has nothing to do with skill. (no offense Tuppy)
I would compare it to winning the lottery - a whole hell of a lot of luck involved.
Your grandmother has as good of a chance in picking 21 winners in a row.
FnS
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has nothing to do with skill. (no offense Tuppy)
I would compare it to winning the lottery - a whole hell of a lot of luck involved.
Your grandmother has as good of a chance in picking 21 winners in a row.
FnS
Lol, I "sniff" some jealousy if you ask me. Picking 21 games has a lot to do with skill. Of course there is luck involved. The odds of hitting 21 straight games is 1 in nearly 2.1 million. However, knowing the trends, strengths, weaknesses, and what have you can help immensely. If handicapping involved no skill, than the average Joe could be a professional handicapper in Las Vegas. Why do you think those guys get paid the big bucks to set the lines, because the research they do proves to be dead on the majority of the time. If I had a dollar for every time a line hit within 1.5 or 1 point of the posted spread, I would be a millionaire. So in conclusion, give Tuppy some credit as luck and skill are equal partners in true handicapping. ||an_speak.gif' border=0>
Lol, I "sniff" some jealousy if you ask me. Picking 21 games has a lot to do with skill. Of course there is luck involved. The odds of hitting 21 straight games is 1 in nearly 2.1 million. However, knowing the trends, strengths, weaknesses, and what have you can help immensely. If handicapping involved no skill, than the average Joe could be a professional handicapper in Las Vegas. Why do you think those guys get paid the big bucks to set the lines, because the research they do proves to be dead on the majority of the time. If I had a dollar for every time a line hit within 1.5 or 1 point of the posted spread, I would be a millionaire. So in conclusion, give Tuppy some credit as luck and skill are equal partners in true handicapping. ||an_speak.gif' border=0>
BULLSHIT! those numbers they post are simple to provide. where do they get the statistics to post the numbers? from decades and decades of past games and experience. two teams playing ea. average 110 points per game then the O/U will be 219.5. no big deal.
the only reason there is a posted number is to create a betting interest. a perfect example of this is the early superbowl line. you can bet on the superbowl right now! guess what the line is? 7.5....YEAH THEY ARE GENIUS'.
It's like the game of craps....they figured out the odds long ago and they will never change. the only reason a game is -4.5 instead of -8.5 is because of current standing, past match-ups, etc. all those statistics at the match-up links at www.scoresandodds.com are not that impressive.
jesus||paint_help.gif' border=0> here comes the nazis
BULLSHIT! those numbers they post are simple to provide. where do they get the statistics to post the numbers? from decades and decades of past games and experience. two teams playing ea. average 110 points per game then the O/U will be 219.5. no big deal.
the only reason there is a posted number is to create a betting interest. a perfect example of this is the early superbowl line. you can bet on the superbowl right now! guess what the line is? 7.5....YEAH THEY ARE GENIUS'.
It's like the game of craps....they figured out the odds long ago and they will never change. the only reason a game is -4.5 instead of -8.5 is because of current standing, past match-ups, etc. all those statistics at the match-up links at www.scoresandodds.com are not that impressive.
jesus||paint_help.gif' border=0> here comes the nazis
Man you must be right because you know teams like Davidson and Wisconsin, and Western Kentucky and UCLA, play each other twice a year, year after year, for decades upon decades. And teams always remain the same for the handicappers to successfully use a result from the 1970s or 1980s to determine a spread for a game. I mean look at "all" the spreads where the 2008 Bulls are 8-10 point favorites everyday. I mean that is obviously due to the Bulls in the 1990s with Jordan, Grant, et al....
Don't be ignorant. RECENT TRENDS play a huge roll in determining a spread and handicappers do not go much past a decades worth of results to determine a spread for a game. ||an_cheers.gif' border=0>
Man you must be right because you know teams like Davidson and Wisconsin, and Western Kentucky and UCLA, play each other twice a year, year after year, for decades upon decades. And teams always remain the same for the handicappers to successfully use a result from the 1970s or 1980s to determine a spread for a game. I mean look at "all" the spreads where the 2008 Bulls are 8-10 point favorites everyday. I mean that is obviously due to the Bulls in the 1990s with Jordan, Grant, et al....
Don't be ignorant. RECENT TRENDS play a huge roll in determining a spread and handicappers do not go much past a decades worth of results to determine a spread for a game. ||an_cheers.gif' border=0>
they don't go much past their last drink. the lines are completely arbitrary. my dead grandmother could set the lines. stop giving these people credit for creating an arbitrary number. you think they are smart for getting numbers to land exactly or 1 or 2 points away. you said if you had dollar for everytime the score landed on the number...how many times does it not land on the number. stop blowing these 'spread makers' horn.
in football, the numbers 3, 7, & 10 are very important. I wonder why? ||an_shake.gif' border=0>||an_laugh.gif' border=0>||an_burningbag.gif' border=0>
they don't go much past their last drink. the lines are completely arbitrary. my dead grandmother could set the lines. stop giving these people credit for creating an arbitrary number. you think they are smart for getting numbers to land exactly or 1 or 2 points away. you said if you had dollar for everytime the score landed on the number...how many times does it not land on the number. stop blowing these 'spread makers' horn.
