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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2011 - 2:02 AM ET #1

    Dan Carter's Groin Injury

    So Carter's out for the World Cup, what are the thoughts here on covers? Will New Zealand choke  or will they prevail despite the setback? 
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    Dan Carter's Groin Injury

    So Carter's out for the World Cup, what are the thoughts here on covers? Will New Zealand choke  or will they prevail despite the setback? 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2011 - 2:49 AM ET #2

    Don't think it matters too much tbh, most teams have a host of injuries and look like shit. Still on NZ

    Take what you want from the Kiwi

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    Don't think it matters too much tbh, most teams have a host of injuries and look like shit. Still on NZ

    Take what you want from the Kiwi

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2011 - 2:53 AM ET #3

    I agree, i dont think it matters THAT much but he's such an integral player on and off the field that the team might feel his absence more than needed. For example, Lockyer being out of the Broncos match might have dampened their spirits i think. Also, he's such a fantastic kicker and territory is so important in union that having a good kicker to firstly get those penalty kicks and secondly to be able to make the extra 10m and still get the ball to go out.

    Buttt, I'm still rooting for the All Blacks!!! 
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    I agree, i dont think it matters THAT much but he's such an integral player on and off the field that the team might feel his absence more than needed. For example, Lockyer being out of the Broncos match might have dampened their spirits i think. Also, he's such a fantastic kicker and territory is so important in union that having a good kicker to firstly get those penalty kicks and secondly to be able to make the extra 10m and still get the ball to go out.

    Buttt, I'm still rooting for the All Blacks!!! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2011 - 6:16 PM ET #4

    New Zealand would have to completely shit the bed to lose this world cup.  Only team that looks even remotely capable of keeping up with them is South Africa right now.
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    New Zealand would have to completely shit the bed to lose this world cup.  Only team that looks even remotely capable of keeping up with them is South Africa right now.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2011 - 10:08 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    New Zealand would have to completely shit the bed to lose this world cup.  Only team that looks even remotely capable of keeping up with them is South Africa right now.


    Saffers can't hurt this All Blacks team, they are living off their 2007 glory when selecting their team and as a result carrying too many passengers. Wallabies are the only team IMO that can beat the All Blacks. Problem for them is even if they do beat the Saffers they are probably going to get bashed physically in doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

    New Zealand would have to completely shit the bed to lose this world cup.  Only team that looks even remotely capable of keeping up with them is South Africa right now.


    Saffers can't hurt this All Blacks team, they are living off their 2007 glory when selecting their team and as a result carrying too many passengers. Wallabies are the only team IMO that can beat the All Blacks. Problem for them is even if they do beat the Saffers they are probably going to get bashed physically in doing so.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2011 - 10:11 PM ET #6

    I would have thought France as well but they look like they are about to implode any minute now.
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    I would have thought France as well but they look like they are about to implode any minute now.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2011 - 11:27 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:



    Saffers can't hurt this All Blacks team, they are living off their 2007 glory when selecting their team and as a result carrying too many passengers. Wallabies are the only team IMO that can beat the All Blacks. Problem for them is even if they do beat the Saffers they are probably going to get bashed physically in doing so.


    Didn't say that SA would beat NZ, just thought they were the only side even remotely close to them as of now.

    Australia took a dump against Ireland and surrendered 22 against a physically battered Russian side.  TWENTY-TWO!  I don't fancy the Aussies at all right now.  Deans is crap and has to be sacked immediately after the WC.  He is the anti-clutch and cannot get them up for the big moments nor attain the consistency expected of a top-tiered rugby side. 
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    Saffers can't hurt this All Blacks team, they are living off their 2007 glory when selecting their team and as a result carrying too many passengers. Wallabies are the only team IMO that can beat the All Blacks. Problem for them is even if they do beat the Saffers they are probably going to get bashed physically in doing so.


    Didn't say that SA would beat NZ, just thought they were the only side even remotely close to them as of now.

