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LuckyLuke

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Posted: Jun. 1, 2012 - 11:10 PM ET #51

Vanzack- how come you are not going to Poland/Ukraine?

I remember we spoke about a year ago and you said you were in.

I am leaving US on the 15th to make Poland vs Czech Rep game.

than 3 Quarter Finals, 1 Semi Final in Poland and The Final in Ukraine.

I still have few extra tickets if you are interested. Planning to take them with me and sell them 1-2 days before each game.

P4P

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Posted: Jun. 1, 2012 - 11:55 PM ET #52

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Group bets, future bets etc:

· Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units

· England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units

· England not to win the group at -210. 2 units

· England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units

· Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units

· Russia to win group A +170. 3 units

· Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units. There will be a big ROI on ROI coming in last.

· Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

+1750 on Betfair...you have an account there, don't you?

Germany's not worth a futures play at +320 even though you like them to win?

jmitseff

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Posted: Jun. 3, 2012 - 2:41 AM ET #53

VegasGenius

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Posted: Jun. 3, 2012 - 4:29 AM ET #54

I have $250 on France to win group at +180
$250 on Germany even money to win group
$50 on France 10/1 to win Euro Cup

Germany/Portugal over 2.5
Greece +0.5 vs Poland
Spain -0.5 vs Italy
Russia -0.5

Those are my early leans

Vicente87

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Posted: Jun. 3, 2012 - 4:35 AM ET #55

I'm leaning to a parlay Russia-France-Spain to win their group

Group B too though to bet atmo

lordzud

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Posted: Jun. 3, 2012 - 9:46 AM ET #56

I greatly appreciate your write ups and picks VanZack. I only wish I had such a good capper in football or baseball to follow. For those of you like me, love a little sports gambling, love the intensity and athleticism of international soccer, but don't really know much about who to bet on, just follow this guy, he's been called a genius in capping soccer and that high praise isn't that far off. He just wins money.

is for guessers,

comes to those who know more than others.

tmurda666

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Posted: Jun. 3, 2012 - 11:27 AM ET #57

UKRAINE...

biglubes

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Posted: Jun. 3, 2012 - 12:02 PM ET #58

Hey Van.

You don't think Baros for Czech will turn it on? He has proven he can finish on the international level.

thegame909

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Posted: Jun. 3, 2012 - 4:26 PM ET #59

Hey Van,

How do you feel about Denmark U1.5 group stage points? I see that you like them to finish last in their group, and paid -167 for it, but what about the Under 1.5 points +145?

I really can't see them doing much more than maybe squeaking out a draw.

samuelsosa

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Posted: Jun. 3, 2012 - 6:29 PM ET #60

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Opening round game bets:

France vs England: Im going to post this one early without a writeup, because the line keeps moving…. France PK -120 (I started betting it back at +110 all the way to -110, but I think this is good all the way to -150) for 5 units. Big one off the bat. Most likely result France 3 England 1.

Vanzack....curious question

You see FRANCE winning 3-1.....why arent you playing the asian handicap FRANCE +150? Isnt there more value in that since you see the most likely result being a 2 goal victory?

Reason I also ask is because my book only offers the asian handicap lines. 70 cents not worth the risk?

GoalinCrazyUK

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Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 8:59 AM ET #61

Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

Vanzack....curious question

You see FRANCE winning 3-1.....why arent you playing the asian handicap FRANCE +150? Isnt there more value in that since you see the most likely result being a 2 goal victory?

Reason I also ask is because my book only offers the asian handicap lines. 70 cents not worth the risk?

I didn't see this post by Vanzack, and I don't understand it? Those look like ML lines, but this is a group game? There is no PK, when the draws stand? Just for example I am getting Fra win @ +150?

P4P

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Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #62

Quote Originally Posted by GoalinCrazyUK:

I didn't see this post by Vanzack, and I don't understand it? Those look like ML lines, but this is a group game? There is no PK, when the draws stand? Just for example I am getting Fra win @ +150?

