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    snake2710
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 4:52 PM ET #1

    Super 15 YTD 33-35-0 -33.25 units

    Have been having a really hard time of it lately in the rugby but all is ok im one really good weekend away from being back on form again.

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    Hurricanes -2.5 5 units @ $1.90

    Well stormers are just not them selves this year and now they travel to NZ were SA teams tend to struggle. The Canes have been playing a lot better in recent times and really i think they get the win by a converted try or more tonight. 

    Hurricanes/Stormers Over 47.5 5 units @ $1.90

    Seems like the logical play to me. The Stormers have not been as good on D as they have been in past years and the canes can score points at a fast rate. The weather is meant to be perfect for this game and i think this total is set a little low really.

    Blues +6.5 5 units @ $1.90

    This is just a long shot at the Blues for this game. They have been one of the more stand out teams this year and i believe they may have the goods to stick with the reds tonight.

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    Super 15 YTD 33-35-0 -33.25 units

    Have been having a really hard time of it lately in the rugby but all is ok im one really good weekend away from being back on form again.

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    Hurricanes -2.5 5 units @ $1.90

    Well stormers are just not them selves this year and now they travel to NZ were SA teams tend to struggle. The Canes have been playing a lot better in recent times and really i think they get the win by a converted try or more tonight. 

    Hurricanes/Stormers Over 47.5 5 units @ $1.90

    Seems like the logical play to me. The Stormers have not been as good on D as they have been in past years and the canes can score points at a fast rate. The weather is meant to be perfect for this game and i think this total is set a little low really.

    Blues +6.5 5 units @ $1.90

    This is just a long shot at the Blues for this game. They have been one of the more stand out teams this year and i believe they may have the goods to stick with the reds tonight.

    BOL
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 5:48 PM ET #2

    Good luck snake...they are tipping a high scoring Red/Blue game
    on a couple of sites....what do you think....
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    Good luck snake...they are tipping a high scoring Red/Blue game
    on a couple of sites....what do you think....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 6:13 PM ET #3

    Yea i could see a few points being scored there and have been looking at the over in that game. 

    Think from memory the total is set at 44 which is low. Could be worth a small play as im not entirely sold on the over
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    Yea i could see a few points being scored there and have been looking at the over in that game. 

    Think from memory the total is set at 44 which is low. Could be worth a small play as im not entirely sold on the over
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 6:41 PM ET #4

    Careful on the Canes, Snake. Word out of camp is the Stormers are focused and energized getting a bunch of faces back.  Short line too for a cross-continent home favorite, too.

    I reckon Stormers ML is the play here, but not playing it, so GL!
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    Careful on the Canes, Snake. Word out of camp is the Stormers are focused and energized getting a bunch of faces back.  Short line too for a cross-continent home favorite, too.

    I reckon Stormers ML is the play here, but not playing it, so GL!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 7:11 PM ET #5

    Yea can say that but they have to travel against time which is super hard.
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    Yea can say that but they have to travel against time which is super hard.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 8:43 PM ET #6

    Stormer's have a good defensive unit...they are 3rd lowest
    in giving up points...I think I would lean to the under.


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    Stormer's have a good defensive unit...they are 3rd lowest
    in giving up points...I think I would lean to the under.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 8:56 PM ET #7

    Hurricanes -2.5 5 units @ $1.90 

    Hurricanes/Stormers Over 47.5 5 units @ $1.90 

    Blues +6.5 5 units @ $1.90 

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    Hurricanes -2.5 5 units @ $1.90 

    Hurricanes/Stormers Over 47.5 5 units @ $1.90 

    Blues +6.5 5 units @ $1.90 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 9:11 PM ET #8

    Well all im going to say is the Stormers are not what they have been in the past and there is a big difference between playing SA teams in SA and then coming to NZ and playing against an attacking team. 

    Look at how many they gave up to the Chiefs?

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    Well all im going to say is the Stormers are not what they have been in the past and there is a big difference between playing SA teams in SA and then coming to NZ and playing against an attacking team. 

    Look at how many they gave up to the Chiefs?

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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 9:30 PM ET #9

    Good point....thanks for the info...
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    Good point....thanks for the info...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 9:34 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by snake2710:

    Yea can say that but they have to travel against time which is super hard.

