 (Pinny has them at -1.5)   - Worth the play, getting 3 pts



i got the same numbers too, but based shouldn't it be since sf should be -4.5, but is actually -1.5, that it's a fishy line and you take arizona? confused a bit
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Quote Originally Posted by IC85:

Using your system, here's what I come up with for tonight:

SF@ ARI

O/U   43  (Pinny has it at 41.5)         - No Play, too close

SF     -4.5 (Pinny has them at -1.5)   - Worth the play, getting 3 pts



i got the same numbers too, but based shouldn't it be since sf should be -4.5, but is actually -1.5, that it's a fishy line and you take arizona? confused a bit
 
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Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 6:16 PM ET #27

I don't mean to split hairs, Dawniewags, but in your first post you listed the SD/IND score as 35-14.  It was actually 36-14, for a total of 50 pts.
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Quote Originally Posted by Snappa:

I don't mean to split hairs, Dawniewags, but in your first post you listed the SD/IND score as 35-14.  It was actually 36-14, for a total of 50 pts.


you used SD IND game. the 35-14 was MNF with Den vs SD
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I don't mean to split hairs, Dawniewags, but in your first post you listed the SD/IND score as 35-14.  It was actually 36-14, for a total of 50 pts.


you used SD IND game. the 35-14 was MNF with Den vs SD
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by verizonsam]

i got the same numbers too, but based shouldn't it be since sf should be -4.5, but is actually -1.5, that it's a fishy line and you take arizona? confused a bit

I'm just going by the numbers.

If you use this system on next weeks games there are a quie a few differences:

Cle @ Mia (-4.5)   comes up Cle -0.6

Chi (-3.5) @ Det   comes up Chi -6.7

Den @ KC (-7)   comes up KC -11.5 

Buf @ Min (-6.5)   comes up Min -1.5

NO (-7) @ Cin   comes up NO -11.9

Atl (-3) @ TB   comes up Atl -6.5

Pit @ Bal (-3)   comes up Pit -1

NYJ @ NE (-3.5)   comes up NYJ -0.8

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i got the same numbers too, but based shouldn't it be since sf should be -4.5, but is actually -1.5, that it's a fishy line and you take arizona? confused a bit

I'm just going by the numbers.

If you use this system on next weeks games there are a quie a few differences:

Cle @ Mia (-4.5)   comes up Cle -0.6

Chi (-3.5) @ Det   comes up Chi -6.7

Den @ KC (-7)   comes up KC -11.5 

Buf @ Min (-6.5)   comes up Min -1.5

NO (-7) @ Cin   comes up NO -11.9

Atl (-3) @ TB   comes up Atl -6.5

Pit @ Bal (-3)   comes up Pit -1

NYJ @ NE (-3.5)   comes up NYJ -0.8

 
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There's no O/U that has more than a 3pt difference 
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Quote Originally Posted by IC85:

Quote Originally Posted by verizonsam:



i got the same numbers too, but based shouldn't it be since sf should be -4.5, but is actually -1.5, that it's a fishy line and you take arizona? confused a bit

I'm just going by the numbers.

If you use this system on next weeks games there are a quie a few differences:

Cle @ Mia (-4.5)   comes up Cle -0.6

Chi (-3.5) @ Det   comes up Chi -6.7

Den @ KC (-7)   comes up KC -11.5 

Buf @ Min (-6.5)   comes up Min -1.5

NO (-7) @ Cin   comes up NO -11.9

Atl (-3) @ TB   comes up Atl -6.5

Pit @ Bal (-3)   comes up Pit -1

NYJ @ NE (-3.5)   comes up NYJ -0.8



right. i agree with your numbers, but i'm just trying to grasp the logic. since sf is -1.5, but based on the "system" it should be -4.5, are we to take

a) SF because we are getting value in only having to give 1.5 pts when it should be -4.5

or

b) Ariz because the line is fishy, sf should be giving -4.5 based on the system and -1.5 is the actual line, hence the fishiness/red flag?
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Quote Originally Posted by verizonsam:



i got the same numbers too, but based shouldn't it be since sf should be -4.5, but is actually -1.5, that it's a fishy line and you take arizona? confused a bit

I'm just going by the numbers.

If you use this system on next weeks games there are a quie a few differences:

Cle @ Mia (-4.5)   comes up Cle -0.6

Chi (-3.5) @ Det   comes up Chi -6.7

Den @ KC (-7)   comes up KC -11.5 

Buf @ Min (-6.5)   comes up Min -1.5

NO (-7) @ Cin   comes up NO -11.9

Atl (-3) @ TB   comes up Atl -6.5

Pit @ Bal (-3)   comes up Pit -1

NYJ @ NE (-3.5)   comes up NYJ -0.8



right. i agree with your numbers, but i'm just trying to grasp the logic. since sf is -1.5, but based on the "system" it should be -4.5, are we to take

a) SF because we are getting value in only having to give 1.5 pts when it should be -4.5

or

b) Ariz because the line is fishy, sf should be giving -4.5 based on the system and -1.5 is the actual line, hence the fishiness/red flag?
 
