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    San Diego at Oakland (09/28/2008)

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    Mr_Covers
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2008 - 1:15 AM ET #1

    Away:  San Diego [1-1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Oakland [2-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:05 PM
    Stadium: McAfee Coliseum

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (844)
    Rushing: LaDainian Tomlinson (190)
    Receiving: Vincent Jackson (194)

    Oakland:
    Passing: JaMarcus Russell (391)
    Rushing: Darren McFadden (252)
    Receiving: Johnnie Lee Higgins (84)

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    Away:  San Diego [1-1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Oakland [2-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:05 PM
    Stadium: McAfee Coliseum

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    San Diego:
    Passing: Philip Rivers (844)
    Rushing: LaDainian Tomlinson (190)
    Receiving: Vincent Jackson (194)

    Oakland:
    Passing: JaMarcus Russell (391)
    Rushing: Darren McFadden (252)
    Receiving: Johnnie Lee Higgins (84)

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    tonktime
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2008 - 10:20 AM ET #2

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    Still not sure I'm comfortable throwing my money on OAK, but I really think they cover here.  Yeah SD looked good last week, but they still got 29 scored on them at home and for the second straight week, they faced a weak defense.  OAK has played well the last two weeks, and with all the shennanegins that have gone on in this rivalry in past years, this should be a lot closer than most people think.  OAK has a very good D (right up there with SD's) and their offense is starting to gel, starting with that run game.  Again, still marinating on this one, but if i play it, I've got OAK.
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    Still not sure I'm comfortable throwing my money on OAK, but I really think they cover here.  Yeah SD looked good last week, but they still got 29 scored on them at home and for the second straight week, they faced a weak defense.  OAK has played well the last two weeks, and with all the shennanegins that have gone on in this rivalry in past years, this should be a lot closer than most people think.  OAK has a very good D (right up there with SD's) and their offense is starting to gel, starting with that run game.  Again, still marinating on this one, but if i play it, I've got OAK.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2008 - 6:05 PM ET #4

    Oakland - 17                     San Diego - 13
    Raiders +7                under 45
    Oakland 11 - 2 ATS away before week of rest.
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    Oakland - 17                     San Diego - 13
    Raiders +7                under 45
    Oakland 11 - 2 ATS away before week of rest.
     
    Coloneljim
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2008 - 6:06 PM ET #5

    sorry they are home.
    OH well all the more reason to take the Silver and Black.
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    sorry they are home.
    OH well all the more reason to take the Silver and Black.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2008 - 3:41 PM ET #6

    Coloneljim u really believe that pick..YOU MAKE ME LAUGH LOL.
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    Coloneljim u really believe that pick..YOU MAKE ME LAUGH LOL.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2008 - 6:33 PM ET #7

    This game should be another easy cover for the Chargers. The Chargers are a playoff team and this is a big division game for them. They can not afford to lose this game, kind of like they couldn't afford to lose to the Jets. The Chargers defense has plenty of new players from last year, but they are still very capable of shutting down Oakland's offense. Their defense continues to improve with each game as they continue to learn how to play together. The offense has been steady all year and although Oakland has a solid defense, the Chargers should be able to control the pace and build a nice lead early. If they are able to do this, which i believe that they will because of the importance of keeping up with the Broncos in the division, Oakland will not be able to climb back in the game. Their offense just isn't built to do this yet. Although the Charger's defense has struggled so far, their secondary is still among the best in the league, and their defensive line isn't too bad either. Also note that against the jets, their defense was very good, but it was their special teams that let them down. They have been at the top of the league in special teams play for the past few seasons, so look for this unit to step up big against Oakland. Throw the home field advantage out the window in this game as the Chargers will dominate from start to finish. Should win again by at least 2 TD's.

    Easy play on Chargers +9 or whatever it goes up to
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    This game should be another easy cover for the Chargers. The Chargers are a playoff team and this is a big division game for them. They can not afford to lose this game, kind of like they couldn't afford to lose to the Jets. The Chargers defense has plenty of new players from last year, but they are still very capable of shutting down Oakland's offense. Their defense continues to improve with each game as they continue to learn how to play together. The offense has been steady all year and although Oakland has a solid defense, the Chargers should be able to control the pace and build a nice lead early. If they are able to do this, which i believe that they will because of the importance of keeping up with the Broncos in the division, Oakland will not be able to climb back in the game. Their offense just isn't built to do this yet. Although the Charger's defense has struggled so far, their secondary is still among the best in the league, and their defensive line isn't too bad either. Also note that against the jets, their defense was very good, but it was their special teams that let them down. They have been at the top of the league in special teams play for the past few seasons, so look for this unit to step up big against Oakland. Throw the home field advantage out the window in this game as the Chargers will dominate from start to finish. Should win again by at least 2 TD's.

