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    2013 NFL Betting System #2

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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2013 - 11:11 PM ET #1

    Here is the 2nd system that I will be tracking. I believe that Real QBR and Real Defensive QBR were created by Kerry Bryne. He received a ton of criticism when he claimed that Tim Tebow had outperformed Aaron Rodgers and rightly so.

    Using a system similar to that found in Betting System #1 and figuring out the slope and intercept values using linear regression, I was able to create a value. By then taking the difference between that value and the opponent, I was able to find a theoretical spread. I then compare that to the actual spread and side with the team that is "under-valued". I backtracked the system for 2011-12 and found that I would have picked 64% ATS. However, the system is flawed. 

    The previous year's statistics did not dictate future performance and would have done poorly in picking the spread. However, if one could be fairly accurate in determining how roster and coaching changes will influence Real QBR and Defensive QBR, then it might be profitable. 

    For example, I think Baltimore's Real QBR will take a hit with the loss of Anquan Boldin and Dennis Pitta; similarly, I expect Arizona's Real QBR to improve with the addition of Carson Palmer and a healthy and improved (but still below average) offensive line. 

    Without further ado, here are my week #1 picks using my numbers.
    Picks in bold. 

    Baltimore @ Denver -8 
    New England @ Buffalo +7
    Tennessee @ Pittsburgh -7
    Atlanta @ New Orleans -3
    Tampa Bay @ NY Jets +2.5
    Kansas City @ Jacksonville +3.5
    Seattle @ Carolina +3 
    Cincinnati @ Chicago +3.5
    Minnesota @ Detroit -3.5
    Oakland @ Indianapolis -7
    Green Bay @ San Francisco -4
    Arizona @ St. Louis -6
    NYG @ Dallas -2.5
    Houston @ San Diego -3

    I did not pick for Miami @ Cleveland (as my numbers were identical to the spread), nor did I choose between Philadelphia @ Washington due to the unknown health of RGIII.
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    Here is the 2nd system that I will be tracking. I believe that Real QBR and Real Defensive QBR were created by Kerry Bryne. He received a ton of criticism when he claimed that Tim Tebow had outperformed Aaron Rodgers and rightly so.

    Using a system similar to that found in Betting System #1 and figuring out the slope and intercept values using linear regression, I was able to create a value. By then taking the difference between that value and the opponent, I was able to find a theoretical spread. I then compare that to the actual spread and side with the team that is "under-valued". I backtracked the system for 2011-12 and found that I would have picked 64% ATS. However, the system is flawed. 

    The previous year's statistics did not dictate future performance and would have done poorly in picking the spread. However, if one could be fairly accurate in determining how roster and coaching changes will influence Real QBR and Defensive QBR, then it might be profitable. 

    For example, I think Baltimore's Real QBR will take a hit with the loss of Anquan Boldin and Dennis Pitta; similarly, I expect Arizona's Real QBR to improve with the addition of Carson Palmer and a healthy and improved (but still below average) offensive line. 

    Without further ado, here are my week #1 picks using my numbers.
    Picks in bold. 

    Baltimore @ Denver -8 
    New England @ Buffalo +7
    Tennessee @ Pittsburgh -7
    Atlanta @ New Orleans -3
    Tampa Bay @ NY Jets +2.5
    Kansas City @ Jacksonville +3.5
    Seattle @ Carolina +3 
    Cincinnati @ Chicago +3.5
    Minnesota @ Detroit -3.5
    Oakland @ Indianapolis -7
    Green Bay @ San Francisco -4
    Arizona @ St. Louis -6
    NYG @ Dallas -2.5
    Houston @ San Diego -3

    I did not pick for Miami @ Cleveland (as my numbers were identical to the spread), nor did I choose between Philadelphia @ Washington due to the unknown health of RGIII.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2013 - 12:56 AM ET #2

    Can't wait !
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2013 - 1:16 AM ET #3

    Week 1 Results 
    ATS = 7-7-1

    Thursday Nights Game
    NY Jets @ New England (-13)    Pick: NY Jets

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    Week 1 Results 
    ATS = 7-7-1