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you used SD IND game. the 35-14 was MNF with Den vs SD


OUCH!  I will read more carefully in the future.  I apologize Dawniewags et all and thanks for correcting me, sam.
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you used SD IND game. the 35-14 was MNF with Den vs SD


OUCH!  I will read more carefully in the future.  I apologize Dawniewags et all and thanks for correcting me, sam.
 
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As I said, these are just numbers. I have no idea if it's fishy or not.

They take nothing else into consideration.

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As I said, these are just numbers. I have no idea if it's fishy or not.

They take nothing else into consideration.

 
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As a simple example lets say that the posted lines included -3pts for the Home Team, if you take that away then SF would be -4.5 which would be bang on.

Using that example with next weeks games, it seems that a lot of the lines end up being only a couple of points difference.

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As a simple example lets say that the posted lines included -3pts for the Home Team, if you take that away then SF would be -4.5 which would be bang on.

Using that example with next weeks games, it seems that a lot of the lines end up being only a couple of points difference.

 
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are you for real ??? all your doing is using the averages of scoring and pts allowed, and the scores are coming close to the averages. this might be good for a place to start but not a final outcome predictor. why jump from 1 game this week then go back 3 weeks , where are the numbers for each and every game, any system hits when you pick out certain games to apply it to. And everyone in this post seems amazed....why didnt vegas figure this one out ????
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are you for real ??? all your doing is using the averages of scoring and pts allowed, and the scores are coming close to the averages. this might be good for a place to start but not a final outcome predictor. why jump from 1 game this week then go back 3 weeks , where are the numbers for each and every game, any system hits when you pick out certain games to apply it to. And everyone in this post seems amazed....why didnt vegas figure this one out ????
 
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Quote Originally Posted by rudie:

are you for real ??? all your doing is using the averages of scoring and pts allowed, and the scores are coming close to the averages. this might be good for a place to start but not a final outcome predictor. why jump from 1 game this week then go back 3 weeks , where are the numbers for each and every game, any system hits when you pick out certain games to apply it to. And everyone in this post seems amazed....why didnt vegas figure this one out ????


Great points and I would also like to point out that some games can really slant the average. Look at that Eagles @ Redskins game a few weeks back....Eagles won by an incredible amount and thus their average will be slightly inflated.

You might consider throwing out the highest and lowest scores for each team.

Golf handicaps are calculated by throwing out the best and worst scores before calculating an average. Just my 2 cents.
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are you for real ??? all your doing is using the averages of scoring and pts allowed, and the scores are coming close to the averages. this might be good for a place to start but not a final outcome predictor. why jump from 1 game this week then go back 3 weeks , where are the numbers for each and every game, any system hits when you pick out certain games to apply it to. And everyone in this post seems amazed....why didnt vegas figure this one out ????


Great points and I would also like to point out that some games can really slant the average. Look at that Eagles @ Redskins game a few weeks back....Eagles won by an incredible amount and thus their average will be slightly inflated.

You might consider throwing out the highest and lowest scores for each team.

Golf handicaps are calculated by throwing out the best and worst scores before calculating an average. Just my 2 cents.
 
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OK PEOPLE i'm really bad at typing it's hard to explain for me to transfer  the way i was i taught to do this  simple shit but it works !

lets make it simple  ok !

COLTS - 3 vs Chargers 

PF 268  COLTS  PA 216      PF 274 CHARGERS PA 211

+52  pts ---------------------------------------- +63 pts

really showing broken down   here  

63- 52  = 11  divide by 10 games = 1.1  pts

COLTS are +5.2  pts per game    Chargers are +6.3 pts Pergame

6.3 - 5.2 =   +1.1  pts TO Chargers

NOW subtract 3  pt spread FROM colts  and add it TI Carhgers

5.2 - 3   = +2.2    6.3 +3  = 9.3 

9.3  - 2.2  =  +7.1  pts for chargers 

 

um wrong team favored  here  as YOU see the pick differnce is chargers  +1.1 

spread is OFF  6 points 

 

another thing  when you have the better offense and defense taking points  YOU bet them and YOU almost Guaranteed  a WINNER  100% of the time

 

WE all know that the Chargers give manning fits  he has worst performance vs SD  than all the other teams combined 

 

plus without a running game Colts are very easy to beat  one dimensional

i hate to say this but  neither of these teams will be represented at the superbowl  !

YOU only possible superbowl  teams are

Steelers JETS   Saints  Eagles  PACKERS

Saints strongest edge  this year even betterthan last year  when they averged 45 yds more offense per 16 games  in season

 

this year they are averaging 78.4 more yds of offense with a better defense  

 

but problem right now is they are -3  in turnovers  !

