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    Tampa Bay at St. Louis (12/17/2015)

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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2015 - 4:08 AM ET #1

    Away:  Tampa Bay [7-6 ATS]
    Home:  St. Louis [5-7-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:25 PM
    Stadium: Edward Jones Dome

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Jameis Winston (3059)
    Rushing: Doug Martin (1214)
    Receiving: Mike Evans (889)

    St. Louis:
    Passing: Nick Foles (2052)
    Rushing: Todd Gurley (975)
    Receiving: Kenny Britt (480)

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    Away:  Tampa Bay [7-6 ATS]
    Home:  St. Louis [5-7-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 8:25 PM
    Stadium: Edward Jones Dome

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Jameis Winston (3059)
    Rushing: Doug Martin (1214)
    Receiving: Mike Evans (889)

    St. Louis:
    Passing: Nick Foles (2052)
    Rushing: Todd Gurley (975)
    Receiving: Kenny Britt (480)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2015 - 2:14 PM ET #2

    If anyone out there is following my picks of late, you've made a nice haul, I know I have. I gave out the Pats and under Sun. nite and the Giants and over last night. Well, lets see if we can kick start this week........... I like T'Bay to rebound from a tough loss to the 'Aints and win a close game against the Rams. I'm leaning towards the UNDER also as the Rams have a pretty good D and I can see a lot of running in this one between Gurley and Doug Martin. Gurley's injury is nothing serious they say.  GL all, I hope to stay hot!   --    THE Myth

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    If anyone out there is following my picks of late, you've made a nice haul, I know I have. I gave out the Pats and under Sun. nite and the Giants and over last night. Well, lets see if we can kick start this week........... I like T'Bay to rebound from a tough loss to the 'Aints and win a close game against the Rams. I'm leaning towards the UNDER also as the Rams have a pretty good D and I can see a lot of running in this one between Gurley and Doug Martin. Gurley's injury is nothing serious they say.  GL all, I hope to stay hot!   --    THE Myth

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2015 - 2:40 AM ET #3

    Tampa Bay (+1.5) 21 ST. LOUIS 19

    With a chance to gain some ground in the playoff race the Bucs couldn’t deliver last week and now at 6-7 are on the outside looking in with a tentative hold on the #7 seed. Playoff hopes seem remote at this point but no doubt Tampa wants to bounce back from a bad performance last week at home against the Saints. The Bucs were outgained in that game but shut down the Saints on the ground – holding them to just 89 yards at 2.7 ypr. Their problem was that they couldn’t slow down Drew Brees and the Saints passing game and that has been their problem all year.

    Fortunately for the Bucs this game sets up pretty well for them because the Rams don’t have a passing game at all – they average 173 passing yards at 5.5 yps against teams that allow 241 yards at 6.5 yps and so I don’t expect much production against a Bucs unit that is about average defending the pass. What Tampa does well, however, is stop the run – they allow just 95 yards per game at 3.6 ypr to teams that average 103 yards at 4.1 ypr. They’ll be geared up to shut down the only real offensive threat that St. Louis possesses – Todd Gurley. While the Rams ran well last week against a deflated Lions squad, they gained less than 95 yards rushing per game in the four games prior and I expect them to be limited in this game as well.

    On the other side the Bucs offense has been better than average this season and are powered by a strong ground game that averages 142 rushing yards at 5.0 ypr against teams that allow 115 yards at 4.4. The Rams have talent on their defensive front but have been just league average defending the run this season so I expect the Bucs will be able to move the ball on the ground and win this game in the trenches.  

    Take TB + 1.5 bol!!!

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    Tampa Bay (+1.5) 21 ST. LOUIS 19

    With a chance to gain some ground in the playoff race the Bucs couldn’t deliver last week and now at 6-7 are on the outside looking in with a tentative hold on the #7 seed. Playoff hopes seem remote at this point but no doubt Tampa wants to bounce back from a bad performance last week at home against the Saints. The Bucs were outgained in that game but shut down the Saints on the ground – holding them to just 89 yards at 2.7 ypr. Their problem was that they couldn’t slow down Drew Brees and the Saints passing game and that has been their problem all year.