    Thursday Nights Game
    NY Jets @ New England (-13)    Pick: NY Jets

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2013 - 1:44 PM ET #4

    question how do you get the standard deviation for all 32 teams....or can u explain more.... good hit last night 
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    question how do you get the standard deviation for all 32 teams....or can u explain more.... good hit last night 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2013 - 12:20 PM ET #5

    Rest of week 2 picks:

    SD @ PHI (-7.5) SD

    CLE @ BAL (-7) CLE

    TEN @ HOU (-10) TEN

    MIA @ IND (-3) MIA

    CAR @ BUF (+3) CAR

    STL @ ATL (-6) STL

    DAL @ KC (-3) DAL

    MIN @ CHI (-6) MIN

    NO @ TB (+3.5) NO

    DET @ ARI (+2) ARI

    JAK @ OAK (-6) JAK

    DEN @ NYG (-4.5) DEN

    SF @ SEA (-3) SF

    PIT @ CIN (-7) PIT


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    Rest of week 2 picks:

    SD @ PHI (-7.5) SD

    CLE @ BAL (-7) CLE

    TEN @ HOU (-10) TEN

    MIA @ IND (-3) MIA

    CAR @ BUF (+3) CAR

    STL @ ATL (-6) STL

    DAL @ KC (-3) DAL

    MIN @ CHI (-6) MIN

    NO @ TB (+3.5) NO

    DET @ ARI (+2) ARI

    JAK @ OAK (-6) JAK

    DEN @ NYG (-4.5) DEN

    SF @ SEA (-3) SF

    PIT @ CIN (-7) PIT


     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2013 - 6:53 PM ET #6

    Week 2 Results: 8-8
    YTD: 15-15-1

    Created a HF advantage ranking and will integrate it into my algorithms. 

    Thursday Night: 
    KC @ PHI (-3.5) KC
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    Week 2 Results: 8-8
    YTD: 15-15-1

    Created a HF advantage ranking and will integrate it into my algorithms. 

    Thursday Night: 
    KC @ PHI (-3.5) KC
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2013 - 7:45 PM ET #7

    Ive never made anything like this.. but what if these additions your integrating messes things up?
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    Ive never made anything like this.. but what if these additions your integrating messes things up?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2013 - 1:17 AM ET #8

    Right now, I had no adjustments for HF advantage. Generally, people use -2.5 to -3 pts for it, but there are some teams that play significantly better at home (SEA, CHI, HOU) while others play worse (OAK, NYJ). 

    I will just back-test and compare to see if my numbers are getting closer/further away from the spread and if I would be doing better from a W-L betting perspective. 
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    Right now, I had no adjustments for HF advantage. Generally, people use -2.5 to -3 pts for it, but there are some teams that play significantly better at home (SEA, CHI, HOU) while others play worse (OAK, NYJ). 

    I will just back-test and compare to see if my numbers are getting closer/further away from the spread and if I would be doing better from a W-L betting perspective. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2013 - 11:00 PM ET #9

    Rest of Week 3 Picks 
    HOU @ BAL (+3)  No pick (my #'s EXACT same)
    NYG @ CAR (+1) NYG
    DET @ WAS (PK) DET
    SD @ TEN (-3) SD
    ARI @ NO (-7) ARI
    TB @ NE (-7) TB
    GB @ CIN (+3) GB
    STL @ DAL (-4) STL
    CLE @ MIN (-7) CLE
    ATL @ MIA (-3) ATL
    BUF @ NYJ (-3) BUF
    IND @ SF (-10) IND
    JAK @ SEA (-19) SEA
    CHI @ PIT (+3) CHI
    OAK @ DEN (-15.5) OAK
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    Rest of Week 3 Picks 
    HOU @ BAL (+3)  No pick (my #'s EXACT same)
    NYG @ CAR (+1) NYG
    DET @ WAS (PK) DET
    SD @ TEN (-3) SD
    ARI @ NO (-7) ARI
    TB @ NE (-7) TB
    GB @ CIN (+3) GB
    STL @ DAL (-4) STL
    CLE @ MIN (-7) CLE
    ATL @ MIA (-3) ATL
    BUF @ NYJ (-3) BUF
    IND @ SF (-10) IND
    JAK @ SEA (-19) SEA
    CHI @ PIT (+3) CHI
    OAK @ DEN (-15.5) OAK
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2013 - 1:32 AM ET #10

