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    Pittsburgh at Arizona (02/01/2009)

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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 3:35 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by CastlesInTheSky:

    I'm not even a Pitt fan but you cannot compare Steeler defense to Carolina defense. It will be an interesting game to watch but your comparison is way off the mark.  For the record I will have the birds plus points.

    Not much any defense can do about the offense turning the ball over 5 times.  Once any defense spends as much time on the field as the Carolina D did and constantly having its back against the wall...somethings gotta give.  Ball control is the key for an offense that's trying to support its' defense and the Pittsburgh offense understands this. 

    Pittsburgh will run the ball and control the pace of the game.  If they don't they lose this game outright because having Warner/Fitzgerald/Boldin on the field for too long will result in very bad things for Pittsburgh.  Pittsburgh is a complete team and lately Arizona has become a more complete team but I just don't think the AZ D is at the caliber of the Pitt D. 

    I think it comes down to the old adage that "defense wins championships" and Pittsburgh has the best D in the league as they proved this past weekend and they are offensively competent unlike some of the past super-defensive teams we've seen win championships.  The books know this and so should we by now but we all have visions of these highly offensive teams coming out in the championship game and just runnin' and gunnin' but it just never turns out that way.

    Just like the last time Pitt was in it.......Pitt and Under

    Pittsburgh 27-17

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    Quote Originally Posted by CastlesInTheSky:

    I'm not even a Pitt fan but you cannot compare Steeler defense to Carolina defense. It will be an interesting game to watch but your comparison is way off the mark.  For the record I will have the birds plus points.

    Not much any defense can do about the offense turning the ball over 5 times.  Once any defense spends as much time on the field as the Carolina D did and constantly having its back against the wall...somethings gotta give.  Ball control is the key for an offense that's trying to support its' defense and the Pittsburgh offense understands this. 

    Pittsburgh will run the ball and control the pace of the game.  If they don't they lose this game outright because having Warner/Fitzgerald/Boldin on the field for too long will result in very bad things for Pittsburgh.  Pittsburgh is a complete team and lately Arizona has become a more complete team but I just don't think the AZ D is at the caliber of the Pitt D. 

    I think it comes down to the old adage that "defense wins championships" and Pittsburgh has the best D in the league as they proved this past weekend and they are offensively competent unlike some of the past super-defensive teams we've seen win championships.  The books know this and so should we by now but we all have visions of these highly offensive teams coming out in the championship game and just runnin' and gunnin' but it just never turns out that way.

    Just like the last time Pitt was in it.......Pitt and Under

    Pittsburgh 27-17

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 11:02 AM ET #102

    Edge is having nightmares over that hit to Macgahee..... Steelers have stopped him before, on the Colts.... he doesn't want it with the Steel Curtain... they better throw all game, because they will have no running room, and those hb draws aren't going to work against the Steeler linebackers..... it will be interesting to see the zone blitzing scheme against this great offense.... I can't wait....
     
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    Edge is having nightmares over that hit to Macgahee..... Steelers have stopped him before, on the Colts.... he doesn't want it with the Steel Curtain... they better throw all game, because they will have no running room, and those hb draws aren't going to work against the Steeler linebackers..... it will be interesting to see the zone blitzing scheme against this great offense.... I can't wait....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 3:34 PM ET #103

    It boils down to this for me...I don't see the Steeelers offense generating many points. That means the game will be close at best for the Steelers. Still liking AZ esp since they crushed the boyz this year and the boyz handled Pitt. I know it's circular logic but....GL
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    It boils down to this for me...I don't see the Steeelers offense generating many points. That means the game will be close at best for the Steelers. Still liking AZ esp since they crushed the boyz this year and the boyz handled Pitt. I know it's circular logic but....GL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 4:43 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyzwin:

    It boils down to this for me...I don't see the Steeelers offense generating many points. That means the game will be close at best for the Steelers. Still liking AZ esp since they crushed the boyz this year and the boyz handled Pitt. I know it's circular logic but....GL

    You do know that the Cardinals let up 27 points a game this year don't you? Against much weaker competition than the Steelers. And the Steelers just put up 23 against the Ravens who have the second best defense in the league. Pittsburgh also left 10 pts on the board last week when they blew a chance at a field goal before the half and when Limas Sweed dropped a perfectly thrown td pass from Roethlisberger.

