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    Final Bledisloe for season

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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2014 - 7:00 PM ET #1

    Wallabies in disarray and AB's are about as sympathetic as a killer whale spotting a sick seal.

    No need for detailed write-up on this one. Coming off a loss the All Blacks will win and win well.

    I'm grabbing the -7.5 @ $1.90 while it's on offer.

    Good punting all

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    Wallabies in disarray and AB's are about as sympathetic as a killer whale spotting a sick seal.

    No need for detailed write-up on this one. Coming off a loss the All Blacks will win and win well.

    I'm grabbing the -7.5 @ $1.90 while it's on offer.

    Good punting all

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2014 - 4:02 AM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by hugobaws:

    Willing to bet players will galvanise from this, Hooper already sticking behind his men. Wallabies do not go down easily at Suncorp, Ben Smith being rested for AB's also. Fancy the Wallabies big time here 

    Thanks for expressing your opinion and GL to you, but I can't see it.

    Yes players seem to have banded behind KB which means they are diametrically opposite their coach. I can't see how that helps the cause one iota. Sure Ben Smith is out but they have a dozen class wingers to choose from but I suspect Corey Jane will get the nod. Not a bad replacement.

    If you are determined to back Oz, and I've no intention of trying to sway you from that, let me suggest you wait closer to match time as I will be very surprised if AB's don't shorten.

    Good punting to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugobaws:

    Willing to bet players will galvanise from this, Hooper already sticking behind his men. Wallabies do not go down easily at Suncorp, Ben Smith being rested for AB's also. Fancy the Wallabies big time here 

    Thanks for expressing your opinion and GL to you, but I can't see it.

    Yes players seem to have banded behind KB which means they are diametrically opposite their coach. I can't see how that helps the cause one iota. Sure Ben Smith is out but they have a dozen class wingers to choose from but I suspect Corey Jane will get the nod. Not a bad replacement.

    If you are determined to back Oz, and I've no intention of trying to sway you from that, let me suggest you wait closer to match time as I will be very surprised if AB's don't shorten.

    Good punting to you.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 4:45 AM ET #3

    The Wallabies tend to do well in the third test (I think they've always covered it from memory), but All Blacks coming off a loss is always a good spot.
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    The Wallabies tend to do well in the third test (I think they've always covered it from memory), but All Blacks coming off a loss is always a good spot.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 6:10 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Shazzadude:

    The Wallabies tend to do well in the third test (I think they've always covered it from memory), but All Blacks coming off a loss is always a good spot.

    Aussie 3rd Bledisloe efforts have traditionally been ok as have their performances at Suncorp.

    Against this however is the fact that if the Wallabies 15 were available to play for New Zealand, the AB's run on side would probably not change. Folau and Hooper would be considered and maybe get some playing time but who else?

    AB's are simply a much better side than us at the moment and will not lose 2 on the trot . Throw in the internal Wallabies problems and I really can't see them improving 24 points on the last matchup which they'll need to do to cover.

    I hope I'm wrong but to me this is a no-brainer.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazzadude:

    The Wallabies tend to do well in the third test (I think they've always covered it from memory), but All Blacks coming off a loss is always a good spot.

    Aussie 3rd Bledisloe efforts have traditionally been ok as have their performances at Suncorp.

    Against this however is the fact that if the Wallabies 15 were available to play for New Zealand, the AB's run on side would probably not change. Folau and Hooper would be considered and maybe get some playing time but who else?

    AB's are simply a much better side than us at the moment and will not lose 2 on the trot . Throw in the internal Wallabies problems and I really can't see them improving 24 points on the last matchup which they'll need to do to cover.

    I hope I'm wrong but to me this is a no-brainer.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 12:25 AM ET #5

    ^ Don't see the point in thinking like that really, you can say that about nearly any team in the world including the Springboks who beat them last week.

    If rugby were a game won a paper it would be very easy to make money.

    Wallabies will galvanize from all this internal BS that the media loves to hype up, they are going to be one emotional(angry) unit with a backs against the wall mentality playing in their hostile fortress.

