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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 9:45 AM ET #1

    Didnt a bookmaker halfway through the season pay out on the dragons winning the minor premiership?


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    Didnt a bookmaker halfway through the season pay out on the dragons winning the minor premiership?


     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 6:14 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 8:00 PM ET #3

    I bet they are feeling really good right now.

     

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    I bet they are feeling really good right now.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 8:06 PM ET #4

    Yea they look very silly now. Sanits could keep it up for ever. get them down the stretch of a game and they just dont come up clutch at all.

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    Yea they look very silly now. Sanits could keep it up for ever. get them down the stretch of a game and they just dont come up clutch at all.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 8:27 PM ET #5

    I reckon this team is mentally faitigued. The world club challenge trip, origin, playing at a very high level for a long time, they are only human.

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    I reckon this team is mentally faitigued. The world club challenge trip, origin, playing at a very high level for a long time, they are only human.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 8:48 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    I reckon this team is mentally faitigued. The world club challenge trip, origin, playing at a very high level for a long time, they are only human.





    Right now who do you pick as the winner this season?
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    I reckon this team is mentally faitigued. The world club challenge trip, origin, playing at a very high level for a long time, they are only human.





    Right now who do you pick as the winner this season?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 9:48 PM ET #7

    Hard to fault the Tigers, especially as they beat two of the better sides in Manly and St George in the last two weeks. They are building plenty of momentum leading up to the semi finals
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    Hard to fault the Tigers, especially as they beat two of the better sides in Manly and St George in the last two weeks. They are building plenty of momentum leading up to the semi finals
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 10:58 PM ET #8

    IF the Storm big 3 stay fit, they will play the Tigers in the GF.

    Manly's halves are too immature and will start to crack towards the end of the year.

    Dragons are mentally gone,.

    I have a sneaky suspicion that the Cows are gonna go on a losing streak when Thurston comes back - ALL MENTAL.

    Warriors every year loom as a threat. I just dont think maloney will handle the finals well.

    The only ones who can challenge Tigs and Storm are the Broncos.

    Everyon else is wasting there time.

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    IF the Storm big 3 stay fit, they will play the Tigers in the GF.

    Manly's halves are too immature and will start to crack towards the end of the year.

    Dragons are mentally gone,.

    I have a sneaky suspicion that the Cows are gonna go on a losing streak when Thurston comes back - ALL MENTAL.

    Warriors every year loom as a threat. I just dont think maloney will handle the finals well.

    The only ones who can challenge Tigs and Storm are the Broncos.

    Everyon else is wasting there time.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 11:30 PM ET #9

    sportsbet paid out for Richmond to win the spoon in the AFL last season after 7 rounds but the Eagles ended up winning it
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    sportsbet paid out for Richmond to win the spoon in the AFL last season after 7 rounds but the Eagles ended up winning it
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2011 - 11:30 PM ET #10

    Agree Broncos will go deep in the finals and think they finish 2nd or 3rd in the comp as well. There young guys are playing so well atm and they have the old heads scattered through the team.

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    Agree Broncos will go deep in the finals and think they finish 2nd or 3rd in the comp as well. There young guys are playing so well atm and they have the old heads scattered through the team.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 12:55 AM ET #11

    y would bookies payout early like that? how does that benefit them then waiting out the season
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    y would bookies payout early like that? how does that benefit them then waiting out the season
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 12:57 AM ET #12

    Might start using sportsbet haha..

    I wonder if any book paid out on NE Patriots having a perfect season also.

    Paddy Power's payout of Tiger has been the most expensive.
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    Might start using sportsbet haha..

    I wonder if any book paid out on NE Patriots having a perfect season also.

    Paddy Power's payout of Tiger has been the most expensive.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 12:58 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by diop:

    y would bookies payout early like that? how does that benefit them then waiting out the season


    Just for publicity and attract the mug bettors to join up with them
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    y would bookies payout early like that? how does that benefit them then waiting out the season


    Just for publicity and attract the mug bettors to join up with them
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 3:22 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:



    Just for publicity and attract the mug bettors to join up with them

    I doubt sporsbet could have got better publicity for the $50k it cost them

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:



    Just for publicity and attract the mug bettors to join up with them

    I doubt sporsbet could have got better publicity for the $50k it cost them

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 3:24 AM ET #15

    ye i dont understand what publicity they gain from paying out early and losing.. thats just the weirdest thing ive heard, i honestly really wonder what financial motive was behind it?
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    ye i dont understand what publicity they gain from paying out early and losing.. thats just the weirdest thing ive heard, i honestly really wonder what financial motive was behind it?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 5:19 AM ET #16

    It attracts punters, and gets people talking.. Like us

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    It attracts punters, and gets people talking.. Like us

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 5:46 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by diop:

    ye i dont understand what publicity they gain from paying out early and losing.. thats just the weirdest thing ive heard, i honestly really wonder what financial motive was behind it?

    You're posting in a thread on a gambling message board about it

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    ye i dont understand what publicity they gain from paying out early and losing.. thats just the weirdest thing ive heard, i honestly really wonder what financial motive was behind it?

