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Like the Colts here to put away the Chargers in the first half.. Rivers is garbage I think the athletic colts D will be too much for him hopefully colts can establish a good first half lead to force chargers to pass in the second half and out of LT's hands
 
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Indy pretty much gave the game away earlier this year and only because Vinitieri forgot that he's not Mike Vanderjagt.  Indy is ridiculously good at home, and the Chargers are way worse on the road.  Plus we all know Dungy will outcoach Turner.  It will take another 6 picks for SD to win this game and odds are pretty good against that

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Quote Originally Posted by FlyHi:

Nice avatar, Charlie.
 
Also, doesn't it seem like easy money to take Colts first half, given San Diego's sleepwalking pattern until the 3rd quarter?  Caveat emptor...
 
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No. Not easy money. The Colts will score a shitload of points, but predicting 1H vs 2H is not easy. They were down 16-0 at 1H vs SD earlier this year. And let's not forget last years playoff with the Pats where the Colts were down first and came back.
 
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The last meeting between Colts and Chargers makes my lean on the Colts even greater. Indy was beat up on both sides of the ball hell they couldn't even field a full roster for the game and what happened, they lost the game because Sproles ran a kickoff for a td and a punt for a td against a depleted Indy D, combine that with Vinatieri missing 2 field goals and Manning throwing 6 int (( not because of S D defense but because all his play makers were out and Manning/Indy pass game is built on timing, he was throwing to a spot but the guys he  worked with weren't in position and the had just played N E and they were in San Diego.
 With all those problems Indy still managed to hold the ball for 36 min to Diego's 23 min, LaDainian only rushed for 76 yards on 21 carries and Rivers was 13/24 passing with 0 tds / 2 ints.
 Now were in Indy against a healthy Colts team that had last week off to rest with extra time for Manning to watch film and the Chargers after playing a physical TN team last week has to travel to Indy.
 Although Harrison hasn't played in a long time I can assure you he and Manning have been doing reps and his rust will be very light Manning has Dallas Clark for this game didn't last meeting.Ed Johnson is back on defense for Indy ((huge)) was out in Diego and don't forget BOB SANDERS will be free to play better now that the defense is fully stocked for this meeting.
 I could go on but what I am saying is Indy will perform much better on offense while Diego will have a much harder time against a healthy Colts team in Indy. Look for Rivers to struggle ALOT in this game and Manning to pick Diego apart. Hell Rivers wont even have a tight end as one of there KEY offensive players ((Gates )) will be out and if he manages to get on the field have you ever run with turf toe OUCH. Indy wins going away by 14 or more!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by toady13:



No. Not easy money. The Colts will score a shitload of points, but predicting 1H vs 2H is not easy. They were down 16-0 at 1H vs SD earlier this year. And let's not forget last years playoff with the Pats where the Colts were down first and came back.

Elvis is right you cant compare this game and the last game

 
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colonialjim.....Freeney is out for the year man
 
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Posted: #32
Rivers will be smothered and LT will be a cry baby again!!!
 
Colts by 13 easy money!!!
 
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LOL, Colonel I appreciate the confidence on the Colts, but I am just a Rams fan being the money-person and looking to win whenever and wherever.  All signs point to the Colts winning big, I'm just following my oddball (but mostly profitable over the past several seasons as long as the Rams are not involved) theories that point to the possibility of this being the year of the Super-Chargers.  I just can't get behind the Patriots, but if they win, the only thing I can project is that a cover of the Super Bowl is unlikely.  As my theory goes, for the AFC team to then cover the Super Bowl, I need one of the NFC favorites to win w/o covering this weekend, so the NFC champion would then enter the Super Bowl 1-1 ATS in the playoffs, then not cover the Bowl and finish 1-2.
 
The Chargers are getting less respect than the Jaguars, with out without Gates, that is why I like them - pure contrarian theory, possibly both NE and Indy (and the betting public) are looking past this week to the AFC title rematch.
 
But, if the Chargers get their clocks cleaned, I'm sure I can find someone else to justify jumping on the bandwagon about.  :-)
 
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Posted: #34
LOL pdohwah you can tell i haven't been following the colts that close. all i know is i wouldn't bet against them in this spot.
FLYHI RAMS FAN ---my condolences
 
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I have Indy -6 for the 1st half for $1,000 and I have a teaser, Jax +20 and Indy -1.5 to win $1,000  
 
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FOYHI --- JUST KIDDING AROUND
NEXT SEASON I WILL BE ON THE RAMS EVERY GAME.
THIS TEAM HAS TO HAVE A BREAKOUT SEASON SOON. THERE IS A LOT OF TALENT THERE. THEY JUST HAVE TO GET THEIR  _______  TOGETHER.
 
 
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Tough game to pick...everyone seems to be all over Indy but be careful.  9 points is a lot for this Indy team in the playoffs.  San Diego ALWAYS plays this team close, and did beat them earlier this season.  Just like the New England game, I'm going with a 3-team 10-point teaser in this one.  I think Indy will be able to win the game...but certainly not by a whole bunch.  Gotta remember that Peyton and Marvin haven't been in a game situation for quite a while and with San Diego's tough secondary it might take a bit to get going.
 
San Diego +19.....Indy +1....OVER 36
 
 
Indy 24
San Diego 17
 
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Wish i shared your optimism on the Hams, Lambs, etc. (lol).  At least they took all the suspense out of this season early!  I spent the rest of the season rooting for them to lock a high draft pick.
 
Come on Bolts, do us proud, gotta earn your stripes on the road in January!  GL everyone.
 