in football, the numbers 3, 7, & 10 are very important. I wonder why? ||an_shake.gif' border=0>||an_laugh.gif' border=0>||an_burningbag.gif' border=0>
Skill is involved--
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When Tuppy got to 15 or 16---if he just chose randomly,he wouldn't have gotten the prize||win.gif' border=0>
Skill is involved--
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When Tuppy got to 15 or 16---if he just chose randomly,he wouldn't have gotten the prize||win.gif' border=0>
I remember the game that he won---Lakers were at home --I think against Phoenix.Phoenix was hot and Tuppy knew it||an_wink.gif' border=0>
Skill is involved||Peace_5.gif' border=0>
I remember the game that he won---Lakers were at home --I think against Phoenix.Phoenix was hot and Tuppy knew it||an_wink.gif' border=0>
Skill is involved||Peace_5.gif' border=0>
yea bases if the lines dont mean nothin then y havent u won yet? I mean if they dont mean nothin u should win hands down. so u should of put the emoticons as the head beatin off the wall cuz ur point n laugh and finger wave emoticons make u look n sound even more stupid, shit email covers.com or wagerline.com and see if they got any lines maker jobs open cuz u seem to kno how it works. ||an_laugh.gif' border=0>||an_roll_laugh.gif' border=0> thats me laughin at ur stupidness LOL
yea bases if the lines dont mean nothin then y havent u won yet? I mean if they dont mean nothin u should win hands down. so u should of put the emoticons as the head beatin off the wall cuz ur point n laugh and finger wave emoticons make u look n sound even more stupid, shit email covers.com or wagerline.com and see if they got any lines maker jobs open cuz u seem to kno how it works. ||an_laugh.gif' border=0>||an_roll_laugh.gif' border=0> thats me laughin at ur stupidness LOL
i'm not saying they don't mean anything...i'm simply saying don't act as though the people who set the lines are MIT grads or some kind of genius mathmatical guru.
Just because a number lands on or close to the prediction, doesn't mean anything but a coincidence.
If a basketball spread is 6, and it lands on six, all that means is the team made 3 more hoops than the other team.
i'm not saying they don't mean anything...i'm simply saying don't act as though the people who set the lines are MIT grads or some kind of genius mathmatical guru.
Just because a number lands on or close to the prediction, doesn't mean anything but a coincidence.
If a basketball spread is 6, and it lands on six, all that means is the team made 3 more hoops than the other team.
way to go tuppy||win.gif' border=0>
F&S-don't you belong in covers archives?
and it does involve skill as well as luck.
F&S has hard time picking his nose, let alone 3 winners in a row.
way to go tuppy||win.gif' border=0>
F&S-don't you belong in covers archives?
and it does involve skill as well as luck.
F&S has hard time picking his nose, let alone 3 winners in a row.
I JUST ENDED MY STREAK OF 9. LET ME SAY THIS: YES A FEW LUCKY BREAKS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT ANYONE THAT THINKS IT'S ALL LUCK OR MOSTLY LUCK IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY! WHAT TUPPY DID WAS MIND BOGGLING! I FOR ONE AM IN AWE OF HIS REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT! HE HAS ABSOLUTELY EARNED MY RESPECT! ALSO, HE CONTINUES TO RUN UP OTHER IMPRESSIVE STEAKS IN THE CONTEST! HOW MUCH LUCK DO YOU THINK ONE PERSON CAN HAVE? THIS MAN IS FLAT OUT SKILLFUL!||win.gif' border=0>
I JUST ENDED MY STREAK OF 9. LET ME SAY THIS: YES A FEW LUCKY BREAKS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT ANYONE THAT THINKS IT'S ALL LUCK OR MOSTLY LUCK IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY! WHAT TUPPY DID WAS MIND BOGGLING! I FOR ONE AM IN AWE OF HIS REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT! HE HAS ABSOLUTELY EARNED MY RESPECT! ALSO, HE CONTINUES TO RUN UP OTHER IMPRESSIVE STEAKS IN THE CONTEST! HOW MUCH LUCK DO YOU THINK ONE PERSON CAN HAVE? THIS MAN IS FLAT OUT SKILLFUL!||win.gif' border=0>
fart i agree with you on this. Anyone who has been on the site for a couple of years would tell you this to. It takes a lot of luck to get a good streak going. Even when your talking 9 or 10 in a row their will be 2 or 3 of them you lucked out on its almost certain. Takes some skill on your part but a lot of luck.
fart i agree with you on this. Anyone who has been on the site for a couple of years would tell you this to. It takes a lot of luck to get a good streak going. Even when your talking 9 or 10 in a row their will be 2 or 3 of them you lucked out on its almost certain. Takes some skill on your part but a lot of luck.
All i know is i got the money and it really does not matter if people think it was luck or skill or both.
I believe it also took intuition add all 3 together and you get 22 wins.
All i know is i got the money and it really does not matter if people think it was luck or skill or both.
I believe it also took intuition add all 3 together and you get 22 wins.
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