Steelers NEED to average at laest 48  yds more than thier opponents in reamaing 5  games they are below the needed 35 yds  for superbowl  champions  sitting at only +29.9  yds more than all opponents through 11 games

 

THIS is known as super bowl  frauds 

 

last year Colts averaged only about 25 yds more than all opponents   Saints avg. 45 yds  more than all opponents

I had posted in systems before BUT it axed  !

some jo said how many more BS systems you have  with a thumbs down thingy 

 

i never replied  it got waxed !

OK OTHER CONTENDERS are  Eagles +82.7 yds  more tahn all opponents with +11  in turnovers  same as steelers

 

JETS are at + 64.7  yds more than others +7 in turnovers 

 

Packers  ar weak  +33.2 yds than all opponents + 7 in turnovers

Patriots  NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL  

 

they are in the red  - 50 yds per game  out gained in 7  games  only small pluses  in 4 games

strange aint it  even thanksgiving day  LIONS out gained them in a Blowout

they are + 11 in turnovers BUT now you see why they are burning YOUR money as chalks

THIS is NOT the OLD patriots defense  that was situtional D  they had two guys in each spot both in postion to stop you from converting 3rd and 5 

WAS a differnt defense than all other teams used  BILL Bellicick design

BUT all those great  defenders are Gone now they went young

so it's a process  developing the youth !

SO VERY POSSIBLE SUPER BOWL MATCHUPS  are

 

 Saints  vs steelers

Eagles VS  Steelers 

Steelers VS Packers 

Saints  vs Jets 

Saints Vs Packers

Eagles Vs Jets

Packers Vs Jets 

IF  any other AFC teams get in besides JETS  or Steelers

IT will be a blow out of major  proprtions on the NFC side

Packers vs Jets  or Steelers will be low scoring under the 40's

Sanits vs  either also will be low scoring  under thye 40's

NO wait i forgot Dallas is dome 

 

wash that out  !

 

depends on how much they score in playoffs 

 

BUT Thats it 

 

as far as games what i come up with after sit down with my friends i'll post in game sections

again i remind YOU all i'm a female not a GUY  and wager small

 

$25 - $50   at most  $200  on one game 

Ravens vs Panthers i unloded on 

got a lil scared  when panthers put up 13  points but for sure  two more picks  came in and sealed  the win !

 

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OK PEOPLE i'm really bad at typing it's hard to explain for me to transfer  the way i was i taught to do this  simple shit but it works !

lets make it simple  ok !

COLTS - 3 vs Chargers 

PF 268  COLTS  PA 216      PF 274 CHARGERS PA 211

+52  pts ---------------------------------------- +63 pts

really showing broken down   here  

63- 52  = 11  divide by 10 games = 1.1  pts

COLTS are +5.2  pts per game    Chargers are +6.3 pts Pergame

6.3 - 5.2 =   +1.1  pts TO Chargers

NOW subtract 3  pt spread FROM colts  and add it TI Carhgers

5.2 - 3   = +2.2    6.3 +3  = 9.3 

9.3  - 2.2  =  +7.1  pts for chargers 

 

um wrong team favored  here  as YOU see the pick differnce is chargers  +1.1 

spread is OFF  6 points 

 

another thing  when you have the better offense and defense taking points  YOU bet them and YOU almost Guaranteed  a WINNER  100% of the time

 

WE all know that the Chargers give manning fits  he has worst performance vs SD  than all the other teams combined 

 

plus without a running game Colts are very easy to beat  one dimensional

i hate to say this but  neither of these teams will be represented at the superbowl  !

YOU only possible superbowl  teams are

Steelers JETS   Saints  Eagles  PACKERS

Saints strongest edge  this year even betterthan last year  when they averged 45 yds more offense per 16 games  in season

 

this year they are averaging 78.4 more yds of offense with a better defense  

 

but problem right now is they are -3  in turnovers  !

Steelers NEED to average at laest 48  yds more than thier opponents in reamaing 5  games they are below the needed 35 yds  for superbowl  champions  sitting at only +29.9  yds more than all opponents through 11 games

 

THIS is known as super bowl  frauds 

 

last year Colts averaged only about 25 yds more than all opponents   Saints avg. 45 yds  more than all opponents

I had posted in systems before BUT it axed  !

some jo said how many more BS systems you have  with a thumbs down thingy 

 

i never replied  it got waxed !