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Posted: #39
[Quote: Originally Posted by CMJohnson1]
  Gotta remember that Peyton and Marvin haven't been in a game situation for quite a while
 
 I think Reggie Wayne has stepped up since Marvin was injured so that the void left by Harrison was filled. Although Harrison will have a little rust he and Manning will start clicking much much faster than normal qb receiver duos.  Even in the worst case scenario Wayne could continue to fill Harrison's shoes if need be so the prospect of Marvin playing well is only a bonus in my opinion.
 
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FlyHi, I believe the Bolts would have a better chance against the Pats( who've been in over-drive all year) than the Colts, who are just gettin ready to shift gears.
 
C-Sharp and Col-Jim, I'm w/ you on this one. 
 
Indy's D stepped up big in playoffs last yr.  and I expect they will again.
 
Peyton will not throw 6 picks-- guaranteed....+ missed fg  by Indy that woulda won it for them... and that is exactly what it took for the bolts to squeak by.- at home!
 
Rivers -vs- Manning.  If it was Eli..... but it's not... Maybe Norvell  work his magic..... hmmmm. Wait, he already did... they won a playoff game, against a beaten-up, road weary, opponent with 1/2 a dimension on O.  Norv was outcoached in that game; and if Fisher's boys coulda a made another play or 2-  Bolts backers may be regretting Marty's departure. 
 
My biggest play of the weekend 4. The Colts. Colts at the half. Colts for the game. and if my boy gives some decent odds for colts -14.5, -17.5, or  -20; I might spread my allocation to ratchet up the $$ multiplier.
 
Im leanin on the three Faves and the Jags, this weekend. Somebody change my mind.
 
Good Luck to all (especially those who are on the side my money's on) 
 
    
 
 
Im w/ you c-sharp. Colts blow em out   
  
 
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Posted: #41
This is probably the easiest Cap of the weekend....that kinda makes me nervous.
 
Dungy vs Turner = huge Colts advantage
 
Manning vs Rivers = huge Colts advantage
 
Colts D vs San Diego D = pretty close matchup but id still take the Colts D
 
Colts Offense vs San Diego Offense = huge Colts advantage
 
What it boils down to is this.  Can San Diego move the ball against a FAST Colts Defense?  We know that if Gates does not play the Colts will stack the box with 8 and just play the run while trying to make Rivers beat them deep.  That is a recipe for disaster IMO, Rivers is too shaky to beat a stingy cover 2 consistantly.  Colts will be up fast in this one and wont look back.
 
Colts -9
 
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Posted: #42
After looking at it, I gotta roll with Indy -9.  SD barely beat a depleated Titans team.  Rivers will not be able to pick apart Indy 2ndary.  Bob Sanders has a big day. 
 
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I cant see SD having a chance in this game......Indianapolis is going to put it to this team.....Rivers....oh boy.....SD is not a very good team...they were pounded early in the season and won questionable games.......wow.......barely got by TN....this will Mannings tune up game....all over Indy in this one...home field....revenge factor for loss, rested and healthy squad, combined with underrated D.....verses rivers lollipop passing game.....Shutdown LT....like TN did....this game could get ugly....SD should have easily handled TN and were lucky to win that game.....TN totally outplayed them 1H on their own field and crap offense.......am I not seeing something here other than SD beat them due to Indy muffed FG and worst Manning outing of the Season? 6 int's or something like that?  Kiss that goodbye....unless Peyton was hanging around his brother too much.
 
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Im leanin on the three Faves and the Jags, this weekend. Somebody change my mind.
 
Think about that Jag bet for a minute.....You give Brady & Belichik this mush time to study a team... they will blow them out hands down...... the last games that the Pats didn't cover was just for Vegas to even the books... plus they may have been looking past those teams....believe me they will not be looking past this one....Brady Moss and company are hearing it right now that they may be upset by the Jags....this will just pump them up even more to blow them out....plus everyone will be taking they points and they keep going up???what does that mean??? It will look like the Jags have no bussiness even on the field...Don't get me wrong the Jags are solid...but having this much time to study tapes...the Pats will roll all over the Jags...
 
Pats 45  Jags 24
 
And Indy will smash the bolts also...Indy's D will have a couple of turnovers.. and put up point
 
Indy  31   Bolts 17
 
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That last post was for    LONETREEJJ   hope it will change your mind.if not good luck>>>>
 
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Many thx akamoneyman
 
On the NE/Jax thread I did mention that Jax was a small play; because I am concerned about a relatively inexperienced qb turnin the ball over. You make some valid points; I'll look again before leaping.
 
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Colts are gonna mop the field with the Chargers... not close...
 
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COLTS 5 UNITS
 
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Throw the last matchup out the window, SD was very lucky to walk away with a win.
We all know the leans, and how well Indy should play on the defensive side of the ball to stop LT and get to Rivers.
 
But the concern i have with laying the 9 is that god damned 3 - 4 Defense. Does anyone know anything about Indy's past success against the 3 - 4 Defense? (Besides the last game with SD)
 
Since this is the second match up this season, Peyton and the Offensive Coordinator will obviously be all over that tape to help pick apart what went wrong with all those damn INTs. This is a great advantage for Colts backers.
My worry is that the defense gets to Peyton and there are picks or stalled drives that end up in field goals or punts. SD will probably not surpass what the did in the Titans game, but I fear the Colts only put up about 24 and SD sneaks with a backdoor cover.
 
If Indy gets to 27 or higher, there is a HUGE chance they cover.
 
 
   ---- Info on 3 - 4 Defense please!!!!!  -----  
 
 
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Posted: #50
might as well be -19, not -9.
 
san diego was LUCKY last week.  it took quite a few rivers 20-30 yard heavs downfield to move the ball.     This ain't a game of madden.  it's Indy easy $
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