    And why do you think the Cowboys handled the Steelers so well but got crushed against the Cardinals? Arizona beat Dallas 30-24 in overtime. Romo was 24-39 for 321 yards and 3 touchdowns and 0 interceptions. Dallas also had more first downs, more rushing yards, had 1 turnover to Arizona's 3, and had an advantage in time of possession. The total yards in the game was 374-276 in favor of Dallas. Arizona also scored on 2 special teams plays (opening kickoff return for td and a blocked punt in overtime for td). That won't happen against Pittsburgh who surprisingly has the #1 punt and kick coverage units.

    Pittsburgh beat Dallas 20-13. In that game Romo was 19-36 for 210 yards and 1 touchdown and 3 interceptions. Dallas did have more first downs, and rushing yards but that was really all they were able to do in that game. Choice played the game of his life. The total yards was 289-238 in favor of Dallas. Pittsburgh won the turnover battle 5-2 and lived inside Dallas territory in the first half. I remember Troy Aikman and Joe Buck saying how lucky Dallas was to still be in the game at halftime.

    And how can you have so much faith in an Arizona defense that at times this year has been shredded. They let up 56 points to the Jets, 48 to the Eagles, and 47 to the Patriots. And if you want to look at how the teams faired against similar opponents the Steelers were 3-2. They beat the Redskins, Cowboys and Patriots and lost to the Eagles and Giants. The Cardinals were 2-4. They beat the Cowboys and Eagles but lost to the Redskins, Giants, Eagles and Patriots.

    The real question is how are the Cards going to move the ball against this Steelers defense? The Steelers haven't had a person rush for over 100 yards on them all year and have had only 1 person throw for over 300 yards on them all year (Phillip Rivers 2 weeks ago threw for 308 yards and that was after Sproles caught a 62 yard pass with 2:00 left in the 4th)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyzwin:

    It boils down to this for me...I don't see the Steeelers offense generating many points. That means the game will be close at best for the Steelers. Still liking AZ esp since they crushed the boyz this year and the boyz handled Pitt. I know it's circular logic but....GL

    You do know that the Cardinals let up 27 points a game this year don't you? Against much weaker competition than the Steelers. And the Steelers just put up 23 against the Ravens who have the second best defense in the league. Pittsburgh also left 10 pts on the board last week when they blew a chance at a field goal before the half and when Limas Sweed dropped a perfectly thrown td pass from Roethlisberger.

    And why do you think the Cowboys handled the Steelers so well but got crushed against the Cardinals? Arizona beat Dallas 30-24 in overtime. Romo was 24-39 for 321 yards and 3 touchdowns and 0 interceptions. Dallas also had more first downs, more rushing yards, had 1 turnover to Arizona's 3, and had an advantage in time of possession. The total yards in the game was 374-276 in favor of Dallas. Arizona also scored on 2 special teams plays (opening kickoff return for td and a blocked punt in overtime for td). That won't happen against Pittsburgh who surprisingly has the #1 punt and kick coverage units.

    Pittsburgh beat Dallas 20-13. In that game Romo was 19-36 for 210 yards and 1 touchdown and 3 interceptions. Dallas did have more first downs, and rushing yards but that was really all they were able to do in that game. Choice played the game of his life. The total yards was 289-238 in favor of Dallas. Pittsburgh won the turnover battle 5-2 and lived inside Dallas territory in the first half. I remember Troy Aikman and Joe Buck saying how lucky Dallas was to still be in the game at halftime.

    And how can you have so much faith in an Arizona defense that at times this year has been shredded. They let up 56 points to the Jets, 48 to the Eagles, and 47 to the Patriots. And if you want to look at how the teams faired against similar opponents the Steelers were 3-2. They beat the Redskins, Cowboys and Patriots and lost to the Eagles and Giants. The Cardinals were 2-4. They beat the Cowboys and Eagles but lost to the Redskins, Giants, Eagles and Patriots.

