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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2011 - 7:29 PM ET #1

     

    This week's baseball system pertains to underdogs in the final game of a series. As we've mentioned before with several other systems, we try to find underdogs off a win for two reasons. The first, is that the team has a bit of confidence after a victory and the second is that many people believe the favorite will bounce back, which helps give us better odds.

    What we're looking for in this system is an underdog that won the previous game as an underdog, while allowing six hits or less, and the game being played is the final game in the series.

    The six-hit rule means the the favored team isn't swinging a hot bat and teams do tend to run in streaks.

    The results for this system are as follows:
    2008: 59-65 +$995
    2009: 69-74 +$1,225
    2010: 66-72 +$1573
    2011: 6-5 +$203

    It's odd that the system actually showed a decent year in 2009, which is when favorites covered at higher than normal rate, and it has been pretty consistent over the years. Not bad for such an easy method.

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    This week's baseball system pertains to underdogs in the final game of a series. As we've mentioned before with several other systems, we try to find underdogs off a win for two reasons. The first, is that the team has a bit of confidence after a victory and the second is that many people believe the favorite will bounce back, which helps give us better odds.

    What we're looking for in this system is an underdog that won the previous game as an underdog, while allowing six hits or less, and the game being played is the final game in the series.

    The six-hit rule means the the favored team isn't swinging a hot bat and teams do tend to run in streaks.

    The results for this system are as follows:
    2008: 59-65 +$995
    2009: 69-74 +$1,225
    2010: 66-72 +$1573
    2011: 6-5 +$203

    It's odd that the system actually showed a decent year in 2009, which is when favorites covered at higher than normal rate, and it has been pretty consistent over the years. Not bad for such an easy method.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2011 - 7:32 PM ET #2

    I will post plays starting tommorrow hypothetical bankroll will be based on 100$ bets.
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 7:05 AM ET #3

    no plays today,  this system was posted by Allen Moody
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2011 - 7:49 AM ET #4

    april 17th  bankroll $2000

    chc  112   bet  $100

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    april 17th  bankroll $2000

    chc  112   bet  $100

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2011 - 7:53 AM ET #5

    will be following to see how it does gl to ya and ty for posting

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    will be following to see how it does gl to ya and ty for posting

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2011 - 7:57 AM ET #6

    is this a multiple play a day system where you have to post thru out the day?
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2011 - 10:02 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy69:

    is this a multiple play a day system where you have to post thru out the day?

    no I don't think it is. the only other team that might qualify by game time is laa but I dought they will right now there favored.

    I only put chc down as an official play

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzy69:

    is this a multiple play a day system where you have to post thru out the day?

    no I don't think it is. the only other team that might qualify by game time is laa but I dought they will right now there favored.

    I only put chc down as an official play

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2011 - 10:04 AM ET #8

     i will make cubs a small play until i see how this system works out.
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     i will make cubs a small play until i see how this system works out.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 12:31 PM ET #9

    apr 18 plays 

    chc  lost

    plays are 0-1

    Bankroll  1900

    todays play 

    pit   155   bet    $100

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    apr 18 plays 

    chc  lost

    plays are 0-1

    Bankroll  1900

    todays play 

    pit   155   bet    $100

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2011 - 10:45 PM ET #10

    jv040,  First I would like to say that I've noticed that you do some excellent work on this site.  You follow the rules and actually post systems and strategies while explaining the systems, rather than just posting worthless picks like 99% of the people here.  You are a very generous person.  But, I believe your two plays posted most recently are in error, according to your system rules.  Both of your "departing dogs" allowed more than 6 hits in their win. Colorado had 8 hits against the Cubs on Saturday, and Cincinnati had 15 hits against Pittsburgh on Sunday.  I really enjoy your posts.  Best of luck to you.          
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    jv040,  First I would like to say that I've noticed that you do some excellent work on this site.  You follow the rules and actually post systems and strategies while explaining the systems, rather than just posting worthless picks like 99% of the people here.  You are a very generous person.  But, I believe your two plays posted most recently are in error, according to your system rules.  Both of your "departing dogs" allowed more than 6 hits in their win. Colorado had 8 hits against the Cubs on Saturday, and Cincinnati had 15 hits against Pittsburgh on Sunday.  I really enjoy your posts.  Best of luck to you.          
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 6:27 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by observer55:

    jv040,  First I would like to say that I've noticed that you do some excellent work on this site.  You follow the rules and actually post systems and strategies while explaining the systems, rather than just posting worthless picks like 99% of the people here.  You are a very generous person.  But, I believe your two plays posted most recently are in error, according to your system rules.  Both of your "departing dogs" allowed more than 6 hits in their win. Colorado had 8 hits against the Cubs on Saturday, and Cincinnati had 15 hits against Pittsburgh on Sunday.  I really enjoy your posts.  Best of luck to you.          