    Well, considering Bill and Ted did it, the Stormers should be OK too.    Plus, they had a bye week to get there and acclimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake2710:

    Yea can say that but they have to travel against time which is super hard.

    Well, considering Bill and Ted did it, the Stormers should be OK too.    Plus, they had a bye week to get there and acclimate.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 10:05 PM ET #11

    i guess but just from my point of view i have canes with the higher wining percentage so thats my play
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    i guess but just from my point of view i have canes with the higher wining percentage so thats my play
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 10:57 PM ET #12

    Canes garbage forwards gonna get smacked tonight
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 11:01 PM ET #13

    • Despite their troubles, the Stormers' defence is still one of the best competition, with only the Sharks and Blues conceding less points and conceding a league low of just 9 tries.
    • The 'Canes defence is pretty leaky with only 3 sides conceding more tries.
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    • Despite their troubles, the Stormers' defence is still one of the best competition, with only the Sharks and Blues conceding less points and conceding a league low of just 9 tries.
    • The 'Canes defence is pretty leaky with only 3 sides conceding more tries.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davopnz:

    • Despite their troubles, the Stormers' defence is still one of the best competition, with only the Sharks and Blues conceding less points and conceding a league low of just 9 tries.
    • The 'Canes defence is pretty leaky with only 3 sides conceding more tries.

    Last week i was slammed by you people for picking the under in the canes/force game stating my opinion and what happened, turned out to be a winner, and an easy winner at that!

    Im not saying that this game goes over today but if you think you have the magic then post in your own thread instead of coming in here and having a go at me. 

    Whats your record??? oh thats right you dont post which would suggest you have no clue. If you base all your plays on just facts then you have no chance, you have to be able to read teams and what they are going to play like in certain situations.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davopnz:

    • Despite their troubles, the Stormers' defence is still one of the best competition, with only the Sharks and Blues conceding less points and conceding a league low of just 9 tries.
    • The 'Canes defence is pretty leaky with only 3 sides conceding more tries.

    Last week i was slammed by you people for picking the under in the canes/force game stating my opinion and what happened, turned out to be a winner, and an easy winner at that!

    Im not saying that this game goes over today but if you think you have the magic then post in your own thread instead of coming in here and having a go at me. 

    Whats your record??? oh thats right you dont post which would suggest you have no clue. If you base all your plays on just facts then you have no chance, you have to be able to read teams and what they are going to play like in certain situations.

     
     
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    Are you delusional? Where am I slamming you? All I was doing was sharing some stats.

    Can you read? "The 'Canes defence is pretty leaky with only 3 sides conceding more tries" how is that suggesting I like the under?

    I don't post my plays because I generally don't get round to doing so, but to be saying I have no clue when you're sitting here -33.25 units is pretty rich.

    Way to make something personal out of nothing. What is the point of these forums where if you share relevant stats you tickle someones box?
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    Are you delusional? Where am I slamming you? All I was doing was sharing some stats.

    Can you read? "The 'Canes defence is pretty leaky with only 3 sides conceding more tries" how is that suggesting I like the under?

    I don't post my plays because I generally don't get round to doing so, but to be saying I have no clue when you're sitting here -33.25 units is pretty rich.

    Way to make something personal out of nothing. What is the point of these forums where if you share relevant stats you tickle someones box?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davopnz:

    Are you delusional? Where am I slamming you? All I was doing was sharing some stats.

    Can you read? "The 'Canes defence is pretty leaky with only 3 sides conceding more tries" how is that suggesting I like the under?

    I don't post my plays because I generally don't get round to doing so, but to be saying I have no clue when you're sitting here -33.25 units is pretty rich.

    Way to make something personal out of nothing. What is the point of these forums where if you share relevant stats you tickle someones box?

    Yes im minus a lot but that is because changed the way i make plays so as not to risk as much, im a 5-1 weekend away from being almost back in the Black.

    I dont understand your stats then at all, your saying my logic is wrong but then you say it is right
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    Quote Originally Posted by davopnz:

    Are you delusional? Where am I slamming you? All I was doing was sharing some stats.

    Can you read? "The 'Canes defence is pretty leaky with only 3 sides conceding more tries" how is that suggesting I like the under?

    I don't post my plays because I generally don't get round to doing so, but to be saying I have no clue when you're sitting here -33.25 units is pretty rich.

    Way to make something personal out of nothing. What is the point of these forums where if you share relevant stats you tickle someones box?

