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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 3:43 PM ET #576

    you're a tad slow tadlodz do you bang hoes in bangkok that wear drag clothes and hang cock ?

    just asking

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    you're a tad slow tadlodz do you bang hoes in bangkok that wear drag clothes and hang cock ?

    just asking

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 3:44 PM ET #577

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    I was just trying to figure that out. Here is what I found. Can someone confirm if my understanding is correct.

    The tiebreakers first consider the relationship of the 3 teams that are tied, therefore, the results vs germany (assuming they beat denmark) won't factor in.

    All 3 will have 3 points, so points is even.

    Next, it goes to goal differential amongst the 3 teams.

    As of now, Holland is -1, Denmark is even, and Portugal is +1.

    Therefore, if Holland beats Portugal by 1, Portugal gets in. If Holland wins by 2 or more, Holland gets in, regardless of the result today.

    I am not considering other scenarios like Denmark winning or drawing. But can someone confirm I understand this correctly.

    Why does portugal get in if holland beat them 1-0 ... they would all be tied with even goal differential. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:

    I was just trying to figure that out. Here is what I found. Can someone confirm if my understanding is correct.

    The tiebreakers first consider the relationship of the 3 teams that are tied, therefore, the results vs germany (assuming they beat denmark) won't factor in.

    All 3 will have 3 points, so points is even.

    Next, it goes to goal differential amongst the 3 teams.

    As of now, Holland is -1, Denmark is even, and Portugal is +1.

    Therefore, if Holland beats Portugal by 1, Portugal gets in. If Holland wins by 2 or more, Holland gets in, regardless of the result today.

    I am not considering other scenarios like Denmark winning or drawing. But can someone confirm I understand this correctly.

    Why does portugal get in if holland beat them 1-0 ... they would all be tied with even goal differential. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 3:45 PM ET #578

    I just loaded up on Gomez to be top goal scorer @ 2.10...

    FK IT

     

     

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    I just loaded up on Gomez to be top goal scorer @ 2.10...

    FK IT

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 3:50 PM ET #579

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharukh10:


    Why does portugal get in if holland beat them 1-0 ... they would all be tied with even goal differential. 

    Because the next tiebreaker is total goals and Holland would have 1 total goal, while Portugal would have 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharukh10:


    Why does portugal get in if holland beat them 1-0 ... they would all be tied with even goal differential. 

    Because the next tiebreaker is total goals and Holland would have 1 total goal, while Portugal would have 3.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 3:51 PM ET #580

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    Because the next tiebreaker is total goals and Holland would have 1 total goal, while Portugal would have 3.

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    Because the next tiebreaker is total goals and Holland would have 1 total goal, while Portugal would have 3.

    thanks
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:13 PM ET #581

    Watching this game makes me think GER is going to be tough to beat for any team.
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    Watching this game makes me think GER is going to be tough to beat for any team.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:22 PM ET #582

    Quote Originally Posted by tadlodz:


    thank you
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    how the hell did you hijack this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tadlodz:


    thank you
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    how the hell did you hijack this thread?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:23 PM ET #583

    Easy he just keeps talking to himself
    buy $BTC
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    Easy he just keeps talking to himself
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:31 PM ET #584

    tadlodz definitely rode the short bus to school.
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    tadlodz definitely rode the short bus to school.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:37 PM ET #585

    Quote Originally Posted by tadlodz:

    aren't some of you would to play "hide something in my mouth" game"

    We can hear you talking, and you have marbles in your mouth.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tadlodz:

    aren't some of you would to play "hide something in my mouth" game"

    We can hear you talking, and you have marbles in your mouth.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:37 PM ET #586

    Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:

    I've managed to lose a small fortune - despite tailing every pick of yours.

    Going to do the stupidest thing possible and try to get it all back on the first game you're sitting out.

    +360 Germany/Germany
    +370 Germany by 1 goal exactly
    +1000 Germany to win 2-1


    WOW !!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:

    I've managed to lose a small fortune - despite tailing every pick of yours.

    Going to do the stupidest thing possible and try to get it all back on the first game you're sitting out.

    +360 Germany/Germany
    +370 Germany by 1 goal exactly
    +1000 Germany to win 2-1


    WOW !!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:39 PM ET #587


    Vanzack, did I get you right that you are playing the -.25 on Italy tomorrow?

    That is where the line is at the moment.

