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    yorosan
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2022 - 6:22 PM ET #1

    In 2018 france - they have 2 best defensive midfielders at that time

    progba+Kante

    in 2014 germany, humnels+boating leading by elite midfielders schweinsteiger

    2010 spain, xavi+iniesta,puyol+pigue

    2022……VDD, pepe, modric, Henderson+Jude ……..

    which team has the best defense and def midfielders ???

    thoughts welcome??

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    In 2018 france - they have 2 best defensive midfielders at that time

    progba+Kante

    in 2014 germany, humnels+boating leading by elite midfielders schweinsteiger

    2010 spain, xavi+iniesta,puyol+pigue

    2022……VDD, pepe, modric, Henderson+Jude ……..

    which team has the best defense and def midfielders ???

    thoughts welcome??

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2022 - 6:32 PM ET #2

    Morocco has the best defense but they can’t score enough.  If Brazil plays up to their potential every game nobody beats them. 

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    Morocco has the best defense but they can’t score enough.  If Brazil plays up to their potential every game nobody beats them. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2022 - 7:39 PM ET #3

    @PublicJoe

     I actually think we cannot find the right answer after round of 16, I doubt all the contenders have been tested so far 

    But thanks for your input, agreed morocco defense is really good but lack of experience, don’t think they can go deep

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    @PublicJoe

     I actually think we cannot find the right answer after round of 16, I doubt all the contenders have been tested so far 

    But thanks for your input, agreed morocco defense is really good but lack of experience, don’t think they can go deep

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2022 - 8:45 PM ET #4

    Netherlands has the best defensive line. Best defender in the world Virgil in the center. A very athletic Manchester city prospect ake on back wing. And physical inter player dummfries on the other side.

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    Netherlands has the best defensive line. Best defender in the world Virgil in the center. A very athletic Manchester city prospect ake on back wing. And physical inter player dummfries on the other side.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2022 - 9:58 PM ET #5

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     I think so too, with the experience VDD brings (from CL n epl champions), I see possible upset against Argentina 

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     I think so too, with the experience VDD brings (from CL n epl champions), I see possible upset against Argentina 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2022 - 4:21 AM ET #6

    Marocco will probably miss Aguerd in the middle defense - he went out injured against Spain. That will be a big loss for them. He´s been outstanding.

    Defensively i don´t see Netherland as the strongest team at all. I think Van Dijk is far a way from the player he was last season. And i think Netherland has given up a lot of chances in the tournament. With just a little bit more concentration/luck USA could easily have scored 3 or even 4 against them. Although it might be an exiting game against Argentina, because the dutch offense have been extremely good - especially against the US - but they have created a lot of chances in all their matches. However    it´s gonna be more difficult against a quite solid Argentina defense. Looking forward to that match - it might go to ekstratime.

    So far Brazil have had the best defense - but they have also had the ball most of the time - so they haven´t really been tested that much. I see a quite easy win again against Croatia. After that anything can happen against either Netherland or Argentina. But Brazil is definately the one to beat.

     

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    Marocco will probably miss Aguerd in the middle defense - he went out injured against Spain. That will be a big loss for them. He´s been outstanding.

    Defensively i don´t see Netherland as the strongest team at all. I think Van Dijk is far a way from the player he was last season. And i think Netherland has given up a lot of chances in the tournament. With just a little bit more concentration/luck USA could easily have scored 3 or even 4 against them. Although it might be an exiting game against Argentina, because the dutch offense have been extremely good - especially against the US - but they have created a lot of chances in all their matches. However    it´s gonna be more difficult against a quite solid Argentina defense. Looking forward to that match - it might go to ekstratime.

