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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 11:38 AM ET #51

    DROGBA OUT FOR THE WORLD CUP BROKE HIS ARM IN THE JAPAN WARM UP.....IVORY COAST"S CHANCES ARE NOT LOOKING GOOD >...any thoughts on this?
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 11:43 AM ET #52

    I think I'm going to split that bet- US not to advance for 1/2 and Slovenia to advance for 1/2,  If Algeria advances, then I'll be about even. 
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    I think I'm going to split that bet- US not to advance for 1/2 and Slovenia to advance for 1/2,  If Algeria advances, then I'll be about even. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 12:16 PM ET #53

    Vanczak, great writeup although I disagee at many points along the way.  I guess that's why they play the games

    Group A

    Anybody could win and anyone could finish in last.  A total crapshoot.  One thing I disagree with you on is South Africa's point total.  They will not end at 0 and I would be willing to put every dollar in my account on that.  I also think France is not long for this tournament.  They shouldn't be here and I think they'll play like it

    Group B

    Not too many disagreements except that I see a handful of ties with defensive squads like Greece and South Korea.  You have every game ending in a win for one team.  Argentina should cruise but after that I think they are a disaster.  You have to have a coach that isn't a moron and the French & Argentines will suffer from this syndrome. 

    Group C

    I'm biased because I'm a US fan and will be going to all of their games but I also don't see them ending up on two points.  Algeria likely will get a draw at best.  I agree with you that England should win the group but will be finished quickly thereafter.  Just because the media hypes you doesn't mean you're any good.  There will be a lot of beer flowing to drown the sorrows in London come late June

    Group D

    Toss up - anyone can take this.  I like Serbia as do you.  I don't like Ghana now that Essien is toast.  I'm thinking something along the lines of 1) Serbia, 2) Germany, 3) Australia, 4) Ghana

    Group E

    No complaints about your order of finish but once again there will be a handful of draws in this group amonng the Danes, Cameroon and Japan.  I also think Holland will look great coming out of the group with 9 points, look like the best team in the tournament, and then lay an absolute stinker to knock themselves out in the quarters or semis (same as Euro '08)

    Group F

    I'd love to see the Italians be trumped for 1st by either Paraguay or Slovakia.  Somehow I think they pull it off but they are old and will fall in the round of 16, quarters at the latest.

    Group G

    It's a cryin' shame about Drogba, especially with the Cup in Africa.  I think his loss puts some separation between the Portuguese and Ivorians for 2nd place behind Brazil.

    Group H

    Switzerland has talen but they've been horrible lately.  I also think Chile is flat out better so I feel pretty secure that this will be Spain and Chile. 

    Brazil wins it all

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    Vanczak, great writeup although I disagee at many points along the way.  I guess that's why they play the games

    Group A

    Anybody could win and anyone could finish in last.  A total crapshoot.  One thing I disagree with you on is South Africa's point total.  They will not end at 0 and I would be willing to put every dollar in my account on that.  I also think France is not long for this tournament.  They shouldn't be here and I think they'll play like it

    Group B

    Not too many disagreements except that I see a handful of ties with defensive squads like Greece and South Korea.  You have every game ending in a win for one team.  Argentina should cruise but after that I think they are a disaster.  You have to have a coach that isn't a moron and the French & Argentines will suffer from this syndrome. 

    Group C

    I'm biased because I'm a US fan and will be going to all of their games but I also don't see them ending up on two points.  Algeria likely will get a draw at best.  I agree with you that England should win the group but will be finished quickly thereafter.  Just because the media hypes you doesn't mean you're any good.  There will be a lot of beer flowing to drown the sorrows in London come late June

    Group D

    Toss up - anyone can take this.  I like Serbia as do you.  I don't like Ghana now that Essien is toast.  I'm thinking something along the lines of 1) Serbia, 2) Germany, 3) Australia, 4) Ghana

    Group E

    No complaints about your order of finish but once again there will be a handful of draws in this group amonng the Danes, Cameroon and Japan.  I also think Holland will look great coming out of the group with 9 points, look like the best team in the tournament, and then lay an absolute stinker to knock themselves out in the quarters or semis (same as Euro '08)

    Group F

    I'd love to see the Italians be trumped for 1st by either Paraguay or Slovakia.  Somehow I think they pull it off but they are old and will fall in the round of 16, quarters at the latest.