OK OTHER CONTENDERS are  Eagles +82.7 yds  more tahn all opponents with +11  in turnovers  same as steelers

 

JETS are at + 64.7  yds more than others +7 in turnovers 

 

Packers  ar weak  +33.2 yds than all opponents + 7 in turnovers

Patriots  NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL  

 

they are in the red  - 50 yds per game  out gained in 7  games  only small pluses  in 4 games

strange aint it  even thanksgiving day  LIONS out gained them in a Blowout

they are + 11 in turnovers BUT now you see why they are burning YOUR money as chalks

THIS is NOT the OLD patriots defense  that was situtional D  they had two guys in each spot both in postion to stop you from converting 3rd and 5 

WAS a differnt defense than all other teams used  BILL Bellicick design

BUT all those great  defenders are Gone now they went young

so it's a process  developing the youth !

SO VERY POSSIBLE SUPER BOWL MATCHUPS  are

 

 Saints  vs steelers

Eagles VS  Steelers 

Steelers VS Packers 

Saints  vs Jets 

Saints Vs Packers

Eagles Vs Jets

Packers Vs Jets 

IF  any other AFC teams get in besides JETS  or Steelers

IT will be a blow out of major  proprtions on the NFC side

Packers vs Jets  or Steelers will be low scoring under the 40's

Sanits vs  either also will be low scoring  under thye 40's

NO wait i forgot Dallas is dome 

 

wash that out  !

 

depends on how much they score in playoffs 

 

BUT Thats it 

 

as far as games what i come up with after sit down with my friends i'll post in game sections

again i remind YOU all i'm a female not a GUY  and wager small

 

$25 - $50   at most  $200  on one game 

Ravens vs Panthers i unloded on 

got a lil scared  when panthers put up 13  points but for sure  two more picks  came in and sealed  the win !

 

 
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dawniefags ... u ve got a fan now in me !! ur a female but interesting chocie for an avatar ?? lol !! anyways ,,, a nice explanation there... can you give us one more nice example in detail like the one above bor NBA spreads and totals, something recent , and any other rules like aware and beware of certain trends for teh nba ?? 
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You can't have SAINTS VS PACKERS as a SUPERBOWL matchup!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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please tell me you are the girl in your avatar LOL...  nice topic any plays for today ?
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ty for compliments guys about my avatar but i will not tell who the girl errrr lady is in my avatar .  YOU will not find her pic anywhere online unless someone got it from somwhere else !

Thats all i will tell you  because of my occupation my real name is nowhere online !

AS far as NBA  i will tell you one absoulte mortal LOCK every year

BET aginst the def champs in that home oponer

they never ever cover the spread  !

There is a reason and cause  and effect for these systems that keep them solid every year !

REASON NBA champs do not cover  all the pre game celebration hositing the banner and trophy removes the Crowd emotions and team also is on a high 

Cause is meltdown and the DOG team of courseplays hard EFFECT is a squeak win that is not even close to the spread this year the ROCKETS were a  7.5 DOG  lakers never had the lead  and finally won by 2 points !

NBA is differnt animal than NFL  YOU use PF and PA  of 5 home games vs 5 road games of BOTH teams

Do same math as shown in nfl  add and subtract the spread  from chalk add it to the dog and see if it's  corect as compared to the pickem results

also if either team is playing 3 games in 4 nights  on a B 2 B or 4 in 5  nights on a B 2 B  fade them dog or favorite if an older team vs rested teams

the SPURS are noted real bad traveling on any unrested  games thier 2nd game of a B 2 B they just never cover any spread !Totals also YOU need to see how teams play if they are BOTH heavy on Defensive side  YOUR going to see a lot of UNDERS teams that play all offense like the suns do  with no defense will cause OVERS  more than anything

SUNS should be faded as a chalk vs almsot any team they are old at every position NO laed is safe with them i seen them blow 30 point leads in the 3rd qtr  many times !

 

Another thing to beware of teams playing on B 2 B going UP to denver  from lower alttude  or Coming down from denver  are really bad bets vs a rested team

THE HUMAN BODY cannot adjust  within 24 hrs  from that thin air  high to low altitude  !

Thats why many teams fold up and die in 2nd halfs at DENVER because of weak bench  and cannot give starters rest to drink plenty of fluids !NBA is a differnt Animal than NFL but emotion runs true in both sports  many teams will play soft at home before a home game vs biggest rival or confernce rival !

I seen it happen Blazers at HOME before a home game vs Lakers

huge chalk 15 points vs Timberwolves  boy where they flat  played the C game  to win by 1 POINT 

ok lakers the def champs come in as a 2.5 chalk !IT is known one place Lakers NEVER can win at is in BLazers house  wire to wire demolition of Lakers  Blazers won by  20 points !

Another thing to beware of is when any team wins a game by 21 points or more  and is off two nights  or even one night  almost every team falls ATS the spread  !