    So far Brazil have had the best defense - but they have also had the ball most of the time - so they haven´t really been tested that much. I see a quite easy win again against Croatia. After that anything can happen against either Netherland or Argentina. But Brazil is definately the one to beat.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2022 - 6:32 AM ET #7

    You mean Paul POGBA

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    You mean Paul POGBA

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2022 - 8:07 AM ET #8

    @the1toturn2

     Yes

    @carnumber18

     Great input, and thanks

     well based on the fact that Netherlands only conceded two goals so far and against better opponents and Argentina conceded 3, 2 against true rubbish Saudi, and the other against semi rubbish aussie, VDD might not perform well with Liverpool this season but I still think he’s one of the best 

    for Argentina, their defense definitely not superb and with lot of question marks, otamendi is tough and physical , but slow, Romero still have some upside I believe but he’s not playing in a great defensive team(spurs), I actually rank them bottom half among remaining 8 teams

    and if you compare this arg team to 2014 squad, I think 2014 have the best combination of defenders and d midfielders

     

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     Yes

    @carnumber18

     Great input, and thanks

     well based on the fact that Netherlands only conceded two goals so far and against better opponents and Argentina conceded 3, 2 against true rubbish Saudi, and the other against semi rubbish aussie, VDD might not perform well with Liverpool this season but I still think he’s one of the best 

    for Argentina, their defense definitely not superb and with lot of question marks, otamendi is tough and physical , but slow, Romero still have some upside I believe but he’s not playing in a great defensive team(spurs), I actually rank them bottom half among remaining 8 teams

    and if you compare this arg team to 2014 squad, I think 2014 have the best combination of defenders and d midfielders

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2022 - 9:47 AM ET #9

    I would put England in the top 3. They move the ball around as well as any team and stop break through rushes. Although maybe not quite as good around the box.

    They have only given up 2 goals so far. Looking forward to their next game.

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    I would put England in the top 3. They move the ball around as well as any team and stop break through rushes. Although maybe not quite as good around the box.

    They have only given up 2 goals so far. Looking forward to their next game.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2022 - 10:30 AM ET #10

    @gotime

     Agreed 

    My rank 

    england #1

    brazil # 2

    netherland #3

     

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    @gotime

     Agreed 

    My rank 

    england #1

    brazil # 2

    netherland #3

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2022 - 11:38 PM ET #11

    @yorosan

     Who u liking for tomorrow games 

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    @yorosan

     Who u liking for tomorrow games 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2022 - 1:14 AM ET #12

    Maquire is a question mark when he plays for MU

    I don’t think England is # 1 defense 

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    Maquire is a question mark when he plays for MU

    I don’t think England is # 1 defense 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2022 - 2:42 AM ET #13

    @mlizzle604

     Will post them later

    @Seahawks14

     Then which team is the best d in your opinion??, I mean looking at the stats and from goalie to def midfield, they’re definitely one of the top, of course, we will know more after france game…..

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     Will post them later

    @Seahawks14

     Then which team is the best d in your opinion??, I mean looking at the stats and from goalie to def midfield, they’re definitely one of the top, of course, we will know more after france game…..

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2022 - 4:02 AM ET #14

    was trying to start a new post, but error ….so just post them here

    WC 1/8

    remember no more garbage teams entering this round, and in fact no crazy upsets last round, all teams deserved to be here, no African teams have ever reached semis, let’s see if morocco will make history this time 

    brazil/Croatia

    first glance, Croatia +1/1.5 is a gift, don’t wanna talk much about both teams squad, if fatigue not an issue, I doubt Croatia will lose more than a goal, they’re not Korea and Brazil won’t have much space to operate their sexy plays, will only consider 3 plays, under 2.5, FH draw or +1.5

    (will confirm plays later)

    netherlands/Argentina

    im a big fan of messi but orange +0/0.5 is the play here, orange haven’t lost to Argentina in past 5 and Netherlands style is the one that gonna have big trouble for Argentina, legit counter attack……but I think it’s gonna be a draw 0-0 or 1-1 in 90 mins , I’m just taking Netherlands +0/0.5 

    bet with care

    good luck everyone

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    was trying to start a new post, but error ….so just post them here

    WC 1/8

    remember no more garbage teams entering this round, and in fact no crazy upsets last round, all teams deserved to be here, no African teams have ever reached semis, let’s see if morocco will make history this time 

    brazil/Croatia

    first glance, Croatia +1/1.5 is a gift, don’t wanna talk much about both teams squad, if fatigue not an issue, I doubt Croatia will lose more than a goal, they’re not Korea and Brazil won’t have much space to operate their sexy plays, will only consider 3 plays, under 2.5, FH draw or +1.5