    Thanks as always for cracking shouts on the games!! 
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    Vanzack, did I get you right that you are playing the -.25 on Italy tomorrow?

    That is where the line is at the moment.

    Thanks as always for cracking shouts on the games!! 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:40 PM ET #588

    Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:

    I've managed to lose a small fortune - despite tailing every pick of yours.

    Going to do the stupidest thing possible and try to get it all back on the first game you're sitting out.

    +360 Germany/Germany
    +370 Germany by 1 goal exactly
    +1000 Germany to win 2-1

    I retire.  Meet the new KING.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:

    I've managed to lose a small fortune - despite tailing every pick of yours.

    Going to do the stupidest thing possible and try to get it all back on the first game you're sitting out.

    +360 Germany/Germany
    +370 Germany by 1 goal exactly
    +1000 Germany to win 2-1

    I retire.  Meet the new KING.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:40 PM ET #589

    Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:

    I've managed to lose a small fortune - despite tailing every pick of yours.

    Going to do the stupidest thing possible and try to get it all back on the first game you're sitting out.

    +360 Germany/Germany
    +370 Germany by 1 goal exactly
    +1000 Germany to win 2-1



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    Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:

    I've managed to lose a small fortune - despite tailing every pick of yours.

    Going to do the stupidest thing possible and try to get it all back on the first game you're sitting out.

    +360 Germany/Germany
    +370 Germany by 1 goal exactly
    +1000 Germany to win 2-1



     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:42 PM ET #590

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    How did you manage this?  Im 9-2?!?!?!?

    Impressive!



    This is how I do it.

    Both my 1 unit bets on +360 and +370 got matched.
    On betfair, I disliked the price and tried to get +1300 instead (change wager to 'Keep In-Play)... the highest it got was +1200...and then Gomez scored the first goal. Obviously I ended up with no action on 2-1.

    E.g. I ended up winning 6.5 units instead of 20. And this is just a couple days after I *knew* Ukraine-Sweden is going over 1.5 goals at HT and was 30 seconds late with the bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    How did you manage this?  Im 9-2?!?!?!?

    Impressive!



    This is how I do it.

    Both my 1 unit bets on +360 and +370 got matched.
    On betfair, I disliked the price and tried to get +1300 instead (change wager to 'Keep In-Play)... the highest it got was +1200...and then Gomez scored the first goal. Obviously I ended up with no action on 2-1.

    E.g. I ended up winning 6.5 units instead of 20. And this is just a couple days after I *knew* Ukraine-Sweden is going over 1.5 goals at HT and was 30 seconds late with the bet.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:44 PM ET #591

    Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:



    This is how I do it.

    Both my 1 unit bets on +360 and +370 got matched.
    On betfair, I disliked the price and tried to get +1300 instead (change wager to 'Keep In-Play)... the highest it got was +1200...and then Gomez scored the first goal. Obviously I ended up with no action on 2-1.

    E.g. I ended up winning 6.5 units instead of 20. And this is just a couple days after I *knew* Ukraine-Sweden is going over 1.5 goals at HT and was 30 seconds late with the bet.


    Some people would just take credit for all 3... fact that you admitted that you had no final action on "2-1" score... respect !!! and congrats on +6.5 units
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:



    This is how I do it.

    Both my 1 unit bets on +360 and +370 got matched.
    On betfair, I disliked the price and tried to get +1300 instead (change wager to 'Keep In-Play)... the highest it got was +1200...and then Gomez scored the first goal. Obviously I ended up with no action on 2-1.

    E.g. I ended up winning 6.5 units instead of 20. And this is just a couple days after I *knew* Ukraine-Sweden is going over 1.5 goals at HT and was 30 seconds late with the bet.


    Some people would just take credit for all 3... fact that you admitted that you had no final action on "2-1" score... respect !!! and congrats on +6.5 units
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 4:45 PM ET #592

    Results:
    9-2-1 WLP
    +12.02 units

    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN
    6. Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units - WIN
    7. Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units - WIN
    8. France PK -120 5 units - PUSH
    9. Swe/Ukr over 2 -126 3 units - WIN
    10. Russia +142 3 units - LOSS
    11. Czech PK and -.5 +108 1.5 units - WIN
    12. Portugal -.5 +102 for 2 units - WIN 

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units
    Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

    Upcoming:

    13. Italy / Croatia: Italy will feel good about themselves having the beast of the group under their belt – but knowing that the game against Croatia is a must win game. Italy played basically 3 in the back, with the outside backs moving up almost in to winger roles when play pushed forward. They were able to do this because of Spains lack of width (read below in Spain preview) – and because of their confidence in DeRossi to play “sweeper” and hold the back together. This is not the Italian way, but proved very effective against compact Spain.