    i believe she posted in another thread that she decided to throw out the filter of the dog needing to allow less than 6 hits. otherwise ill be really pissed off that i just lost $2000 on these 2 system plays that werent actually supposed to be system plays at all. i mean what the hell is going on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by observer55:

    jv040,  First I would like to say that I've noticed that you do some excellent work on this site.  You follow the rules and actually post systems and strategies while explaining the systems, rather than just posting worthless picks like 99% of the people here.  You are a very generous person.  But, I believe your two plays posted most recently are in error, according to your system rules.  Both of your "departing dogs" allowed more than 6 hits in their win. Colorado had 8 hits against the Cubs on Saturday, and Cincinnati had 15 hits against Pittsburgh on Sunday.  I really enjoy your posts.  Best of luck to you.          

    i believe she posted in another thread that she decided to throw out the filter of the dog needing to allow less than 6 hits. otherwise ill be really pissed off that i just lost $2000 on these 2 system plays that werent actually supposed to be system plays at all. i mean what the hell is going on here.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 7:03 AM ET #12

    I took the 6 hit rule to mean that the home team scored 6 or less if i'm wrong I will change it.  . maybe I miss understood. I'm going to backtest this today. now that I understand what that 6 hits means the total between the 2 teams. it makes more sense. thankyou 4 bringing this up.
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    I took the 6 hit rule to mean that the home team scored 6 or less if i'm wrong I will change it.  . maybe I miss understood. I'm going to backtest this today. now that I understand what that 6 hits means the total between the 2 teams. it makes more sense. thankyou 4 bringing this up.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 8:47 AM ET #13

    after going over 2011 results in covers I believe that my first interpratation was the right one.  That if the home team scores 6 runs or less then its  a play.  I'm going to post that way. this system is on about.com posted by allen moody. If the total score was less than six there would have only been 4 games this year and when I got this in e-mail allen said the plays were 6-5 in 2011.
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    after going over 2011 results in covers I believe that my first interpratation was the right one.  That if the home team scores 6 runs or less then its  a play.  I'm going to post that way. this system is on about.com posted by allen moody. If the total score was less than six there would have only been 4 games this year and when I got this in e-mail allen said the plays were 6-5 in 2011.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 8:51 AM ET #14

    Apr  19   No plays today

    pit  won

    current bankroll  2055

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    Quote Originally Posted by observer55:

    jv040,  First I would like to say that I've noticed that you do some excellent work on this site.  You follow the rules and actually post systems and strategies while explaining the systems, rather than just posting worthless picks like 99% of the people here.  You are a very generous person.  But, I believe your two plays posted most recently are in error, according to your system rules.  Both of your "departing dogs" allowed more than 6 hits in their win. Colorado had 8 hits against the Cubs on Saturday, and Cincinnati had 15 hits against Pittsburgh on Sunday.  I really enjoy your posts.  Best of luck to you.          

    as my first post states the six hit rule refers to the favorite team. that would be the home team has to score 6 or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by observer55:

    jv040,  First I would like to say that I've noticed that you do some excellent work on this site.  You follow the rules and actually post systems and strategies while explaining the systems, rather than just posting worthless picks like 99% of the people here.  You are a very generous person.  But, I believe your two plays posted most recently are in error, according to your system rules.  Both of your "departing dogs" allowed more than 6 hits in their win. Colorado had 8 hits against the Cubs on Saturday, and Cincinnati had 15 hits against Pittsburgh on Sunday.  I really enjoy your posts.  Best of luck to you.          

