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    pk and +0.5?? what the hell does this mean?

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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:02 AM ET #1

    Hi All,

     

    I’m a total soccer noob, can anyone explain to me how the  “pk and +.5” work?  I cant find a thread on it..

     

    Mon 6/11

    England

    pk and +0.5 -121

    09:00 AM

    France

    pk and -0.5 +114

     

    If I went with England, what are the scenarios where I would win and lose?

     

     

    Thanks, Gents!

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    Hi All,

     

    I’m a total soccer noob, can anyone explain to me how the  “pk and +.5” work?  I cant find a thread on it..

     

    Mon 6/11

    England

    pk and +0.5 -121

    09:00 AM

    France

    pk and -0.5 +114

     

    If I went with England, what are the scenarios where I would win and lose?

     

     

    Thanks, Gents!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:04 AM ET #2

    pk = draw is a push - england wins you win at line given.
    +.5 is england gets a half a goal meaning you win if they tie or win

    same goes for france on the reverse side.

    so with the pk a draw pushes hence heavier juice for france and with ML or -.5 they need to win by a goal. for -1 they need to win by more then a goal as a 1 goal win would be a push.

    Just like any spread in any other sport.
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    pk = draw is a push - england wins you win at line given.
    +.5 is england gets a half a goal meaning you win if they tie or win

    same goes for france on the reverse side.

    so with the pk a draw pushes hence heavier juice for france and with ML or -.5 they need to win by a goal. for -1 they need to win by more then a goal as a 1 goal win would be a push.

    Just like any spread in any other sport.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:07 AM ET #3

    how is this different than a pk?  why bother adding the +0.5?
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    how is this different than a pk?  why bother adding the +0.5?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:07 AM ET #4

    if you wager $120 to win 100 on England pk, +.5 (also known as +.25, THEN, half of your bet is on the pickem, and half of your bet is on the +.5 (also known at NOT TO LOSE)


    if England draws, you push the pk bet and get $60 refunded, and you win the +.5 bet, for a net win of $50.

    If england wins, you win both bets, or $100

    If England loses, you lose both bets, or $120
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    if you wager $120 to win 100 on England pk, +.5 (also known as +.25, THEN, half of your bet is on the pickem, and half of your bet is on the +.5 (also known at NOT TO LOSE)


    if England draws, you push the pk bet and get $60 refunded, and you win the +.5 bet, for a net win of $50.

    If england wins, you win both bets, or $100

    If England loses, you lose both bets, or $120
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:08 AM ET #5

    oh wait, so with a TIE, then England cashes but France loses?
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    oh wait, so with a TIE, then England cashes but France loses?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:10 AM ET #6

    thanks bakemcbride. 
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    thanks bakemcbride. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:10 AM ET #7

    +.5 costs more than a pk.
    pk costs more that a moneyline


    example:

    Holland -1  +150
    Holland -.5, -1  +100
    Holland ML -135
    Holland pk, -.5   -200
    Holland pk  -225
    Holland pk, +.5  -300
    Holland +.5  -400
    Holland +.5, +1  -475
    Holland +1  +550

    can you see how the more risk you take, the better the price you get, whereas the more protection you "buy", the more it will cost you.

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    +.5 costs more than a pk.
    pk costs more that a moneyline


    example:

    Holland -1  +150
    Holland -.5, -1  +100
    Holland ML -135
    Holland pk, -.5   -200
    Holland pk  -225
    Holland pk, +.5  -300
    Holland +.5  -400
    Holland +.5, +1  -475
    Holland +1  +550

    can you see how the more risk you take, the better the price you get, whereas the more protection you "buy", the more it will cost you.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:11 AM ET #8

    Holland +1 should say -550...sorry, I was typing fast
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    Holland +1 should say -550...sorry, I was typing fast
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2012 - 10:12 AM ET #9

    If France and England draw, you will win half your bet if you are on England, and you will lose half your bet if you are on France.
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    If France and England draw, you will win half your bet if you are on England, and you will lose half your bet if you are on France.
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