     

    I question whether they will continue with this formation – but it seems from what I read that they will. Pirlo played quarterback to perfection – feeding the ball up through space to Cassano and Balotteli – and eventually sprung DiNatale for the Italian goal. For all of Balotellis ups and downs – the part of him I cant put up with is his lack of movement when Italy has the ball and he doesn’t. He doesn’t seem to want to move in to space, or take a few steps to make a passing lane open for a teammate. Some of his actions bordered on the laughable today – from the ridiculous slow motion one on one to the sublime skill he showed to keep a ball in bounds – you just don’t know what you will get. But the substitution sparked the Italians, and DiNatale might just be in there to stay.

     

    The giveaways from Italy give me pause. Time after time – they cheaply gave the ball to Spain – and that will eventually cost them unless they shore that up. Chalk it up to a first game – against the talent of Spain – and I get it, but if they think they can do that for long – they will be out of this tournament sooner rather than later.

    Croatia played well against Ireland – but I feel like they got the most out of it and Ireland got the worst of it. Modric was often pushed back in to a very defensive position – but when he got the ball he started the Croatia moves by almost always choosing the correct outlet to go to. He wasn’t directly involved in the offense very much – but he always set up the play at the start. Srna was the man of the match for me – totally neutralizing any Irish threat down the flank.

     

     

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    Results:
    9-2-1 WLP
    +12.02 units

    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN
    6. Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units - WIN
    7. Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units - WIN
    8. France PK -120 5 units - PUSH
    9. Swe/Ukr over 2 -126 3 units - WIN
    10. Russia +142 3 units - LOSS
    11. Czech PK and -.5 +108 1.5 units - WIN
    12. Portugal -.5 +102 for 2 units - WIN 

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units
    Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

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    13. Italy / Croatia: Italy will feel good about themselves having the beast of the group under their belt – but knowing that the game against Croatia is a must win game. Italy played basically 3 in the back, with the outside backs moving up almost in to winger roles when play pushed forward. They were able to do this because of Spains lack of width (read below in Spain preview) – and because of their confidence in DeRossi to play “sweeper” and hold the back together. This is not the Italian way, but proved very effective against compact Spain.

     

    I question whether they will continue with this formation – but it seems from what I read that they will. Pirlo played quarterback to perfection – feeding the ball up through space to Cassano and Balotteli – and eventually sprung DiNatale for the Italian goal. For all of Balotellis ups and downs – the part of him I cant put up with is his lack of movement when Italy has the ball and he doesn’t. He doesn’t seem to want to move in to space, or take a few steps to make a passing lane open for a teammate. Some of his actions bordered on the laughable today – from the ridiculous slow motion one on one to the sublime skill he showed to keep a ball in bounds – you just don’t know what you will get. But the substitution sparked the Italians, and DiNatale might just be in there to stay.

     

    The giveaways from Italy give me pause. Time after time – they cheaply gave the ball to Spain – and that will eventually cost them unless they shore that up. Chalk it up to a first game – against the talent of Spain – and I get it, but if they think they can do that for long – they will be out of this tournament sooner rather than later.

    Croatia played well against Ireland – but I feel like they got the most out of it and Ireland got the worst of it. Modric was often pushed back in to a very defensive position – but when he got the ball he started the Croatia moves by almost always choosing the correct outlet to go to. He wasn’t directly involved in the offense very much – but he always set up the play at the start. Srna was the man of the match for me – totally neutralizing any Irish threat down the flank.

     

     

     
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    I expect to see an open game – and there should be goals. I see Italy with the possession advantage, the talent advantage, and I think this is where Croatia will sit back and try to counter – and it wont work against a defense like Italy. Im on Italy Pk and -.5 -101 for 4 units. Most likely result Italy 3-1. I also like the over here – but will stick with just the Italy wager.

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    I expect to see an open game – and there should be goals. I see Italy with the possession advantage, the talent advantage, and I think this is where Croatia will sit back and try to counter – and it wont work against a defense like Italy. Im on Italy Pk and -.5 -101 for 4 units. Most likely result Italy 3-1. I also like the over here – but will stick with just the Italy wager.