    There will be 3 points in this game and I wouldn't rule out another draw.

    Also some extra notes:

    Quade the hometown boy is on the bench, he could make a big impact off the bench

    Ashley-Cooper's 100th game

    All Blacks are 3-12 against the spread last 15 games
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    ^ Don't see the point in thinking like that really, you can say that about nearly any team in the world including the Springboks who beat them last week.

    If rugby were a game won a paper it would be very easy to make money.

    Wallabies will galvanize from all this internal BS that the media loves to hype up, they are going to be one emotional(angry) unit with a backs against the wall mentality playing in their hostile fortress.

    There will be 3 points in this game and I wouldn't rule out another draw.

    Also some extra notes:

    Quade the hometown boy is on the bench, he could make a big impact off the bench

    Ashley-Cooper's 100th game

    All Blacks are 3-12 against the spread last 15 games
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 12:40 AM ET #6

    4-12 last 16 sorry
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 12:47 AM ET #7

    Do you know the stat against the spread on AB after a loss?
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    Do you know the stat against the spread on AB after a loss?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 1:20 AM ET #8

    Can't say I do but after getting smacked by England 38-21 in 2012 they didn't cover against France the next game but that England game was the end of the season.


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    Can't say I do but after getting smacked by England 38-21 in 2012 they didn't cover against France the next game but that England game was the end of the season.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 7:13 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by hug0boss:

     
    All Blacks are 3-12 against the spread last 15 games

    And what's their ATS record coming off a draw or loss?
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    All Blacks are 3-12 against the spread last 15 games

    And what's their ATS record coming off a draw or loss?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 4:13 PM ET #10

    Stats can be very misleading when considering an upcoming bet. However I'll throw this one in seeing some are tossing stats around - AB's have beaten Wallabies by 8 or more on 7 of last 9 occasions and 12 of last 17.

    As previously stated I'm not trying to sway anyone, just putting forward my viewpoint and welcome all to do likewise.

    Good punting all

     

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    Stats can be very misleading when considering an upcoming bet. However I'll throw this one in seeing some are tossing stats around - AB's have beaten Wallabies by 8 or more on 7 of last 9 occasions and 12 of last 17.

    As previously stated I'm not trying to sway anyone, just putting forward my viewpoint and welcome all to do likewise.

    Good punting all

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 6:02 PM ET #11

    Sorry for asking the same question twice Hug0.
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    Sorry for asking the same question twice Hug0.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 10:02 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by GDayMate:

    Stats can be very misleading when considering an upcoming bet. However I'll throw this one in seeing some are tossing stats around - AB's have beaten Wallabies by 8 or more on 7 of last 9 occasions and 12 of last 17.

    As previously stated I'm not trying to sway anyone, just putting forward my viewpoint and welcome all to do likewise.

    Good punting all

     


    Yes you're right stats can be very misleading but 4-12 against the spread last 16 games is very relevant as that is all within the last year + a few months(starting with the last French game in June last year) so it's basically the same team without any major changes.

    Where as "AB's have beaten Wallabies by 8 or more on 7 of last 9 occasions and 12 of last 17."  is insignificant in comparison as that is under several different tenures with completely different players. 

    The only relevant comparison you can make is Wallabies have covered 2 out of the past 3 games against the All Blacks under the current tenure and group of players, with one of those matches being a draw.

    The All Blacks are extremely overrated, especially when it comes to betting(as per the 4-12 last 16) but also when it comes to their winning record, they've pulled the get out of jail free card more than their fair share of times in the past year and that finally came to an end against the Boks, it's a mentality issue more than anything else. Teams don't believe they can beat the ABs and throw it away. That is all about to change though and this aging team with a stubborn coaching staff that is looking to maintain rather than improve will be exposed more and more going forward, they'll be done over at the World Cup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GDayMate:

    Stats can be very misleading when considering an upcoming bet. However I'll throw this one in seeing some are tossing stats around - AB's have beaten Wallabies by 8 or more on 7 of last 9 occasions and 12 of last 17.

