This is what you need for a Pinnacle, betfair, MB, Neteller acct:
1. A foreign address in a gambling friendly country (almost any country besides USA and Iran) - with a utility bill. This can be done in a number of ways.
2. A bank account in that country.
3. A proxy (preferably dedicated VPN) in that same country. This is easy, can be had for about 30 bucks a month. Google private VPN. It is basically a way to get on the internet from anywhere, and still have your IP be static from one country.
Thats it.
OR
A credit account arrangement.
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This is what you need for a Pinnacle, betfair, MB, Neteller acct:
1. A foreign address in a gambling friendly country (almost any country besides USA and Iran) - with a utility bill. This can be done in a number of ways.
2. A bank account in that country.
3. A proxy (preferably dedicated VPN) in that same country. This is easy, can be had for about 30 bucks a month. Google private VPN. It is basically a way to get on the internet from anywhere, and still have your IP be static from one country.
Pinnacle is not a particpant in my arrangement. I have spoken here many times (even very recently) about what is needed to get a pinnacle, betfair, neteller, MB account. Anyone who wants to can do it, but there are considerations.
If you need me to repeat it here, I can , juts dont want to type it out if not necessary.
Hey Van,
I'd like to know how to get a Pinny account as well. Any help would be appreciated..thanks
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
No need to apologize, legit question....
Pinnacle is not a particpant in my arrangement. I have spoken here many times (even very recently) about what is needed to get a pinnacle, betfair, neteller, MB account. Anyone who wants to can do it, but there are considerations.
If you need me to repeat it here, I can , juts dont want to type it out if not necessary.
Hey Van,
I'd like to know how to get a Pinny account as well. Any help would be appreciated..thanks
This is what you need for a Pinnacle, betfair, MB, Neteller acct:
1. A foreign address in a gambling friendly country (almost any country besides USA and Iran) - with a utility bill. This can be done in a number of ways.
2. A bank account in that country.
3. A proxy (preferably dedicated VPN) in that same country. This is easy, can be had for about 30 bucks a month. Google private VPN. It is basically a way to get on the internet from anywhere, and still have your IP be static from one country.
Thats it.
OR
A credit account arrangement.
Much appreciated, this seems like a little more than I am willing to do as a recreational gambler. Seems like staying with 5dimes, Greek, and Betjm is the way to go.
Thanks again Van
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
This is what you need for a Pinnacle, betfair, MB, Neteller acct:
1. A foreign address in a gambling friendly country (almost any country besides USA and Iran) - with a utility bill. This can be done in a number of ways.
2. A bank account in that country.
3. A proxy (preferably dedicated VPN) in that same country. This is easy, can be had for about 30 bucks a month. Google private VPN. It is basically a way to get on the internet from anywhere, and still have your IP be static from one country.
Thats it.
OR
A credit account arrangement.
Much appreciated, this seems like a little more than I am willing to do as a recreational gambler. Seems like staying with 5dimes, Greek, and Betjm is the way to go.
I was asking because currently I can get +300 at a number of books. With 150k of 300k (betfair action) matched on Spain, I think I'm better off picking off that number soon. Clearly, it's going to drop to +250ish in a few months' time.
Or will it?
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I was asking because currently I can get +300 at a number of books. With 150k of 300k (betfair action) matched on Spain, I think I'm better off picking off that number soon. Clearly, it's going to drop to +250ish in a few months' time.
vanzack- I always enjoy reading your soccer posts. I get the strange feeling that this Chile- Peru match is going to be one of those wink- wink games where both teams will be very happy with a draw.
Thanks for posting the information on how to get back in at Pinnacle and other sportsbooks as well as companies to move money around. I've always wondered how to do this. I think Neteller would be the toughest place to get back into. They're very picky when you first open an account with them as they ask a lot of questions.
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vanzack- I always enjoy reading your soccer posts. I get the strange feeling that this Chile- Peru match is going to be one of those wink- wink games where both teams will be very happy with a draw.
Thanks for posting the information on how to get back in at Pinnacle and other sportsbooks as well as companies to move money around. I've always wondered how to do this. I think Neteller would be the toughest place to get back into. They're very picky when you first open an account with them as they ask a lot of questions.
Or the simpler version if u have a friend willing to deposit/withdraw for u + remote desktop / vnc to that friends box or VM. Not hard at all, really...
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Or the simpler version if u have a friend willing to deposit/withdraw for u + remote desktop / vnc to that friends box or VM. Not hard at all, really...
Or the simpler version if u have a friend willing to deposit/withdraw for u + remote desktop / vnc to that friends box or VM. Not hard at all, really...
just give the money to vanzack and let him bank for you for, say, 3% of the turnover
for extra 20% on profit you might even get him to add your money to his bets!
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Quote Originally Posted by ZonaCats:
Or the simpler version if u have a friend willing to deposit/withdraw for u + remote desktop / vnc to that friends box or VM. Not hard at all, really...
just give the money to vanzack and let him bank for you for, say, 3% of the turnover
for extra 20% on profit you might even get him to add your money to his bets!
Much appreciated, this seems like a little more than I am willing to do as a recreational gambler. Seems like staying with 5dimes, Greek, and Betjm is the way to go.
Thanks again Van
You definitely have to really need it, and be able to justify the costs.
It is a tall barrier to entry.
Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Tressel:
Much appreciated, this seems like a little more than I am willing to do as a recreational gambler. Seems like staying with 5dimes, Greek, and Betjm is the way to go.
Thanks again Van
You definitely have to really need it, and be able to justify the costs.
I was asking because currently I can get +300 at a number of books. With 150k of 300k (betfair action) matched on Spain, I think I'm better off picking off that number soon. Clearly, it's going to drop to +250ish in a few months' time.
Or will it?
here are my random thoughts on the subject....
I dont think it will go too much lower - just because I dont think it can go too much lower. you will have all of the homers (dont forget the second England qualify, their whole nation will start to talk about how they are the favorites and will win - and they all gamble) - when qualification ends and draw is over.
It is a 3 game knockout method after groups - and any team can get hot for 3 games (greece 2004).
Not saying you shouldnt bet it, jsut dont think it can go much lower. Reason so much action at BF is because it is almost like a "yes or no - will spain win" - when the other teams arent even in the tourney yet.
Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:
I was asking because currently I can get +300 at a number of books. With 150k of 300k (betfair action) matched on Spain, I think I'm better off picking off that number soon. Clearly, it's going to drop to +250ish in a few months' time.
Or will it?
here are my random thoughts on the subject....
I dont think it will go too much lower - just because I dont think it can go too much lower. you will have all of the homers (dont forget the second England qualify, their whole nation will start to talk about how they are the favorites and will win - and they all gamble) - when qualification ends and draw is over.
It is a 3 game knockout method after groups - and any team can get hot for 3 games (greece 2004).
Not saying you shouldnt bet it, jsut dont think it can go much lower. Reason so much action at BF is because it is almost like a "yes or no - will spain win" - when the other teams arent even in the tourney yet.
@mugsybogues (since u can't quote via mobile) - "sports investing funds" are starting to become very very popular. Similar or better return than other investment vehicles these days. I manage one. But it's nothing like actual gambling - automation that finds "arbitrage" opportunities. U just need to hit a handful a year...
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@mugsybogues (since u can't quote via mobile) - "sports investing funds" are starting to become very very popular. Similar or better return than other investment vehicles these days. I manage one. But it's nothing like actual gambling - automation that finds "arbitrage" opportunities. U just need to hit a handful a year...
I dont think it will go too much lower - just because I dont think it can go too much lower. you will have all of the homers (dont forget the second England qualify, their whole nation will start to talk about how they are the favorites and will win - and they all gamble) - when qualification ends and draw is over.
It is a 3 game knockout method after groups - and any team can get hot for 3 games (greece 2004).
Not saying you shouldnt bet it, jsut dont think it can go much lower. Reason so much action at BF is because it is almost like a "yes or no - will spain win" - when the other teams arent even in the tourney yet.
Ah, the same nation that expects Andy Murray to win every Grand Slam he enters.
The same nation that bet up an average boxer to make one of the easier boxing wins of the decade only -140. Just the other week.
Fine. I'll wait until Phoenix Mercury win this basketball season, and then reinvest up to 50% of that money on Spain.
P.S. Go England!
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
here are my random thoughts on the subject....
I dont think it will go too much lower - just because I dont think it can go too much lower. you will have all of the homers (dont forget the second England qualify, their whole nation will start to talk about how they are the favorites and will win - and they all gamble) - when qualification ends and draw is over.
It is a 3 game knockout method after groups - and any team can get hot for 3 games (greece 2004).
Not saying you shouldnt bet it, jsut dont think it can go much lower. Reason so much action at BF is because it is almost like a "yes or no - will spain win" - when the other teams arent even in the tourney yet.
Ah, the same nation that expects Andy Murray to win every Grand Slam he enters.
The same nation that bet up an average boxer to make one of the easier boxing wins of the decade only -140. Just the other week.
Fine. I'll wait until Phoenix Mercury win this basketball season, and then reinvest up to 50% of that money on Spain.
@mugsybogues (since u can't quote via mobile) - "sports investing funds" are starting to become very very popular. Similar or better return than other investment vehicles these days. I manage one. But it's nothing like actual gambling - automation that finds "arbitrage" opportunities. U just need to hit a handful a year...
Come on ZonaCats, share a freebie.
What's your Fund's stance on Euro2012?
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Quote Originally Posted by ZonaCats:
@mugsybogues (since u can't quote via mobile) - "sports investing funds" are starting to become very very popular. Similar or better return than other investment vehicles these days. I manage one. But it's nothing like actual gambling - automation that finds "arbitrage" opportunities. U just need to hit a handful a year...
I'm probably going to jump on Uruguay if the line drops more; who cares if about Argentina....they can't risk fixing a draw when a Mexico win eliminates them.
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I'm probably going to jump on Uruguay if the line drops more; who cares if about Argentina....they can't risk fixing a draw when a Mexico win eliminates them.
They need to draw or win to go throuhg, and mexico needs to win.
Same as before. The only thing that changed is that they cant win the group, but that isnt too big of a deal IMO.
Somewhat playing devil's advocate here, but it could be a big deal since winning the group would have given them B2, and now beating Mexico guarantees them Argentina.
Thoughts?
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
I dont see why it would.
They need to draw or win to go throuhg, and mexico needs to win.
Same as before. The only thing that changed is that they cant win the group, but that isnt too big of a deal IMO.
Somewhat playing devil's advocate here, but it could be a big deal since winning the group would have given them B2, and now beating Mexico guarantees them Argentina.
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