    (will confirm plays later)

    netherlands/Argentina

    im a big fan of messi but orange +0/0.5 is the play here, orange haven’t lost to Argentina in past 5 and Netherlands style is the one that gonna have big trouble for Argentina, legit counter attack……but I think it’s gonna be a draw 0-0 or 1-1 in 90 mins , I’m just taking Netherlands +0/0.5 

    bet with care

    good luck everyone

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2022 - 4:52 AM ET #15

    Final plays 

    croatia FH + 0.5

    croatia Full time +1/1.5

    Orange +0/0.5

    good luck everyone and have a nice weekend 

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    Final plays 

    croatia FH + 0.5

    croatia Full time +1/1.5

    Orange +0/0.5

    good luck everyone and have a nice weekend 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2022 - 5:47 AM ET #16

    If you go by the numbers and strength of opponents marocco has face far better top ranking teams in the world so far. so to say who has the best defense no doubt is marocco but, to said who has the best mix of both, no doubt is Brazil.  Netherlands was very lucky vs a weak Usa team, if that early goal is in by pulazik in the 11 minute all that defense for the dutch was gonna flip in seconds, if we go back to the ecuador game netherlands didnt look all that great aswell, ecuador miss lots of opportunities they had 15 shots on target vs 2 of the dutch. And ecuador team that argentina blasted for 3-0 match and tie when the argetines were already qualify, so my thinking is that that argentina is gonna look  for an early goal and had ball possession the rest of the game.  England looks very very disciplined aswell but there’s 56 years of history behind them, facing a experience and fast team like france dont help well     

    i like the croatia game under.  The pace is gonna be super slow and both teams tend to have the ball in control for counting minutes without real opportunities. 

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    If you go by the numbers and strength of opponents marocco has face far better top ranking teams in the world so far. so to say who has the best defense no doubt is marocco but, to said who has the best mix of both, no doubt is Brazil.  Netherlands was very lucky vs a weak Usa team, if that early goal is in by pulazik in the 11 minute all that defense for the dutch was gonna flip in seconds, if we go back to the ecuador game netherlands didnt look all that great aswell, ecuador miss lots of opportunities they had 15 shots on target vs 2 of the dutch. And ecuador team that argentina blasted for 3-0 match and tie when the argetines were already qualify, so my thinking is that that argentina is gonna look  for an early goal and had ball possession the rest of the game.  England looks very very disciplined aswell but there’s 56 years of history behind them, facing a experience and fast team like france dont help well     

    i like the croatia game under.  The pace is gonna be super slow and both teams tend to have the ball in control for counting minutes without real opportunities. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2022 - 5:49 AM ET #17

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     Nice read and thanks for sharing your thoughts 

    good luck !!

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     Nice read and thanks for sharing your thoughts 

    good luck !!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2022 - 6:05 AM ET #18

    I think we can only see how good brazil defense will be when they’re playing Portugal, personally I still have tons of questions with this brazil backline and d midfield, silva is 39, can he defend versatile forward …. 

    I still think england by contrast is more consistent with defense and they’re loaded with their bench, put it this way, one of the best young midfielders on the bench(Mason mount) and they can still perform at a high level, this team definitely in a good progress and direction moving forward, unfortunately they have to face france then orange/Argentina in semis ….(I’m not a big england fanbigsmile)

     

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    I think we can only see how good brazil defense will be when they’re playing Portugal, personally I still have tons of questions with this brazil backline and d midfield, silva is 39, can he defend versatile forward …. 

    I still think england by contrast is more consistent with defense and they’re loaded with their bench, put it this way, one of the best young midfielders on the bench(Mason mount) and they can still perform at a high level, this team definitely in a good progress and direction moving forward, unfortunately they have to face france then orange/Argentina in semis ….(I’m not a big england fanbigsmile)

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2022 - 11:10 AM ET #20

    Croatia +0.5 FH cool

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     Nice call bro. 

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     Beast bro. Goodluck

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    And Croatia +1/1.5 is another gift 

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    And we read that well. We hit the under half and under game.  Wht u think in extras.  Croatia has done nothing on offense

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