    Group G

    It's a cryin' shame about Drogba, especially with the Cup in Africa.  I think his loss puts some separation between the Portuguese and Ivorians for 2nd place behind Brazil.

    Group H

    Switzerland has talen but they've been horrible lately.  I also think Chile is flat out better so I feel pretty secure that this will be Spain and Chile. 

    Brazil wins it all

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 2:10 PM ET #54

    Portugal are playing worse than France in the last year...

    I'm shocked none have learned their lesson w/ this team

    The coach is lost and Cristiano is not big enough to do it by himself

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    Portugal are playing worse than France in the last year...

    I'm shocked none have learned their lesson w/ this team

    The coach is lost and Cristiano is not big enough to do it by himself

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 2:11 PM ET #55

    Plus Milito wiil not start for Argentina it'll be Sergio or Higuian
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    Plus Milito wiil not start for Argentina it'll be Sergio or Higuian
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 3:18 PM ET #56

    First day wagers - June 11:

    1.  South Africa / Mexico OVER 2 -122 (1.5 units)
    2.  Uruguay +.5 -109 (2 units)

    This France loss today wont help the Uruguay line.....

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    First day wagers - June 11:

    1.  South Africa / Mexico OVER 2 -122 (1.5 units)
    2.  Uruguay +.5 -109 (2 units)

    This France loss today wont help the Uruguay line.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 3:39 PM ET #57

    I just read online from The Guardian that the French newspaper L'Equipe is reporting that Didier Drogba had an emergency operation on his elbow and is hoping to play in the Ivory Coast's opening match against Portugal.

    Thanks for the World Cup preview writeup Van De Zack, it was an interesting read.  Good luck the next 5 weeks, except I hope that the USA team does much better than you expect!

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    I just read online from The Guardian that the French newspaper L'Equipe is reporting that Didier Drogba had an emergency operation on his elbow and is hoping to play in the Ivory Coast's opening match against Portugal.

    Thanks for the World Cup preview writeup Van De Zack, it was an interesting read.  Good luck the next 5 weeks, except I hope that the USA team does much better than you expect!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeMeSucka:

    I just read online from The Guardian that the French newspaper L'Equipe is reporting that Didier Drogba had an emergency operation on his elbow and is hoping to play in the Ivory Coast's opening match against Portugal.

    Thanks for the World Cup preview writeup Van De Zack, it was an interesting read.  Good luck the next 5 weeks, except I hope that the USA team does much better than you expect!

    I hope so too!  Nobody is a bigger USA homer than me, and nothing would make me happier than losing my bet on them not to advance.  Beating England would be unreal.

    I hope Drogba can be alright - it would be a shame for the sport to not have him there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeMeSucka:

    I just read online from The Guardian that the French newspaper L'Equipe is reporting that Didier Drogba had an emergency operation on his elbow and is hoping to play in the Ivory Coast's opening match against Portugal.

    Thanks for the World Cup preview writeup Van De Zack, it was an interesting read.  Good luck the next 5 weeks, except I hope that the USA team does much better than you expect!

    I hope so too!  Nobody is a bigger USA homer than me, and nothing would make me happier than losing my bet on them not to advance.  Beating England would be unreal.

    I hope Drogba can be alright - it would be a shame for the sport to not have him there.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 5:01 PM ET #59