    Fortunately for the Bucs this game sets up pretty well for them because the Rams don’t have a passing game at all – they average 173 passing yards at 5.5 yps against teams that allow 241 yards at 6.5 yps and so I don’t expect much production against a Bucs unit that is about average defending the pass. What Tampa does well, however, is stop the run – they allow just 95 yards per game at 3.6 ypr to teams that average 103 yards at 4.1 ypr. They’ll be geared up to shut down the only real offensive threat that St. Louis possesses – Todd Gurley. While the Rams ran well last week against a deflated Lions squad, they gained less than 95 yards rushing per game in the four games prior and I expect them to be limited in this game as well.

    On the other side the Bucs offense has been better than average this season and are powered by a strong ground game that averages 142 rushing yards at 5.0 ypr against teams that allow 115 yards at 4.4. The Rams have talent on their defensive front but have been just league average defending the run this season so I expect the Bucs will be able to move the ball on the ground and win this game in the trenches.  

    Take TB + 1.5 bol!!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2015 - 12:55 PM ET #4

    I don't follow any one's picks, I did my own research and picked whatever I think it wiill bring me to the win column, the last few days were nice and winning for me. Today, I will go with St. Louis because my system is telling me that is the right side in this matchup. St. Louis - Rams minus whatever ....

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    I don't follow any one's picks, I did my own research and picked whatever I think it wiill bring me to the win column, the last few days were nice and winning for me. Today, I will go with St. Louis because my system is telling me that is the right side in this matchup. St. Louis - Rams minus whatever ....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2015 - 6:39 PM ET #5

    I got no feels for this game. Maybe a small play on the Under 41

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    I got no feels for this game. Maybe a small play on the Under 41

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2015 - 6:47 PM ET #6

                        Cappers with multiple Black Stars (R.S.I), shouldn't be making suggestions to others this late into the season! Beware of long term losers!

    ST. LOUIS     -   2.5

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                        Cappers with multiple Black Stars (R.S.I), shouldn't be making suggestions to others this late into the season! Beware of long term losers!

    ST. LOUIS     -   2.5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2015 - 8:06 PM ET #7

    Agree Vue ...

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    Agree Vue ...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2015 - 11:14 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

                        Cappers with multiple Black Stars (R.S.I), shouldn't be making suggestions to others this late into the season! Beware of long term losers!

    ST. LOUIS     -   2.5


    LMFAO !!!  DURING LAST CONSECUTIVE YEARS THERE IS NO BETTER LONG TERM LOSER THAN YOU VUE EXCEPT FOR SH8TLIFTER AND HOLTNT ( WHICH HAPPENS TO BE YOUR COUSIN) LMAO !!! SO YOU GOT 1 1/2 STAR !!! WOW  HAHAHAHA  GUESS YOU WERE DUE TO GET  LUCKY AND YOU FINALLY GOT SMART MAKING WAY LESS PICKS TO PRESERVE A ONE STAR STATUS TILL YEARS END !  LMFAO !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

                        Cappers with multiple Black Stars (R.S.I), shouldn't be making suggestions to others this late into the season! Beware of long term losers!

    ST. LOUIS     -   2.5


    LMFAO !!!  DURING LAST CONSECUTIVE YEARS THERE IS NO BETTER LONG TERM LOSER THAN YOU VUE EXCEPT FOR SH8TLIFTER AND HOLTNT ( WHICH HAPPENS TO BE YOUR COUSIN) LMAO !!! SO YOU GOT 1 1/2 STAR !!! WOW  HAHAHAHA  GUESS YOU WERE DUE TO GET  LUCKY AND YOU FINALLY GOT SMART MAKING WAY LESS PICKS TO PRESERVE A ONE STAR STATUS TILL YEARS END !  LMFAO !!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 12:12 AM ET #9

    Yeah, I tend to take advice either. I'm an 80% capper in college football,nut alas, very mediocre in pros. I am better than 50% but I welcome insight from cappers who may have their finger more on the pro pulse than me. I like theMyth's insight on this one. He could be wrong, could be right but i have the game picked the same so it's reassuring. Vue, I don't even know what to make of him. The few times i've paid attention to his picks, in college, it's almost like he's giving you the opposite of what you should play. Once upon a time, before i knew any better, he made me doubt my own analysis. I really don't post much or read much in forums so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Big mistake. Maybe vue is Sam friggin Rothstein but anyrime i've ever noticed his picks, in college, they've been jokes.

