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    New York at Washington (12/21/2009)

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    Sandman23
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 6:20 PM ET #76

    For everyone who only has 1 Sportsbook...here is why you should have at least 2:

    I deal with 4 Sportsbooks.  One of my Books is The Greek, been with them for years and like the quick payouts ( usually payouts back in my bank account in less then 24 hours, regardless of size ).  But.....sometimes they try to trick, screw or call it whatever you want to the Player. Example, tell me if this makes sense:

    Tonight's NFL game

    3:00 pm: NYG -1 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +130

    6:00 pm: NYG -2.5 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +120

    Classic example why you should have more then one Book.  Currently Pinnacle + 135

     

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    For everyone who only has 1 Sportsbook...here is why you should have at least 2:

    I deal with 4 Sportsbooks.  One of my Books is The Greek, been with them for years and like the quick payouts ( usually payouts back in my bank account in less then 24 hours, regardless of size ).  But.....sometimes they try to trick, screw or call it whatever you want to the Player. Example, tell me if this makes sense:

    Tonight's NFL game

    3:00 pm: NYG -1 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +130

    6:00 pm: NYG -2.5 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +120

    Classic example why you should have more then one Book.  Currently Pinnacle + 135

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 6:48 PM ET #77

    Giant -1
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    Giant -1
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 6:49 PM ET #78

    Giant -1
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    Giant -1
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:00 PM ET #79

    New York - 1

     

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    New York - 1

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:06 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    For everyone who only has 1 Sportsbook...here is why you should have at least 2:

    I deal with 4 Sportsbooks.  One of my Books is The Greek, been with them for years and like the quick payouts ( usually payouts back in my bank account in less then 24 hours, regardless of size ).  But.....sometimes they try to trick, screw or call it whatever you want to the Player. Example, tell me if this makes sense:

    Tonight's NFL game

    3:00 pm: NYG -1 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +130

    6:00 pm: NYG -2.5 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +120

    Classic example why you should have more then one Book.  Currently Pinnacle + 135

     

    Classic example of why you should have more THAN one Book..

    I've got 7 Books ...  one is a dictionary!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    For everyone who only has 1 Sportsbook...here is why you should have at least 2:

    I deal with 4 Sportsbooks.  One of my Books is The Greek, been with them for years and like the quick payouts ( usually payouts back in my bank account in less then 24 hours, regardless of size ).  But.....sometimes they try to trick, screw or call it whatever you want to the Player. Example, tell me if this makes sense:

    Tonight's NFL game

    3:00 pm: NYG -1 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +130

    6:00 pm: NYG -2.5 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +120

    Classic example why you should have more then one Book.  Currently Pinnacle + 135

     

    Classic example of why you should have more THAN one Book..

    I've got 7 Books ...  one is a dictionary!

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:08 PM ET #81

    Is the 3pm line and the 6 pm line from the same book?

    Sandman

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    Is the 3pm line and the 6 pm line from the same book?

    Sandman

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:12 PM ET #82

    I don't know what to think!  I got killed this week, most I ever lost in one week.  The teams that actually needed a win to clinch or move up in a playoff didn't.
    Originally gonna take Giants and over but now...  who knows!?
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    I don't know what to think!  I got killed this week, most I ever lost in one week.  The teams that actually needed a win to clinch or move up in a playoff didn't.
    Originally gonna take Giants and over but now...  who knows!?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:21 PM ET #83

    G-men have been here before, they get up for this game and get it done. Skins have played better but the big boys take charge tonight. Giants 27 Skins 17
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    G-men have been here before, they get up for this game and get it done. Skins have played better but the big boys take charge tonight. Giants 27 Skins 17
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:24 PM ET #84

    Toronto...........Yes, they are both from The Greek
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    Toronto...........Yes, they are both from The Greek
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:36 PM ET #85

    lets see. line opened at -3, over 60% of public are on the giants, giants are fighting for a playoff spot, washington is playing for squilch , and let the line goes down to -1. common sense says the giants win this game, but the line movement says bet washington.

    i don't normally post on here, but this a perfect line movement for a huge bet. so washington huge tonight.

    btw zona seemed like a great bet last wk too, there was no reverse line movement, but the line didnt budge with over 75% public on zona last wk...who won (49ers)