    Easy play on Chargers +9 or whatever it goes up to
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 10:33 AM ET #8

    Oakland may win this game if not, they do cover this week at home.
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    Oakland may win this game if not, they do cover this week at home.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 12:03 PM ET #9

    Oakland covers here, McFadden and Fargas TORCH the Chargers D.

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    Oakland covers here, McFadden and Fargas TORCH the Chargers D.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 4:29 AM ET #10

    FARGAS hasn't practiced all week. Tommorow's injury report should make it clearer.  Michael Bush is solid anyways. I dont think FARGAS will play, didn't play last week.
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    FARGAS hasn't practiced all week. Tommorow's injury report should make it clearer.  Michael Bush is solid anyways. I dont think FARGAS will play, didn't play last week.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 10:52 AM ET #11

    Over 45 for sure. In fact, i'm going to bet over in all of the SD games.  Mediocre defense but good offense.  Rivers have been on fire.  Those two teams hate each other, it's going to be a physical so you will see big plays on both sides.
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    Over 45 for sure. In fact, i'm going to bet over in all of the SD games.  Mediocre defense but good offense.  Rivers have been on fire.  Those two teams hate each other, it's going to be a physical so you will see big plays on both sides.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 3:44 PM ET #12

    I have never seen a more true moneyline with respect to the points in a quite a while. Looks like there's a blowout on the horizon for the Chargers. I'm gonna have to drop some coin on this game and take the Chargers to smoke the Raiders and avoid the Monday night hex for the following week. Power up boys and girls!
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    I have never seen a more true moneyline with respect to the points in a quite a while. Looks like there's a blowout on the horizon for the Chargers. I'm gonna have to drop some coin on this game and take the Chargers to smoke the Raiders and avoid the Monday night hex for the following week. Power up boys and girls!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 4:58 PM ET #13

    That is if the spread stays at 7 where it is now!
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    That is if the spread stays at 7 where it is now!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 5:46 PM ET #14

    SD are 9-1 ATS in their last 10 meetings with the Raiders.

    Favorite is 8-1 ATS in their last 9 meetings.

    Trends say Chargers will cover.

    Could this be the game that the raiders go against the trend? It is possible

     

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    SD are 9-1 ATS in their last 10 meetings with the Raiders.

    Favorite is 8-1 ATS in their last 9 meetings.

    Trends say Chargers will cover.

    Could this be the game that the raiders go against the trend? It is possible

     

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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 6:31 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Kquinlan:

    This game should be another easy cover for the Chargers. The Chargers are a playoff team and this is a big division game for them. They can not afford to lose this game, kind of like they couldn't afford to lose to the Jets. The Chargers defense has plenty of new players from last year, but they are still very capable of shutting down Oakland's offense. Their defense continues to improve with each game as they continue to learn how to play together. The offense has been steady all year and although Oakland has a solid defense, the Chargers should be able to control the pace and build a nice lead early. If they are able to do this, which i believe that they will because of the importance of keeping up with the Broncos in the division, Oakland will not be able to climb back in the game. Their offense just isn't built to do this yet. Although the Charger's defense has struggled so far, their secondary is still among the best in the league, and their defensive line isn't too bad either. Also note that against the jets, their defense was very good, but it was their special teams that let them down. They have been at the top of the league in special teams play for the past few seasons, so look for this unit to step up big against Oakland. Throw the home field advantage out the window in this game as the Chargers will dominate from start to finish. Should win again by at least 2 TD's.

    Easy play on Chargers +9 or whatever it goes up to


    No.    In the past few meetings the raiders have had an answer to gates by putting huff over the top of gates, but close enough to the line to help with his strongside run responsibilities.  meaning the raiders matchup well and know how to stop sd from doing what they want to do.  In recent past the raiders have preped well for the chargers and there is no reason to think otherwise. 