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    Yeah, I tend to take advice either. I'm an 80% capper in college football,nut alas, very mediocre in pros. I am better than 50% but I welcome insight from cappers who may have their finger more on the pro pulse than me. I like theMyth's insight on this one. He could be wrong, could be right but i have the game picked the same so it's reassuring. Vue, I don't even know what to make of him. The few times i've paid attention to his picks, in college, it's almost like he's giving you the opposite of what you should play. Once upon a time, before i knew any better, he made me doubt my own analysis. I really don't post much or read much in forums so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Big mistake. Maybe vue is Sam friggin Rothstein but anyrime i've ever noticed his picks, in college, they've been jokes.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 12:13 AM ET #10

    *don't tend to take advice.

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    *don't tend to take advice.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 1:35 AM ET #11

    Right or wrong atleast he ("myth") gives you some iexplanation / nformation about his pick. I

    I have been on the forum for awhile now and by no means am I an expert, but I thought this forum was here for us to gain some insight and hopefully make some $$$ bol!!!

     

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    Right or wrong atleast he ("myth") gives you some iexplanation / nformation about his pick. I

    I have been on the forum for awhile now and by no means am I an expert, but I thought this forum was here for us to gain some insight and hopefully make some $$$ bol!!!

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 1:40 AM ET #12

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    Clemosn + 4 & MSU +10?

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    Clemosn + 4 & MSU +10?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 2:40 AM ET #13

    Realistically the playoff race is over for Tampa.  But they can pretend they have a chance, and matimatically they do.  The players know it is over.  Both of these teams a fairly bad.  I keep hearing how great this QB is for Tampa, but I don't think much of him.

    I would say bet on the crappy home team instead of the crappy road team.  Bettter yet, pass, or bet little.

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    Realistically the playoff race is over for Tampa.  But they can pretend they have a chance, and matimatically they do.  The players know it is over.  Both of these teams a fairly bad.  I keep hearing how great this QB is for Tampa, but I don't think much of him.

    I would say bet on the crappy home team instead of the crappy road team.  Bettter yet, pass, or bet little.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 2:43 AM ET #14

    Don't like this game at all but I'll roll with crazyman2003 ! ,cant wait for this weekend  plenty of good action coming this weekend college basketball and college football and pro football and pro basketball so for now  go Rams !!

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    Don't like this game at all but I'll roll with crazyman2003 ! ,cant wait for this weekend  plenty of good action coming this weekend college basketball and college football and pro football and pro basketball so for now  go Rams !!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 2:49 AM ET #15

    This could be the second last home game ever for the Saints.  The owner has talked about moving to LA.  Could it give them some extra motivation?

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    This could be the second last home game ever for the Saints.  The owner has talked about moving to LA.  Could it give them some extra motivation?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 3:07 AM ET #16

    Vue, stars don't matter WTF so ever, just folks making multiple picks trying to win a contest, most likely does not reflect on their personal wagering, hopefully not anyhow. yeah I lost on Dolphins side but won on the over, lost a little, but does not remove me or anyone from comment in this forum. we should always stick with your gut and math on games unless something makes inconclusive sense to move in the other direction. So let's stop harping on folks and saying negative stuff and be encouraging. As I've said before, if this sH*t were easy the old folks would stop playing bingo and maybe we would not be here posting and doing something else with our time. And to tell the truth as much as I enjoy this forum, if I was killing to the point to quit my job, I'd be fly fishing and powder skiing my a$$ off and most likely not posting at all, so let us chill on our egos and be cool. None of us know each other( unles you do), and what would be the point of ridicule if you did know each other. Come on now, keep it fun, educational, inspiring, and not some g%dd@m pissing contest, cheers and happy holidays!