    Week 3 Record: 6-8-1
    YTD: 21-23-2

    Thursday Game
    SF @ STL (+3)  Pick: STL

    My number has it as +2.5 - too close for betting, but will track it. 
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    Week 3 Record: 6-8-1
    YTD: 21-23-2

    Thursday Game
    SF @ STL (+3)  Pick: STL

    My number has it as +2.5 - too close for betting, but will track it. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2013 - 8:37 PM ET #11

    PIT v. MIN (+3) PIT

    BAL v. BUF (+3.5) BAL

    CIN v. CLE (+4) CLE

    IND v. JAK (+9) JAK

    SEA v. HOU (+3) SEA

    ARI v. TB (-2.5) ARI 

    CHI v. TB (-3) CHI

    NYG v. KC (-5) NYG

    NYJ v. TEN (-3.5) NYJ

    DAL v. SD (+2) DAL

    NE v. ATL (-1.5) NE

    MIA v. NO (-7) MIA


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    PIT v. MIN (+3) PIT

    BAL v. BUF (+3.5) BAL

    CIN v. CLE (+4) CLE

    IND v. JAK (+9) JAK

    SEA v. HOU (+3) SEA

    ARI v. TB (-2.5) ARI 

    CHI v. TB (-3) CHI

    NYG v. KC (-5) NYG

    NYJ v. TEN (-3.5) NYJ

    DAL v. SD (+2) DAL

    NE v. ATL (-1.5) NE

    MIA v. NO (-7) MIA


     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2013 - 10:55 PM ET #12

    Week 4 Record: 4-9
    YTD: 25-32-2

    Thursday's Pick
    Buffalo @ Cleveland (-4)  Pick: BUF
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    Week 4 Record: 4-9
    YTD: 25-32-2

    Thursday's Pick
    Buffalo @ Cleveland (-4)  Pick: BUF
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2013 - 10:43 PM ET #13

    Rest of week 5 ...

    NO @ CHI (+1) No pick

    NE @ CIN (-1) NE

    DET @ GB (-7) DET

    SEA @ IND (+3) No pick

    BAL @ MIA (-3) BAL

    PHI @ NYG (-3) PHI

    JAK @ STL (-12) JAK

    KC @ TEN (+3) TEN

    CAR @ ARI (+2) ARI

    DEN @ DAL (+9) DAL

    HOU @ SF (-7) HOU

    SD @ OAK (+5) OAK

    NYJ @ ATL (-10) NYJ

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    NO @ CHI (+1) No pick

    NE @ CIN (-1) NE

    DET @ GB (-7) DET

    SEA @ IND (+3) No pick

    BAL @ MIA (-3) BAL

    PHI @ NYG (-3) PHI

    JAK @ STL (-12) JAK

    KC @ TEN (+3) TEN

    CAR @ ARI (+2) ARI

    DEN @ DAL (+9) DAL

    HOU @ SF (-7) HOU

    SD @ OAK (+5) OAK

    NYJ @ ATL (-10) NYJ

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2013 - 2:20 AM ET #14

    Week 5 Results: 6-6
    YTD: 31-38-2

    Thursday Night
    NY Giants @ Chicago (-8)  Pick: Chicago 
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    YTD: 31-38-2

    Thursday Night
    NY Giants @ Chicago (-8)  Pick: Chicago 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2013 - 12:13 PM ET #15

    Rest of picks ...