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    lets see. line opened at -3, over 60% of public are on the giants, giants are fighting for a playoff spot, washington is playing for squilch , and let the line goes down to -1. common sense says the giants win this game, but the line movement says bet washington.

    i don't normally post on here, but this a perfect line movement for a huge bet. so washington huge tonight.

    btw zona seemed like a great bet last wk too, there was no reverse line movement, but the line didnt budge with over 75% public on zona last wk...who won (49ers)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:37 PM ET #86

    I ran across this earlier, for what is worth;

    Giants at Redskins

    12/21/09

    The Cowboys win over the Saints on Saturday Night made things even more desperate for the New York Giants. The Giants needed the Saints and 49ers to win this week and neither happened. So the noose is now tightening. Things don't get any easier for the Giants either as they still have to face the Panthers, a team that has always been a thorn in their sides, and the Vikings to end the year. So, Giants fans, things don't look good.

    But first things first. There's no hope if the Giants don't sweep their final 3 games and that all starts tonight in the Nations Capital as they face the once hapless Redskins. We say "once" hapless because the Skins at one point this season were, well, pathetic. No offense to speak of, and arguably one of the NFL's worst teams.

    To their credit, they didn't roll over and die. No, they didn't start winning, but they played some very competitive ball against some very good teams. They beat the Broncos, then lost by one to the Cowboys and by a field goal to both the Eagles and Saints. In their last three games they have seemingly found an offense that's been absent all season. They managed to score 24, 30 and 34 in their last 3 games and only one of those teams was a dud, the Raiders. That alone, will make this one interesting as the Giants have give up an average of 32 points per game over their last 8 games after having started the season 5-0 and ranking among the best defenses in the league.

    We caution our readers regularly about games like this. It's often tempting to back teams that need to win in order to stay alive, especially against what may appear to be a weaker opponent who's season was lost long ago. But backing these do or die teams has been a losing proposition over the years. The Skins are dangerous here. Jobs are on the line. Pride is on the line.

    The Giants simply don't deserve to make the playoffs. They have played some lousy football over the 2nd half of the season, going 2-6 over their last 8 games and fielding a defense that seemingly can't stop anyone. A defense which also happens to be banged up (Cornerback Corey Webster - out).

    We don't have a strong opinion on this game, but the Giants are no playoff team and are certainly ripe for a loss. Were going to side with the Skins here to put another nail in the Giants Coughlin, uh, we mean coffin, and beat the Giants straight up here tonight. No strong opinion on the total either but we'd lean towards the under as we expect a healthy dose of Brandon Jacobs tonight.

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    I ran across this earlier, for what is worth;

    Giants at Redskins

    12/21/09

    The Cowboys win over the Saints on Saturday Night made things even more desperate for the New York Giants. The Giants needed the Saints and 49ers to win this week and neither happened. So the noose is now tightening. Things don't get any easier for the Giants either as they still have to face the Panthers, a team that has always been a thorn in their sides, and the Vikings to end the year. So, Giants fans, things don't look good.

    But first things first. There's no hope if the Giants don't sweep their final 3 games and that all starts tonight in the Nations Capital as they face the once hapless Redskins. We say "once" hapless because the Skins at one point this season were, well, pathetic. No offense to speak of, and arguably one of the NFL's worst teams.

    To their credit, they didn't roll over and die. No, they didn't start winning, but they played some very competitive ball against some very good teams. They beat the Broncos, then lost by one to the Cowboys and by a field goal to both the Eagles and Saints. In their last three games they have seemingly found an offense that's been absent all season. They managed to score 24, 30 and 34 in their last 3 games and only one of those teams was a dud, the Raiders. That alone, will make this one interesting as the Giants have give up an average of 32 points per game over their last 8 games after having started the season 5-0 and ranking among the best defenses in the league.

    We caution our readers regularly about games like this. It's often tempting to back teams that need to win in order to stay alive, especially against what may appear to be a weaker opponent who's season was lost long ago. But backing these do or die teams has been a losing proposition over the years. The Skins are dangerous here. Jobs are on the line. Pride is on the line.