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    Vue, stars don't matter WTF so ever, just folks making multiple picks trying to win a contest, most likely does not reflect on their personal wagering, hopefully not anyhow. yeah I lost on Dolphins side but won on the over, lost a little, but does not remove me or anyone from comment in this forum. we should always stick with your gut and math on games unless something makes inconclusive sense to move in the other direction. So let's stop harping on folks and saying negative stuff and be encouraging. As I've said before, if this sH*t were easy the old folks would stop playing bingo and maybe we would not be here posting and doing something else with our time. And to tell the truth as much as I enjoy this forum, if I was killing to the point to quit my job, I'd be fly fishing and powder skiing my a$$ off and most likely not posting at all, so let us chill on our egos and be cool. None of us know each other( unles you do), and what would be the point of ridicule if you did know each other. Come on now, keep it fun, educational, inspiring, and not some g%dd@m pissing contest, cheers and happy holidays!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 4:16 AM ET #17

    Agree with Nofrigginway... Vue and HOLT are the worst! just cuz HOLT always speaks in CAPS doesnt mean he knows what hes talking about. knew my Memphis bet was a loser today once I seen him on it. some great guys to fade on sbrforum too.

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    Agree with Nofrigginway... Vue and HOLT are the worst! just cuz HOLT always speaks in CAPS doesnt mean he knows what hes talking about. knew my Memphis bet was a loser today once I seen him on it. some great guys to fade on sbrforum too.

     
    piotrtoro
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 6:43 AM ET #18

    UNDER should be the play tonight.

    BOL

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    UNDER should be the play tonight.

    BOL

     
    XSixburghX
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 9:04 AM ET #19

    I don't always agree with TheMyth, but I appreciate that he gives good personal insight and analysis. When we pool together our different view pointsand information; we can help each other increase our odds of making the best choice. 

    That being said, I agree with the previous posts. Tampa Bay has been good against the run, and with the struggling pass offense of St Louis, I see the Bucs covering this spread in a low scoring game. 

    Tampa Bay +1

    Under 41

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    I don't always agree with TheMyth, but I appreciate that he gives good personal insight and analysis. When we pool together our different view pointsand information; we can help each other increase our odds of making the best choice. 

    That being said, I agree with the previous posts. Tampa Bay has been good against the run, and with the struggling pass offense of St Louis, I see the Bucs covering this spread in a low scoring game. 

    Tampa Bay +1

    Under 41

     
    Sen-C
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 10:24 AM ET #20

    Doug Martin is going to slap the ish out of that rams run defense
    TB also trying to keep their playoff hopes alive, yes the loss against saints got the bucs fired up
    Tampa Bay + 3.0
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    Doug Martin is going to slap the ish out of that rams run defense
    TB also trying to keep their playoff hopes alive, yes the loss against saints got the bucs fired up
    Tampa Bay + 3.0
     
    Oransalaso7
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 11:19 AM ET #21

    Tampa  bay a más de 43

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    Tampa  bay a más de 43

     
    kidd22
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 11:26 AM ET #22

    I agree with ncdcbag it's us against the books we should b helping each other out not busting each other's balls I'm here to help if I could this game sucks personally but I do favor the under and the rams so I'm going with a teaser small wager so good luck everyone plenty action this weekend 

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    I agree with ncdcbag it's us against the books we should b helping each other out not busting each other's balls I'm here to help if I could this game sucks personally but I do favor the under and the rams so I'm going with a teaser small wager so good luck everyone plenty action this weekend 

     
    Crazyman2003
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 12:33 PM ET #23

    Kidd22, becarefull with the Under, I see this game easily goes Over the posted Total. If I have to play on the total, I will pick the Over. I could be wrong but this is what my system is telling me.

    Thanks for rolling with me on the Rams.

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    Kidd22, becarefull with the Under, I see this game easily goes Over the posted Total. If I have to play on the total, I will pick the Over. I could be wrong but this is what my system is telling me.

    Thanks for rolling with me on the Rams.

     
    ncdcbag
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 12:58 PM ET #24

    The Myth is on a good run as of late, and he does provide good explanations and insight as well as many others here, greatly appreciated, tough call for me on side because the Rams are tough at home, Rams can ruin any remote chance of BUCS getting into playoffs  and help their remote chance at the same time, love what's going on in TB, love seeeing teams improve, like that over and if I picked a side it would be RAMS, have a good and profittable day

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    The Myth is on a good run as of late, and he does provide good explanations and insight as well as many others here, greatly appreciated, tough call for me on side because the Rams are tough at home, Rams can ruin any remote chance of BUCS getting into playoffs  and help their remote chance at the same time, love what's going on in TB, love seeeing teams improve, like that over and if I picked a side it would be RAMS, have a good and profittable day

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2015 - 1:03 PM ET #25

    TB +2-   moneybag

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    TB +2-   moneybag

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