    Australia took a dump against Ireland and surrendered 22 against a physically battered Russian side.  TWENTY-TWO!  I don't fancy the Aussies at all right now.  Deans is crap and has to be sacked immediately after the WC.  He is the anti-clutch and cannot get them up for the big moments nor attain the consistency expected of a top-tiered rugby side. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2011 - 12:27 AM ET #8

    I found this highly amusing, saw it on the internet somewhere.


    Dear Robbie 
    Congratulations on reaching your 50th Test as Coach of the Wallabies. 

    Can I start by saying what a choice job you’ve been doing since you first started working for New Zealand Rugby in 2008. It has been a long-term task, but the plan to ensure the All Blacks win the World Cup at home in 2011 is coming together perfectly.

    My idea of getting you to be hired by Australian Rugby as their national coach and then sabotage the Wallabies from within, in my own modest opinion, was an absolute masterstroke.

    While our plan had many doubters, I always knew in my heart that the Aussies would fall for it. After reaching 50 tests as coach on the weekend, I think its only fitting to mention what I think is your top 9 highlights of sabotage to date:

    1. Losing to Ireland 
    2. Giving Rocky the captaincy of the country he hadn’t played for in over two years, then stripping it off him right before the World Cup
    3. Losing to Scotland 
    4. Not picking a backup for Pocock in the World Cup squad 
    5. Never using the Wallaby bench effectively 
    6. Not having a back-up game plan 
    7. Using words like “contest, willing, collision, contact-zone, adaptation” to describe rugby 
    8. Losing to Samoa 
    9. Winning only 54% of all your games as coach of historically one of the most successful teams in Rugby 

    I can’t believe after all this they then extended your contract for a further two years!

    How they didn’t work out our plan after you coached them to 10 Bledisloe cup losses in a row is full credit to you and were all very proud of you back at home bro.

    Well done once again and as planned we’ll see you at Ritchie’s after the World Cup to celebrate pulling the wool over the Aussies' eyes.

    Cheers 
    Graham Henry

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    Dear Robbie 
    Congratulations on reaching your 50th Test as Coach of the Wallabies. 

    Can I start by saying what a choice job you’ve been doing since you first started working for New Zealand Rugby in 2008. It has been a long-term task, but the plan to ensure the All Blacks win the World Cup at home in 2011 is coming together perfectly.

    My idea of getting you to be hired by Australian Rugby as their national coach and then sabotage the Wallabies from within, in my own modest opinion, was an absolute masterstroke.

    While our plan had many doubters, I always knew in my heart that the Aussies would fall for it. After reaching 50 tests as coach on the weekend, I think its only fitting to mention what I think is your top 9 highlights of sabotage to date:

    1. Losing to Ireland 
    2. Giving Rocky the captaincy of the country he hadn’t played for in over two years, then stripping it off him right before the World Cup
    3. Losing to Scotland 
    4. Not picking a backup for Pocock in the World Cup squad 
    5. Never using the Wallaby bench effectively 
    6. Not having a back-up game plan 
    7. Using words like “contest, willing, collision, contact-zone, adaptation” to describe rugby 
    8. Losing to Samoa 
    9. Winning only 54% of all your games as coach of historically one of the most successful teams in Rugby 

    I can’t believe after all this they then extended your contract for a further two years!

    How they didn’t work out our plan after you coached them to 10 Bledisloe cup losses in a row is full credit to you and were all very proud of you back at home bro.

    Well done once again and as planned we’ll see you at Ritchie’s after the World Cup to celebrate pulling the wool over the Aussies' eyes.

    Cheers 
    Graham Henry

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2011 - 3:56 AM ET #9

    Saffers are ordinary,Wallabies should be gang raped repeatedly if they lose to them old plodders
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2011 - 5:28 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Saffers are ordinary,Wallabies should be gang raped repeatedly if they lose to them old plodders



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    Saffers are ordinary,Wallabies should be gang raped repeatedly if they lose to them old plodders



     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2011 - 4:45 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by SAyR:

    I found this highly amusing, saw it on the internet somewhere.


