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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2013 - 8:20 PM ET #26

    did you think about betting  using the 10% method. assuming that your making money this would allow the bankroll to grow rather quickly and the starting bankroll could be smaller.

    for the 10% method pick a starting point of 4-5% of bankroll bet every bet the same amount if the bets win raise your bets the next day by 10% if they lose lower the bets by 10%.

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    did you think about betting  using the 10% method. assuming that your making money this would allow the bankroll to grow rather quickly and the starting bankroll could be smaller.

    for the 10% method pick a starting point of 4-5% of bankroll bet every bet the same amount if the bets win raise your bets the next day by 10% if they lose lower the bets by 10%.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2013 - 9:03 PM ET #27

    Hey man.  I had to get new brakes, a battery and tires for my car tonight before winter gets too crazy.  I passed on everything tonight.  Looking up these 4 game trends is a lot of time.  I will look into some games for tomorrow.  I smacked the locals for $2K but almost all of it went to my car.  I'd rather pay for maintenance though and not have a car payment.
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    Hey man.  I had to get new brakes, a battery and tires for my car tonight before winter gets too crazy.  I passed on everything tonight.  Looking up these 4 game trends is a lot of time.  I will look into some games for tomorrow.  I smacked the locals for $2K but almost all of it went to my car.  I'd rather pay for maintenance though and not have a car payment.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2013 - 9:05 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by coolspot:

    did you think about betting  using the 10% method. assuming that your making money this would allow the bankroll to grow rather quickly and the starting bankroll could be smaller.

    for the 10% method pick a starting point of 4-5% of bankroll bet every bet the same amount if the bets win raise your bets the next day by 10% if they lose lower the bets by 10%.


    Bingo, and that's why I posted this system.  Because I need guys smarter than me to pitch in and make it better.  Any CEO or CFO will admit that their staff is smarter than they are.  My ego is checked at the door fellas.  I want to absorb as much info as possible.  Make money.  That's the #1 rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolspot:

    did you think about betting  using the 10% method. assuming that your making money this would allow the bankroll to grow rather quickly and the starting bankroll could be smaller.

    for the 10% method pick a starting point of 4-5% of bankroll bet every bet the same amount if the bets win raise your bets the next day by 10% if they lose lower the bets by 10%.


    Bingo, and that's why I posted this system.  Because I need guys smarter than me to pitch in and make it better.  Any CEO or CFO will admit that their staff is smarter than they are.  My ego is checked at the door fellas.  I want to absorb as much info as possible.  Make money.  That's the #1 rule.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 11:13 AM ET #29

    Personally this a total crapshoot and bears little merit.   but because I am determined to make money and help out:

    12/7

           Denver                                  Vs                   Philly

    3. Rodger Snyder (4-0 L4 pics)               3. Number79 (4-0L4 pics)

    Pending Pick PHILLY no side                   Pick: Denver and Over

                                                               4. yamarsu (6-0L6 pics)

                                                                 Pick: Denver and Over

                                                               5. mjolnir (6-0 L6 pics)

                                                                 Pending picks

                                                              6. badlandsace (10-0 L10)

                                                              Pick: Denver and over

                                                              10. CAlex6977 (4-0 L4)

                                                             Pick: pending

    SO to humor your system, you only look at their last 4 picks not individual Sides vs ATS where some of these "experts" have some 10-0 streaks going.   Based on the above you would not pick this game because you have 2 experts contradicting each others picks?

    When you think about it, you are basing your picks on someone who may be biased on their team.   There is no way to know if they are basing their picks on emotion or trends or stats or just following a better expert like you are doing.

    More or less you are riding someone who is on a hot streak.

     

    What I used to do is follow someone like  "StanMarsh" who is number 2 expert for Philly.   Currently he is 10-3 on his Sides and 8-0 on his totals when he picks Philly games.  Here he is 21 pics in and sporting a 85% on his pics.      Will he keep this up for the season, OF COURSE NOT.  

    Over All I don't think this is a great way to make wagers but for those of us who follow.....be careful to bet this way.

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    Personally this a total crapshoot and bears little merit.   but because I am determined to make money and help out:

    12/7

           Denver                                  Vs                   Philly

    3. Rodger Snyder (4-0 L4 pics)               3. Number79 (4-0L4 pics)

    Pending Pick PHILLY no side                   Pick: Denver and Over

                                                               4. yamarsu (6-0L6 pics)

                                                                 Pick: Denver and Over

                                                               5. mjolnir (6-0 L6 pics)

                                                                 Pending picks

                                                              6. badlandsace (10-0 L10)

                                                              Pick: Denver and over

                                                              10. CAlex6977 (4-0 L4)

                                                             Pick: pending

    SO to humor your system, you only look at their last 4 picks not individual Sides vs ATS where some of these "experts" have some 10-0 streaks going.   Based on the above you would not pick this game because you have 2 experts contradicting each others picks?

    When you think about it, you are basing your picks on someone who may be biased on their team.   There is no way to know if they are basing their picks on emotion or trends or stats or just following a better expert like you are doing.

    More or less you are riding someone who is on a hot streak.

     

    What I used to do is follow someone like  "StanMarsh" who is number 2 expert for Philly.   Currently he is 10-3 on his Sides and 8-0 on his totals when he picks Philly games.  Here he is 21 pics in and sporting a 85% on his pics.      Will he keep this up for the season, OF COURSE NOT.  