     
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    14. Spain / Ireland: Spain has spent the last 4 years playing a style that has been very successful for not only winning trophies – but for the skills the Spanish players possess. But I think their tactics have been figured out – and a blueprint has been created for containing them.

     

    Spain and Barcelona are best when they use width and depth mixed in to the passing game. If you look at the Italy game – you see no width and no depth – basically a blob about 20 yards by 20 yards moving up the field with 5 or 6 Spanish players trying to move the blob up the field and pass the ball in the net. There is virtually no wing play to speak of, and there is virtually no separation between the midfield and the strikers (if there was actually a striker). This worked several years ago – but Italy (and Chelsea) showed that even when faced with the best players in the world, with the most potent passing attack in the world – a one dimentional offense that goes up the middle every time can be contained. Pack it in, pack it back, and defend in numbers.

     

    Once down a goal to Italy – Spain quickly countered – but it was the same type of move they tried all game – it just happened to spring through and work. Right afterwards – they brought in Navas for Silva – which was obviously a move to bring width. Right away – you could see the moves up the right flank with Navas – but the playmaker Silva was gone – and Navas had no target for anything in the middle because of the lack of striker. Hence – enter Torres – which was really the game changer for me.

     

    Once Torres was in – there was depth. And now the good chances came – which unfortunately for Torres – seemed to fall in the lap of a striker who just cant finish for some reason. But they had suddenly had the depth and the width they needed. It didn’t hurt that Italy kept giving the ball away – time after time after time – in fact on Torres best chance that he tried to chip and went over the bar – it was a free kick for Italy that was inexplicably given directly to a counterattacking Spanish side – and a pass or two later (using the space created by Torres depth) Torres was in on Buffon only to miss.

    I will say it as simply as I can – Spain needs space between the midfield and the forwards (if they play forwards at all) – and they need space to stretch the defense to cover wings. Without it – they are predictable – and can still overcome less talented sides – but will struggle against the best. The days of passing the ball in to the net might be over.

     

    I felt Ireland were a bit unlucky in their loss to Croatia. All 3 Croatian goals came from ugly defensive lapses – and while they did nothing to deserve a result – on a better day might have come away with a point. Ireland are one dimentional – they aren’t good enough to be anything else. They don’t have a playmaker – so they rely on two defensive minded banks to feed a lone striker or use set plays to get a quick strike. In fact, their lone goal came on a free kick header which was poorly played by the Croatian defense.

     

    But their own defense let them down. Ireland are never going to come back from being down a couple of goals, and very simply the defensive lapses were their undoing. But I said before the game that these are not top notch players – they are average at best. Stephen Ward – who assisted Croatia’s second goal with his swipe backpass – plays for Wolves, Dunne for Aston Villa, St Ledger for Leicester City, Keane for LA Galaxy and so on. You should get the picture. This is a side that only has one option – to defend and counter – and Im not sold that they are even good enough to pull that off.

     

     

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    14. Spain / Ireland: Spain has spent the last 4 years playing a style that has been very successful for not only winning trophies – but for the skills the Spanish players possess. But I think their tactics have been figured out – and a blueprint has been created for containing them.

     

    Spain and Barcelona are best when they use width and depth mixed in to the passing game. If you look at the Italy game – you see no width and no depth – basically a blob about 20 yards by 20 yards moving up the field with 5 or 6 Spanish players trying to move the blob up the field and pass the ball in the net. There is virtually no wing play to speak of, and there is virtually no separation between the midfield and the strikers (if there was actually a striker). This worked several years ago – but Italy (and Chelsea) showed that even when faced with the best players in the world, with the most potent passing attack in the world – a one dimentional offense that goes up the middle every time can be contained. Pack it in, pack it back, and defend in numbers.

     

    Once down a goal to Italy – Spain quickly countered – but it was the same type of move they tried all game – it just happened to spring through and work. Right afterwards – they brought in Navas for Silva – which was obviously a move to bring width. Right away – you could see the moves up the right flank with Navas – but the playmaker Silva was gone – and Navas had no target for anything in the middle because of the lack of striker. Hence – enter Torres – which was really the game changer for me.