    You're posting in a thread on a gambling message board about it

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 5:49 AM ET #18

    Anyone read in the paper yesterday how the odds in NRL games are significantly closer than AFL?

    Just confirms how league has become more about luck than good skill.

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    Anyone read in the paper yesterday how the odds in NRL games are significantly closer than AFL?

    Just confirms how league has become more about luck than good skill.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 7:32 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Anyone read in the paper yesterday how the odds in NRL games are significantly closer than AFL?

    Just confirms how league has become more about luck than good skill.



    huh?

    Link me to that story. What is that all about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Anyone read in the paper yesterday how the odds in NRL games are significantly closer than AFL?

    Just confirms how league has become more about luck than good skill.



    huh?

    Link me to that story. What is that all about
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 7:49 AM ET #20

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/why-afl-is-a-turn-off-for-punters/story-e6frexnr-1226108577415

     

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    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/why-afl-is-a-turn-off-for-punters/story-e6frexnr-1226108577415

     

     
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    I misread what you had initially posted. AFL is a farce when it comes to wanting to watch an actual contest
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    I misread what you had initially posted. AFL is a farce when it comes to wanting to watch an actual contest
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2011 - 6:02 PM ET #22

    NRL is the closest comp in the world, that is why the odds reflect this.

    AFL is a joke, where one team can win by almost 200 pts
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    NRL is the closest comp in the world, that is why the odds reflect this.

    AFL is a joke, where one team can win by almost 200 pts
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2011 - 11:19 PM ET #23

    Today sportsbet paid out on Judd to win the Brownlow medal
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2011 - 1:07 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderandOver:

    NRL is the closest comp in the world, that is why the odds reflect this.

    AFL is a joke, where one team can win by almost 200 pts

    The odds are closer together in NRL than AFL for a few reasons.

    Obviously 1 is the salary cap and the more even distribution of talent.

    But also due to the amount of luck involved in a game of NRL. More so in the modern era. The amount of tries scored from kicks, lucky kicks is testamony to this.

    The "scoring exchange rate" in league is no where near as high as it is in AFL. So, if an umpire makes an error resulting in a free kick in AFL results in a goal, it really isnt that much of a big deal., If a player drops the ball in AFL resulting in goal to the opposition, it really isnt much of a big deal as the "scoring exchange rate is high". Almost like basketball. If Kobe makes 1,2,3,4 or even 5 errors, it really isnt that much of a big deal. Errors are something you cannot account for or cap. If someone makes an error in AFL or basketball etc etc, it generally doesnt burn you.

    League is different. In an era of low scoring and points hard to come by, an error could be the difference between winning and losing. Just 1 error. Remember last friday week. Farra throws a blatant forward pass missed by the umpire and that is the difference between winning and losing your bet. It is a big deal because the exchange rate in league is low. If an umpire in AFL misses something which results in a goal, it is no biggy.

    Lets look at an extreme example which is baseball. That game has enormous amount of luck. Both pitchers could be pitching a gem, but if a short stop gets a bad bounce, then the difference between winning and losing could come to that bad bounce as the exchange rate is generally lower in baseball.

    The fact that baseball has no salary cap, yet teams dont get  back to backs, three peats and dynasties is testimony to the amount of luck involved. Not 100% by any means, but alot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderandOver:

    NRL is the closest comp in the world, that is why the odds reflect this.

    AFL is a joke, where one team can win by almost 200 pts

    The odds are closer together in NRL than AFL for a few reasons.

    Obviously 1 is the salary cap and the more even distribution of talent.

    But also due to the amount of luck involved in a game of NRL. More so in the modern era. The amount of tries scored from kicks, lucky kicks is testamony to this.

    The "scoring exchange rate" in league is no where near as high as it is in AFL. So, if an umpire makes an error resulting in a free kick in AFL results in a goal, it really isnt that much of a big deal., If a player drops the ball in AFL resulting in goal to the opposition, it really isnt much of a big deal as the "scoring exchange rate is high". Almost like basketball. If Kobe makes 1,2,3,4 or even 5 errors, it really isnt that much of a big deal. Errors are something you cannot account for or cap. If someone makes an error in AFL or basketball etc etc, it generally doesnt burn you.

    League is different. In an era of low scoring and points hard to come by, an error could be the difference between winning and losing. Just 1 error. Remember last friday week. Farra throws a blatant forward pass missed by the umpire and that is the difference between winning and losing your bet. It is a big deal because the exchange rate in league is low. If an umpire in AFL misses something which results in a goal, it is no biggy.

    Lets look at an extreme example which is baseball. That game has enormous amount of luck. Both pitchers could be pitching a gem, but if a short stop gets a bad bounce, then the difference between winning and losing could come to that bad bounce as the exchange rate is generally lower in baseball.

    The fact that baseball has no salary cap, yet teams dont get  back to backs, three peats and dynasties is testimony to the amount of luck involved. Not 100% by any means, but alot..

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