    as my first post states the six hit rule refers to the favorite team. that would be the home team has to score 6 or less.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 12:19 PM ET #16

    jv040, Thanks for looking into the rules of the system.  I sure don't want to tell you what rules to use, but I looked at Allen Moody's site myself.  He clearly says he's looking for "an underdog that won the previous game as an underdog, while allowing six HITS or less".  In other words, the underdog we want to bet on had to give up no more than six HITS in the previous game.  No where does he say six RUNS.  There will be very plays when the underdog's pitching staff is held to a standard of allowing only six hits, but it probably will be a good system since you are betting on a dog that probably has a good pitching staff.     
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    jv040, Thanks for looking into the rules of the system.  I sure don't want to tell you what rules to use, but I looked at Allen Moody's site myself.  He clearly says he's looking for "an underdog that won the previous game as an underdog, while allowing six HITS or less".  In other words, the underdog we want to bet on had to give up no more than six HITS in the previous game.  No where does he say six RUNS.  There will be very plays when the underdog's pitching staff is held to a standard of allowing only six hits, but it probably will be a good system since you are betting on a dog that probably has a good pitching staff.     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by observer55:

    jv040, Thanks for looking into the rules of the system.  I sure don't want to tell you what rules to use, but I looked at Allen Moody's site myself.  He clearly says he's looking for "an underdog that won the previous game as an underdog, while allowing six HITS or less".  In other words, the underdog we want to bet on had to give up no more than six HITS in the previous game.  No where does he say six RUNS.  There will be very plays when the underdog's pitching staff is held to a standard of allowing only six hits, but it probably will be a good system since you are betting on a dog that probably has a good pitching staff.     

     

    I don't want to give the wrong plays according to the rules thats stated above.  it does say hits and not runs and I miss interpeted that. Do you know where I can find hit info from the games that were played the day before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by observer55:

    jv040, Thanks for looking into the rules of the system.  I sure don't want to tell you what rules to use, but I looked at Allen Moody's site myself.  He clearly says he's looking for "an underdog that won the previous game as an underdog, while allowing six HITS or less".  In other words, the underdog we want to bet on had to give up no more than six HITS in the previous game.  No where does he say six RUNS.  There will be very plays when the underdog's pitching staff is held to a standard of allowing only six hits, but it probably will be a good system since you are betting on a dog that probably has a good pitching staff.     

     

    I don't want to give the wrong plays according to the rules thats stated above.  it does say hits and not runs and I miss interpeted that. Do you know where I can find hit info from the games that were played the day before?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 6:13 PM ET #18

    jv040,  I think you are doing the right thing by sticking to the rules as the system was written (a play is only a play if the favorite had no more than 6 HITS in their loss the previous day).  There are all kinds of places to easily get the hit stats for any game.  Right here on Covers for one.  Just hold your cursor (pointer) over the little box near the top of page that says MLB.  A little window will drop down, click on "scoreboard", you'll see all the scores from yesterday. Then click on "box score" on any of the match-ups.  Also, there is a calendar that you can click on for any date for games played that day. ESPN/MLB also has the boxscores and stats.

    Let me if you still have trouble finding any stats you need.  
    Keep up the good work.
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    jv040,  I think you are doing the right thing by sticking to the rules as the system was written (a play is only a play if the favorite had no more than 6 HITS in their loss the previous day).  There are all kinds of places to easily get the hit stats for any game.  Right here on Covers for one.  Just hold your cursor (pointer) over the little box near the top of page that says MLB.  A little window will drop down, click on "scoreboard", you'll see all the scores from yesterday. Then click on "box score" on any of the match-ups.  Also, there is a calendar that you can click on for any date for games played that day. ESPN/MLB also has the boxscores and stats.

    Let me if you still have trouble finding any stats you need.  
    Keep up the good work.
     
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    hows this going?
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2011 - 9:14 AM ET #20

    I believe after tracking the 2011 season it's suppose to be 6 hits or less comming across the plate. this is how i'm going to post it.
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    I believe after tracking the 2011 season it's suppose to be 6 hits or less comming across the plate. this is how i'm going to post it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2011 - 9:17 AM ET #21

    april 20th  bankroll 2055


    plays today

    Laa  108  bet $100

    sf   113  bet $100


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    plays today

    Laa  108  bet $100

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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2011 - 1:34 PM ET #22

    jv040,  You seem to be having trouble defining HITS and RUNS.  HITS do not come across the plate as you stated in Post #20, RUNS come across the plate.  I'm sure if you e-mail Allen Moody he will tell you that the favorite, in their loss, had to allow no more than 6 HITS. Allowing 6 RUNS in a game is no feather in a team's cap.  Allowing 6 RUNS is not a good performance by a team.  Allowing 6 HITS indicates the underdog's pitching staff did a very good job last game.  The two plays you have posted for today, only SF actually qualifies, as the Rockies only had 3 hits last night (they also had 3 runs).  But, Texas had 9 HITS in their loss to the Angels.  