    The real question is how are the Cards going to move the ball against this Steelers defense? The Steelers haven't had a person rush for over 100 yards on them all year and have had only 1 person throw for over 300 yards on them all year (Phillip Rivers 2 weeks ago threw for 308 yards and that was after Sproles caught a 62 yard pass with 2:00 left in the 4th)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stalker:

    You do know that the Cardinals let up 27 points a game this year don't you? Against much weaker competition than the Steelers. And the Steelers just put up 23 against the Ravens who have the second best defense in the league. Pittsburgh also left 10 pts on the board last week when they blew a chance at a field goal before the half and when Limas Sweed dropped a perfectly thrown td pass from Roethlisberger.

    And why do you think the Cowboys handled the Steelers so well but got crushed against the Cardinals? Arizona beat Dallas 30-24 in overtime. Romo was 24-39 for 321 yards and 3 touchdowns and 0 interceptions. Dallas also had more first downs, more rushing yards, had 1 turnover to Arizona's 3, and had an advantage in time of possession. The total yards in the game was 374-276 in favor of Dallas. Arizona also scored on 2 special teams plays (opening kickoff return for td and a blocked punt in overtime for td). That won't happen against Pittsburgh who surprisingly has the #1 punt and kick coverage units.

    Pittsburgh beat Dallas 20-13. In that game Romo was 19-36 for 210 yards and 1 touchdown and 3 interceptions. Dallas did have more first downs, and rushing yards but that was really all they were able to do in that game. Choice played the game of his life. The total yards was 289-238 in favor of Dallas. Pittsburgh won the turnover battle 5-2 and lived inside Dallas territory in the first half. I remember Troy Aikman and Joe Buck saying how lucky Dallas was to still be in the game at halftime.

    And how can you have so much faith in an Arizona defense that at times this year has been shredded. They let up 56 points to the Jets, 48 to the Eagles, and 47 to the Patriots. And if you want to look at how the teams faired against similar opponents the Steelers were 3-2. They beat the Redskins, Cowboys and Patriots and lost to the Eagles and Giants. The Cardinals were 2-4. They beat the Cowboys and Eagles but lost to the Redskins, Giants, Eagles and Patriots.

    The real question is how are the Cards going to move the ball against this Steelers defense? The Steelers haven't had a person rush for over 100 yards on them all year and have had only 1 person throw for over 300 yards on them all year (Phillip Rivers 2 weeks ago threw for 308 yards and that was after Sproles caught a 62 yard pass with 2:00 left in the 4th)

    just keep in mind that pitts defense handed them there second touchdown 4 the game. thanks to flacco and co. and their first 6 or 9 points came as field goals. so really their offense only scored one touchdown! they didnt light up the score board at all imo. once again it all comes down to who will execute period end of story. please correct me if im wrong. gl to all
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    Quote Originally Posted by stalker:

    You do know that the Cardinals let up 27 points a game this year don't you? Against much weaker competition than the Steelers. And the Steelers just put up 23 against the Ravens who have the second best defense in the league. Pittsburgh also left 10 pts on the board last week when they blew a chance at a field goal before the half and when Limas Sweed dropped a perfectly thrown td pass from Roethlisberger.

    And why do you think the Cowboys handled the Steelers so well but got crushed against the Cardinals? Arizona beat Dallas 30-24 in overtime. Romo was 24-39 for 321 yards and 3 touchdowns and 0 interceptions. Dallas also had more first downs, more rushing yards, had 1 turnover to Arizona's 3, and had an advantage in time of possession. The total yards in the game was 374-276 in favor of Dallas. Arizona also scored on 2 special teams plays (opening kickoff return for td and a blocked punt in overtime for td). That won't happen against Pittsburgh who surprisingly has the #1 punt and kick coverage units.

    Pittsburgh beat Dallas 20-13. In that game Romo was 19-36 for 210 yards and 1 touchdown and 3 interceptions. Dallas did have more first downs, and rushing yards but that was really all they were able to do in that game. Choice played the game of his life. The total yards was 289-238 in favor of Dallas. Pittsburgh won the turnover battle 5-2 and lived inside Dallas territory in the first half. I remember Troy Aikman and Joe Buck saying how lucky Dallas was to still be in the game at halftime.