    Dear Robbie 
    Congratulations on reaching your 50th Test as Coach of the Wallabies. 

    Can I start by saying what a choice job you’ve been doing since you first started working for New Zealand Rugby in 2008. It has been a long-term task, but the plan to ensure the All Blacks win the World Cup at home in 2011 is coming together perfectly.

    My idea of getting you to be hired by Australian Rugby as their national coach and then sabotage the Wallabies from within, in my own modest opinion, was an absolute masterstroke.

    While our plan had many doubters, I always knew in my heart that the Aussies would fall for it. After reaching 50 tests as coach on the weekend, I think its only fitting to mention what I think is your top 9 highlights of sabotage to date:

    1. Losing to Ireland 
    2. Giving Rocky the captaincy of the country he hadn’t played for in over two years, then stripping it off him right before the World Cup
    3. Losing to Scotland 
    4. Not picking a backup for Pocock in the World Cup squad 
    5. Never using the Wallaby bench effectively 
    6. Not having a back-up game plan 
    7. Using words like “contest, willing, collision, contact-zone, adaptation” to describe rugby 
    8. Losing to Samoa 
    9. Winning only 54% of all your games as coach of historically one of the most successful teams in Rugby 

    I can’t believe after all this they then extended your contract for a further two years!

    How they didn’t work out our plan after you coached them to 10 Bledisloe cup losses in a row is full credit to you and were all very proud of you back at home bro.

    Well done once again and as planned we’ll see you at Ritchie’s after the World Cup to celebrate pulling the wool over the Aussies' eyes.

    Cheers 
    Graham Henry



    Looks like I'm not the only one keen on seeing Deans' immediate release upon conclusion of the WC.
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    Dear Robbie 
    Congratulations on reaching your 50th Test as Coach of the Wallabies. 

    Can I start by saying what a choice job you’ve been doing since you first started working for New Zealand Rugby in 2008. It has been a long-term task, but the plan to ensure the All Blacks win the World Cup at home in 2011 is coming together perfectly.

    My idea of getting you to be hired by Australian Rugby as their national coach and then sabotage the Wallabies from within, in my own modest opinion, was an absolute masterstroke.

    While our plan had many doubters, I always knew in my heart that the Aussies would fall for it. After reaching 50 tests as coach on the weekend, I think its only fitting to mention what I think is your top 9 highlights of sabotage to date:

    1. Losing to Ireland 
    2. Giving Rocky the captaincy of the country he hadn’t played for in over two years, then stripping it off him right before the World Cup
    3. Losing to Scotland 
    4. Not picking a backup for Pocock in the World Cup squad 
    5. Never using the Wallaby bench effectively 
    6. Not having a back-up game plan 
    7. Using words like “contest, willing, collision, contact-zone, adaptation” to describe rugby 
    8. Losing to Samoa 
    9. Winning only 54% of all your games as coach of historically one of the most successful teams in Rugby 

    I can’t believe after all this they then extended your contract for a further two years!

    How they didn’t work out our plan after you coached them to 10 Bledisloe cup losses in a row is full credit to you and were all very proud of you back at home bro.

    Well done once again and as planned we’ll see you at Ritchie’s after the World Cup to celebrate pulling the wool over the Aussies' eyes.

    Cheers 
    Graham Henry



    Looks like I'm not the only one keen on seeing Deans' immediate release upon conclusion of the WC.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2011 - 4:56 PM ET #12

    Love all your work boys. very good stuff in here. I think NZ still have great chance to win and have gottn lucky that SA and Ozi are gna beat eachother up this week.

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    Love all your work boys. very good stuff in here. I think NZ still have great chance to win and have gottn lucky that SA and Ozi are gna beat eachother up this week.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2011 - 8:20 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:



    Looks like I'm not the only one keen on seeing Deans' immediate release upon conclusion of the WC.