A pk line means if the game ends in a draw both sides get their money back. Makes sense to play this if he's going large as it's much safer than calling an outright win even if that's his prediction. Doesn't hurt that he got an amazing price on the pk so it wouldn't even make sense to pick the win-only option.

DT44

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Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 2:25 PM ET #63

germany doesn't lose in poland

808Tunda

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Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 3:05 PM ET #64

I-Got-5-On-It

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Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 6:16 PM ET #65

Van
bet you've been looking forward to this tourney well since the World Cup

even though I have a sense of hope and optimism for Ireland I don't think they'll come dead last in the group
Trappa has made them tough to beat and they should pick up at least 3 or 4 points which may be enough to qualify depending on other results
I think a win against Croatia and maybe a draw and a loss against v Italy & Spain would be my best guess
Also all 3 (if not at least 2) of Irelands games to go under 2.5 looks solid

also like Russia to win their Group

have a good one

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jmw59

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Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 7:24 PM ET #66

looking forward to the olympics van?

Damon102

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Posted: Jun. 4, 2012 - 9:26 PM ET #67

thanks

good luck to you

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Metallica2467

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Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 12:42 AM ET #68

GL Vanzack

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BABYFACE024

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Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 1:37 AM ET #69

Quote Originally Posted by I-Got-5-On-It:

Ireland is going to get killed in that group. . i bet they dont get a pt. .they are they team to fade this tourny.

EazyFBaby

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Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 8:10 AM ET #70

Vanzack, I still haven't analyzed England's roster I just took a glance at the time of my post but it looks like they are nothing to fret about. Just got through the Czech/Russia squads and it looks as if the Czechs are going to be hard pressed for goals, relying on only Baros who looks to be past his prime. Russia looks to be the play there.

vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 11:28 AM ET #71

Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLuke:

Vanzack- how come you are not going to Poland/Ukraine?

I remember we spoke about a year ago and you said you were in.

I am leaving US on the 15th to make Poland vs Czech Rep game.

than 3 Quarter Finals, 1 Semi Final in Poland and The Final in Ukraine.

I still have few extra tickets if you are interested. Planning to take them with me and sell them 1-2 days before each game.

Sorry - just getting back to this thread...

Family issues preclude me from going. I was on the fence until about a month ago, but just cant swing it.

Have a lot of fun - wish I was going.

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 11:28 AM ET #72

Quote Originally Posted by P4P:

+1750 on Betfair...you have an account there, don't you?

Germany's not worth a futures play at +320 even though you like them to win?

Italy has gone up since their 3-0 loss to Russia, and now Balotelli is in doubt - looking like I might have made a bad wager.....

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 11:29 AM ET #73

Quote Originally Posted by lordzud:

I greatly appreciate your write ups and picks VanZack. I only wish I had such a good capper in football or baseball to follow. For those of you like me, love a little sports gambling, love the intensity and athleticism of international soccer, but don't really know much about who to bet on, just follow this guy, he's been called a genius in capping soccer and that high praise isn't that far off. He just wins money.

is for guessers,

comes to those who know more than others.

Thank you very much. Very nice.

Hopefully some luck will be with me in the next month.

Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.

vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 11:30 AM ET #74

Quote Originally Posted by biglubes:

Hey Van.

You don't think Baros for Czech will turn it on? He has proven he can finish on the international level.

In short, no. Why would I? its not 2004 anymore....

I think Czech sill struggle to score goals.

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vanzack

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Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 11:32 AM ET #75

Quote Originally Posted by thegame909:

Hey Van,

How do you feel about Denmark U1.5 group stage points? I see that you like them to finish last in their group, and paid -167 for it, but what about the Under 1.5 points +145?

I really can't see them doing much more than maybe squeaking out a draw.

I think this is a good bet. I dont even see them drawing. They arent the type of team to pack back and play for a 0-0, they will be exposed in their group games.

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