    And how can you have so much faith in an Arizona defense that at times this year has been shredded. They let up 56 points to the Jets, 48 to the Eagles, and 47 to the Patriots. And if you want to look at how the teams faired against similar opponents the Steelers were 3-2. They beat the Redskins, Cowboys and Patriots and lost to the Eagles and Giants. The Cardinals were 2-4. They beat the Cowboys and Eagles but lost to the Redskins, Giants, Eagles and Patriots.

    The real question is how are the Cards going to move the ball against this Steelers defense? The Steelers haven't had a person rush for over 100 yards on them all year and have had only 1 person throw for over 300 yards on them all year (Phillip Rivers 2 weeks ago threw for 308 yards and that was after Sproles caught a 62 yard pass with 2:00 left in the 4th)

    just keep in mind that pitts defense handed them there second touchdown 4 the game. thanks to flacco and co. and their first 6 or 9 points came as field goals. so really their offense only scored one touchdown! they didnt light up the score board at all imo. once again it all comes down to who will execute period end of story. please correct me if im wrong. gl to all
     
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    Pittsburgh 31 Arizona 20
     
    Philly put up 470+ yards against Arizona.
    Pittsburgh's offense is more reliable than Philly's.
    Arizona had 370 yards against a Philly D that is playing alot worse than Pittsburgh's. 
    I don't usually post predictions, but I have won with Pittsburgh 2 weeks in a row. 
    No way Pittsburgh lets Arizona put up the quick first half points they have leaned on in the playoffs.
    Arizona beat a young Atlanta team and a Carolina team that gave it away 7 times!
    They tried to give the game to Philly after being up 18 at the half.
    Ben is not the turn over machine he has been. 
    Arizona has had the cards fall their way.  That ends with Pittsburgh.  Pittsburgh will run the ball, eat the clock, and playing great defense.  As usual!
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    Pittsburgh 31 Arizona 20
     
    Philly put up 470+ yards against Arizona.
    Pittsburgh's offense is more reliable than Philly's.
    Arizona had 370 yards against a Philly D that is playing alot worse than Pittsburgh's. 
    I don't usually post predictions, but I have won with Pittsburgh 2 weeks in a row. 
    No way Pittsburgh lets Arizona put up the quick first half points they have leaned on in the playoffs.
    Arizona beat a young Atlanta team and a Carolina team that gave it away 7 times!
    They tried to give the game to Philly after being up 18 at the half.
    Ben is not the turn over machine he has been. 
    Arizona has had the cards fall their way.  That ends with Pittsburgh.  Pittsburgh will run the ball, eat the clock, and playing great defense.  As usual!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 8:00 PM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by jgenti:

    just keep in mind that pitts defense handed them there second touchdown 4 the game. thanks to flacco and co. and their first 6 or 9 points came as field goals. so really their offense only scored one touchdown! they didnt light up the score board at all imo. once again it all comes down to who will execute period end of story. please correct me if im wrong. gl to all

    It definitely comes down to who executes. But that's why I like Pittsburgh. Their defense has been executing all year, like when they had a td last game. In this game I think the one thing you can count on is Pittsburgh's defense. You don't know how Arizon'a Defense/Offense or Pittsburgh's offense is going to execute, but I think you can count on that defense. And as I said in one of my earlier posts, the Cardinals have played 7 games against teams ranked in the top10 in total defense. Their record in those games is 2-5 SU and ATS. Washington had the #4 defense Arizona lost 24-17. Dallas had the #8 defense Arizona won 30-24. The Giants had the #5 defense Arizona lost 37-29. Philly had the #3 defense Arizona lost 48-20 and won 32-25. Minnesota had the #6 defense Arizona lost 35-14. New England had the #10 defense Arizona lost 47-7. Pittsburgh has the #1 defense. The Cardinals have not seen one like it this year. And Dick Lebeau is going to have two weeks to get them ready. I'll take those odds.