     

    Once Torres was in – there was depth. And now the good chances came – which unfortunately for Torres – seemed to fall in the lap of a striker who just cant finish for some reason. But they had suddenly had the depth and the width they needed. It didn’t hurt that Italy kept giving the ball away – time after time after time – in fact on Torres best chance that he tried to chip and went over the bar – it was a free kick for Italy that was inexplicably given directly to a counterattacking Spanish side – and a pass or two later (using the space created by Torres depth) Torres was in on Buffon only to miss.

    I will say it as simply as I can – Spain needs space between the midfield and the forwards (if they play forwards at all) – and they need space to stretch the defense to cover wings. Without it – they are predictable – and can still overcome less talented sides – but will struggle against the best. The days of passing the ball in to the net might be over.

     

    I felt Ireland were a bit unlucky in their loss to Croatia. All 3 Croatian goals came from ugly defensive lapses – and while they did nothing to deserve a result – on a better day might have come away with a point. Ireland are one dimentional – they aren’t good enough to be anything else. They don’t have a playmaker – so they rely on two defensive minded banks to feed a lone striker or use set plays to get a quick strike. In fact, their lone goal came on a free kick header which was poorly played by the Croatian defense.

     

    But their own defense let them down. Ireland are never going to come back from being down a couple of goals, and very simply the defensive lapses were their undoing. But I said before the game that these are not top notch players – they are average at best. Stephen Ward – who assisted Croatia’s second goal with his swipe backpass – plays for Wolves, Dunne for Aston Villa, St Ledger for Leicester City, Keane for LA Galaxy and so on. You should get the picture. This is a side that only has one option – to defend and counter – and Im not sold that they are even good enough to pull that off.

     

     

     
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    You're right. He does'nt know what he's talking about...

     

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    So the big question for me is how the Del Bosque decides to set up the formation to play Ireland. If he comes out with the 6 midfielders again, I can see Ireland packing back Chelsea style and clogging up the middle. I think this plays right in to Irelands hands. I would much rather see him start Torres and Navas and a left wing minded player – and stretch them out.

     

    This is the big uglies vs the artists. I just cannot come up with a way that Ireland is able to stay with Spain for 90 minutes – especially given the fact that they really need a win and not a draw. Im willing to give the goal and a half here, because if the first one comes early enough in the game – Ireland will be forced out of their shape and then the avalanche might start. Spain -1.5 -110 for 2 units. Most likely result Spain 3-0.

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    So the big question for me is how the Del Bosque decides to set up the formation to play Ireland. If he comes out with the 6 midfielders again, I can see Ireland packing back Chelsea style and clogging up the middle. I think this plays right in to Irelands hands. I would much rather see him start Torres and Navas and a left wing minded player – and stretch them out.

     

    This is the big uglies vs the artists. I just cannot come up with a way that Ireland is able to stay with Spain for 90 minutes – especially given the fact that they really need a win and not a draw. Im willing to give the goal and a half here, because if the first one comes early enough in the game – Ireland will be forced out of their shape and then the avalanche might start. Spain -1.5 -110 for 2 units. Most likely result Spain 3-0.

     
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    Some people would just take credit for all 3... fact that you admitted that you had no final action on "2-1" score... respect !!! and congrats on +6.5 units


    I'm a huge lifetime loser precisely because I overbet 'recreational plays' even when I KNOW what to bet - thanks to selfless (bored? :) guys like vanzack.

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    Some people would just take credit for all 3... fact that you admitted that you had no final action on "2-1" score... respect !!! and congrats on +6.5 units


    I'm a huge lifetime loser precisely because I overbet 'recreational plays' even when I KNOW what to bet - thanks to selfless (bored? :) guys like vanzack.

    Knowing what the score will be is NOT enough to consistently turn a profit. Amazing, isn't it.
     
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    MODS?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I expect to see an open game – and there should be goals. I see Italy with the possession advantage, the talent advantage, and I think this is where Croatia will sit back and try to counter – and it wont work against a defense like Italy. Im on Italy Pk and -.5 -101 for 4 units. Most likely result Italy 3-1. I also like the over here – but will stick with just the Italy wager.



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    I expect to see an open game – and there should be goals. I see Italy with the possession advantage, the talent advantage, and I think this is where Croatia will sit back and try to counter – and it wont work against a defense like Italy. Im on Italy Pk and -.5 -101 for 4 units. Most likely result Italy 3-1. I also like the over here – but will stick with just the Italy wager.



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