    Over All I don't think this is a great way to make wagers but for those of us who follow.....be careful to bet this way.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 5:51 PM ET #30

    I'll test this out and post some plays for tonight here. Was slumping bad lately on my own pathetic capping anyways. And no modifications, just trying it out the way you have been, and see how it fares.

     What I did whenever there was a "push" during someones streak is allow that expert's streak to cancel out plays if it was on the other side of an expert (or at times multiple experts) who was on a legit streak that looked like a play. But I would NOT side with streaks like that and tail to make a play.

    Here are NBA plays for tonight. Only other sport I looked at was NHL, but none qualified.

    Plays:

    LA Clippers -6
    and the Over 198.5

    Chicago -2.5

    Minnesota +6.5

    San Antonio -3.5

    Portland -5



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    I'll test this out and post some plays for tonight here. Was slumping bad lately on my own pathetic capping anyways. And no modifications, just trying it out the way you have been, and see how it fares.

     What I did whenever there was a "push" during someones streak is allow that expert's streak to cancel out plays if it was on the other side of an expert (or at times multiple experts) who was on a legit streak that looked like a play. But I would NOT side with streaks like that and tail to make a play.

    Here are NBA plays for tonight. Only other sport I looked at was NHL, but none qualified.

    Plays:

    LA Clippers -6
    and the Over 198.5

    Chicago -2.5

    Minnesota +6.5

    San Antonio -3.5

    Portland -5



     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 10:14 PM ET #31

    Ok, I think I cursed this experiment....Don't know if any of those are gonna hit.
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    Ok, I think I cursed this experiment....Don't know if any of those are gonna hit.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 10:53 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by abnormality:

    I'll test this out and post some plays for tonight here. Was slumping bad lately on my own pathetic capping anyways. And no modifications, just trying it out the way you have been, and see how it fares.

     What I did whenever there was a "push" during someones streak is allow that expert's streak to cancel out plays if it was on the other side of an expert (or at times multiple experts) who was on a legit streak that looked like a play. But I would NOT side with streaks like that and tail to make a play.

    Here are NBA plays for tonight. Only other sport I looked at was NHL, but none qualified.

    Plays:

    LA Clippers -6
    and the Over 198.5

    Chicago -2.5

    Minnesota +6.5

    San Antonio -3.5

    Portland -5



    i thank you for all your effort this must have taken a long time, but the only team I double checked was Portland and I found only 1 expert with exactly won last 4 & he also chose over 207 in that game too. The expert was chuck4tennis. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by abnormality:

    I'll test this out and post some plays for tonight here. Was slumping bad lately on my own pathetic capping anyways. And no modifications, just trying it out the way you have been, and see how it fares.

     What I did whenever there was a "push" during someones streak is allow that expert's streak to cancel out plays if it was on the other side of an expert (or at times multiple experts) who was on a legit streak that looked like a play. But I would NOT side with streaks like that and tail to make a play.

    Here are NBA plays for tonight. Only other sport I looked at was NHL, but none qualified.

    Plays:

    LA Clippers -6
    and the Over 198.5

    Chicago -2.5

    Minnesota +6.5

    San Antonio -3.5

    Portland -5



    i thank you for all your effort this must have taken a long time, but the only team I double checked was Portland and I found only 1 expert with exactly won last 4 & he also chose over 207 in that game too. The expert was chuck4tennis. 


     
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    Plays:

    LA Clippers -6
    and the Over 198.5

    Chicago -2.5

    Minnesota +6.5

    San Antonio -3.5
    Portland -5

    only team I double checked was Portland and I found only 1 expert with exactly won last 4 & he also chose over 207 in that game too

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    Plays:

    LA Clippers -6
    and the Over 198.5

    Chicago -2.5

    Minnesota +6.5

    San Antonio -3.5
    Portland -5

    only team I double checked was Portland and I found only 1 expert with exactly won last 4 & he also chose over 207 in that game too

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2013 - 3:42 PM ET #34

    Here is what I see remaining on the day:

    only 2 experts for made picks for Olrando NBA Game so no offsetting picks yet. 

    Orlando+12 Over 208
    Miami-4 Under 196

    2 experts like side, but disagree on total
    OKC-5 

    expert had W6 then Push, now W4(don't know if counts)
    LAL-5 1/2 

    NFL
    (expert had 2 streaks of 4 and one of 5, current W4, so we are asking for a streak of 6)
    AZ-5 Under 41

    NY Giants Under 47 1/2 but side bet on NY offset with another.

    CAR+3      (W4 expert never had a streak this long)

    I didn't check NHL and NCAAM is too early a lot of perfect streaks.

    any input on this would be great. lets make this a cash machine 
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    Here is what I see remaining on the day:

    only 2 experts for made picks for Olrando NBA Game so no offsetting picks yet. 

    Orlando+12 Over 208
    Miami-4 Under 196

    2 experts like side, but disagree on total
    OKC-5 

    expert had W6 then Push, now W4(don't know if counts)
    LAL-5 1/2 

    NFL
    (expert had 2 streaks of 4 and one of 5, current W4, so we are asking for a streak of 6)
    AZ-5 Under 41

    NY Giants Under 47 1/2 but side bet on NY offset with another.

    CAR+3      (W4 expert never had a streak this long)

    I didn't check NHL and NCAAM is too early a lot of perfect streaks.

    any input on this would be great. lets make this a cash machine 
     
     
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    Appreciate the input and posts.  I like this system for 1-2 picks per night.  I will continue to check it.  Thanks again!

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    Appreciate the input and posts.  I like this system for 1-2 picks per night.  I will continue to check it.  Thanks again!

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