    As previously stated I'm not trying to sway anyone, just putting forward my viewpoint and welcome all to do likewise.

    Good punting all

     


    Yes you're right stats can be very misleading but 4-12 against the spread last 16 games is very relevant as that is all within the last year + a few months(starting with the last French game in June last year) so it's basically the same team without any major changes.

    Where as "AB's have beaten Wallabies by 8 or more on 7 of last 9 occasions and 12 of last 17."  is insignificant in comparison as that is under several different tenures with completely different players. 

    The only relevant comparison you can make is Wallabies have covered 2 out of the past 3 games against the All Blacks under the current tenure and group of players, with one of those matches being a draw.

    The All Blacks are extremely overrated, especially when it comes to betting(as per the 4-12 last 16) but also when it comes to their winning record, they've pulled the get out of jail free card more than their fair share of times in the past year and that finally came to an end against the Boks, it's a mentality issue more than anything else. Teams don't believe they can beat the ABs and throw it away. That is all about to change though and this aging team with a stubborn coaching staff that is looking to maintain rather than improve will be exposed more and more going forward, they'll be done over at the World Cup.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2014 - 6:09 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by hug0boss:


    Yes you're right stats can be very misleading but 4-12 against the spread last 16 games is very relevant as that is all within the last year + a few months(starting with the last French game in June last year) so it's basically the same team without any major changes.

    Where as "AB's have beaten Wallabies by 8 or more on 7 of last 9 occasions and 12 of last 17."  is insignificant in comparison as that is under several different tenures with completely different players. 

    The only relevant comparison you can make is Wallabies have covered 2 out of the past 3 games against the All Blacks under the current tenure and group of players, with one of those matches being a draw.

    The All Blacks are extremely overrated, especially when it comes to betting(as per the 4-12 last 16) but also when it comes to their winning record, they've pulled the get out of jail free card more than their fair share of times in the past year and that finally came to an end against the Boks, it's a mentality issue more than anything else. Teams don't believe they can beat the ABs and throw it away. That is all about to change though and this aging team with a stubborn coaching staff that is looking to maintain rather than improve will be exposed more and more going forward, they'll be done over at the World Cup.

    all blacks are overrated? LOL you are so stupid

    what an idiot
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    Yes you're right stats can be very misleading but 4-12 against the spread last 16 games is very relevant as that is all within the last year + a few months(starting with the last French game in June last year) so it's basically the same team without any major changes.

    Where as "AB's have beaten Wallabies by 8 or more on 7 of last 9 occasions and 12 of last 17."  is insignificant in comparison as that is under several different tenures with completely different players. 

    The only relevant comparison you can make is Wallabies have covered 2 out of the past 3 games against the All Blacks under the current tenure and group of players, with one of those matches being a draw.

    The All Blacks are extremely overrated, especially when it comes to betting(as per the 4-12 last 16) but also when it comes to their winning record, they've pulled the get out of jail free card more than their fair share of times in the past year and that finally came to an end against the Boks, it's a mentality issue more than anything else. Teams don't believe they can beat the ABs and throw it away. That is all about to change though and this aging team with a stubborn coaching staff that is looking to maintain rather than improve will be exposed more and more going forward, they'll be done over at the World Cup.

    all blacks are overrated? LOL you are so stupid

    what an idiot
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2014 - 8:09 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by serg7:


    all blacks are overrated? LOL you are so stupid

    what an idiot

    highly constructive and compelling case, well done buddy 
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    all blacks are overrated? LOL you are so stupid

    what an idiot

    highly constructive and compelling case, well done buddy 
     
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    Well free world to have own thoughts.  The day anything can happen for sports. Of course ausi can win. Its sports and gambling.   Good luck all and have good weekends. 
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    Well free world to have own thoughts.  The day anything can happen for sports. Of course ausi can win. Its sports and gambling.   Good luck all and have good weekends. 
     
     
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    pricks get out of jail again...
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