    Van, this may be a stupid question, but do you flat bet your futures? By flat bet I mean the correct definition of flat bet from the thread you created.
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    Van, this may be a stupid question, but do you flat bet your futures? By flat bet I mean the correct definition of flat bet from the thread you created.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 5:15 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Group E:  The Netherlands are back with a ridiculously talented team.  So what’s new?  They always look unbeatable on paper, and then always manage to play 3 or 4 great games, and one stinker and done.   Will they be able to overcome the history of losing like in Euro 08 to Russia after looking like world beaters in their first 3 games?   I’m thinking they might – but like someone who has been burned by an unfaithful friend – I can’t trust them.  Sneijder, Robben, Van Persie, Kuyt, Van Bommel, Heitinga, Van der Vart – the list goes on and on – they are simply loaded and should breeze through the group.  But they are in the tough side of the draw and potentially will have to play Italy, Brazil, and England on their way to the final – and then beat a good team there – and I just don’t trust them to be consistent enough to do it.  Right up there with the top teams in the tournament in talent, and if they put it together for 7 games I would not be surprised to see them lift the Cup.  Denmark topped a qualification group that included Portugal, Sweden, and Hungary – and possess a world class striker in Nicklas Bendtner – so sleep on this team at your own peril.  A very balanced team that is able to adapt to opponents style.   Cameroon is back – the African country with the most world cup appearances – but I don’t look for them to go very far.  Their undisciplined rough play, along with defensive lapses have typically been their downfall – but they have also recently added scoring inconsistency which saw them lose to Zambia in the ACN 1-0, and then getting bounced by eventual champions Egypt.  Eto’o is a great striker, but can’t do it alone.  Way too much inconsistency to make a run here.  Im not going to spend much time talking about Japan, because they should be terrible and they are basically made up of almost all J-League players.  Not much talent, and are happy just to be there.

     

    Handicapping Analysis and Bets:  The Dutch win this group easily – and I will gladly lay -145 for 4 units.  I will also take Denmark to advance at +105 for 1 unit.  I also took Japan to get 0 points at +360 for 1 unit.

     

    Predicted Group E Finish (country, points):

    1.  Netherlands 9

    2.  Denmark 6

    3.  Cameroon 3

    4.  Japan 0

    Netherlands will not have to face Italy until the final if both will win their groups
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Group E:  The Netherlands are back with a ridiculously talented team.  So what’s new?  They always look unbeatable on paper, and then always manage to play 3 or 4 great games, and one stinker and done.   Will they be able to overcome the history of losing like in Euro 08 to Russia after looking like world beaters in their first 3 games?   I’m thinking they might – but like someone who has been burned by an unfaithful friend – I can’t trust them.  Sneijder, Robben, Van Persie, Kuyt, Van Bommel, Heitinga, Van der Vart – the list goes on and on – they are simply loaded and should breeze through the group.  But they are in the tough side of the draw and potentially will have to play Italy, Brazil, and England on their way to the final – and then beat a good team there – and I just don’t trust them to be consistent enough to do it.  Right up there with the top teams in the tournament in talent, and if they put it together for 7 games I would not be surprised to see them lift the Cup.  Denmark topped a qualification group that included Portugal, Sweden, and Hungary – and possess a world class striker in Nicklas Bendtner – so sleep on this team at your own peril.  A very balanced team that is able to adapt to opponents style.   Cameroon is back – the African country with the most world cup appearances – but I don’t look for them to go very far.  Their undisciplined rough play, along with defensive lapses have typically been their downfall – but they have also recently added scoring inconsistency which saw them lose to Zambia in the ACN 1-0, and then getting bounced by eventual champions Egypt.  Eto’o is a great striker, but can’t do it alone.  Way too much inconsistency to make a run here.  Im not going to spend much time talking about Japan, because they should be terrible and they are basically made up of almost all J-League players.  Not much talent, and are happy just to be there.

     

    Handicapping Analysis and Bets:  The Dutch win this group easily – and I will gladly lay -145 for 4 units.  I will also take Denmark to advance at +105 for 1 unit.  I also took Japan to get 0 points at +360 for 1 unit.

     

    Predicted Group E Finish (country, points):

    1.  Netherlands 9

    2.  Denmark 6

    3.  Cameroon 3

    4.  Japan 0

    Netherlands will not have to face Italy until the final if both will win their groups
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 5:18 PM ET #61

    I'm sorry now I saw that you put Italy on the second place in their group...My bad...
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    I'm sorry now I saw that you put Italy on the second place in their group...My bad...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 10:14 PM ET #62

    Highly value your insight here, Van. Thanks for your contribution. This write-up was above and beyond the help I was looking for going into the WC. Just can't wait for next Friday...