    GB @ BAL (+3) Pick: GB

    CIN @ BUF (+7) Pick: BUF

    DET @ CLE (+3) Pick: CLE

    STL @ HOU (-9) Pick: STL

    OAK @ KC (-9.5) Pick: OAK

    CAR @ MIN (-3) Pick: CAR

    PIT @ NYJ (-1) Pick: PIT

    PHI @ TB (+3) Pick: TB

    JAK @ DEN (-27) Pick: JAK

    TEN @ SEA (-14) Pick: TEN

    NO @ NE (-2.5) Pick: NO

    AR @ SF (-11) Pick: ARI

    WAS @ DAL (-6) Pick: WAS

    IND @ SD (+1) Pick: IND

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    GB @ BAL (+3) Pick: GB

    CIN @ BUF (+7) Pick: BUF

    DET @ CLE (+3) Pick: CLE

    STL @ HOU (-9) Pick: STL

    OAK @ KC (-9.5) Pick: OAK

    CAR @ MIN (-3) Pick: CAR

    PIT @ NYJ (-1) Pick: PIT

    PHI @ TB (+3) Pick: TB

    JAK @ DEN (-27) Pick: JAK

    TEN @ SEA (-14) Pick: TEN

    NO @ NE (-2.5) Pick: NO

    AR @ SF (-11) Pick: ARI

    WAS @ DAL (-6) Pick: WAS

    IND @ SD (+1) Pick: IND

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 6:47 PM ET #16

    Week 6 Results: 6-9
    YTD: 37-47-2 

    Thursday Night'er 

    SEA @ ARI (+6.5) Pick - Arizona 
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    YTD: 37-47-2 

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    SEA @ ARI (+6.5) Pick - Arizona 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2013 - 3:40 PM ET #17

    Rest of picks:

    NE @ NYJ (+4) Pick: NE

    SD @ JAK (+9) Pick: JAK

    BUF @ MIA (-9) Pick: BUF

    CHI @ WAS (-1) Pick: CHI

    DAL @ PHI (-3) Pick: DAL

    STL @ CAR (-6) Pick: STL

    TB @ ATL (-9) Pick: TB

    SF @ TEN (+4.5) Pick: TEN

    HOU @ KC (-7) Pick: HOU

    CLE @ GB (-10) Pick: CLE

    BAL @ PIT (-1) Pick: BAL

    DEN @ IND (+7) Pick: IND

    MIN @ NYG (-3.5) Pick: MIN

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    Rest of picks:

    NE @ NYJ (+4) Pick: NE

    SD @ JAK (+9) Pick: JAK

    BUF @ MIA (-9) Pick: BUF

    CHI @ WAS (-1) Pick: CHI

    DAL @ PHI (-3) Pick: DAL

    STL @ CAR (-6) Pick: STL

    TB @ ATL (-9) Pick: TB

    SF @ TEN (+4.5) Pick: TEN

    HOU @ KC (-7) Pick: HOU

    CLE @ GB (-10) Pick: CLE

    BAL @ PIT (-1) Pick: BAL

    DEN @ IND (+7) Pick: IND

    MIN @ NYG (-3.5) Pick: MIN

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2013 - 12:20 PM ET #18

    Week 7 Results: 4-10
    YTD: 41-57-2

    CAR @ TB +6 Pick: TB

    DAL @ DET -3 Pick: DAL

    SF @ JAK +16 Pick: JAK

    CLE @ KC -7.5 Pick: CLE

    MIA @ NE -6.5 Pick: MIA

    BUF @ NO -11 Pick: BUF

    NYG @ PHI -5 Pick: NYG

    NYJ @ CIN -6 Pick: NYJ

    PIT @ OAK +2 Pick: OAK

    ATL @ ARI -2.5 Pick: ATL

    WAS @ DEN -11.5 Pick: WAS

    GB @ MIN +8 Pick: MIN

    SEA @ STL +11 Pick: STL


    Something is clearly wrong with the coefficient values for the variables I use, as they continue to spit out nearly all underdogs. My lines are very close to the betting lines, but always a couple points on the side of the dog. 

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    Week 7 Results: 4-10
    YTD: 41-57-2

    CAR @ TB +6 Pick: TB

    DAL @ DET -3 Pick: DAL

    SF @ JAK +16 Pick: JAK

    CLE @ KC -7.5 Pick: CLE

    MIA @ NE -6.5 Pick: MIA

    BUF @ NO -11 Pick: BUF

    NYG @ PHI -5 Pick: NYG

    NYJ @ CIN -6 Pick: NYJ

    PIT @ OAK +2 Pick: OAK

    ATL @ ARI -2.5 Pick: ATL

    WAS @ DEN -11.5 Pick: WAS

    GB @ MIN +8 Pick: MIN

    SEA @ STL +11 Pick: STL


    Something is clearly wrong with the coefficient values for the variables I use, as they continue to spit out nearly all underdogs. My lines are very close to the betting lines, but always a couple points on the side of the dog. 

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2013 - 12:34 AM ET #19

    could use this a fade system man!!

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    could use this a fade system man!!

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