I rember one game The BULLS hammered the heat to win by 31 points BULLS were at Home 

next Night  BULLS coalpsed  as a huge fav of 8 points  Heat went home and exploded over the other team as a small dog !ITs margin of Victory when teams score way over than they NEED to !

one game i saw earlier this yr  belive the Magic won by 42 points as an 18.5 chalk  this was 2nd explosion from them vs poor teams next game home vs a 2-2  decent team The NETS i think it was and check this spread out only a 16.5  at HOME !without handicapping i took the NETS  and sure enough the magick won by 15 points !

easy $50  !

ALSO another thing to do is Chart last 5 games of both teams

 

A.T.S. just draw a line on a page thats lined like  school note books each line is 5 points  see where teams are headed  is one team peaked out  at plus 30 points  and the other team is  is just below the 0  line say like - 2  ATS headed up  ready to bust through positive side  !

Take that team  to cover the spread !

COVERS is Great to use on teams margin of points won

  A T S they show it in colors  and with a NEGATIVE sign or PLUS sign  next to the number !

YOU want the last 5  consectuive games when making the charts  !

 

NOT only the the last 5 games  at home or Road the charts will be skewered !

Kinda like looks like an EKG chart when YOUR Done

a 100%   sure shot when you have two teams headed in opposite direction lets say favored home won three games

+ 10  points ATS   + 15 points ATS then a lil dip to + 12 points ATS  The DOG team lost 3 games in a row  - 25 points ATS  - 15 points ATS then - 3 points ATS 

this is what they mean by TWO teams headed in OPPOSITE Directions the team headed up crosses over  the 0 line and wins your wager  the favorite will fall below the zero line !

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ty for compliments guys about my avatar but i will not tell who the girl errrr lady is in my avatar .  YOU will not find her pic anywhere online unless someone got it from somwhere else !

Thats all i will tell you  because of my occupation my real name is nowhere online !

AS far as NBA  i will tell you one absoulte mortal LOCK every year

BET aginst the def champs in that home oponer

they never ever cover the spread  !

There is a reason and cause  and effect for these systems that keep them solid every year !

REASON NBA champs do not cover  all the pre game celebration hositing the banner and trophy removes the Crowd emotions and team also is on a high 

Cause is meltdown and the DOG team of courseplays hard EFFECT is a squeak win that is not even close to the spread this year the ROCKETS were a  7.5 DOG  lakers never had the lead  and finally won by 2 points !

NBA is differnt animal than NFL  YOU use PF and PA  of 5 home games vs 5 road games of BOTH teams

Do same math as shown in nfl  add and subtract the spread  from chalk add it to the dog and see if it's  corect as compared to the pickem results

also if either team is playing 3 games in 4 nights  on a B 2 B or 4 in 5  nights on a B 2 B  fade them dog or favorite if an older team vs rested teams

the SPURS are noted real bad traveling on any unrested  games thier 2nd game of a B 2 B they just never cover any spread !Totals also YOU need to see how teams play if they are BOTH heavy on Defensive side  YOUR going to see a lot of UNDERS teams that play all offense like the suns do  with no defense will cause OVERS  more than anything

SUNS should be faded as a chalk vs almsot any team they are old at every position NO laed is safe with them i seen them blow 30 point leads in the 3rd qtr  many times !

 

Another thing to beware of teams playing on B 2 B going UP to denver  from lower alttude  or Coming down from denver  are really bad bets vs a rested team

THE HUMAN BODY cannot adjust  within 24 hrs  from that thin air  high to low altitude  !

Thats why many teams fold up and die in 2nd halfs at DENVER because of weak bench  and cannot give starters rest to drink plenty of fluids !NBA is a differnt Animal than NFL but emotion runs true in both sports  many teams will play soft at home before a home game vs biggest rival or confernce rival !

I seen it happen Blazers at HOME before a home game vs Lakers

huge chalk 15 points vs Timberwolves  boy where they flat  played the C game  to win by 1 POINT 

ok lakers the def champs come in as a 2.5 chalk !IT is known one place Lakers NEVER can win at is in BLazers house  wire to wire demolition of Lakers  Blazers won by  20 points !

Another thing to beware of is when any team wins a game by 21 points or more  and is off two nights  or even one night  almost every team falls ATS the spread  !

I rember one game The BULLS hammered the heat to win by 31 points BULLS were at Home 

next Night  BULLS coalpsed  as a huge fav of 8 points  Heat went home and exploded over the other team as a small dog !ITs margin of Victory when teams score way over than they NEED to !

one game i saw earlier this yr  belive the Magic won by 42 points as an 18.5 chalk  this was 2nd explosion from them vs poor teams next game home vs a 2-2  decent team The NETS i think it was and check this spread out only a 16.5  at HOME !without handicapping i took the NETS  and sure enough the magick won by 15 points !

easy $50  !

ALSO another thing to do is Chart last 5 games of both teams

 

A.T.S. just draw a line on a page thats lined like  school note books each line is 5 points  see where teams are headed  is one team peaked out  at plus 30 points  and the other team is  is just below the 0  line say like - 2  ATS headed up  ready to bust through positive side  !