    Teams often play harder for a coach that they view is getting a bum wrap from the ownership...we saw it the last two weeks, these guys are playing their heart out for kiffen...and we saw last night with Oregon State how much heart really does make a difference.  On the other side, SD could very well be thinking its in the bag and could be content playing a team with a percieved lack of talent.

    8 is another gift (like last week at buffalo) with the public still remembering the mnf game.  I know its cliche, but this is not the same team from 4 weeks ago.  This line will not go higher than 8.  In fact it will come down by game time.  If you like the raiders take em now.  If you have to bet the chargers, wait till sunday morning and try to get at least -7.  I see a potential good middle opportunity because the line could drop to 6.5.

    This game will be close with the raiders, even possibly leading well into the second half.  SD will win but by one TD and the raiders +7.5 crowd will take it to the bank.  But 2 units says Oak covers at half with +4.5 in their pocket.  SD is this weeks sucker bet cant you all see that???GLTA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kquinlan:

    This game should be another easy cover for the Chargers. The Chargers are a playoff team and this is a big division game for them. They can not afford to lose this game, kind of like they couldn't afford to lose to the Jets. The Chargers defense has plenty of new players from last year, but they are still very capable of shutting down Oakland's offense. Their defense continues to improve with each game as they continue to learn how to play together. The offense has been steady all year and although Oakland has a solid defense, the Chargers should be able to control the pace and build a nice lead early. If they are able to do this, which i believe that they will because of the importance of keeping up with the Broncos in the division, Oakland will not be able to climb back in the game. Their offense just isn't built to do this yet. Although the Charger's defense has struggled so far, their secondary is still among the best in the league, and their defensive line isn't too bad either. Also note that against the jets, their defense was very good, but it was their special teams that let them down. They have been at the top of the league in special teams play for the past few seasons, so look for this unit to step up big against Oakland. Throw the home field advantage out the window in this game as the Chargers will dominate from start to finish. Should win again by at least 2 TD's.

    Easy play on Chargers +9 or whatever it goes up to


    No.    In the past few meetings the raiders have had an answer to gates by putting huff over the top of gates, but close enough to the line to help with his strongside run responsibilities.  meaning the raiders matchup well and know how to stop sd from doing what they want to do.  In recent past the raiders have preped well for the chargers and there is no reason to think otherwise. 

    Teams often play harder for a coach that they view is getting a bum wrap from the ownership...we saw it the last two weeks, these guys are playing their heart out for kiffen...and we saw last night with Oregon State how much heart really does make a difference.  On the other side, SD could very well be thinking its in the bag and could be content playing a team with a percieved lack of talent.

    8 is another gift (like last week at buffalo) with the public still remembering the mnf game.  I know its cliche, but this is not the same team from 4 weeks ago.  This line will not go higher than 8.  In fact it will come down by game time.  If you like the raiders take em now.  If you have to bet the chargers, wait till sunday morning and try to get at least -7.  I see a potential good middle opportunity because the line could drop to 6.5.

    This game will be close with the raiders, even possibly leading well into the second half.  SD will win but by one TD and the raiders +7.5 crowd will take it to the bank.  But 2 units says Oak covers at half with +4.5 in their pocket.  SD is this weeks sucker bet cant you all see that???GLTA
     
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    Raiders cover in a low scoring game. Take the Raiders +9 and the under. 20-14
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    Raiders cover in a low scoring game. Take the Raiders +9 and the under. 20-14
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2008 - 6:13 AM ET #18

    Kiffen is in his second year and he's already a lame-duck head coach.

    LAME Kiffen has now been anointed to be the Raiders latest scapegoat, once this season (like the past several seasons) comes crashing down around them.

    The players see the handwriting on the wall and they likely don't give a shit about their head-coach.

    They'll probably lose big, later today.  Cheers.
     
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    Kiffen is in his second year and he's already a lame-duck head coach.

    LAME Kiffen has now been anointed to be the Raiders latest scapegoat, once this season (like the past several seasons) comes crashing down around them.

    The players see the handwriting on the wall and they likely don't give a shit about their head-coach.

    They'll probably lose big, later today.  Cheers.
     