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    Highly value your insight here, Van. Thanks for your contribution. This write-up was above and beyond the help I was looking for going into the WC. Just can't wait for next Friday...


     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 10:16 PM ET #63

    Holy sheet, Van... awesome!  Thank you for this.  Very helpful!

    GL my friend. 
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    Holy sheet, Van... awesome!  Thank you for this.  Very helpful!

    GL my friend. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 11:09 PM ET #64

    Van - Looks like you put a lot of work into this, but the USA is not the 26th best team in this tournament.  That is borderline idiotic man, with all due respect.  They are a top 15-18 team.
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    Van - Looks like you put a lot of work into this, but the USA is not the 26th best team in this tournament.  That is borderline idiotic man, with all due respect.  They are a top 15-18 team.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 11:27 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskeyhangover:

    Van - Looks like you put a lot of work into this, but the USA is not the 26th best team in this tournament.  That is borderline idiotic man, with all due respect.  They are a top 15-18 team.

    You're absolutely right. They're WORSE. Might be the worst defense on a decent rated team in the history of the World Cup.

    Vanzack, I'm thinking the best bet of the first round of games is England to win the first half against USA (to avoid laying the chalk or essentially banking on a 2+ goal victory margin even though it absolutely should happen). Thoughts?

    P.S. I really like the Netherlands as a bet to win this thing with the odds they're getting, even in what will definitely the tougher side of the draw (Argentina should get to the final 4 on talent alone on that right side)
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    Van - Looks like you put a lot of work into this, but the USA is not the 26th best team in this tournament.  That is borderline idiotic man, with all due respect.  They are a top 15-18 team.

    You're absolutely right. They're WORSE. Might be the worst defense on a decent rated team in the history of the World Cup.

    Vanzack, I'm thinking the best bet of the first round of games is England to win the first half against USA (to avoid laying the chalk or essentially banking on a 2+ goal victory margin even though it absolutely should happen). Thoughts?

    P.S. I really like the Netherlands as a bet to win this thing with the odds they're getting, even in what will definitely the tougher side of the draw (Argentina should get to the final 4 on talent alone on that right side)
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 11:35 PM ET #66

    salutes Sir --you are one sharp capper...lookin for to grindin out another banner season from the college gridiron with you as well
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    salutes Sir --you are one sharp capper...lookin for to grindin out another banner season from the college gridiron with you as well
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 11:40 PM ET #67

    USA and England have  injury problems, what European team currently has the least amount  of injury concern.

    Brazil

    Italy

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    USA and England have  injury problems, what European team currently has the least amount  of injury concern.

    Brazil

    Italy

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 11:42 PM ET #68

    6 days 10 hours plus

     

    Messi talking trash...Their coach is a douchebag.

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    6 days 10 hours plus

     

    Messi talking trash...Their coach is a douchebag.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 11:42 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by djcfl1:


    You're absolutely right. They're WORSE. Might be the worst defense on a decent rated team in the history of the World Cup.

    Vanzack, I'm thinking the best bet of the first round of games is England to win the first half against USA (to avoid laying the chalk or essentially banking on a 2+ goal victory margin even though it absolutely should happen). Thoughts?

    P.S. I really like the Netherlands as a bet to win this thing with the odds they're getting, even in what will definitely the tougher side of the draw (Argentina should get to the final 4 on talent alone on that right side)
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    Quote Originally Posted by djcfl1:


    You're absolutely right. They're WORSE. Might be the worst defense on a decent rated team in the history of the World Cup.

    Vanzack, I'm thinking the best bet of the first round of games is England to win the first half against USA (to avoid laying the chalk or essentially banking on a 2+ goal victory margin even though it absolutely should happen). Thoughts?

    P.S. I really like the Netherlands as a bet to win this thing with the odds they're getting, even in what will definitely the tougher side of the draw (Argentina should get to the final 4 on talent alone on that right side)
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2010 - 11:43 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdpig:

    USA and England have  injury problems, what European team currently has the least amount  of injury concern.