    I don't think injuries will be a factor in this game. Ward is going to play. Laboy is going to play. They'll do what they need to do or take what they need to take to be ready to play. But one thing that has to concern Cardinals fans is Anquan Boldin and Todd Haley. Boldin had already said earlier in the year that he wanted out of Arizona. Now he has this confrontation with Haley on the sidelines about not being in at the end of the game. He didn't even stay around to celebrate with his teammates after the game. Edge has already said that he's gone at the end of the year and now there's talk of Haley taking over as Head Coach of the Chiefs next year. Maybe all of these things will have no effect on the game at all, but it's never good to have unnecessary distractions. Especially this time of the year and the Giants can second that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgenti:

    just keep in mind that pitts defense handed them there second touchdown 4 the game. thanks to flacco and co. and their first 6 or 9 points came as field goals. so really their offense only scored one touchdown! they didnt light up the score board at all imo. once again it all comes down to who will execute period end of story. please correct me if im wrong. gl to all

    It definitely comes down to who executes. But that's why I like Pittsburgh. Their defense has been executing all year, like when they had a td last game. In this game I think the one thing you can count on is Pittsburgh's defense. You don't know how Arizon'a Defense/Offense or Pittsburgh's offense is going to execute, but I think you can count on that defense. And as I said in one of my earlier posts, the Cardinals have played 7 games against teams ranked in the top10 in total defense. Their record in those games is 2-5 SU and ATS. Washington had the #4 defense Arizona lost 24-17. Dallas had the #8 defense Arizona won 30-24. The Giants had the #5 defense Arizona lost 37-29. Philly had the #3 defense Arizona lost 48-20 and won 32-25. Minnesota had the #6 defense Arizona lost 35-14. New England had the #10 defense Arizona lost 47-7. Pittsburgh has the #1 defense. The Cardinals have not seen one like it this year. And Dick Lebeau is going to have two weeks to get them ready. I'll take those odds.

    I don't think injuries will be a factor in this game. Ward is going to play. Laboy is going to play. They'll do what they need to do or take what they need to take to be ready to play. But one thing that has to concern Cardinals fans is Anquan Boldin and Todd Haley. Boldin had already said earlier in the year that he wanted out of Arizona. Now he has this confrontation with Haley on the sidelines about not being in at the end of the game. He didn't even stay around to celebrate with his teammates after the game. Edge has already said that he's gone at the end of the year and now there's talk of Haley taking over as Head Coach of the Chiefs next year. Maybe all of these things will have no effect on the game at all, but it's never good to have unnecessary distractions. Especially this time of the year and the Giants can second that.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 8:24 PM ET #108

    Do you all reall think that Anquan Boldin's outburst is a distraction?? I mean really.
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    Do you all reall think that Anquan Boldin's outburst is a distraction?? I mean really.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE-KID:

    Pittsburgh 31 Arizona 20
     
    Philly put up 470+ yards against Arizona.
    Pittsburgh's offense is more reliable than Philly's.
    Arizona had 370 yards against a Philly D that is playing alot worse than Pittsburgh's. 
    I don't usually post predictions, but I have won with Pittsburgh 2 weeks in a row. 
    No way Pittsburgh lets Arizona put up the quick first half points they have leaned on in the playoffs.
    Arizona beat a young Atlanta team and a Carolina team that gave it away 7 times!
    They tried to give the game to Philly after being up 18 at the half.
    Ben is not the turn over machine he has been. 
    Arizona has had the cards fall their way.  That ends with Pittsburgh.  Pittsburgh will run the ball, eat the clock, and playing great defense.  As usual!

    with guys like parker and moore pitt is not as much a run team as people think. this is not the offense run with the bus. pitt no longer throws 16 times a game more like 35-36 times a game. add in miller, holmes, ward ,sweed, they will run but not too eat the clock and with zonas defense running for parker could be like passing. a screen pass on zona to parker or moore can go for big yardage. dont underestimate the mentality of tomlin. this is the superbowl they wont let up til late in the game and even then they love to hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE-KID:

    Pittsburgh 31 Arizona 20
     
    Philly put up 470+ yards against Arizona.
    Pittsburgh's offense is more reliable than Philly's.
    Arizona had 370 yards against a Philly D that is playing alot worse than Pittsburgh's. 
    I don't usually post predictions, but I have won with Pittsburgh 2 weeks in a row. 
    No way Pittsburgh lets Arizona put up the quick first half points they have leaned on in the playoffs.
    Arizona beat a young Atlanta team and a Carolina team that gave it away 7 times!
    They tried to give the game to Philly after being up 18 at the half.
    Ben is not the turn over machine he has been. 
    Arizona has had the cards fall their way.  That ends with Pittsburgh.  Pittsburgh will run the ball, eat the clock, and playing great defense.  As usual!