    The Giants simply don't deserve to make the playoffs. They have played some lousy football over the 2nd half of the season, going 2-6 over their last 8 games and fielding a defense that seemingly can't stop anyone. A defense which also happens to be banged up (Cornerback Corey Webster - out).

    We don't have a strong opinion on this game, but the Giants are no playoff team and are certainly ripe for a loss. Were going to side with the Skins here to put another nail in the Giants Coughlin, uh, we mean coffin, and beat the Giants straight up here tonight. No strong opinion on the total either but we'd lean towards the under as we expect a healthy dose of Brandon Jacobs tonight.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:42 PM ET #87

    Everybody here is betting Washington and the under.    I just can't take the Redskins here with NY having to win.    I cannot stand the Giants but just can't go against them in this spot.   There is too much to play for and Washington won against Oakland who is horrible, Scored 30 on New Orleans who has a horrible defense.   I am not really impressed with Washington but maybe I will be when Shanahan gets there but not now.   

    N.Y.     34     Washington  17   

     

    Good Luck to everyone and hope you make the right decision.

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    Everybody here is betting Washington and the under.    I just can't take the Redskins here with NY having to win.    I cannot stand the Giants but just can't go against them in this spot.   There is too much to play for and Washington won against Oakland who is horrible, Scored 30 on New Orleans who has a horrible defense.   I am not really impressed with Washington but maybe I will be when Shanahan gets there but not now.   

    N.Y.     34     Washington  17   

     

    Good Luck to everyone and hope you make the right decision.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:47 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by mika23g:

    Washington doesn't suck.  They have a qb that is getting more accurate and confident, a nice receiver in Thomas and a good tight end in Davis.  Some backs have stepped up and they play good defense.  

    I'll tell you who does suck though,  the giants defense.  They should score but so will washington

    Washington 
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       great post.    i so second that.......

    i thoughtt,,, LAST  game  they had  a def.  . WRONG....

    redski

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    Quote Originally Posted by mika23g:

    Washington doesn't suck.  They have a qb that is getting more accurate and confident, a nice receiver in Thomas and a good tight end in Davis.  Some backs have stepped up and they play good defense.  

    I'll tell you who does suck though,  the giants defense.  They should score but so will washington

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       great post.    i so second that.......

    i thoughtt,,, LAST  game  they had  a def.  . WRONG....

    redski

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:49 PM ET #89

    Redskins +2.5
    Over 43.5
     
     
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    Redskins +2.5
    Over 43.5
     
     
     
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    2 cents:

    Which Giants defense will show up tonight?  I'm banking on the one where it locks down the run game from the 3rd string RB and forces the Skins into passing more than they want.  Line opened at -3 Giants, contrary to what some posts in here claim.  It opened at Giants -3 and still is at Giants -3.  Giants going 1 way and Redskins the other yet the Giants opened at -3 on the road.  Logic dictates the favorite tonight will come out on top.

    NYG -3

    GL all,

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    2 cents:

    Which Giants defense will show up tonight?  I'm banking on the one where it locks down the run game from the 3rd string RB and forces the Skins into passing more than they want.  Line opened at -3 Giants, contrary to what some posts in here claim.  It opened at Giants -3 and still is at Giants -3.  Giants going 1 way and Redskins the other yet the Giants opened at -3 on the road.  Logic dictates the favorite tonight will come out on top.

    NYG -3

    GL all,

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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:53 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by zOrO-GZA:

    NY Giants in a blowout... OVER.

    You really don't realize that you are the homer by taking Washington here right?

     

    no way a Blow out. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by zOrO-GZA:

    NY Giants in a blowout... OVER.

    You really don't realize that you are the homer by taking Washington here right?

     

    no way a Blow out. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 8:06 PM ET #92

    going giants first half....lines look like it swaying towards....skins..

    skins on sportsbook is +3 -125...doesnt make sense. going giants

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    going giants first half....lines look like it swaying towards....skins..

    skins on sportsbook is +3 -125...doesnt make sense. going giants

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 8:19 PM ET #93

    Campbelll may or may not be fighting for a job.  But Zorn just lost
    his, according to Chris Mortenson--to Shanahan.  Hard to see
    Redskins keep up their mini-surge knowing that Zorn is gone.