    Brazil

    Italy

    Italy is old and hurt many of their stars won't make it past the first week of games (the older stars) Pirlo is already back in Milan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdpig:

    USA and England have  injury problems, what European team currently has the least amount  of injury concern.

    Brazil

    Italy

    Italy is old and hurt many of their stars won't make it past the first week of games (the older stars) Pirlo is already back in Milan...
     
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    I know France has not been looking good at all but I am finding it hard to bet against them.......Uruguay play football similar to Arsenal. Short swift passes keeping the ball on the ground and its really good to watch them, the whole team moves forward ..........Uruguay are playing as a team which is what France are lacking.....Frances starting team is amazing on paper and I find it so hard to bet against them even though all signs put to 1X in their matchup against Uruguay..........On paper they rival any team.....France has good quality and depth.......If these seasoned veterens can somehow click when the pressure is on....they can hang with the best in the world......Henry, Anelka, Malouda,Cisse, Ribery, Sagna, Evra, Clichy, Gignac.....More than enough quality and experience.......Uruguay may be overwhelmed with that midfiald battle, the speed of Henry and Riberys abilty to penetrate the defense with the ball could spell trouble for Uruguay and their defense....Malouda and Anelka play together so that should help a lot and with Evra and Gallas in the back it is certainly enough experience and quality to hold off any tream....France have a history of not scoring many goals but the same is said for their opponents.......they give up very few goals..........I think this could go 1-0 to either team..........This game is a tough call...Im just not willing to bet against a team who has a history for winning at the right time.....and Henry is due for a break out toury in his career....He generally under performs on the big stage but with thte hand of god incident,,,,,,,,what more motivation does he need to prove to the world that he is one of the best in the world............Hes heading to NY RedBulls I think and hes not wanted by Barca so I think he has something to prove to himself too...He knows this is his last World Cup...........I still see France winning the group.........at worst....second........Mexico and Uruguay will not be the two who progress.........It will be france........and one of the two......IMO

    Take these friendlies with a grain of salt....I see a lot of lazy, demotivated, "I dont want to get injured," styles of play.......Many teams are still cutting their squads to the required 23 men and they are putting their weakest links in the roughest possible positions to determine who stays and who goes....The coaches knows their starting 11........They are sorting out suitable replacements right now..........try to remember your thoughts before the friendlies and see what has changed...........

    For me.......the friendlies have helped and hindered...........They confirmed to me that Greece suck when I thought they would do well......Paraguay and Chile really impressed me moving forward as a team and I was surprised how good they looked but I am still a bit skeptical because I know their striking is world class////but how is the defense ...will the defense hold up////

    Sorry to ramble.........I dont support France by the way.......Just worried about betting on day 1.......Mexico DNB @ 1.875 is locked in........Now what to do in the France game??????????

     

    Getting close to the start...........CANT FKN WAIT

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    I know France has not been looking good at all but I am finding it hard to bet against them.......Uruguay play football similar to Arsenal. Short swift passes keeping the ball on the ground and its really good to watch them, the whole team moves forward ..........Uruguay are playing as a team which is what France are lacking.....Frances starting team is amazing on paper and I find it so hard to bet against them even though all signs put to 1X in their matchup against Uruguay..........On paper they rival any team.....France has good quality and depth.......If these seasoned veterens can somehow click when the pressure is on....they can hang with the best in the world......Henry, Anelka, Malouda,Cisse, Ribery, Sagna, Evra, Clichy, Gignac.....More than enough quality and experience.......Uruguay may be overwhelmed with that midfiald battle, the speed of Henry and Riberys abilty to penetrate the defense with the ball could spell trouble for Uruguay and their defense....Malouda and Anelka play together so that should help a lot and with Evra and Gallas in the back it is certainly enough experience and quality to hold off any tream....France have a history of not scoring many goals but the same is said for their opponents.......they give up very few goals..........I think this could go 1-0 to either team..........This game is a tough call...Im just not willing to bet against a team who has a history for winning at the right time.....and Henry is due for a break out toury in his career....He generally under performs on the big stage but with thte hand of god incident,,,,,,,,what more motivation does he need to prove to the world that he is one of the best in the world............Hes heading to NY RedBulls I think and hes not wanted by Barca so I think he has something to prove to himself too...He knows this is his last World Cup...........I still see France winning the group.........at worst....second........Mexico and Uruguay will not be the two who progress.........It will be france........and one of the two......IMO