     
    BlueBallsDeep
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2008 - 9:50 AM ET #19

    NOBODY should take the raiders..
    if anybody watched last weeks game against he bills...
    the raiders had something like 10 first downs and bills had 25
    the bills controlled the game handled the last drive
    and beat them by 1..
    San Diego wil cover because.
    they are hungrier than the bill were last week...
    inner state rivals...
    Oakland Offense just sucks...
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    NOBODY should take the raiders..
    if anybody watched last weeks game against he bills...
    the raiders had something like 10 first downs and bills had 25
    the bills controlled the game handled the last drive
    and beat them by 1..
    San Diego wil cover because.
    they are hungrier than the bill were last week...
    inner state rivals...
    Oakland Offense just sucks...
     
    JackSmack
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2008 - 9:57 AM ET #20

    Anyone that is even THINKING about takign the raiders I mean seriously people, do not come to sports chat websites it is doing you no good.

     

    I mean where in your minds do you get the idea to take the raiders against a 1-2 charger team. Are you insane? I think this is called over-capping, its a sick disease that will send you to GA

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    Anyone that is even THINKING about takign the raiders I mean seriously people, do not come to sports chat websites it is doing you no good.

     

    I mean where in your minds do you get the idea to take the raiders against a 1-2 charger team. Are you insane? I think this is called over-capping, its a sick disease that will send you to GA

     
    Tex-101
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2008 - 11:19 AM ET #21

    I know how bad Oakland's offense sucks.  But there are 2 reasons to take Oakland here today:

    1. Same reason you should take KC vs Denver, see my post there
    2. Go against a SU & ATS winning team from Monday night

    Oak +9

    GL - Tex
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    I know how bad Oakland's offense sucks.  But there are 2 reasons to take Oakland here today:

    1. Same reason you should take KC vs Denver, see my post there
    2. Go against a SU & ATS winning team from Monday night

    Oak +9

    GL - Tex
     
    Tex-101
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2008 - 12:22 PM ET #22

    Hey Clark, even if you lost your next 19 games in a row, you'd still have a better than .500 record this year.  LMAO!  Unfuckingbelievable!

    Good job so far man, keep it up!  I just started this week for the new year.  I don't participate the 1st 2-3 weeks unless I have to.

    Tex
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    Hey Clark, even if you lost your next 19 games in a row, you'd still have a better than .500 record this year.  LMAO!  Unfuckingbelievable!

    Good job so far man, keep it up!  I just started this week for the new year.  I don't participate the 1st 2-3 weeks unless I have to.

    Tex
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2008 - 12:51 PM ET #23

    I'm on SD -8
    Reply
    I'm on SD -8
     
    mixnuts
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2008 - 1:39 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBallsDeep:

    NOBODY should take the raiders..
    if anybody watched last weeks game against he bills...
    the raiders had something like 10 first downs and bills had 25
    the bills controlled the game handled the last drive
    and beat them by 1..
    San Diego wil cover because.
    they are hungrier than the bill were last week...
    inner state rivals...
    Oakland Offense just sucks...
    This is the Exact Reason The Value Is with Taking The Raiders. Plus This is a loppsided play all JP Public is betting SD. Oak
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBallsDeep:

    NOBODY should take the raiders..
    if anybody watched last weeks game against he bills...
    the raiders had something like 10 first downs and bills had 25
    the bills controlled the game handled the last drive
    and beat them by 1..
    San Diego wil cover because.
    they are hungrier than the bill were last week...
    inner state rivals...
    Oakland Offense just sucks...
    This is the Exact Reason The Value Is with Taking The Raiders. Plus This is a loppsided play all JP Public is betting SD. Oak
     
     
    bigdaddyhpd
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2008 - 2:59 PM ET #25

    I like the Chargers momentum coming into this one. Although it is tough to play at the Raider Nation I think that they have bigger problems. I feel for coach Kiffen wondering when his last day of coaching the Raiders will be day after day.

    I like my chances with the Chargers in this one..

    Chargers at the half -4

    Aloha and good luck to all
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    I like the Chargers momentum coming into this one. Although it is tough to play at the Raider Nation I think that they have bigger problems. I feel for coach Kiffen wondering when his last day of coaching the Raiders will be day after day.

    I like my chances with the Chargers in this one..

    Chargers at the half -4

    Aloha and good luck to all
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