    Yes im minus a lot but that is because changed the way i make plays so as not to risk as much, im a 5-1 weekend away from being almost back in the Black.

    I dont understand your stats then at all, your saying my logic is wrong but then you say it is right
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 11:30 PM ET #17

    Where did I say anything about your logic? All i did was state my opinion on the game, and shared some relevant stats about both teams defenses.


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    Where did I say anything about your logic? All i did was state my opinion on the game, and shared some relevant stats about both teams defenses.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 11:40 PM ET #18

    OK thanks for the advice
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    OK thanks for the advice
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 12:30 AM ET #19

    Have been thinking about both these games all day and decided that was time for another parlay in the rugby,

    Pick:

    Hurricanes SU & Reds SU 4 units @ $2.50

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    Have been thinking about both these games all day and decided that was time for another parlay in the rugby,

    Pick:

    Hurricanes SU & Reds SU 4 units @ $2.50

    BOL
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 1:49 AM ET #20

    snake looking at past matches though, stormers generally play pretty well in au/nz so I don't see travel as being a key factor in this matchup.
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    snake looking at past matches though, stormers generally play pretty well in au/nz so I don't see travel as being a key factor in this matchup.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 1:52 AM ET #21

    Hurricanes is my team but i don't know if i could back them here, without savea
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    Hurricanes is my team but i don't know if i could back them here, without savea
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 2:44 AM ET #22

    My .02

    Hurricanes suck with Barret at fullback. Now they don't have Savea either. IMO they're a fraud team: every win they they have had (bar 1, the miracle win over the Saders which required a late intercept try as well as Dan Carter missing the winning FG attempt from in front of the posts with time up) has been vs a side with a negative points differential, every loss they have had has been vs a side with a positive points differential. The Stormers have a positive pts diff.  None of that says the Canes can't win, but they're not worth my time or money. I'd rather deal with live betting, getting to see what each team is offering after 20 mins

    As for the total, when did a full round of S15 rugby ever go all Under like it did last weekend? Watch the Overs return this weekend, esp. in matches expected to go Under (ie. Blues/Reds).

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    My .02

    Hurricanes suck with Barret at fullback. Now they don't have Savea either. IMO they're a fraud team: every win they they have had (bar 1, the miracle win over the Saders which required a late intercept try as well as Dan Carter missing the winning FG attempt from in front of the posts with time up) has been vs a side with a negative points differential, every loss they have had has been vs a side with a positive points differential. The Stormers have a positive pts diff.  None of that says the Canes can't win, but they're not worth my time or money. I'd rather deal with live betting, getting to see what each team is offering after 20 mins

    As for the total, when did a full round of S15 rugby ever go all Under like it did last weekend? Watch the Overs return this weekend, esp. in matches expected to go Under (ie. Blues/Reds).

     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 2:53 AM ET #23

    ^ my exact feelings on the canes.

    who expects blues/reds to go under though? that has points written all over it!
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    ^ my exact feelings on the canes.

    who expects blues/reds to go under though? that has points written all over it!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 3:29 AM ET #24

    Like the Stormers in this game. It's basically their last chance to save their season. With the Canes you never know what you get, when you bet the Stormers atleast you know that they play some decent defence.

    The Stormers are also 6-2 in Australasia the last 2 seasons.

    Would also lean to the under.
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    Like the Stormers in this game. It's basically their last chance to save their season. With the Canes you never know what you get, when you bet the Stormers atleast you know that they play some decent defence.

    The Stormers are also 6-2 in Australasia the last 2 seasons.

    Would also lean to the under.
     
     
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    davopnz -  the Reds concede 19.7 pts/game, 3rd best defense in this season's S15, while the Blues concede 20.0 pts/game, 4th best defense. Last week the Reds 3rd best D faced the Brumbies 2nd best D = game went Under easy (only a late try made it seem close to going Over). When 2 top 4 defenses are playing each other, I wouldn't consider any Over bet to be *easy to make*.
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    davopnz -  the Reds concede 19.7 pts/game, 3rd best defense in this season's S15, while the Blues concede 20.0 pts/game, 4th best defense. Last week the Reds 3rd best D faced the Brumbies 2nd best D = game went Under easy (only a late try made it seem close to going Over). When 2 top 4 defenses are playing each other, I wouldn't consider any Over bet to be *easy to make*.
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