    Quite the contrary! I love him! But i don't actually support the Wallabies soooo.... 
    He's signed on for another 2 years anyway, so 2 more tri nation losses coming right up 
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    Looks like I'm not the only one keen on seeing Deans' immediate release upon conclusion of the WC.

    Quite the contrary! I love him! But i don't actually support the Wallabies soooo.... 
    He's signed on for another 2 years anyway, so 2 more tri nation losses coming right up 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAyR:


    Quite the contrary! I love him! But i don't actually support the Wallabies soooo.... 
    He's signed on for another 2 years anyway, so 2 more tri nation losses coming right up 


    He is gutless with no aggression and the Wallabies play like just that.

    The longer Deans stays, the more the Wallabies become shark meat.
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    Quite the contrary! I love him! But i don't actually support the Wallabies soooo.... 
    He's signed on for another 2 years anyway, so 2 more tri nation losses coming right up 


    He is gutless with no aggression and the Wallabies play like just that.

    The longer Deans stays, the more the Wallabies become shark meat.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2011 - 5:52 AM ET #15

    Very true, I saw how they came out against USA. Just pathetic. USA, knowing they were going to lose, came out all guns blazing and smashed the shit outta the wallabies. I remember looking at the clock; 0:57 and Horne had just gotten smashed by an American and Genia or something had knocked it on.

    After half time their fitness kicked in and the Wallabies were able to make breaks etc etc, but for almost half the match it looked like USA's 2nd XV could keep up with Australia!!
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    Very true, I saw how they came out against USA. Just pathetic. USA, knowing they were going to lose, came out all guns blazing and smashed the shit outta the wallabies. I remember looking at the clock; 0:57 and Horne had just gotten smashed by an American and Genia or something had knocked it on.

    After half time their fitness kicked in and the Wallabies were able to make breaks etc etc, but for almost half the match it looked like USA's 2nd XV could keep up with Australia!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAyR:

    Very true, I saw how they came out against USA. Just pathetic. USA, knowing they were going to lose, came out all guns blazing and smashed the shit outta the wallabies. I remember looking at the clock; 0:57 and Horne had just gotten smashed by an American and Genia or something had knocked it on.

    After half time their fitness kicked in and the Wallabies were able to make breaks etc etc, but for almost half the match it looked like USA's 2nd XV could keep up with Australia!!


    The 16 or 18-phase set down the pitch to lead into a 5m scrum and then try from the put-in was one of the most magnificent series of USA Rugby I have ever seen.  By the 2nd XV, against the Wallabies 1st XV, nonetheless.

    Impressive.

    Fitness is always the backbreaker in those types of matches though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAyR:

    Very true, I saw how they came out against USA. Just pathetic. USA, knowing they were going to lose, came out all guns blazing and smashed the shit outta the wallabies. I remember looking at the clock; 0:57 and Horne had just gotten smashed by an American and Genia or something had knocked it on.

    After half time their fitness kicked in and the Wallabies were able to make breaks etc etc, but for almost half the match it looked like USA's 2nd XV could keep up with Australia!!


    The 16 or 18-phase set down the pitch to lead into a 5m scrum and then try from the put-in was one of the most magnificent series of USA Rugby I have ever seen.  By the 2nd XV, against the Wallabies 1st XV, nonetheless.

    Impressive.

    Fitness is always the backbreaker in those types of matches though.
     
     
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    Yesss, i remember that! Fantastic set of phases there. Reminded me of the All Blacks vs Wallabies when Wallabies won, 27 phase try.

    Definitely, fitness is crucial in that second half. the movie invictus mentioned it, if you've watched it.
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    Yesss, i remember that! Fantastic set of phases there. Reminded me of the All Blacks vs Wallabies when Wallabies won, 27 phase try.

    Definitely, fitness is crucial in that second half. the movie invictus mentioned it, if you've watched it.
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