Take that team  to cover the spread !

COVERS is Great to use on teams margin of points won

  A T S they show it in colors  and with a NEGATIVE sign or PLUS sign  next to the number !

YOU want the last 5  consectuive games when making the charts  !

 

NOT only the the last 5 games  at home or Road the charts will be skewered !

Kinda like looks like an EKG chart when YOUR Done

a 100%   sure shot when you have two teams headed in opposite direction lets say favored home won three games

+ 10  points ATS   + 15 points ATS then a lil dip to + 12 points ATS  The DOG team lost 3 games in a row  - 25 points ATS  - 15 points ATS then - 3 points ATS 

this is what they mean by TWO teams headed in OPPOSITE Directions the team headed up crosses over  the 0 line and wins your wager  the favorite will fall below the zero line !

LATERS  !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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You can't have SAINTS VS PACKERS as a SUPERBOWL matchup!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

GIGGLES  dumb Blonde Moment !

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ty for compliments guys about my avatar but i will not tell who the girl errrr lady is in my avatar .  YOU will not find her pic anywhere online unless someone got it from somwhere else !

Thats all i will tell you  because of my occupation my real name is nowhere online !

AS far as NBA  i will tell you one absoulte mortal LOCK every year

BET aginst the def champs in that home oponer

they never ever cover the spread  !

There is a reason and cause  and effect for these systems that keep them solid every year !

REASON NBA champs do not cover  all the pre game celebration hositing the banner and trophy removes the Crowd emotions and team also is on a high 

Cause is meltdown and the DOG team of courseplays hard EFFECT is a squeak win that is not even close to the spread this year the ROCKETS were a  7.5 DOG  lakers never had the lead  and finally won by 2 points !

NBA is differnt animal than NFL  YOU use PF and PA  of 5 home games vs 5 road games of BOTH teams

Do same math as shown in nfl  add and subtract the spread  from chalk add it to the dog and see if it's  corect as compared to the pickem results

also if either team is playing 3 games in 4 nights  on a B 2 B or 4 in 5  nights on a B 2 B  fade them dog or favorite if an older team vs rested teams

the SPURS are noted real bad traveling on any unrested  games thier 2nd game of a B 2 B they just never cover any spread !Totals also YOU need to see how teams play if they are BOTH heavy on Defensive side  YOUR going to see a lot of UNDERS teams that play all offense like the suns do  with no defense will cause OVERS  more than anything

SUNS should be faded as a chalk vs almsot any team they are old at every position NO laed is safe with them i seen them blow 30 point leads in the 3rd qtr  many times !

 

Another thing to beware of teams playing on B 2 B going UP to denver  from lower alttude  or Coming down from denver  are really bad bets vs a rested team

THE HUMAN BODY cannot adjust  within 24 hrs  from that thin air  high to low altitude  !

Thats why many teams fold up and die in 2nd halfs at DENVER because of weak bench  and cannot give starters rest to drink plenty of fluids !NBA is a differnt Animal than NFL but emotion runs true in both sports  many teams will play soft at home before a home game vs biggest rival or confernce rival !

I seen it happen Blazers at HOME before a home game vs Lakers

huge chalk 15 points vs Timberwolves  boy where they flat  played the C game  to win by 1 POINT 

ok lakers the def champs come in as a 2.5 chalk !IT is known one place Lakers NEVER can win at is in BLazers house  wire to wire demolition of Lakers  Blazers won by  20 points !

Another thing to beware of is when any team wins a game by 21 points or more  and is off two nights  or even one night  almost every team falls ATS the spread  !

I rember one game The BULLS hammered the heat to win by 31 points BULLS were at Home 

next Night  BULLS coalpsed  as a huge fav of 8 points  Heat went home and exploded over the other team as a small dog !ITs margin of Victory when teams score way over than they NEED to !

one game i saw earlier this yr  belive the Magic won by 42 points as an 18.5 chalk  this was 2nd explosion from them vs poor teams next game home vs a 2-2  decent team The NETS i think it was and check this spread out only a 16.5  at HOME !without handicapping i took the NETS  and sure enough the magick won by 15 points !

easy $50  !

ALSO another thing to do is Chart last 5 games of both teams

 

A.T.S. just draw a line on a page thats lined like  school note books each line is 5 points  see where teams are headed  is one team peaked out  at plus 30 points  and the other team is  is just below the 0  line say like - 2  ATS headed up  ready to bust through positive side  !

Take that team  to cover the spread !

COVERS is Great to use on teams margin of points won

  A T S they show it in colors  and with a NEGATIVE sign or PLUS sign  next to the number !

YOU want the last 5  consectuive games when making the charts  !

 

NOT only the the last 5 games  at home or Road the charts will be skewered !