    Take these friendlies with a grain of salt....I see a lot of lazy, demotivated, "I dont want to get injured," styles of play.......Many teams are still cutting their squads to the required 23 men and they are putting their weakest links in the roughest possible positions to determine who stays and who goes....The coaches knows their starting 11........They are sorting out suitable replacements right now..........try to remember your thoughts before the friendlies and see what has changed...........

    For me.......the friendlies have helped and hindered...........They confirmed to me that Greece suck when I thought they would do well......Paraguay and Chile really impressed me moving forward as a team and I was surprised how good they looked but I am still a bit skeptical because I know their striking is world class////but how is the defense ...will the defense hold up////

    Sorry to ramble.........I dont support France by the way.......Just worried about betting on day 1.......Mexico DNB @ 1.875 is locked in........Now what to do in the France game??????????

     

    Getting close to the start...........CANT FKN WAIT

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2010 - 12:14 AM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by djcfl1:


    You're absolutely right. They're WORSE. Might be the worst defense on a decent rated team in the history of the World Cup.

    Vanzack, I'm thinking the best bet of the first round of games is England to win the first half against USA (to avoid laying the chalk or essentially banking on a 2+ goal victory margin even though it absolutely should happen). Thoughts?

    P.S. I really like the Netherlands as a bet to win this thing with the odds they're getting, even in what will definitely the tougher side of the draw (Argentina should get to the final 4 on talent alone on that right side)

    So van takes Argentina to win it all and they probably have a worse defense than the USA.  But he is a great capper, right? The USA has a top 10 midfield in the WC and one of the best keepers in the world.  I am not touting them to win it all and probably will do no better than the round of 16, but they are certainly not 26th or worse.  That just shows a lack of understanding of where the US team is. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by djcfl1:


    You're absolutely right. They're WORSE. Might be the worst defense on a decent rated team in the history of the World Cup.

    Vanzack, I'm thinking the best bet of the first round of games is England to win the first half against USA (to avoid laying the chalk or essentially banking on a 2+ goal victory margin even though it absolutely should happen). Thoughts?

    P.S. I really like the Netherlands as a bet to win this thing with the odds they're getting, even in what will definitely the tougher side of the draw (Argentina should get to the final 4 on talent alone on that right side)

    So van takes Argentina to win it all and they probably have a worse defense than the USA.  But he is a great capper, right? The USA has a top 10 midfield in the WC and one of the best keepers in the world.  I am not touting them to win it all and probably will do no better than the round of 16, but they are certainly not 26th or worse.  That just shows a lack of understanding of where the US team is. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2010 - 12:14 AM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by mohjo:

    Uh, Argentina anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohjo:

    Uh, Argentina anyone?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2010 - 12:32 AM ET #74

    for sure u dont know soccer

     

     

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    for sure u dont know soccer

     

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2010 - 12:40 AM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskeyhangover:

    Uh, Argentina anyone?

    Another bad defence but since the Germany game where Maradona went w/ 4 centre halfs they've looked really good and haven't allowed a goal as opposed to USA who looks worse against much weaker teams than Germany (Czech, Turkey)

    But I understand that Argentina is bad also it still doesn't hide the fact that the US looks lost and don't know how to keep the line tight...

    GO USA I am American!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm staying away from betting their games but cheering is mandatory...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskeyhangover:

    Uh, Argentina anyone?

    Another bad defence but since the Germany game where Maradona went w/ 4 centre halfs they've looked really good and haven't allowed a goal as opposed to USA who looks worse against much weaker teams than Germany (Czech, Turkey)

    But I understand that Argentina is bad also it still doesn't hide the fact that the US looks lost and don't know how to keep the line tight...

    GO USA I am American!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm staying away from betting their games but cheering is mandatory...

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