    I do wish you luck in using whatever rules you chose to use.  I just think you should make it clear to followers that you if use 6 RUNS as the standard for a play, it is not the same system that Allen Moody uses.   

    I think you are probably one of the top three posters on this site.


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    jv040,  You seem to be having trouble defining HITS and RUNS.  HITS do not come across the plate as you stated in Post #20, RUNS come across the plate.  I'm sure if you e-mail Allen Moody he will tell you that the favorite, in their loss, had to allow no more than 6 HITS. Allowing 6 RUNS in a game is no feather in a team's cap.  Allowing 6 RUNS is not a good performance by a team.  Allowing 6 HITS indicates the underdog's pitching staff did a very good job last game.  The two plays you have posted for today, only SF actually qualifies, as the Rockies only had 3 hits last night (they also had 3 runs).  But, Texas had 9 HITS in their loss to the Angels.  

    I do wish you luck in using whatever rules you chose to use.  I just think you should make it clear to followers that you if use 6 RUNS as the standard for a play, it is not the same system that Allen Moody uses.   

    I think you are probably one of the top three posters on this site.


     
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    I need to make a quick grammar correction on my last post just to be clear.

    I meant to say, I think you (jv040) should make it clear to followers that if you use 6 RUNS as the standard for a play, it is not the same system that Allen Moody uses.  
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    I need to make a quick grammar correction on my last post just to be clear.

    I meant to say, I think you (jv040) should make it clear to followers that if you use 6 RUNS as the standard for a play, it is not the same system that Allen Moody uses.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by observer55:

    I need to make a quick grammar correction on my last post just to be clear.

    I meant to say, I think you (jv040) should make it clear to followers that if you use 6 RUNS as the standard for a play, it is not the same system that Allen Moody uses.  

    are you sure about that?  I went back and looked at hits vs runs and theres always going to be more hits than runs. if you use 6 hits the way allen moody printed it out then there would not be any where near 11 plays for this season check it out for your self. I'm pretty sure that he meant comning across the plate just like in his other system he posted he used the words 3 hits or less but said it was coming across plate meaning runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by observer55:

    I need to make a quick grammar correction on my last post just to be clear.

    I meant to say, I think you (jv040) should make it clear to followers that if you use 6 RUNS as the standard for a play, it is not the same system that Allen Moody uses.  

    are you sure about that?  I went back and looked at hits vs runs and theres always going to be more hits than runs. if you use 6 hits the way allen moody printed it out then there would not be any where near 11 plays for this season check it out for your self. I'm pretty sure that he meant comning across the plate just like in his other system he posted he used the words 3 hits or less but said it was coming across plate meaning runs.

     
     
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    jv040,  You should read both of Moody's articles on the two systems again, very carefully.  In the "departing dog" system he says 6 HITS.  In fact, he says 6 HITS twice in the article.  He does not mean six runs. Allowing 6 RUNS would not have been a good game for the underdog. In the "low scoring dog" system, Moody clearly says 3 RUNS.  Obviously in that system he's using RUNS because it's very unlikely the underdog would have won the game if they only had 3 HITS.  

    I understand that Allen Moody is a pretty nice guy and answers his e-mails.  If you believe he did not print what he meant to print, then you should contact him.  I have no doubt that the systems are printed exactly as he intended them to be.  In the "departing dog" system 6 HITS is the qualifier, and in the "low scoring" dog system 3 RUNS is the qualifier.      
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    jv040,  You should read both of Moody's articles on the two systems again, very carefully.  In the "departing dog" system he says 6 HITS.  In fact, he says 6 HITS twice in the article.  He does not mean six runs. Allowing 6 RUNS would not have been a good game for the underdog. In the "low scoring dog" system, Moody clearly says 3 RUNS.  Obviously in that system he's using RUNS because it's very unlikely the underdog would have won the game if they only had 3 HITS.  

    I understand that Allen Moody is a pretty nice guy and answers his e-mails.  If you believe he did not print what he meant to print, then you should contact him.  I have no doubt that the systems are printed exactly as he intended them to be.  In the "departing dog" system 6 HITS is the qualifier, and in the "low scoring" dog system 3 RUNS is the qualifier.      
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