Kinda like looks like an EKG chart when YOUR Done

a 100%   sure shot when you have two teams headed in opposite direction lets say favored home won three games

+ 10  points ATS   + 15 points ATS then a lil dip to + 12 points ATS  The DOG team lost 3 games in a row  - 25 points ATS  - 15 points ATS then - 3 points ATS 

this is what they mean by TWO teams headed in OPPOSITE Directions the team headed up crosses over  the 0 line and wins your wager  the favorite will fall below the zero line !

LATERS  !

  wow    you are good . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ty for compliments guys about my avatar but i will not tell who the girl errrr lady is in my avatar .  YOU will not find her pic anywhere online unless someone got it from somwhere else !

Thats all i will tell you  because of my occupation my real name is nowhere online !

AS far as NBA  i will tell you one absoulte mortal LOCK every year

BET aginst the def champs in that home oponer

they never ever cover the spread  !

There is a reason and cause  and effect for these systems that keep them solid every year !

REASON NBA champs do not cover  all the pre game celebration hositing the banner and trophy removes the Crowd emotions and team also is on a high 

Cause is meltdown and the DOG team of courseplays hard EFFECT is a squeak win that is not even close to the spread this year the ROCKETS were a  7.5 DOG  lakers never had the lead  and finally won by 2 points !

NBA is differnt animal than NFL  YOU use PF and PA  of 5 home games vs 5 road games of BOTH teams

Do same math as shown in nfl  add and subtract the spread  from chalk add it to the dog and see if it's  corect as compared to the pickem results

also if either team is playing 3 games in 4 nights  on a B 2 B or 4 in 5  nights on a B 2 B  fade them dog or favorite if an older team vs rested teams

the SPURS are noted real bad traveling on any unrested  games thier 2nd game of a B 2 B they just never cover any spread !Totals also YOU need to see how teams play if they are BOTH heavy on Defensive side  YOUR going to see a lot of UNDERS teams that play all offense like the suns do  with no defense will cause OVERS  more than anything

SUNS should be faded as a chalk vs almsot any team they are old at every position NO laed is safe with them i seen them blow 30 point leads in the 3rd qtr  many times !

 

Another thing to beware of teams playing on B 2 B going UP to denver  from lower alttude  or Coming down from denver  are really bad bets vs a rested team

THE HUMAN BODY cannot adjust  within 24 hrs  from that thin air  high to low altitude  !

Thats why many teams fold up and die in 2nd halfs at DENVER because of weak bench  and cannot give starters rest to drink plenty of fluids !NBA is a differnt Animal than NFL but emotion runs true in both sports  many teams will play soft at home before a home game vs biggest rival or confernce rival !

I seen it happen Blazers at HOME before a home game vs Lakers

huge chalk 15 points vs Timberwolves  boy where they flat  played the C game  to win by 1 POINT 

ok lakers the def champs come in as a 2.5 chalk !IT is known one place Lakers NEVER can win at is in BLazers house  wire to wire demolition of Lakers  Blazers won by  20 points !

Another thing to beware of is when any team wins a game by 21 points or more  and is off two nights  or even one night  almost every team falls ATS the spread  !

I rember one game The BULLS hammered the heat to win by 31 points BULLS were at Home 

next Night  BULLS coalpsed  as a huge fav of 8 points  Heat went home and exploded over the other team as a small dog !ITs margin of Victory when teams score way over than they NEED to !

one game i saw earlier this yr  belive the Magic won by 42 points as an 18.5 chalk  this was 2nd explosion from them vs poor teams next game home vs a 2-2  decent team The NETS i think it was and check this spread out only a 16.5  at HOME !without handicapping i took the NETS  and sure enough the magick won by 15 points !

easy $50  !

ALSO another thing to do is Chart last 5 games of both teams

 

A.T.S. just draw a line on a page thats lined like  school note books each line is 5 points  see where teams are headed  is one team peaked out  at plus 30 points  and the other team is  is just below the 0  line say like - 2  ATS headed up  ready to bust through positive side  !

Take that team  to cover the spread !

COVERS is Great to use on teams margin of points won

  A T S they show it in colors  and with a NEGATIVE sign or PLUS sign  next to the number !

YOU want the last 5  consectuive games when making the charts  !

 

NOT only the the last 5 games  at home or Road the charts will be skewered !

Kinda like looks like an EKG chart when YOUR Done

a 100%   sure shot when you have two teams headed in opposite direction lets say favored home won three games

+ 10  points ATS   + 15 points ATS then a lil dip to + 12 points ATS  The DOG team lost 3 games in a row  - 25 points ATS  - 15 points ATS then - 3 points ATS 

this is what they mean by TWO teams headed in OPPOSITE Directions the team headed up crosses over  the 0 line and wins your wager  the favorite will fall below the zero line !