    with guys like parker and moore pitt is not as much a run team as people think. this is not the offense run with the bus. pitt no longer throws 16 times a game more like 35-36 times a game. add in miller, holmes, ward ,sweed, they will run but not too eat the clock and with zonas defense running for parker could be like passing. a screen pass on zona to parker or moore can go for big yardage. dont underestimate the mentality of tomlin. this is the superbowl they wont let up til late in the game and even then they love to hit.

     
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    remember when cards needed to kill some clock in the 3rd, they had a 14 sec drive with a 3 and out. pitt will have the ball alot against a defense that gives up points. pitt finally looks like they got tomlins aggressive offense and defense down, there about to click big time.new coach new system takes time to adjust. adjusted and healthy.  
     
    gotta love the faith in zona defense and people taking the points.pitt might cover this game themselves. pats tore them up with similar offense that total dropped 6 points because of the weather and  pats put up 47.
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    remember when cards needed to kill some clock in the 3rd, they had a 14 sec drive with a 3 and out. pitt will have the ball alot against a defense that gives up points. pitt finally looks like they got tomlins aggressive offense and defense down, there about to click big time.new coach new system takes time to adjust. adjusted and healthy.  
     
    gotta love the faith in zona defense and people taking the points.pitt might cover this game themselves. pats tore them up with similar offense that total dropped 6 points because of the weather and  pats put up 47.
     
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    it kills me but i have the steelers - 6 $2600 to win $2000 bought a point. i really think zona`s best bet would be to try and run the ball. McGahee had 60 yards on 20 carries. not great but not bad. so i think it can be done. but i gota go with pitt on this one. if pitt wins and doesnt cover that would be a nightmare because i hate pitt.
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    it kills me but i have the steelers - 6 $2600 to win $2000 bought a point. i really think zona`s best bet would be to try and run the ball. McGahee had 60 yards on 20 carries. not great but not bad. so i think it can be done. but i gota go with pitt on this one. if pitt wins and doesnt cover that would be a nightmare because i hate pitt.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2009 - 3:24 AM ET #112

    HOPE THE ZONA LINE KEEPS CLIMBING!!!  +7 ALL DAY! 
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    HOPE THE ZONA LINE KEEPS CLIMBING!!!  +7 ALL DAY! 
     
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    The Cards didnt have to win the last few weeks of the season, but in the playoffs they went to a more balanced attack where they have had lots of success sure Pitt might shut down the run game,but Warner is no rookie QB thats gonna throw 3 picks. Hes been here before and is gonna take what hes given.

    Cards +7.5
    Over whatever
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    The Cards didnt have to win the last few weeks of the season, but in the playoffs they went to a more balanced attack where they have had lots of success sure Pitt might shut down the run game,but Warner is no rookie QB thats gonna throw 3 picks. Hes been here before and is gonna take what hes given.

    Cards +7.5
    Over whatever
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2009 - 4:32 PM ET #114

    a couple of trends
     
    Arizona:
    • Whisenhunt: 0-1 ats coming off a bye
    • Whisenhunt 8-1 ats as underdogs or favorites of less that 3
    • the ridiculous record of coaches vs former team
    • cardinals 8-3 ats in domes
     
    Pittsburg
    Tomlin 2-1 ats coming of a bye
  • Steelers are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 playoff games as a favorite.
  • Steelers are 7-0 ATS in their last 7 playoff games. Jesus 
  • Steelers are 7-1 ATS in their last 8 games overall.
  • Ben Roethlisberger is 7-2 ATS in the playoffs
  • 5-1 ats playing winning teams in the second half of season
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    a couple of trends
     
    Arizona:
    • Whisenhunt: 0-1 ats coming off a bye
    • Whisenhunt 8-1 ats as underdogs or favorites of less that 3
    • the ridiculous record of coaches vs former team
    • cardinals 8-3 ats in domes
     