    Five of last six have gone under 42 points.   Got to like Giants and Unders.
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    Campbelll may or may not be fighting for a job.  But Zorn just lost
    his, according to Chris Mortenson--to Shanahan.  Hard to see
    Redskins keep up their mini-surge knowing that Zorn is gone.

    Five of last six have gone under 42 points.   Got to like Giants and Unders.
     
    sportsKing84
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 8:29 PM ET #94

    2 picks tonight, one free, one for paying customers. I'll give them out both for free tonight. Redskins +3 and Suns -2.5, check out our site, pickonlywinners.com
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    2 picks tonight, one free, one for paying customers. I'll give them out both for free tonight. Redskins +3 and Suns -2.5, check out our site, pickonlywinners.com
     
    TORONTO
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 8:35 PM ET #95

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    Toronto...........Yes, they are both from The Greek

     

    So your confusion is why when -1 & -2.5

    the ML stayed the same ? 140  ...

    and furthermore that despite -2.5, the ML

    for Washington went DOWN to 120 from 130 ?

    Is this what you mean ?

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    Toronto...........Yes, they are both from The Greek

     

    So your confusion is why when -1 & -2.5

    the ML stayed the same ? 140  ...

    and furthermore that despite -2.5, the ML

    for Washington went DOWN to 120 from 130 ?

    Is this what you mean ?

     
    mikeny
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 9:18 PM ET #96

    Back for second half line..
    Reply
    Back for second half line..
     
    tulanebill
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 9:33 PM ET #97

    I can't believe I let this thread keep me from betting on the Gmen........I looked for advice, and I got a lot of bad.......

     

    Settled on under 43 1/2 and it looks like the Gmen may make more than that....

    Reply

    I can't believe I let this thread keep me from betting on the Gmen........I looked for advice, and I got a lot of bad.......

     

    Settled on under 43 1/2 and it looks like the Gmen may make more than that....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 9:40 PM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    For everyone who only has 1 Sportsbook...here is why you should have at least 2:

    I deal with 4 Sportsbooks.  One of my Books is The Greek, been with them for years and like the quick payouts ( usually payouts back in my bank account in less then 24 hours, regardless of size ).  But.....sometimes they try to trick, screw or call it whatever you want to the Player. Example, tell me if this makes sense:

    Tonight's NFL game

    3:00 pm: NYG -1 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +130

    6:00 pm: NYG -2.5 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +120

    Classic example why you should have more then one Book.  Currently Pinnacle + 135

     

     

    Glad to see that you spread all that money on WASHINGTON 'S LOCK with those three books pro-Z.

    Hope this wasn't your first pick in the Covers contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    For everyone who only has 1 Sportsbook...here is why you should have at least 2:

    I deal with 4 Sportsbooks.  One of my Books is The Greek, been with them for years and like the quick payouts ( usually payouts back in my bank account in less then 24 hours, regardless of size ).  But.....sometimes they try to trick, screw or call it whatever you want to the Player. Example, tell me if this makes sense:

    Tonight's NFL game

    3:00 pm: NYG -1 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +130

    6:00 pm: NYG -2.5 @ -115  ML -140, Washington ML +120

    Classic example why you should have more then one Book.  Currently Pinnacle + 135

     

     

    Glad to see that you spread all that money on WASHINGTON 'S LOCK with those three books pro-Z.

    Hope this wasn't your first pick in the Covers contest.

     
    mikeny
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 9:50 PM ET #99

    Quote Originally Posted by Cao75:

     agree here. Gman first half . If they dont hit, chase them a 2H.

      1st Half , Gman + Over / *** Play large !! GLTA

    This Game is up for grab. Vegas is out tonight .

    Cao Good Job!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cao75:

     agree here. Gman first half . If they dont hit, chase them a 2H.

      1st Half , Gman + Over / *** Play large !! GLTA

    This Game is up for grab. Vegas is out tonight .

    Cao Good Job!!!!
     
     
    mikeny
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 10:03 PM ET #100

    This giants defense is having its way....redskins offensive line is not protecting the QB ..

    Colins is not too bad, going to be interesting second half line.

    Reply

    This giants defense is having its way....redskins offensive line is not protecting the QB ..

    Colins is not too bad, going to be interesting second half line.

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