LATERS  !

  wow    you are good . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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OK tonight i took TWO DOGS  

 

one was Pistons at +11  the other was 76ers +3.5 

 

really was screwy that Blazers were favored at 76ers 

 

all i looked at and saw was that  blazers lost to the NETS  the same team 76ers just beat  and acoording to covers blazers were missing two players OUT  with injury this game !

I still handicapped the game as a pickem blazers were - 1  maiking them a favorite of 3.5   they went to - 2 POINTS 

 

RESULT  as i expected  a LOW scoring game   76ers blasted them  88-79  24.5  points UNDER the posted total  of 191.5  i came up with a toatl of possible   197.4  so it was too easy to go overs  i  gueesed UNDERS 

 

PISTONS +11  pushed  but again i saw a low scoring game  192 was posted i came up with  195.4  but saw most of pistons road games were in 165 range  final was Magic  90 pistons 79  if i wated  an hr later the spread went up to 11.5  and it covers !

DO the math yourself using both lines  11 and 11.5 YOU will SEE the diference 

 

Magic was  PF 515  PA 466    Pistons were PF 478  PA 495 

FUCKING amazing when YOU see the differnce that YOU know the HOOK Plays !

Laters all i'm going out for a drink !

 

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OK tonight i took TWO DOGS  

 

one was Pistons at +11  the other was 76ers +3.5 

 

really was screwy that Blazers were favored at 76ers 

 

all i looked at and saw was that  blazers lost to the NETS  the same team 76ers just beat  and acoording to covers blazers were missing two players OUT  with injury this game !

I still handicapped the game as a pickem blazers were - 1  maiking them a favorite of 3.5   they went to - 2 POINTS 

 

RESULT  as i expected  a LOW scoring game   76ers blasted them  88-79  24.5  points UNDER the posted total  of 191.5  i came up with a toatl of possible   197.4  so it was too easy to go overs  i  gueesed UNDERS 

 

PISTONS +11  pushed  but again i saw a low scoring game  192 was posted i came up with  195.4  but saw most of pistons road games were in 165 range  final was Magic  90 pistons 79  if i wated  an hr later the spread went up to 11.5  and it covers !

DO the math yourself using both lines  11 and 11.5 YOU will SEE the diference 

 

Magic was  PF 515  PA 466    Pistons were PF 478  PA 495 

FUCKING amazing when YOU see the differnce that YOU know the HOOK Plays !

Laters all i'm going out for a drink !

 

 
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HERES another sure shot 100%  SYSTEM for NFL  IN Playofss IF any Team beats  the DEFNDING  Champs  and they have another playoff game  they all LOST the Game  0 -12  S/U  1 -11  ATS  one was a DOG

LASt team that did this was Eagles after upending Giants the champs went to Finals at Arizona  favored by 2  1/2  OMFG  game was over ta half time  Eagles made come back in 3rd qtr BUT cards won the game s/u and theeeee worst 9-7 team ever got to the Bowl !


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HERES another sure shot 100%  SYSTEM for NFL  IN Playofss IF any Team beats  the DEFNDING  Champs  and they have another playoff game  they all LOST the Game  0 -12  S/U  1 -11  ATS  one was a DOG

LASt team that did this was Eagles after upending Giants the champs went to Finals at Arizona  favored by 2  1/2  OMFG  game was over ta half time  Eagles made come back in 3rd qtr BUT cards won the game s/u and theeeee worst 9-7 team ever got to the Bowl !


 
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wow i really like your system still trying to figure out my outcome i did steelers vs bal  for tis week came up with  steelers + 6.9  and there getting 3  so dose that mean pick the steelers ?  and on the over i came up with 36.3 and the over is 40  im i doing this correct ?  dose that mean take the under ?
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wow i really like your system still trying to figure out my outcome i did steelers vs bal  for tis week came up with  steelers + 6.9  and there getting 3  so dose that mean pick the steelers ?  and on the over i came up with 36.3 and the over is 40  im i doing this correct ?  dose that mean take the under ?
 
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i would like to add u as a friend to help me out with this a lil more i would greatly apprciate it im going to send u a friend request and if u except can u tell me if my math is correct in post # 47 in a pm  ty so much and gl with the system
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i would like to add u as a friend to help me out with this a lil more i would greatly apprciate it im going to send u a friend request and if u except can u tell me if my math is correct in post # 47 in a pm  ty so much and gl with the system
 
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i did another 1 just to try it the game is olk vs san diego i cam up with san diego + 6.9  there giving up 13  im i doing it correct and what dose this mean to pick i almost got it just  don't under stand the outcome yet i have the math down tho i think haaa 
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i did another 1 just to try it the game is olk vs san diego i cam up with san diego + 6.9  there giving up 13  im i doing it correct and what dose this mean to pick i almost got it just  don't under stand the outcome yet i have the math down tho i think haaa 
 
 
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