    Pittsburg
    Tomlin 2-1 ats coming of a bye
  • Steelers are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 playoff games as a favorite.
  • Steelers are 7-0 ATS in their last 7 playoff games. Jesus 
  • Steelers are 7-1 ATS in their last 8 games overall.
  • Ben Roethlisberger is 7-2 ATS in the playoffs
  • 5-1 ats playing winning teams in the second half of season
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2009 - 7:54 PM ET #115

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryWrasse:

    a couple of trends
     
    Arizona:
    • Whisenhunt: 0-1 ats coming off a bye
    • Whisenhunt 8-1 ats as underdogs or favorites of less that 3
    • the ridiculous record of coaches vs former team
    • cardinals 8-3 ats in domes
     
    Pittsburg
    Tomlin 2-1 ats coming of a bye
  • Steelers are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 playoff games as a favorite.
  • Steelers are 7-0 ATS in their last 7 playoff games. Jesus 
  • Steelers are 7-1 ATS in their last 8 games overall.
  • Ben Roethlisberger is 7-2 ATS in the playoffs
  • 5-1 ats playing winning teams in the second half of season
  • This games not in a dome it's in Tampa. So that last Arizona trend has no effect on this game. But thanks for the others. Keep the good info coming. GL to all. Especially Steelers backers

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryWrasse:

    a couple of trends
     
    Arizona:
    • Whisenhunt: 0-1 ats coming off a bye
    • Whisenhunt 8-1 ats as underdogs or favorites of less that 3
    • the ridiculous record of coaches vs former team
    • cardinals 8-3 ats in domes
     
    Pittsburg
    Tomlin 2-1 ats coming of a bye
  • Steelers are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 playoff games as a favorite.
  • Steelers are 7-0 ATS in their last 7 playoff games. Jesus 
  • Steelers are 7-1 ATS in their last 8 games overall.
  • Ben Roethlisberger is 7-2 ATS in the playoffs
  • 5-1 ats playing winning teams in the second half of season
  • This games not in a dome it's in Tampa. So that last Arizona trend has no effect on this game. But thanks for the others. Keep the good info coming. GL to all. Especially Steelers backers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2009 - 7:54 PM ET #116

    $200 ON THE CARDINALS TO WIN THE TOSS OF THE COIN
    $200 ON TAILS.....
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    $200 ON THE CARDINALS TO WIN THE TOSS OF THE COIN
    $200 ON TAILS.....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2009 - 12:39 AM ET #117

    HEY DONTDONK.

    PROPS ON THE "ALTERED BEAST LOGO"  I USED TO PLAY THAT GAME ALL THE TIME ON SEGA

    OH YA AND PS GO ARIZONA

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    HEY DONTDONK.

    PROPS ON THE "ALTERED BEAST LOGO"  I USED TO PLAY THAT GAME ALL THE TIME ON SEGA

    OH YA AND PS GO ARIZONA

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2009 - 9:48 AM ET #118

    Picking Pitt over Balt was easy because of all the obstacles Balt had to over come and Pitt hitting it's peak. Now we have two teams hitty their peak. Teasing Pitt down to 0 with the over under at 53.5 sounds pretty good at this point. I can see Pitt winning by 14 or more if they can pressure Warner to eliminate his accurate throws.
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    Picking Pitt over Balt was easy because of all the obstacles Balt had to over come and Pitt hitting it's peak. Now we have two teams hitty their peak. Teasing Pitt down to 0 with the over under at 53.5 sounds pretty good at this point. I can see Pitt winning by 14 or more if they can pressure Warner to eliminate his accurate throws.
     
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    I'm taking the Steelers -7.  Ben Roethlisberger has been throwing some very accurate passes and he plays much better out of the pocket.  Willie Parker is running full speed now. 
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    I'm taking the Steelers -7.  Ben Roethlisberger has been throwing some very accurate passes and he plays much better out of the pocket.  Willie Parker is running full speed now. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2009 - 10:24 AM ET #120

     Good luck to all
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     Good luck to all
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2009 - 11:30 AM ET #121

    AFC reclaims supremacy vs a 2nd tier NFC team.  AFC still rules the NFL.
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    AFC reclaims supremacy vs a 2nd tier NFC team.  AFC still rules the NFL.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron44:

    I personally will take +7 pts in any NFL game and bet the odds are I win.
    CARDS  +7

    last year the dog had the running game to slow down a passing pats team.this year the dog cannot run or kill the clock, they try at times but fail. i remember when sf played denver in the superbowl broncos and elway were getting 11 and people loved the points. final score in that game 55-10 sf.zona has no defense and no run game for the steelers and pitt passes more than they run. this game is easy and people are making it difficult. 3 weeks ago no one thought zona had a chance now they are picking them to win.pitt will not only try to put up points but will. they do not need to kill the clock and even when they run i just dont see zona stopping them. big ben will have 400 yards passing and parker will still get his 100.

    zona and the points were getting hammered all week and the line stayed the same even vegas knows this one is too easy pitt and the over 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron44:

    I personally will take +7 pts in any NFL game and bet the odds are I win.
    CARDS  +7

    last year the dog had the running game to slow down a passing pats team.this year the dog cannot run or kill the clock, they try at times but fail. i remember when sf played denver in the superbowl broncos and elway were getting 11 and people loved the points. final score in that game 55-10 sf.zona has no defense and no run game for the steelers and pitt passes more than they run. this game is easy and people are making it difficult. 3 weeks ago no one thought zona had a chance now they are picking them to win.pitt will not only try to put up points but will. they do not need to kill the clock and even when they run i just dont see zona stopping them. big ben will have 400 yards passing and parker will still get his 100.

    zona and the points were getting hammered all week and the line stayed the same even vegas knows this one is too easy pitt and the over 

     

     
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    the ironic thing is that people are thinking the steelers need to keep warner off the feild by killing the clock and running the ball, the reality is pitt has defense and zona needs to keep pitt off the field because thier defense does not match up well with pitt. tavarius jackson and the vikings tore up on this defense.
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    the ironic thing is that people are thinking the steelers need to keep warner off the feild by killing the clock and running the ball, the reality is pitt has defense and zona needs to keep pitt off the field because thier defense does not match up well with pitt. tavarius jackson and the vikings tore up on this defense.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2009 - 12:43 PM ET #124

    Hines Ward-Banged Up
    Az -playing good on both sides
    Pitt- Maybe the best D to ever take the field
    Az- Very experienced coaching staff
    Big Ben- terrible in his last super bowl
    Warner-super bowl MVP

    This all spells out a close lower scoring game.

    AZ +7 and under 47

    Highlight this pick because it will pay!!

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    Hines Ward-Banged Up
    Az -playing good on both sides
    Pitt- Maybe the best D to ever take the field
    Az- Very experienced coaching staff
    Big Ben- terrible in his last super bowl
    Warner-super bowl MVP

    This all spells out a close lower scoring game.

    AZ +7 and under 47

    Highlight this pick because it will pay!!

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by booyahz123:

    last year the dog had the running game to slow down a passing pats team.this year the dog cannot run or kill the clock, they try at times but fail. i remember when sf played denver in the superbowl broncos and elway were getting 11 and people loved the points. final score in that game 55-10 sf.zona has no defense and no run game for the steelers and pitt passes more than they run. this game is easy and people are making it difficult. 3 weeks ago no one thought zona had a chance now they are picking them to win.pitt will not only try to put up points but will. they do not need to kill the clock and even when they run i just dont see zona stopping them. big ben will have 400 yards passing and parker will still get his 100.

    zona and the points were getting hammered all week and the line stayed the same even vegas knows this one is too easy pitt and the over 

     

    my idea exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by booyahz123:

    last year the dog had the running game to slow down a passing pats team.this year the dog cannot run or kill the clock, they try at times but fail. i remember when sf played denver in the superbowl broncos and elway were getting 11 and people loved the points. final score in that game 55-10 sf.zona has no defense and no run game for the steelers and pitt passes more than they run. this game is easy and people are making it difficult. 3 weeks ago no one thought zona had a chance now they are picking them to win.pitt will not only try to put up points but will. they do not need to kill the clock and even when they run i just dont see zona stopping them. big ben will have 400 yards passing and parker will still get his 100.

    zona and the points were getting hammered all week and the line stayed the same even vegas knows this one is too easy pitt and the over 

     

    my idea exactly

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